: I am gonna clear up this Vladimir top misunderstandings
Top laners are just the crybabies of the century. They somehow pinned adc is the role that whines the most, yet top lane shits on every other role by miles and somehow still can’t accept that they aren’t weak.
Bevdog101 (OCE)
: Tips on countering Zed ult
Zed is one of the dumb champion riot made to be “high skill capped” but have dumbed down to the point of even someone like me being able to pull it off. Xayah is one of the best picks into him as an adc. Cause your ult just stops his. Next up would be taking exhaust yourself (only helps a little) And the last thing I could give is take double armor in your runes, and get that early chain vest. Other than that, he’s one of those champion riot has given 100% agency over your ass at all times.
datfatguy (OCE)
: Why has Vladimir avoided nerfs for so long now?
I mean. Almost every bruiser does the same thing. I fail to see why it’s only an issue when a mage does it.
: You REALLY don't understand the premise. PYKE CAN'T BUILD HP. AT ALL. SO TAKING BASE HP = reducing his entire possible viability. Pyke is NOT kitted like an assassin, although he is one. His skills hit once, the damage is small and mitigateable outside his ult, and generally Pyke already has the most deaths of any assassin in the game. He's basically become an Ult bot. And yeah. Pyke CAN BE PUNISHED HARD. W scaling to Lethality basically made it so almost half the adc roster can outrun Pyke. Champions like Yi/Diana can track and follow and assasinate him even while he's in W. Just because you are Bronze I, play nothing but Kayn and not much ranked at all..... doesn't mean Pyke isn't weak. Generally he is. The only thing carrying him right now..... is the double "Your Cut" that they gave him recently. https://u.gg/lol/combat/?role=support&rank=overall Order this by Deaths. Of all champs tracked as Support, Pyke is the 8th highest Deaths in the game, our of tracked champs. And if you look at the 7 with higher deaths, they are all the soft immobile mage targets. Talon and Zed average about the same amount of deaths as MID as Pyke as IS. With this nerf, Pyke is going to die MORE than assassins.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qx2wIOJs,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-10-23T07:01:25.396+0000) > > You REALLY don't understand the premise. > > PYKE CAN'T BUILD HP. AT ALL. SO TAKING BASE HP = reducing his entire possible viability. > > Pyke is NOT kitted like an assassin, although he is one. His skills hit once, the damage is small and mitigateable outside his ult, and generally Pyke already has the most deaths of any assassin in the game. > > He's basically become an Ult bot. > > And yeah. Pyke CAN BE PUNISHED HARD. W scaling to Lethality basically made it so almost half the adc roster can outrun Pyke. Champions like Yi/Diana can track and follow and assasinate him even while he's in W. Just because you are Bronze I, play nothing but Kayn and not much ranked at all..... doesn't mean Pyke isn't weak. Generally he is. The only thing carrying him right now..... is the double "Your Cut" that they gave him recently. > > https://u.gg/lol/combat/?role=support&rank=overall Order this by Deaths. > > Of all champs tracked as Support, Pyke is the 8th highest Deaths in the game, our of tracked champs. And if you look at the 7 with higher deaths, they are all the soft immobile mage targets. Talon and Zed average about the same amount of deaths as MID as Pyke as IS. With this nerf, Pyke is going to die MORE than assassins. For fucks sake. NO ONE CARES that he can’t build hp. He. Is. An. Assassin. A squishy highly mobile burst oriented champion. Not a fucking tank. And no. He isn’t punishable. He has the HIGHEST base armor in the game with the highest armor growth and will still have the highest base hp in the game. Tied with the PERFECT disengage tool that stops people from chasing him and a ms steroid that doubles as a stealth.
: They are burying Pyke.
Pyke is an assassin. Assassins are not suppose to be tanky. It’s bad enough have has hard cc and free sustain. When you physically cannot fuck up hard enough on a champion to be punished something has to take a hit. In this case his hp.
: What if botrk and trinity were zeal items?
You want frozen force yasuo back? Because that’s how you get frozen force back.
Magapiff (NA)
: ah I thought that was just to be cinematic
> [{quoted}](name=Magapiff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ylheM5V6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-23T01:16:16.676+0000) > > ah I thought that was just to be cinematic It might be. We don’t actually know yet. But it would kinda make since. Considering the lore. But eh lore wise malphite is suppose to be the size of a mountain soooooo.
Magapiff (NA)
: where did you find out she is going to have a spell shield? did it say anything else about her kit?
> [{quoted}](name=Magapiff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ylheM5V6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-23T01:10:33.059+0000) > > where did you find out she is going to have a spell shield? did it say anything else about her kit? In the release video she stopped thresh’s hook with a shield. So people are speculating it’s a spell shield.
: hmm "marksmen" with forms of disengage {{champion:22}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:67}}
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JNf1lydI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T23:40:19.738+0000) > > hmm "marksmen" with forms of disengage > > {{champion:22}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:67}} A ms steroid is not considered an engage tool So a slow is not a disengage tool.
: For once? Rhaast was the ONLY pick for a long long time lol, it is only just recently that Shadow became the better choice.
> [{quoted}](name=Mordistar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=0000000000000003,timestamp=2019-10-22T22:05:32.189+0000) > > For once? Rhaast was the ONLY pick for a long long time lol, it is only just recently that Shadow became the better choice. Rhaast was the only pick for 2 months. Then the meta shifted and for the past year and change it’s been only about burst. Which. Hate to break it to you, but shadow assassin does strictly better burst.
: I mean its still weaker then baron in a lot of games. The point of the change is to make it not feel like shit if you have no dragons actually making games go on longer since now there is two objectives to think about. If the team with all the dragons goes to baron they can easily lose elder dragon giving the other team a chance to come back. How about you actually think and not just cry because riot adding a execute to something.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ksm8h4mU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-22T18:44:50.635+0000) > > I mean its still weaker then baron in a lot of games. The point of the change is to make it not feel like shit if you have no dragons actually making games go on longer since now there is two objectives to think about. If the team with all the dragons goes to baron they can easily lose elder dragon giving the other team a chance to come back. > > How about you actually think and not just cry because riot adding a execute to something. New elder hard counters the baron buff. Entirely because of you die with the baron buff you lose it. And elder dragon buff is significantly better than baron buff for champion v champion.
Charmy Bird (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-22T17:58:02.354+0000) > > I also play both and I find the opposite true. Shadow assassin just has more carry potential with armor being as weak as it is. > > Sure. Rhaast is more durable, but that doesn’t matter nearly as much when the meta favors burst so much that tanks are being bursted. > > Also the game is more early focused, I find rhaast doesn’t do much until I have warrior and cleaver, where as shadow assassin spike HARD on just duskblade skipping right over warrior. Sadly u are right. In this snowball damage oriented meta there's no much space for rhaast. I was never a big assassin fan but I picked him up here and there this season and saw more success than I'd usually see hopefully this buff will help my Boi rhaast
> [{quoted}](name=Charmy Bird,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T18:42:52.478+0000) > > Sadly u are right. In this snowball damage oriented meta there's no much space for rhaast. I was never a big assassin fan but I picked him up here and there this season and saw more success than I'd usually see hopefully this buff will help my Boi rhaast Wait. We are getting buffs? I’m also in the same boat. I like rhaasts play style better. But shadow assassin just fits better atm. (Not that making some poor immobile adc cry as I dive them repeatedly isn’t fun)
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:34:33.649+0000) > > I can’t say I hate the play style. Seeing as I’m a Kayn player. But it would be fun for rhaast to be the correct choice for once. Kayn main here. Rhaast is literally always a good choice. He provides cc to the team, and his healing on ability damage keep him in fights longer.
> [{quoted}](name=DancingDinos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=0000000000000002,timestamp=2019-10-22T18:33:33.449+0000) > > Kayn main here. Rhaast is literally always a good choice. He provides cc to the team, and his healing on ability damage keep him in fights longer. Rhaast only becomes better after 3 completed items. And sure. He has aoe cc and healing. But. The aoe cc is extremely easy to dodge, and his healing is a non-factor before 3 items. He’s too squishy before then to be a reliable front liner. He HAS to build black cleaver, and warrior. He can’t go warrior into tank. Cleaver is a necessity item for him to do his job. And as I said before. We are in a meta that does not favor late game scaling on the slightest. If you don’t spike on 1 item, you will not be s tier. And if you don’t spike on 2 items, you will not be even b tier. Note. This is from someone who loves rhaast. It’s not like I hate the form, I actually like it better than shadow assassin. But it just takes too long to come online.
: No they don't lol. Especially not after Ashe's buffs. She'll poke draven, lock down Pyke easy if he moves forward. Braum is bad news for draven attacking her back. If Braum jumps into the stun they could lose but so long as he walls draven's Q they'll win. Post 6 they have the stunlock kill, just build up Ashe q on minions first.
> [{quoted}](name=WalkingInACircle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-22T18:32:15.870+0000) > > No they don't lol. Especially not after Ashe's buffs. She'll poke draven, lock down Pyke easy if he moves forward. Braum is bad news for draven attacking her back. If Braum jumps into the stun they could lose but so long as he walls draven's Q they'll win. Post 6 they have the stunlock kill, just build up Ashe q on minions first. Except they do. Even tho Ashe is “broken” right now. That lane cannot beat a Pyke draven comp. Ashe will not kite draven, draven will out damage them by miles, as will Pyke. And. Let’s say the scenario goes perfectly. Ashe gets a stun, into a braum knock up and somehow stuns draven. Cool. Now they get aoe cced by Pyke, eat a single draven axe, and Pyke ults. Lane is over gg.
: ? counterplay how? against adc? or against supports? since for the past 2-3 seasons, Supports do more dmg than adcs early, and ADCs are the worst position to play every season which they keep getting nerfed more and more and overtime are completely useless and bags of gold. This was shown in non marksmen meta, since every role in the game can do the adc role.
> [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TKJVlQER,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:58:39.273+0000) > > ? counterplay how? against adc? or against supports? since for the past 2-3 seasons, Supports do more dmg than adcs early, and ADCs are the worst position to play every season which they keep getting nerfed more and more and overtime are completely useless and bags of gold. This was shown in non marksmen meta, since every role in the game can do the adc role. You realize I’m saying adc doesn’t have counterplay options available to it right? Not that there isn’t counterplay to them.
Charmy Bird (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:34:33.649+0000) > > I can’t say I hate the play style. Seeing as I’m a Kayn player. But it would be fun for rhaast to be the correct choice for once. Rhaast has always been the correct choice. And here ladies and gentlemen is the clash of an assassin kayn main and a rhaast main. I play both but mostly rhaast
> [{quoted}](name=Charmy Bird,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-10-22T16:54:03.015+0000) > > Rhaast has always been the correct choice. > > And here ladies and gentlemen is the clash of an assassin kayn main and a rhaast main. I play both but mostly rhaast I also play both and I find the opposite true. Shadow assassin just has more carry potential with armor being as weak as it is. Sure. Rhaast is more durable, but that doesn’t matter nearly as much when the meta favors burst so much that tanks are being bursted. Also the game is more early focused, I find rhaast doesn’t do much until I have warrior and cleaver, where as shadow assassin spike HARD on just duskblade skipping right over warrior.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:34:33.649+0000) > > I can’t say I hate the play style. Seeing as I’m a Kayn player. But it would be fun for rhaast to be the correct choice for once. Rhaast is the Correct Choice into say, a Darius/Nunu/Blitz team where they don't instantly pop, also into heavy teamfight comps because of his W knockup
> [{quoted}](name=VanCanBanMan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:27:56.747+0000) > > Rhaast is the Correct Choice into say, a Darius/Nunu/Blitz team where they don't instantly pop, also into heavy teamfight comps because of his W knockup Even then. It’s so easy to get any of them to zero armor now that I can just force shadow assassin into every enemy and still win. Because damage is just that out of control.
: Enemy's ward number: 22+ The thigh guy's ward number: 9
> [{quoted}](name=7thHeaven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=99TRcEHN,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:21:07.580+0000) > > Enemy's ward number: 22+ > The thigh guy's ward number: 9 You realize my vision score so rarely drops below 30’its not even funny right? -.-
: So you give RIOT a reason to remove {{item:3361}} ??? Great job
> [{quoted}](name=7thHeaven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=99TRcEHN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:13:15.316+0000) > > So you give RIOT a reason to remove {{item:3361}} ??? > Great job Sure. If it gives me buyable greenwards back id happily give up trinket wards.
: what counters shaco bot lane?
Adc hasn’t had counterplay available to it for the past 2 years my guy. It’s basically just “hope your support can deal with it” the lane.
Subdue (NA)
: Unpopular Opinion: Damage Isn't Too High
5-6x longer than 0.02 seconds is only 0.10-0.12 seconds.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:08:28.502+0000) > > I mean. The issue is that damage is just too high. So high in fact that it just straight out beat defense and utility at all points in the game. > > A {{champion:555}} {{champion:119}} Beats a {{champion:22}} {{champion:201}} every time, without fail. Yep, can confirm. And in that kind of meta, why would you even bother bringing anything that doesn't provide more burst? Even I'm considering it, and I hate burst damage playstyles.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh56J3Aw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:12:50.079+0000) > > Yep, can confirm. And in that kind of meta, why would you even bother bringing anything that doesn't provide more burst? Even I'm considering it, and I hate burst damage playstyles. I can’t say I hate the play style. Seeing as I’m a Kayn player. But it would be fun for rhaast to be the correct choice for once.
: Perhaps the real reason the damage meta ruins the game.
I mean. The issue is that damage is just too high. So high in fact that it just straight out beat defense and utility at all points in the game. A {{champion:555}} {{champion:119}} Beats a {{champion:22}} {{champion:201}} every time, without fail.
: ok so who is better to one trick: nidalee or rengar
Nidalee is one of those champions that riot will not allow to be good. That being said she is very fun. Rengar on the other hand is about to be thrown into a state of the game where he is going to thrive in. Short term, do Rengar. Long term do nidalee.
: Counterplay to Zhonyas
Zhonya’s only seems super strong because it’s 1 of 2 defensive items in the game that actually works anymore.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GBO241U5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-21T02:43:16.428+0000) > > I mean. What’s unfair about a champion that you have to beat by ATLEAST 50% of your hp bar? Why did you let him get that close to you in the first place?
> [{quoted}](name=Ryumanyamana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GBO241U5,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-21T02:47:48.881+0000) > > Why did you let him get that close to you in the first place? *laughs in {{item:3078}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3800}} {{summoner:6}} and {{summoner:4}} * Yeah. I’m just going to out run this asshole moving at 900ms at will
: What if the bronze player has MMR equal to a gold player, but has not played enough games to reach gold yet?
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rJPKHeK7,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T02:58:52.865+0000) > > What if the bronze player has MMR equal to a gold player, but has not played enough games to reach gold yet? Then he should be playing with bronze players because he is currently a bronze player.
: Garen is not fair
I mean. What’s unfair about a champion that you have to beat by ATLEAST 50% of your hp bar?
: if no one likes assassin/tank/protect the adc/enchanter (then some more other ones i dont know) meta
Tank meta was the best. Because. You could actually do things. Outplays mattered. You didn’t get instantly deleted because some random fuck with a Ludens hit a minion near you.
: Characters we hate and why
Most liked champion {{champion:141}} Rewarding gameplay, with clear weaknesses Most hated. {{champion:245}} This is the only champion riot has given a button that basically says “rito I fucked up, plz help :c.” What id change. Remove the heal on his ult. It gets to keep its escape ability, but doesn’t allow him to go full r%%%%% into a 5 man team and still get away unscathed.
: If people put **that** many champions under their list of "unfun" to play against then maybe League isn't the game for you. I understand having your own personal "F*** this" list once you've played the game long enough (This is mine --> {{champion:105}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} ) but if you literally list 1/3rd of the champion list as unfun to play against then you're probably just better off not playing league.
> [{quoted}](name=JustDonnyy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vd8j5BuF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-21T02:08:44.690+0000) > > If people put **that** many champions under their list of "unfun" to play against then maybe League isn't the game for you. I understand having your own personal "F*** this" list once you've played the game long enough (This is mine --> {{champion:105}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} ) but if you literally list 1/3rd of the champion list as unfun to play against then you're probably just better off not playing league. My issue is in most of their newer champions. I could deal with old Yorrick all day. And that was considered by even riot to be so cancerous that he was never allowed during free rotation. Meanwhile, I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than deal with. Ahem. Akali, Garen, Pyke, quilanna, irelia, pantheon, mordekaiser or Sylas. All their new release/new reworks have just been pure un fun aids to deal with.
: > A. I should just be fucking gold > Or > B. They should be bronze 1 C: you dont understand how MMR works
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rJPKHeK7,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T01:26:48.571+0000) > > C: you dont understand how MMR works No. I’m well aware of how mmr works. The issue is riot has shoved a rank based system together with a mmr system and just let the shit run wild. If your mmr is lower than or equal to a bronze player. You should be bronze. This isn’t rocket science.
: Rank means nothing, especially that low. Their MMR could be as high as gold. you dont lose games because of it, because it is not relevant.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rJPKHeK7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-21T00:54:33.491+0000) > > Rank means nothing, especially that low. Their MMR could be as high as gold. you dont lose games because of it, because it is not relevant. Okay. If my mmr is high enough that I’m being matched with gold players, and their mmr is low enough to be matched with bronze 1 players. Then either A. I should just be fucking gold Or B. They should be bronze 1 Their match making is just fucked and I don’t know why you all continue trying to make excuses about it. -.-
Ekhasm (NA)
: Tanks should be doing 0 damage
If this is the case bruisers of all sorts shouldn’t be doing assassin level damage.
: Today Ning realized something a lot of junglers havent realized yet (AHQ vs IG)
Oh. My. Fucking. God. Top laners bitch about junglers being top lane. Top laners bitch about junglers ignoring top lane. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS! Oh wait. That’s right. Top lane is the lane that cries the most while also being the strongest lane in the game by miles. And you all want to keep up the facade of being “poor, abused, weak laners”.
: Tank meta here we go. Probably mage and tank because mages have Void and deathcap+ hourglass for def and they can kill tanks. Other than that bruisers will become even crappier. The best mr item is also for mages lmao. Well at least we will have Mordekaiser. Realistically conqueror is so shit that I just take Aftershock + precision secondary. Even skirmishers like Yasuo utilize fleet more often and later his damage comes from R armor pen. Morde uses it nicely, Jax, Yasuo( although fleet seems very good and better at times), Pantheon and some adcs(although they take PTA) At this point conqueror is so bad they might as well remove it and compensate by buffing bruiser items so they can fight tanks.
> [{quoted}](name=TeodorusofNoxus,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fmhLnQV2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T09:45:01.416+0000) > > Tank meta here we go. Probably mage and tank because mages have Void and deathcap+ hourglass for def and they can kill tanks. Other than that bruisers will become even crappier. The best mr item is also for mages lmao. Well at least we will have Mordekaiser. > Realistically conqueror is so shit that I just take Aftershock + precision secondary. Even skirmishers like Yasuo utilize fleet more often and later his damage comes from R armor pen. Morde uses it nicely, Jax, Yasuo( although fleet seems very good and better at times), Pantheon and some adcs(although they take PTA) At this point conqueror is so bad they might as well remove it and compensate by buffing bruiser items so they can fight tanks. If we fall into a tank meta. Fine. Fuck this burst meta. It’s just uninteractive garbage
Durgens226 (EUNE)
: You mean one of the best items in the game spot? Find me one player that doesn't play mages and doesn't hate Stopwatch
> [{quoted}](name=Durgens226,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0IkRBqnR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-20T08:50:17.917+0000) > > You mean one of the best items in the game spot? Find me one player that doesn't play mages and doesn't hate Stopwatch It’s only in a good spot because it’s one of 2 defensive options that actually works anymore. So yeah. When you compare it to the other defensive items, of course it looks god tier when they are all garbage.
: So are we going to openly ignore that Garen, Pyke, and Morgana are nearly all permaban status?
Fun fact. Morgs ban rate is only high because the only playable supports are hard countered by her.
CurS1VE (NA)
: i didn't say all that my post is about things that i've learned and i'm not bashing anyone
> [{quoted}](name=CurS1VE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3c4kOWPp,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-18T18:38:36.216+0000) > > i didn't say all that > > my post is about things that i've learned and i'm not bashing anyone I never said that’s what you said. I’m stating that ad my experience.
Azeranth (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Azeranth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3OgbvXN5,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-18T18:29:33.761+0000) > > No, you fucking illiterate mongoloid > > These buffs will make toplane less interactive, less fun, harder to solo carry and MORE OPPRESSIVE FOR OTHER LANES. > > Maybe you have a learning disability, but thats bad in case thats too hard for you to understand. How the fuck......... read your reply back to yourself. Cause you somehow managed to contradict yourself so fucking hard it’s not even funny. Also funny. You don’t have any actual arguments so you just insult me.
CurS1VE (NA)
: I swapped from Supo to ADC this is what i've learned
I play both adc and support. And mage supports are the worst thing ever as an adc. You just have to sit and accept you don’t have a support. You have a second Mid
Azeranth (NA)
: Changing Solo XP will Make Toplane Worse not Better.
Jesus. Do you top laners ever stop crying? You’re the strongest role in the game and have been babied up to get even more buffs and your crying “these buffs aren’t enooooooooooooough!”
: Horseshit. 1 q equals death mid game. Doesn't matter if you're the hard carry, 20/0 she can q you one time and turn the entire game around. The duration needs a nerf. And it needs a nerf now.
> [{quoted}](name=Kindredshouse,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sRfwEfsb,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-18T11:04:08.044+0000) > > Horseshit. 1 q equals death mid game. Doesn't matter if you're the hard carry, 20/0 she can q you one time and turn the entire game around. The duration needs a nerf. And it needs a nerf now. Better than every top laner that’s good now where eating 1 q instant kills you.
Neriticc (EUW)
: You want top lane to be weaker?
> [{quoted}](name=Neriticc,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FRjyl3d8,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-18T07:44:23.504+0000) > > You want top lane to be weaker? Considering it’s the only role in the game that matter right now. Yeah.
Neriticc (EUW)
: Why does bot lane towers even have turret plates?
Weird way to spell top lane. But okay.
Rioter Comments
: Why dont we just give her an execute on her R when the enemy is at 50% Hp?
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wXZlmGqQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-18T00:29:51.547+0000) > > Why dont we just give her an execute on her R when the enemy is at 50% Hp? It would fit riots current game design.
: You use the word "invalidated" wrong. BC does not "invalidate" armor. It decreases it by 24%. Not even 35% like {{item:3036}} . And it takes time to stack. And it is usually bought on champions who have melee range so they have to put themselves in danger of getting killed by enemies to stack that. And even if we just say that BC automatically removes 24% of all enemies' armor, that just makes it a bit weaker. Now you need something like 140 armor to reduce damage by 50%. ALL physical damage from ALL sources. No actions from that tank are required to do it, he just has that 2 armor items and makes all your team's AD 50% worse against him. Thats nowhere close to being invalidated. Void staff is mages last or second-to-last item. At that point of the game most mages can't really kill tanks in reasonable time. Fulltank Volibear can easily 1v1 fullap Lux with 0 mres items, just an example. There are exceptions(like {{champion:69}} ), but most of the time mages have really hard time against tanks and do much better job bursting non-tanks. With void staff there is at least some damage going to that tank.
> [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2k4EI98j,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-17T22:24:48.189+0000) > > You use the word "invalidated" wrong. > BC does not "invalidate" armor. It decreases it by 24%. Not even 35% like {{item:3036}} . And it takes time to stack. And it is usually bought on champions who have melee range so they have to put themselves in danger of getting killed by enemies to stack that. And even if we just say that BC automatically removes 24% of all enemies' armor, that just makes it a bit weaker. Now you need something like 140 armor to reduce damage by 50%. ALL physical damage from ALL sources. No actions from that tank are required to do it, he just has that 2 armor items and makes all your team's AD 50% worse against him. Thats nowhere close to being invalidated. > Void staff is mages last or second-to-last item. At that point of the game most mages can't really kill tanks in reasonable time. Fulltank Volibear can easily 1v1 fullap Lux with 0 mres items, just an example. There are exceptions(like {{champion:69}} ), but most of the time mages have really hard time against tanks and do much better job bursting non-tanks. With void staff there is at least some damage going to that tank. If conquerer has proven anything, it’s that getting 6 instances of physical damage on a target in a short time span is not that difficult a feat. But yes. Removing 24% armor is a big fucking deal. Tank items already lack in gold value. This makes it even worse.
: > Find me a heal that breaks 1k in one splat. I think Soraka and Yuumi heal strong enough. Not 1k per heal, but you are not supposed to outheal all damage in the game. > 40% armor reduction does make it useless. Considering you’ve just wasted 40% of your gold building it. 50% physical damage reduction means you wasted 50% gold buying AD items. Unless you waste some more gold to make that other gold not be wasted as much, but its still the waste nonetheless. And 50% is at 100 armor. Normally tanks have even more. At 200 armor even {{item:3036}} will only reduce it to 130, or 56% physical damage reduction. Thats 56% gold wasted even after wasting 2800 for an anti-armor item. Thats much more waste than your "40% reduction makes healing and armor useless"
> [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2k4EI98j,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-17T21:40:05.777+0000) > > I think Soraka and Yuumi heal strong enough. Not 1k per heal, but you are not supposed to outheal all damage in the game. > > 50% physical damage reduction means you wasted 50% gold buying AD items. Unless you waste some more gold to make that other gold not be wasted as much, but its still the waste nonetheless. > And 50% is at 100 armor. Normally tanks have even more. At 200 armor even {{item:3036}} will only reduce it to 130, or 56% physical damage reduction. Thats 56% gold wasted even after wasting 2800 for an anti-armor item. Thats much more waste than your "40% reduction makes healing and armor useless" No. 50% damage reduction does not mean you wasted 50% of your gold buying ad items. Because your ad still works against the entire enemy team. Where as everyone on your team gets the benefits of black cleaver and every mage in the game builds void staff. So those stats are ALWAYS being invalidated.
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