Fasmodey (EUW)
: I dont mean a Morde VGU, I mean a Maokai VGU. His design isnt boring to me.
Maokai's design isn't bland, though. And because of his updated model (which created more details) they are able to do more with the champ's design. **The same thing would happen with Xerath**. His model is dookie af consisting of simple polygons. To update that model would be to include more shapes that can be adjusted for skins. You can only do so much with polygons wearing plates that doesn't look similar to every other polygons wearing plates.
: How many assists?
> [{quoted}](name=OtakuBurrito,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iiEylehQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-14T14:49:54.323+0000) > > How many assists? For the sake of pattern, let's say 0 lol
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iiEylehQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-08T21:19:36.795+0000) > > I don't think that someone who's dying to ganks has the right to comment on how others react to ganks. They're usually the best one to comment on it as they're a jungler that ganks for all kinds of people. When they see you not reacting properly to a gank (compared to how everyone else they gank for 10x a day react) you should DEFINITELY listen to them. As someone that's played a lot of JG, been there, dealt with your kind plenty. Not every JG champ works the same, and you need to understand how to react to them. Part of a JGs basic knowledge set required to be a JG already involves knowing how your champ and your lane opponent works. 90% of what gets a jungler the rank they land at is knowledge, not twitch reflexes or anything like that. It's a knowledge driven position, extremely so compared to the others. If you're ignoring the ONE player that got where he was almost solely based on game knowledge, you're the problem my friend.
All of that proves you have no idea what you're talking about. Mostly because I never once mentioned a jungler. I said, someone who sucks at something doesn't have the right to comment on how someone else does that same something. "Stop feeding and people will respect your opinion on feeding."
: They're the same rank as you, if there's something seriously wrong where things are going terribly, they're usually right, because their strength (putting them at the same rank as you) is your weakness. Generally, you should listen to them way more often than not unless they're being unconstructive. If you don't, it's a safe bet you're part of the reason your team is losing.
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iiEylehQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-08T21:22:49.707+0000) > > They're the same rank as you, if there's something seriously wrong where things are going terribly, they're usually right, because their strength (putting them at the same rank as you) is your weakness. Generally, you should listen to them way more often than not unless they're being unconstructive. If you don't, it's a safe bet you're part of the reason your team is losing. Rank has little to do with a player's skill, especially when one bad player determines the outcome of the game. It's almost 2020 and people are still reciting the "It's all your fault when you lose" rhetoric that's been proven incorrect time and time again?
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l2RwjllY,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T21:12:45.744+0000) > > So what you're saying is, because people care more about say the balancing of a champ than some random complaining, there must be bots involved? > > Lol I never said that. Again, the ratio of votes to views shows that more people than normal are voting. If you’ve ever had “backend” access to an online forum, you’d know that just doesn’t happen because “people care”. People who vote tend to vote on most threads/topics, and people who don’t vote tend not to vote even if they’re discussing. Furthermore, while I can’t confirm it here and it sounds like moderators can’t either, threads with different ratios will also tend to have a much higher proportion of “inactive” accounts voting - I.e. accounts that only vote on that one thread and don’t comment/vote elsewhere.
That's an extremely "It doesn't make sense but let's go with it" answer, but you do you.
Arakadia (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T21:45:52.154+0000) > > Well, we can't hear thoughts. This ***is*** a game about Summoners and the Summoned, after all. Considering he telepathically communicates with Alune, I think we can hear thoughts.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T00:14:22.662+0000) > > Considering he telepathically communicates with Alune, I think we can hear thoughts. Does he, though? We can hear **her** because she communicates with and sends weapons to him using hyper moon magic. I do agree that we shouldn't be able to hear her as well, but I blame forgotten Summoner nonsense for that lol
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Design and outdated model are same things to you? In so many words, you don't know what you are talking about.
Improving his model would be improving his design, guv. Which would also mean giving the design team more to work with when thinking up skin ideas.
: Hey look, Sett is Simple, can you guys give the design team a break now?
Where did all these downvotes come from lmao last I saw this thread was +20 in the green even with downvotes
Rioter Comments
Arakadia (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-08T16:15:40.133+0000) > > I don't think a mute would have emotes lol it's not like he's Sona who can magically speak. I'm sayin he shouldn't have been mute. Or we should hear his thoughts with Alune.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T16:58:54.882+0000) > > I'm sayin he shouldn't have been mute. Or we should hear his thoughts with Alune. Well, we can't hear thoughts. This ***is*** a game about Summoners and the Summoned, after all.
: Well listen to what he has to say , then judge whether its garbage or actually useful advice :D
> [{quoted}](name=Immortal SOUŁ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iiEylehQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-08T16:15:36.658+0000) > > Well listen to what he has to say , then judge whether its garbage or actually useful advice :D Low farm no kills many deaths low vision score no map awareness What exactly should I be listening to? Do bad players make good coaches?
Dynikus (NA)
: Judging a players skill or game knowledge based on their current kda in one game doesn't really make sense. Listen to any advice and determine if it's good or not on its own merit, be it from someone who's 20/0 or 0/20.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iiEylehQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-08T16:22:33.776+0000) > > Judging a players skill or game knowledge based on their current kda in one game doesn't really make sense. Listen to any advice and determine if it's good or not on its own merit, be it from someone who's 20/0 or 0/20. I don't think that someone who's dying to ganks has the right to comment on how others react to ganks.
Culinary (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=onczl2oM,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T21:49:18.151+0000) > > Xerath is literally a bundle of energy plus a few accessories. How is that NOT bland? It's like trying to argue that Zac isn't a bland design. Where else do you see a figure made of pure energy with broken pieces of a sarcophagus and chains forming a shape around him in this game? I think the design philosophy and his back story is great, but he needs an update. Seriously don't understand how someone could think he's bland/boring but think MF/Ezreal/Ahri aren't.
Because you didn't read the comment I made literally right above, Unique /= Imaginative Nobody has yet to contradict the fact that Xerath's design is boring lol There can be so much more to it.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: He looks cool. His game model is just outdated. A transcended mage of immense power trapped in a broken sarcophagus doesnt feel boring to me. We have Gragas and Sylas smh.
In so many words you're literally agreeing that he needs an update to his design lol
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l2RwjllY,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T20:11:31.080+0000) > > I have yet to see any post that has more votes than views lol I said nothing about having more votes than views. I said that the ratio on one thread will be 20x the ratio of another thread. As an example if the normal vote to view ratio is 1 vote per 500 views, a vote manipulated thread would show over 20 votes per 500 views - i.e. more like 1 vote for 25 views.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l2RwjllY,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T20:18:34.597+0000) > > I said nothing about having more votes than views. > > I said that the ratio on one thread will be 20x the ratio of another thread. As an example if the normal vote to view ratio is 1 vote per 500 views, a vote manipulated thread would show over 20 votes per 500 views - i.e. more like 1 vote for 25 views. So what you're saying is, because people care more about say the balancing of a champ than some random complaining, there must be bots involved? Lol
: > [{quoted}](name=notkai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-07T06:27:49.159+0000) > > Fair, fair. I know at least in the Odyssey skin, when Kayn first moves, Rhaast asks if other summoners can hear him. Kayn says no, and Rhaast says, "So you look insane, delightful!" but odyssey rhaast is a different entity than og one, he is not an darkin, even if his race is not exactly specified in odyssey lore he is linked more with aliens things.
> [{quoted}](name=Garen is adopted,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-07T13:51:37.150+0000) > > but odyssey rhaast is a different entity than og one, he is not an darkin, even if his race is not exactly specified in odyssey lore he is linked more with aliens things. I want to believe that Odyssey Rhaast is one of them Dark Starlings.
: Looking Good Aphelios. Heehee
> [{quoted}](name=dªydream,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-07T02:11:04.957+0000) > > Looking Good Aphelios. > Heehee ALL THE PERSONA REFERENCES.
Arakadia (NA)
: They should have given him a VO too. What a way to gut him of personality.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-06T20:19:01.031+0000) > > They should have given him a VO too. What a way to gut him of personality. I don't think a mute would have emotes lol it's not like he's Sona who can magically speak.
notkai (NA)
: Ha, I like these ideas. I think that if Aphelios ever gets a whimsical skin, we'll definitely see more joking interactions between Aphelios and Alune- almost like the ones between Kayn and Rhaast, even though Rhaast can *technically* only be heard by Kayn.
> [{quoted}](name=notkai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jJRy6wvr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-06T17:47:18.658+0000) > > Ha, I like these ideas. I think that if Aphelios ever gets a whimsical skin, we'll definitely see more joking interactions between Aphelios and Alune- almost like the ones between Kayn and Rhaast, even though Rhaast can *technically* only be heard by Kayn. And that's what I was expecting, since Aphelios and Alune almost have that exact kind of relationship.
Rioter Comments
: How can you possibly expect your playerbase to not be toxic in this game?
I didn't read anything but I'll just say They don't. It's why we're giving warnings and incrementally increasing punishments, an the opportunity for repeat offenses before those warnings are even given. Riot doesn't expect the player base to not be toxic; They expect the player base to not be complete assholes.
: Has anyone ever been unpermabanned before?
Rioter Comments
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Because human designs are so creative and interesting. At least Xerath is unique. We have at least 13 MFs in LOL.
Unique /= Imaginative You're right, a lightning stick figure is unique. It's also hella uninspired. Xerath's design is so damn boring that I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a rework yet.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l2RwjllY,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-02T13:23:00.295+0000) > > Man, it's almost like there are at LEAST thousands of people using boards at a time. Yet a hundred or so votes in either direction is strange to you. There aren’t though. Go through threads and watch the vote/view ratios. Then every so often, a thread will get 20x the number of votes per view as other threads. You can’t honestly be so dense to think that this one random thread has convinced people to vote where they don’t vote on any other thread?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l2RwjllY,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-12-02T13:30:00.189+0000) > > There aren’t though. Go through threads and watch the vote/view ratios. Then every so often, a thread will get 20x the number of votes per view as other threads. > > You can’t honestly be so dense to think that this one random thread has convinced people to vote where they don’t vote on any other thread? I have yet to see any post that has more votes than views lol
: Vote bots on the boards are getting seriously out of control
Man, it's almost like there are at LEAST thousands of people using boards at a time. Yet a hundred or so votes in either direction is strange to you.
Sukishoo (NA)
: >The more wins you have vs losses is what improves MMR
I looked into it, and apparently when you increase your MMR you're supposed to gain more LP and lose less, but I don't know whether or not I've ever experienced that. With climbing I've always had to get many wins in a row just to gain enough to overcome the higher losses however few they are. It sucks.
: Why do we even have champion classes?
Something I brought up before that _some_ boards elitists kinda just dismissed.
: As a 600k Soraka main the very existence of Senna is just a slap in the face
Then there's the Senna/Soraka bot lane comp which really has nothing to complain about {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Sukishoo (NA)
: It really doesn't. You could have a 15 minute game and still get or lose the same. Timing has no change on that. MMR is what has control over the game. The more wins you have vs losses is what improves MMR and thus improves your gains in most cases.
Is that so? What affects MMR? Wins and losses?
86400 (NA)
: I guess it's supposed to be more difficult to climb than to fall. Gotta earn it.
That's actually stupid considering this is a game where you have to rely on 4 other players.
XPnut (NA)
: Champion pricing - Why?
Because champion price changes with champion release. It's not play time which determines price, it's age. And as every new champ releases, every champion's price may adjust as well.
Unker139 (NA)
: The length of the game has no bearing on the LP gains or losses.
Last I heard, it does. There's a whole layout on how LP works.
Culinary (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=onczl2oM,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-11-30T00:15:52.994+0000) > > What skin can Xerath receive that isn't just a chroma or a legendary? Most of his skins are kinda bland because of how bland his design is. Explain how he's bland? Miss Fortune/Ezreal/Ahri are bland other than the fact they're physically attractive. Tell me how Xerath's design is bland. Go more in depth.
Xerath is literally a bundle of energy plus a few accessories. How is that NOT bland? It's like trying to argue that Zac isn't a bland design.
Rioter Comments
: If by innocent you mean not breaking rules, duh. If you mean that it isn't a nice thing to say, you're blowing offense bubbles.
I mean "isn't inherently offensive".
: Where do black people like Lucian, Ekko, Pyke and Senna originate from on Runeterra?
The same reason why there's no fantasy iran, or america, or australia in this game. Karma is from Ionia. Senna could be from a number of locations, from the coast of Ionia to one of the islands off Demacia. Given that she has magical capabilities, she's most likely from Ionia. Illaoi and Pyke are from Bilgewater. We actually do know where Lucian and his father are from, but it's hard to place. The Sentinels of Light are originally from The Shadow Isles, emigrated once all the craziness began, and are now based in Demacia. It's safe to say that their new homeland is either on the Demacian continent or off the coast on one of the islands. Wherever we can place the Sentinels's homeland we can place that as Lucian's father's homeland, because where he was raised is also where the gravesite of the Sentinels is. That said, it's even safer to say that Lucian is a native-born Demacian, because he and his father have different homelands as given through the language in his bio. All that said, simply saying "Where do black people come from" in a fictional world where such ideas as human racism doesn't exist is an impossibly unanswerable question, because there doesn't exist that notion of humanoid segregation due to biological development, merely nationalism. If I had to give an educated guess though of where ancestral black originated, I'd assume somewhere on the Shuriman continent since it's the sunniest locale. Hell, maybe even between Shurima and Ixtal, though Ixtal is a latin area so I'd be more inclined to say Shurima itself, or at least towards Mount Targon. Edit: Suffice to say, wherever ancestral blacks originated from on Runeterra, it doesn't exist anymore.
IØIØI (NA)
: So apparently calling people "boomer" is toxic?
Using a term as an insult is toxic, yes.
IØIØI (NA)
: I guess "snowflake" is a trigger word now.
If your dialogue isn't constructive or otherwise innocent, it's free for punishment tbh, and "ok boomer" and "snowflake" aren't typically constructive phrases.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Rw1knV9P,comment-id=003b,timestamp=2019-11-29T23:57:45.006+0000) > > If a name isn't globally unique, _What determines who gets to keep the unique name?_ Last man standing. Basically, if someone else has your same username, the people that change it don't get to keep it, and the last person who doesn't change gets to keep it. If both people refuse to change it, then both don't get it… and what's worse, neither of them get to play the game as a consequence. Totally feels like a "screw you" to a lot of players. Granted, the username isn't very consequential, but if that were the case, they should have just made your login use your email instead of this whole messy system they implemented.
The thing about that is you can have multiple usernames under a single email.
Cõmega (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EdEPmEmQ,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-11-30T02:20:18.047+0000) > > Maybe you're new to League of Legends but both of those are LITERALLY what you'd get chat restricted for. Good job, mods. I'm not new to league of legends at all. I haven't typed a single word in league on this account. 0 Letters typed in game 0 Letters typed pre-game 0 Letters typed post-game 0 Letters typed to friends 0 Friends added If i want to talk to a friend i use discord, no point risking my account just so i can send a message to someone a little quicker
My point was that those are something that the official support team would ban you for, so of course the mods should remove it.
: Senna NEEDS to be given a HARSH choice. DAMAGE or UTILITY.
Just responding to the title, that's literally not a possible decision to make because "damage" and "utility" aren't stats, they're effects. Every champion with damage can have utility, and every champ with utility can do damage. There's no either/or. Maybe if champions could _decide_ on their abilities, sure. But this is a MOBA not an MMO.
Cõmega (NA)
: Mods? Are you ok?
Maybe you're new to League of Legends but both of those are LITERALLY what you'd get chat restricted for. Good job, mods.
: Why wouldn't it? How can you say Sona isn't a prominent figure when she's a world-famous musician? Lux is her "biggest fan" and would clearly be very excited to meet her. Jhin is incredibly jealous of her despite him being based in Ionia and her in Demacia. Hell, some Demacians are even suspicious her music is magical. That last part would be the thing most likely to keep her from doing that, imo, but Sona is clearly a celebrity. People know who she is.
Correction that I thought I included: "Sona's not really a prominent *Demacian* figure." She's not royalty, she's not part of the military, she's an orphan picked up by a rich Demacian lady (who may or may not be a noble). I would never have expected them to change her with the Demacia update. It's more likely that she should've been updated with Ionia, but that was a while ago. While I do believe that they _could've_ done something for her with Demacia, it's not something that I'd consider a requirement. Hence why I said that I think they don't know what to do with her. What is her significance outside of her career? What is her value to the Runterra world? What is her **_Legend_**? Until Riot's story team figures that out, she'll always be an extra character.
Culinary (NA)
: Daily reminder that Xerath has not gotten a skin since April 2015.
What skin can Xerath receive that isn't just a chroma or a legendary? Most of his skins are kinda bland because of how bland his design is.
: Username update client prompt on pause
If a name isn't globally unique, _What determines who gets to keep the unique name?_
: Sona has *very tiny* tidbits of character that just... aren't expanded upon in the slightest because Riot just seemingly refuses to give her any sort of new lore. We know that she's a world-famous musician, otherwise Jhin wouldn't hate her as he dies, and Ezreal's story I believe mentions he's been to a recital or a few. She also was in Ionia, helping Ryze ostensibly seek one of the World Runes. But we otherwise don't know the circumstsnces of their meeting beyond that, or what Sona's motives to help are. I'll just give an example of something they *could* have done: during the Demacia update, where, let's be real, they *should* have updated her, but didn't, they could have, say, depicted Sona as a figure for the mages in Demacia, "speaking" out for them to be treated as people, denouncing the way Demacia treats them... while also standing against Sylas and his brutal, fearmongering methods. It's just an idea came up with on the spot, but it's better than the literally nothing they've given her for years.
I don't think that would fly, tbh. Sona's not really a prominent figure. The reason she was considered a legend was because of some magical super harp she was born with or something. I think they just don't know what to do with her.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lj8MPfz3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T04:26:48.065+0000) > > I've tried the level 2 E, and it literally turned her gameplay from "Poke with Q for a bit" to "If I get level 2 before them they literally lose lane at this point onwards". I'm hoping that's just an early PBE thing because that's scary. I mean, that's more of a case of people not being used to Diana having any real level 2 and not respecting any kind of all-in she might be able to go for level 2 vs. level 1. Diana's E being 2x 40 damage, with her having her passive for damage as well, is pretty solid so I'm not surprised that after the changes her level 2 would be powerful but it's just like... what if your opponent just... doesn't let you all-in them? They do know when you're going to get level 2 after all.
> [{quoted}](name=WTBeGirl100EUhr,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lj8MPfz3,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T07:32:50.933+0000) > > I mean, that's more of a case of people not being used to Diana having any real level 2 and not respecting any kind of all-in she might be able to go for level 2 vs. level 1. Diana's E being 2x 40 damage, with her having her passive for damage as well, is pretty solid so I'm not surprised that after the changes her level 2 would be powerful but it's just like... what if your opponent just... doesn't let you all-in them? They do know when you're going to get level 2 after all. That's what I'm thinking. It depends on who they're playing with though, as well as whether or not they expect Diana to be a threat at all (which they should tbh with a level 2 ult). As well, people probably don't expect her dash range to be as far as it is. Many times in PBE I've seen the "WHY DOES SHE DASH SO FAR" lol reminds me of the old Akali days.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p7EBKRrn,comment-id=000600000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T00:11:02.635+0000) > > If you can't beat them in a fight even after denying them CS, are you actually getting ahead? > > And yes, many times have I been shoved to my tower, denied waves and the enemy team STILL can't fight me. That's...the entire point of this thread, in case you didn't notice. So you are actually trying to argue that A kill. 2 denied waves of cs. And 320 turret plates gold isn’t getting ahead?
Yes, because I've literally experienced that being killed, denied two waves, and turret plates gold didn't get them ahead. That's, again, _**LITERALLY**_ the entire point of this thread.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lj8MPfz3,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T00:09:20.879+0000) > > See, I kinda feel the same about that. The thing about being CD gated is that at some point CD won't even be a factor. Assuming that her E else have around the same damage as her previous ult and else did, her single-target damage right now is extremely high. Again, that's just assuming though. I doubt that even Riot would be foolish enough to give her a whole new damaging ability while still keeping her old damage numbers. Given that you aren't going to want to max E first (or probably second) rank 1 E does 40 damage right now.
> [{quoted}](name=WTBeGirl100EUhr,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lj8MPfz3,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T00:40:13.431+0000) > > Given that you aren't going to want to max E first (or probably second) rank 1 E does 40 damage right now. I've tried the level 2 E, and it literally turned her gameplay from "Poke with Q for a bit" to "If I get level 2 before them they literally lose lane at this point onwards". I'm hoping that's just an early PBE thing because that's scary.
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