Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
AzuBK (NA)
: Thanks for the feedback, this is helpful stuff. Agreed that the ult cooldown is too long on PBE, planning adjustments.
> [{quoted}](name=AzuBK,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4HZaE0bk,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-03-09T21:56:11.872+0000) > > Thanks for the feedback, this is helpful stuff. Agreed that the ult cooldown is too long on PBE, planning adjustments. What about bringing back the W snapback to 4 seconds again? Or meet us LeBlanc mains in the middle at 3.5 seconds?? It really messes up juking potential and those of us who've played LeBlanc her release "overestimate" how much longer we have until we can't snap back.
: Can I ask who you're comparing her to when you're saying 'The output of LeBlanc's ultimate isn't drastically different from other mages ults in lane'? Most mages have ults that either deal way more damage(e.g Ziggs or Veigar) or have a major effect attached to them(e.g. Azir or Malzahar)
> [{quoted}](name=EnvoySoldier,realm=EUNE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=002e00000005,timestamp=2018-03-06T23:07:00.761+0000) > > Can I ask who you're comparing her to when you're saying 'The output of LeBlanc's ultimate isn't drastically different from other mages ults in lane'? > > Most mages have ults that either deal way more damage(e.g Ziggs or Veigar) or have a major effect attached to them(e.g. Azir or Malzahar) -And other mages have a way to waveclear that doesn't require them using there only 70 second ultimate...
AzuBK (NA)
: This is one of the more experimental changes noted in the comment above the full changelist. The output of LeBlanc's ultimate isn't drastically different from other mages' ults in lane, and the necessity for a low cooldown at that stage isn't clear. So we're trying out aggressive cooldown scaling as a first step here, and we'll be looking at how games play out and the feedback we get and tuning as makes sense.
> [{quoted}](name=AzuBK,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=002e0000,timestamp=2018-03-06T22:28:53.217+0000) > > This is one of the more experimental changes noted in the comment above the full changelist. The output of LeBlanc's ultimate isn't drastically different from other mages' ults in lane, and the necessity for a low cooldown at that stage isn't clear. So we're trying out aggressive cooldown scaling as a first step here, and we'll be looking at how games play out and the feedback we get and tuning as makes sense. The reason why this has so many downvotes is because us LeBlanc mains were told back in the day that the gutting nerf for LeBlanc was "extreme" and not likely to make it to live and it did. Thus it killed her and made her only have one viable build path that you could not stray from. We don't want that to happen again, R needs to maybe have an early game higher cooldown but she needs to be able to waveclear effectively if she doesn't have her new passive anymore.
: Hey guys. I just checked in to, like, give an opinion... I know why all the changes you make are made, I understand all of it. But like... no. Yeah, a lot will be pleased cuz new Leblanc was VERY different, and it wasn't their champ anymore. But it's now other summoners' champ... I tried her pre-rework, her gameplay felt dull, and as you guys at Riot said yourselves, there was two possibilities : one, you're far behind in the early game, and then useless in mid-late. Two, you got a lil advantage and snowball the shit out of her, get to burst anyone else 100-0 with no counterplay possible. You wanted her gameplay to suit her fantasy : you did it. Being able to use the ult as you wish made her more versatile, AND the ability to use your clone not just "if you're Lucky when you're near-death" but as a tool was an amazing change. I love using it, even if the fact that you gotta press two buttons instead of one is longer, it IS Worth it. Yup, it's very different from other midlane champs, and her gameplay recquires fast uses of her spells so 2 buttons for an ult sounds stupid, but for real. It's not that hard. A month and you're used to it. The waveclear from old WR felt... unsatisfying. The SFX of new one is far better, on one hand (I could compare it to activating Quinn's passive), and the fact that you could apply your passive to a whole wave, on another ? Even better, if you suceeded to find the right timing and poke one's champ at the same time. You DID a great job on giving her counterplay. That didn't prevent players to not being able to burst as assassins are supposed to. Yes, it takes longer, and it can be frustrating to get killed while waiting for your passive to proc and RQ someone. But it's qrth it when you do. Wasn't that the point ? High risk, high reward. Won't say anything on the agressive CD change on ult, I suppose it's just to test how it feels. But like. The old passive. Yawns. The old Q mark. Yawn. Same reason you changed Katarina's old Q mark, isn't it ? Dealing damage by dashing ? Come on. Does LeBlanc's character look like Malphite to you. I'll stick to that. Yes, she's different, her burst is slower than it should be (I could tell you it ain't always the case, but what do I know). I do use the new RR ult not only to "block skillshots". I could give you some things I recorded in my Highlights section on my profile to show you. It CAN be used to trick one's, and I'm not talking "oooh she flashed cuz my clone showed up bot". I mean, some real "deceiving" sh*t. I love new Leblanc. I feel like new Leblanc players don't dare to talk because there's so many old Leblanc players. But I love her. You gave me a champ to love. Please don't take her back. I'm even willing to show up at your office to talk about her if that could mean she'd be saved è_é Please take all that in consideration. Sorry about the big texting. I still hug you. But I WILL take my hug back if you revert her.
> [{quoted}](name=Pinpin Garou,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=005e,timestamp=2018-03-07T00:58:22.845+0000) > > Hey guys. > > I just checked in to, like, give an opinion... > > I know why all the changes you make are made, I understand all of it. But like... no. Yeah, a lot will be pleased cuz new Leblanc was VERY different, and it wasn't their champ anymore. > > But it's now other summoners' champ... I tried her pre-rework, her gameplay felt dull, and as you guys at Riot said yourselves, there was two possibilities : one, you're far behind in the early game, and then useless in mid-late. Two, you got a lil advantage and snowball the shit out of her, get to burst anyone else 100-0 with no counterplay possible. > > You wanted her gameplay to suit her fantasy : you did it. Being able to use the ult as you wish made her more versatile, AND the ability to use your clone not just "if you're Lucky when you're near-death" but as a tool was an amazing change. I love using it, even if the fact that you gotta press two buttons instead of one is longer, it IS Worth it. Yup, it's very different from other midlane champs, and her gameplay recquires fast uses of her spells so 2 buttons for an ult sounds stupid, but for real. It's not that hard. A month and you're used to it. > > The waveclear from old WR felt... unsatisfying. The SFX of new one is far better, on one hand, and the fact that you could apply your passive to a whole wave, on another ? Even better, if you suceeded to find the right timing and poke one's champ at the same time. > > You DID a great job on giving her counterplay. That didn't prevent players to not being able to burst as assassins are supposed to. Yes, it takes longer, and it can be frustrating to get killed while waiting for your passive to proc and RQ someone. But it's qrth it when you do. Wasn't that the point ? High risk, high reward. > > Won't say anything on the agressive CD change on ult, I suppose it's just to test how it feels. > > But like. The old passive. Yawns. The old Q mark. Yawn. Same reason you changed Katarina's old Q mark, isn't it ? > > Dealing damage by dashing ? Come on. Does LeBlanc's character look like Malphite to you. > > I'll stick to that. Yes, she's different, her burst is slower than it should be (I could tell you it ain't always the case, but what do I know). I do use the new RR ult not only to "block skillshots". I could give you some things I recorded in my Highlights section on my profile to show you. It CAN be used to trick one's, and I'm not talking "oooh she flashed cuz my clone showed up bot". I mean, some real "deceiving" sh*t. > > I love new Leblanc. I feel like new Leblanc players don't dare to talk because there's so many old Leblanc players. But I love her. > > You gave me a champ to love. > > Please don't take her back. > > I'm even willing to show up at your office to talk about her if that could mean she'd be saved è_é > > Please take all that in consideration. Sorry about the big texting. > > I still hug you. But I WILL take my hug back if you revert her. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Sorry, reworked LeBlanc is not coming back the community has spoken. Now, Riot - please for the love of god change that ULT cooldown to something like 65/50/35, that seems like it would allow more counter play early and still keep the cooldown relatively low late game so she doesn't fall off. W + RW is her only waveclear tool now, other mages do NOT need to use there ult to wave clear, she needs to have a low cooldown on R or she won't be viable.
AzuBK (NA)
: Yep. I just edited in the full (current) changelist. We decided early on that W doing damage was an important pillar of this work.
> [{quoted}](name=AzuBK,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-03-06T21:45:36.753+0000) > > Yep. I just edited in the full (current) changelist. We decided early on that W doing damage was an important pillar of this work. Are the old Particles and Sound FX coming back? If not, is Mirror Image going to get a new sound FX?
AzuBK (NA)
: LeBlanc Mini-Revert Context
I have a very important question about Pre-Rework LeBlanc. Are the old Particles and sound effects coming back?? <3
AzuBK (NA)
: LeBlanc Mini-Revert Context
W damage please come back! If she isn't gonna have waveclear anymore she needs her W RW combo to kills waves like she used to! <3
AzuBK (NA)
: LeBlanc Mini-Revert Context
I LOVE YOU JESUS. {{sticker:leblanc-funny}}
: Maybe with "chronically bad Internet", one should not play LoL?
> [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qkbUXAw5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-20T17:55:50.143+0000) > > Maybe with &quot;chronically bad Internet&quot;, one should not play LoL? I have bad internet because of the area that I live, it is my only option. I am not going to stop playing a game I like just because my connection drops from time to time or because my ping is constantly at 87ms at its lowest. Just because someone has bad internet doesn't mean they should be stripped the right to enjoy there down time just like everyone else.
: Wait what?
> [{quoted}](name=JustMonika13,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=EqJROa2a,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-20T05:50:03.496+0000) > > Wait what? http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/02/red-post-collection-quick-gameplay_14.html
Dr Mercy (NA)
: There's a revert coming?
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=EqJROa2a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-20T05:46:28.959+0000) > > There&#x27;s a revert coming? http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/02/red-post-collection-quick-gameplay_14.html
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
FNC Ilija (EUNE)
: PROJECT SKINS 2018
{{champion:7}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:51}}
: We're 1 month into Season 8. How are y'all doing so far?
: You also did it on your own volition, and it took you less than a day you said. That's all grand and jolly, but for it to be done with LeBlanc, they'd have to break someone away from a current project and put them on her, which would drag work assets away from a potentially more important project to scrap together a champion who in all honesty needs a complete overhaul. It would end up being a waste of time because she's going to need a VGU at some point, and it could be as under the radar and simple as Ryze's where they decide to give her a minor VGU with a full kit redesign because of all the issues her kit is going through (it's a mess, it has been a mess, just like Ryze was). It wouldn't make any sense to have a paid employee tinkering with a champion in such a bad state as LeBlanc. Her kit is a flip flop mess, her model is outdated as hell, she has no recall or homeguard, which are basic animations these days, and her VO is an outdated atrocity. That's not even factoring in that string bikini monstrosity she's wearing while she's supposed to be this secret behind the scenes manipulator, not a Victoria's Secret scene stealer. LeBlanc is a god awful mess. She needs to have extensive work done to make her on par with current champions and her lore, not work that equates to a bandaid on a bone deep gash.
While I agree with everything you said, Riot has explicitly stated they don't see her outdated enough for a complete Visual Gameplay Overhaul. Yes, this would be a 'bandaid' fix, but it is better then what we have right now. It isn't going to break Riot's bank to spend some man power for a day or two tweaking some cape animations and doing some smoothing to her model.
: Your proposed changes are way too much work to be "low cost/low time." Animations and rigging isn't Microsoft Paint - You can't just willy nilly copy/paste elements into one model and fix all of it's problems. If you add or replace new elements to a model, you'd have to reattach it to the existing model, which takes more time than you think. You also have to make sure the new elements you're now adding have proper placement on the texture map, and that will now require you to go in and redesign elements of the texture map so that the parts you added to the model have the proper texture displaying. Same especially goes for modifying her belts. Those 3D shapes will have to be removed and rebuilt from scratch, and then applied to the existing rigging and texture map to make sure they move and present properly. Adding in bones in her cape seems like it may be the easiest part, but that still would require a bit of work to unbind the existing animations around the cape (this includes things like her W, as well as her various movements), and then adding in the minor physics engine that they've given to champs like Ahri and Lissandra. Honestly, what you've suggested is a waste of time. They shouldn't invest in all of this minor, tedious work for a champion who's looking as rough as LeBlanc. They are better off just reinventing her from the ground up in a VGU (her kit has definitely gotten to the point where she needs one), and then going from there.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enWsx7Kl,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-02-13T17:08:11.351+0000) > > Your proposed changes are way too much work to be &quot;low cost/low time.&quot; Animations and rigging isn&#x27;t Microsoft Paint - You can&#x27;t just willy nilly copy/paste elements into one model and fix all of it&#x27;s problems. If you add or replace new elements to a model, you&#x27;d have to reattach it to the existing model, which takes more time than you think. You also have to make sure the new elements you&#x27;re now adding have proper placement on the texture map, and that will now require you to go in and redesign elements of the texture map so that the parts you added to the model have the proper texture displaying. > Same especially goes for modifying her belts. Those 3D shapes will have to be removed and rebuilt from scratch, and then applied to the existing rigging and texture map to make sure they move and present properly. > Adding in bones in her cape seems like it may be the easiest part, but that still would require a bit of work to unbind the existing animations around the cape (this includes things like her W, as well as her various movements), and then adding in the minor physics engine that they&#x27;ve given to champs like Ahri and Lissandra. > > Honestly, what you&#x27;ve suggested is a waste of time. They shouldn&#x27;t invest in all of this minor, tedious work for a champion who&#x27;s looking as rough as LeBlanc. They are better off just reinventing her from the ground up in a VGU (her kit has definitely gotten to the point where she needs one), and then going from there. Honey, I am going to school for 3D conceptual artistry and design and in my second year. I know how to detach, merge and paint skin weights onto models and it took me less then a day to do all the changes you saw up there. UV editing is not hard at all, simply merge the polygons into the DDS file and if they are borrowing assets from Ravenborn LeBlanc then they already have the hand skinned and it is as simple as cut/pasting and color matching it to her current model. I'm not saying they need to add physics to her cape, that's not what I was implying at all. I was stating they took the time and resources necessary to upgrade those older champions visuals, so they should give the same treatment to LeBlanc. Her cape doesn't need physics, the edges need cleaned up and smoothed so that the cape will flow nicer since it takes up majority of her champion silhouette. Putting bones in the cape is the ONLY moderately hard part, her existing animations would still have the bones required to play through - so it is as simple as animating the new bones in the cape, testing it and shipping it out. I don't know if you knew this, but if you delete/add bones to a model it still is able to move with the bones that it had previously because those didn't change. \ Additionally, the new bones would only have to be put onto the base skin animations as the other old LB models don't have capes (Prestegious and Wicked) and the newer LB models look good and don't have that same polygonal cape problem. So don't come for me and start telling me that these fixes are ridicules or won't ever work, if a 2 year college student can do it easily then Riot's professionals shouldn't have any problems at all.
: Or a full visual update. They are a large company and they have the power. Why put through a change like this if they can just redo her entirely amirite. They said they'd be putting more focus on visual updates this year anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Pi Xel Moloto V,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enWsx7Kl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-13T03:18:31.618+0000) > > Or a full visual update. They are a large company and they have the power. Why put through a change like this if they can just redo her entirely amirite. > > They said they&#x27;d be putting more focus on visual updates this year anyway. I would love to see a full VU, but unfortunatly they don't see LeBlanc with enough visual problems to redo her skins so I figured these are more realistic options! :)
Rioter Comments
: Riot Hylia's VU idea was pretty great for her imo. https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/401/510/large/thomas-randby-leblancredesign.jpg?1473309189 It really pushes LB, whilst still pushing the mandatory sex appeal of League females. I think maybe just replace the large headress behind her for something a little more Subtle and you've got a recognizable appropriate LB. Also a redesign would be nice so her hands don't look like feet https://image.prntscr.com/image/kI1V90KrTHGbq_iI5hwDaw.png
> [{quoted}](name=Sexy Jack Rabbit,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IbYRmVR5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-12T13:58:46.599+0000) > > Riot Hylia&#x27;s VU idea was pretty great for her imo. > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/401/510/large/thomas-randby-leblancredesign.jpg?1473309189 > > It really pushes LB, whilst still pushing the mandatory sex appeal of League females. > > I think maybe just replace the large headress behind her for something a little more Subtle and you&#x27;ve got a recognizable appropriate LB. > > Also a redesign would be nice so her hands don&#x27;t look like feet > > https://image.prntscr.com/image/kI1V90KrTHGbq_iI5hwDaw.png Said it once and I will say it again, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Hylia's design for LeBlanc. Her hands could use a remodel and at bare minimum it would be awesome if they could just add a few more bones into her cape 3D model to make it look less blocky/low poly.
: At this point, I genuinely feel the Balance Team should be the next major Rework.
Hope that all these likes will help the Riot team see that the community really would like change. Make Stopwatch into a summoner spell so everyone can't run it. Remove Kleptomancy and add runes for Bruisers.
: Riots balancing team criticism by a diamond player
Make Stopwatch a summoner spell. Problem = Solved
Rioter Comments
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 2
So happy to hear that LeBlanc may be getting a Mini-Revert. The new LeBlanc has too many balancing issues and I really felt the old LeBlanc was similar to the new Evelynn. Feast or Famine, and OP in the right hands, and that's what a good assassin should be. :) She does have a lot of options so I would like to see her R stay the same, but her passive is really the thing that is breaking her kit as well as her E. An Assassin as mobile and with so many options as LB **DOES NOT** need a snare, she can use her mobility to catch up to a target and blink back if it doesn't work. **E: **I'd like to see her E replaced with maybe the split apart kinda like shaco (or RR currently), where you can spawn the clone within a range and control the clone for maybe 5-6 seconds until you use an ability. It can apply on hit effects but that's all. That gives her an option for escape, initiation, kill-secure (with the 1/4 damage abilities) and deceit. **RE **: It would be the same as what E does but buffed - it would be a semi-permanent leashed version of the clone that copies every ability LeBlanc does for 15 seconds or until killed but this time the clone is able to inflict additional damage from her abilities (so this is the time to go all in!) **P:** Her Passive should return to the old one but with a twist, it spawns 3 Leblanc's that run in random directions (4 if you've saved up your E) but cannot be controlled. This will ensure she can escape without having a predictable pattern. **RR **: Called "Suprised to see me?" gives the ability to swap places with an ally within a certain range, almost like you "tag out". The enemy will be very surprised when LeBlanc appears when they were just about to get a kill! This would use up her Ultimate so she only has 3 abilities to use at this point, and one of them is a scout that can only apply on hit effects. Thoughts? This is a suggestion, and I'd be honored if Riot saw any of these and felt inclined to use it! - just let me use it on my resume when I apply to Riot Games! {{sticker:leblanc-funny}}
: lux splash art
*cough cough* {{champion:33}} *cough cough*
Seba7290 (EUNE)
: Which skins do you think are canon?
{{champion:7}} Ravenborn LeBlanc (It always felt like she was borrowing Beatrice to me) {{champion:25}} Exiled Morgana (Before she fell) {{champion:22}} Queen Ashe (Queen of the Feljord in lore) {{champion:16}} Divine Soraka (Before she was cursed) {{champion:134}} Justicar Syndra (Before she turned evil)
efflam (NA)
: Fairly soon.
> [{quoted}](name=efflam,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cuEnEWrc,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-01-23T00:54:32.668+0000) > > Fairly soon. {{sticker:katarina-love}}
Rioter Comments
: Why do I find the Champion movement animations so cute?!
: True Love
{{champion:7}} x {{champion:50}}
: Is Beatrice not a thing anymore?
I would like to see in the lore that he gave Beatrice as a gift to Ravenborn LeBlanc, maybe when he was trying to court her or as a small token to win her alliance and show her alliance to Swain and Noxus as a whole.
  Rioter Comments
: The crazy thing is, LeBlanc is (probably) even older than him. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zVdpde1w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-19T20:29:45.932+0000) > > The crazy thing is, LeBlanc is (probably) even older than him. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Doesn't she keep her youthful appearance from life essence in her Staff? Kinda like Mother Gothel from Tangled right? or are you talking about the TITLE of LeBlanc passed down to Evaine? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
  Rioter Comments
: Isn't she also J4? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IMnltkhy,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-01-16T21:57:50.465+0000) > > Isn&#x27;t she also J4? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I supposed Carrie would be J4 as well? {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Rioter Comments
Suasion (NA)
: Miss Fortune lore appearance > Miss Fortune's in-game appearance
A new walking animation would suit most of her skins. The current shimmy cycle works for Secret Agent (Jessica Rabbit), Arcade and Candy Cane but not any of her other badass skins. The walk cycle is really the issue with her base and other skins and I too would like to see a more appropriate walk for the skins that actually are more serious!
: Let's fix her kit then give her an 1820.
> [{quoted}](name=FurorDivinus27,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IMnltkhy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-15T07:28:04.855+0000) > > Let&#x27;s fix her kit then give her an 1820. Agreed! {{champion:7}}
  Rioter Comments
: How to improve Blitzcrank Q hitbox/visuals
This needs to be implemented <3 {{sticker:leblanc-funny}}
: Account Hacked
I'd submit a support ticket instead of posting it here. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us Post it there, they will reach out to you via email and you should go in to detail as much as possible.
: This Cant Be Normal WT!#!@
: [IDEA] Profile personalization, and other few tweaks to the profile page
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Kayn Mid (NA)
: Your issue is running Vista on a machine that only has 2GB of RAM.... When Vista uses 1.5GB Idle. Downgrade to XP, seriously. That will be an instant improvement on everything. But to answer your question. No, it won't fix your issues. My laptop is 3x more powerful than yours and Im getting 50 FPS on low in lane, 15 FPS in fights. You need to upgrade your laptop to at least a i3 5th gen or i5 3rd gen, 6GB RAM and at least a Intel 7 Series graphics (Nvidia 600 series minimum if it has dedicated graphics)
Show more

The Pale Woman

Level 57 (NA)
Lifetime Upvotes
Create a Discussion