: Why no one playes him if he is so broken? Literally every enchanter is better. What’s your point?
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhBdU2HL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T04:16:01.932+0000) > > Why no one playes him if he is so broken? Literally every enchanter is better. What’s your point? Never said he was broken. Said he does too much damage with no items. And enchanters are fine. They don’t do nearly as much damage as him.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > Okay. So by your logic Morgana doesn’t have a stun or a root because she has to land her abilities to have them. > > Your thought process is so flawed it’s not even funny. :/ “he has to use his abilities to have them so we can’t count them as part of his kit!” What are you even saying? Going to respond to your edit first because you added more to the last comment instead of posting it all in one shot: >Not to mention 4/5 pieces >Of damage in his kit are >Aoe and without boots his w is not dodgeable. Yes, it is dodgeable. I do it on Pyke and Jhin all the time. If you're having _that_ much of a problem, buy boots early (which you should be doing anyway) and punish him _or_ have your support punish him. You're complaining about everything instead of _playing around it._ >Also nice job ignoring the damage amp >On his w and the burn damage on his everything, not to mention his passive. **"Obviously yes, Brand has more damage in his entire rotation but that goes back to what I said about him not having certain CC or utility abilities whereas Karma does have those tools."** Reading is fun, _you should try it some time._ > Okay. So by your logic Morgana doesn’t have a stun or a root because she has to land her abilities to have them. Again, _reading is really fun._ "Oh yeah, one single target skillshot stun that requires him to land another ability beforehand." #"requires him to land another ability beforehand" Are you behind minions or your tank? Congratulations! Brand cannot CC you at all. Now, this is the part where you complain about his totally broken ult or something like that because you want to keep changing the topic to fit your agenda. On the topic of CC: Brand has one _avoidable_, **blockable,** _telegraphed_ CC skillshot that he can only land IF he hits you with another ability first. But yeah, **soooooo** much CC and utility. You're wrong. Next. >Your thought process is so flawed it’s not even funny. :/ “he has to use his abilities to have them so we can’t count them as part of his kit!” My thought process is flawed yet you're the one who comes here almost every day to complain about champions that you don't know how to play against. Then, when people point out how **factually incorrect** you are, you try to pick at them and change the topic because you can't accept the harsh reality that you don't know what you're talking about.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhBdU2HL,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:18:29.408+0000) > > What are you even saying? > > Going to respond to your edit first because you added more to the last comment instead of posting it all in one shot: > > Yes, it is dodgeable. I do it on Pyke and Jhin all the time. If you're having _that_ much of a problem, buy boots early (which you should be doing anyway) and punish him _or_ have your support punish him. You're complaining about everything instead of _playing around it._ > > **"Obviously yes, Brand has more damage in his entire rotation but that goes back to what I said about him not having certain CC or utility abilities whereas Karma does have those tools."** > > Reading is fun, _you should try it some time._ > > Again, _reading is really fun._ > > "Oh yeah, one single target skillshot stun that requires him to land another ability beforehand." > #"requires him to land another ability beforehand" > > Are you behind minions or your tank? Congratulations! Brand cannot CC you at all. Now, this is the part where you complain about his totally broken ult or something like that because you want to keep changing the topic to fit your agenda. > > On the topic of CC: Brand has one _avoidable_, **blockable,** _telegraphed_ CC skillshot that he can only land IF he hits you with another ability first. But yeah, **soooooo** much CC and utility. > > You're wrong. > > Next. > > My thought process is flawed yet you're the one who comes here almost every day to complain about champions that you don't know how to play against. Then, when people point out how **factually incorrect** you are, you try to pick at them and change the topic because you can't accept the harsh reality that you don't know what you're talking about. Seeing as you have no actual input here I’m just going to ignore you. You say brand doesn’t have a stun because he has to use it which means arguing with you will forever be a fruitless effort.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > He does have utility and cc. :/ Oh yeah, _one_ single target skillshot stun that requires him to land another ability beforehand. So much utility and CC, you're right, Brand is broken. /s
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhBdU2HL,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:05:37.430+0000) > > Oh yeah, _one_ single target skillshot stun that requires him to land another ability beforehand. > > So much utility and CC, you're right, Brand is broken. > > /s Okay. So by your logic Morgana doesn’t have a stun or a root because she has to land her abilities to have them. Your thought process is so flawed it’s not even funny. :/ “he has to use his abilities to have them so we can’t count them as part of his kit!”
Hotarµ (NA)
: > So is syndra. She doesn’t have sky high bases. Slow. AOE knockback. > So is karma. She doesn’t have sky high bases MS boosting shield, root, slow. Also,** yes,** Karma's base damage on her Q is _very_ similar to Brand's base damage on his W. (both their most common damaging abilities) **Karma - 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 60% AP) Brand - 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 (+ 60% AP)** Here's the Q/W comparison aswell. _Karma W1 - 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 45% AP) Karma W2 - 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 90% AP)_ **Karma W TOTAL - 90/165/240/315/390 (+ 135% AP) Brand Q - 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 (+ 55% AP)** Being generous because I haven't even mentioned Karma's empowered Q bonus. Obviously yes, Brand has more damage in his entire rotation but that goes back to what I said about him not having certain CC or utility abilities whereas Karma _does_ have those tools. > So is lux. She doesn’t have sky high bases. 1-2 person 2 second root, AOE slow, vision from basic abilities.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhBdU2HL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:01:12.794+0000) > > Slow. AOE knockback. > > MS boosting shield, root, slow. > > Also,** yes,** Karma's base damage on her Q is _very_ similar to Brand's base damage on his W. (both their most common damaging abilities) > > **Karma - 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 60% AP) > Brand - 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 (+ 60% AP)** > > Here's the Q/W comparison aswell. > > _Karma W1 - 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 45% AP) > Karma W2 - 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 90% AP)_ > **Karma W TOTAL - 90/165/240/315/390 (+ 135% AP) > Brand Q - 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 (+ 55% AP)** > > Being generous because I haven't even mentioned Karma's empowered Q bonus. > > Obviously yes, Brand has more damage in his entire rotation but that goes back to what I said about him not having certain CC or utility abilities whereas Karma _does_ have those tools. > > 1-2 person 2 second root, AOE slow, vision from basic abilities. He does have utility and cc. :/ Not to mention 4/5 pieces Of damage in his kit are Aoe and without boots his w is not dodgeable. Also nice job ignoring the damage amp On his w and the burn damage on his everything, not to mention his passive.
Hotarµ (NA)
: The tradeoff is that he's immobile, squishy, and has no reliable CC. He is literally all damage and nothing else. Edit: Gotta love the Gameplay boards, downvoted because _grrr Brand bad_ meanwhile if you look at the information presented to you, you'll see that he actually isn't that bad.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhBdU2HL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T02:51:11.468+0000) > > The tradeoff is that he's immobile, squishy, and has no reliable CC. He is literally all damage and nothing else. So is syndra. She doesn’t have sky high bases. So is karma. She doesn’t have sky high bases So is lux. She doesn’t have sky high bases.
Rioter Comments
: I agree. I'm a Karma OTP, and there's no reason why she should be able to use it. Ranged champions also shouldn't be able to use Klepto at full effectiveness.
> [{quoted}](name=Makattack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:05:08.745+0000) > > I agree. I'm a Karma OTP, and there's no reason why she should be able to use it. Ranged champions also shouldn't be able to use Klepto at full effectiveness. They don’t get klepto at full effectiveness.
Lugg (NA)
: Kayn's Q has basically no CD and his R gives his E time to get off CD. Plus his R allows him to dodge abilities and he can chose which way to exit (usually to the nearest wall so he can E out there). He's one of the slipperiest champs in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rEatbUzv,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T22:28:21.482+0000) > > Kayn's Q has basically no CD and his R gives his E time to get off CD. Plus his R allows him to dodge abilities and he can chose which way to exit (usually to the nearest wall so he can E out there). He's one of the slipperiest champs in the game. His q has a 5 second cooldown. In a meta where everything dies in 0.006 seconds, that’s a long ass cooldown. His r gives him time yes, but is already conditional. His e duration becomes so short when he is in combat he can only make it through short walls. He isn’t slippery at all once he has been in combat with an enemy champion.
Lugg (NA)
: Kayne has plenty of ways to get out with his Q, E, and R. Plus he usually doesn't have to worry about getting out because he one shots whoever he goes on, even if he's behind.
> [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rEatbUzv,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T22:03:31.364+0000) > > Kayne has plenty of ways to get out with his Q, E, and R. Plus he usually doesn't have to worry about getting out because he one shots whoever he goes on, even if he's behind. R only allows him to dash to an enemy, e has to generally be used in order to get into a fight, and even if he has it up, it’s stupidly limited in combat, q is his main damage source, if he uses it to escape, he has no kill threat and even then. Small dash with a animation lock delay. Also, if you are getting one shot by a kayn who is behind, that says more about you than him.
Trogmar (NA)
: Most Balanced champions?
{{champion:141}} . Weak early, entirely skillshot reliant. Countered by correct items.
Zardo (NA)
: I'm getting super tired of hearing people complain about "mages" being broken
hashinshin is an idiot who think the only champions that should be playable are bruisers soooo
: Make frozen gauntlet melee only please?
The typical boards rant. (Insert ranged champion here) is so dumb with (Insert item here Ezreal builds) make it melee only!
: Goodbye Solo Lane Pyke
Good. Now we just need to gut him to not be stupid af in support and we are golden.
: nerf jinx.
Jinx isn’t even that broken. It’s the current support line up that makes her good. Have you ever seen a jinx/ any passive support ever lane. It’s fucking sad.
: Hashinshin: MR items are weak, Armor items are too strong
Hashinshin is also an idiot who thinks the only class that should be playable in this game is bruisers sooo
: Why are you still buffing AP items?
Meanwhile {{item:3147}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3161}} {{item:3053}} All still exist. :/ but mage items are too op.
: Pyke and what that champ is
Pyke was a mistake. Nothing more needs to be said.
: Manaless Champions
Or give them cooldowns that aren’t 0.0000004 seconds.
: Why the nerfs suggested will break not only solo lane pyke but also support
Keep his ass gutted. This champion was a mistake to have ever been made.
: What is your Most Cancerous Build?
{{champion:78}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3009}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3071}}
Barso55 (NA)
: WTF is not leashing your jungler or protecting buffs the new meta? (SEA Garena)
I follow the rule of. If you don’t leash me, don’t expect me to ever gank your lane.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GTflp1hB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T17:16:36.342+0000) > > Yea now you just die in .2 seconds regardless of what you play > > So much better Being punished for mistakes sounds right. Also stop exaggerating...
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GTflp1hB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T17:20:32.675+0000) > > Being punished for mistakes sounds right. > > Also stop exaggerating... There’s a difference between punished for mistakes, and punished for existence. Also he isn’t exaggerating. :/ that’s the average time to kill right now.
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T18:33:46.490+0000) > > Atleast most mage shit is actually dodgeable. The number one thing i see you complain about day in and day out is Zed who’s entirely dodgeable
> [{quoted}](name=PimpStickNasus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T16:31:04.150+0000) > > The number one thing i see you complain about day in and day out is Zed who’s entirely dodgeable Oh yeah. His r-e-auto-ignite isn’t dodgeable without flash. Totally fair and counterable gameplay right there.
: > [{quoted}](name=MalignMetal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juB4OEEr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T04:29:02.260+0000) > > A Tank meta CANNOT exist anymore. Conqueror exists. > > People who are afraid of a Tank meta are 100% FUCKING stupid If someone thinks that there is something certain in this game, that's mistake. Everything is changable in this game, tank meta will come, just wait.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juB4OEEr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T05:09:25.170+0000) > > If someone thinks that there is something certain in this game, that's mistake. Everything is changable in this game, tank meta will come, just wait. Tank meta physically can’t happen with Conquerer Lord Dominik’s Mortal reminder Bork Black cleaver Void staff Liandries Every champion have some bs than includes the words. Ahem. %hp damage %missing hp damage True damage %armor shred %mr shred
: What role carries the hardest in low elo?
Top lane is the only role that really matters in any elo now. So
: Half of those champs arent supposed to get fed, the other half arent supposed to get in melee range, then theirs aatrox....... That being said, no most top lane champs are horribly unsafe if NOT ahead. Riven for instance, has all the saftey in the world, until she gets hit by morgs q because she couldnt 100/0 morg because she wasnt 6/0. A lot of top laners are USELESSSSSSSSSSSS vs disengage and poke. Sadly the most toxic top (jax) that can actually solo carry wasnt listed.
> [{quoted}](name=Eonslegacy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5ubNceOG,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T08:57:48.225+0000) > > Half of those champs arent supposed to get fed, the other half arent supposed to get in melee range, then theirs aatrox....... > That being said, no most top lane champs are horribly unsafe if NOT ahead. > Riven for instance, has all the saftey in the world, until she gets hit by morgs q because she couldnt 100/0 morg because she wasnt 6/0. > A lot of top laners are USELESSSSSSSSSSSS vs disengage and poke. > Sadly the most toxic top (jax) that can actually solo carry wasnt listed. No champion is “suppose” to get fed. Yet these champions have such an insane impact when they do (note I said when, not if) that no other role can get close to dealing with them. And weak to cc? Mkay. Doesn’t matter when you can’t die because “oh I have a steraks and deaths dance”. Then they run you down at 980ms because Lul black cleaver and deadman’s.
: NEW LETHALITY ITEM
Lethality doesn’t need any help.
: I never make posts like this, but
Pyke is cancerous And anti fun in every lane. Gutt him plz
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:40:39.664+0000) > > Because. They are playing her to near perfect degrees. Are you saying you are playing against sona players who are playing near PERFECTLY? Okay Mr. Smartass, do you know why League is popular and relevant all over the world? It's not because of the biweekly patch cycles, nor the fan service champs. It's from people watching pros play at their best vs teams from different regions of the world. It's a legitimate sport, like football, baseball, or soccer. If Riot didn't cater to the people who are the best at what they do, which certainly isn't you, then the game would've turned dogshit years ago. Hell, why do you think Akali was nerfed AGAIN? It's because she has a steep learning curve with a high skill cap. Do you know who can master Akali? The pros. Do you know why they nerf Shen? It's because normie idiots don't know game-sense and teamplay enough to use his ult properly. Do you know who can play Shen well? The pros. I can't seem to make it any more simple for you than that. You want to feature broke-ass champs then have pros abuse them in a competitive scene? Good luck with a dead game, because you just ruined League.
> [{quoted}](name=spicymonki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=000100010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-15T20:00:47.477+0000) > > Okay Mr. Smartass, do you know why League is popular and relevant all over the world? It's not because of the biweekly patch cycles, nor the fan service champs. It's from people watching pros play at their best vs teams from different regions of the world. It's a legitimate sport, like football, baseball, or soccer. If Riot didn't cater to the people who are the best at what they do, which certainly isn't you, then the game would've turned dogshit years ago. Hell, why do you think Akali was nerfed AGAIN? It's because she has a steep learning curve with a high skill cap. Do you know who can master Akali? The pros. Do you know why they nerf Shen? It's because normie idiots don't know game-sense and teamplay enough to use his ult properly. Do you know who can play Shen well? The pros. I can't seem to make it any more simple for you than that. You want to feature broke-ass champs then have pros abuse them in a competitive scene? Good luck with a dead game, because you just ruined League. Nice b8 m8 I love how salty you people get when you’re told you aren’t a fucking pro.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: https://u.gg/lol/champions/garen/build ye ye ok dude
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:57:56.476+0000) > > https://u.gg/lol/champions/garen/build > > ye ye ok dude https://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ But im sure you’ll just say “not my source so it doesn’t count” while you fish for stats that match what you want to push.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:51:37.768+0000) > > She has a 53% winrate with a 4% pick rate. Maybe if she was had a higher actual pick rate she might be overpowered but no. It’s people who actually play her inflating her. > https://u.gg/lol/champions/sona/build she actually has 53% win rate and 6% pick rate let's take those stats, but if you think that 6% pick rate is not a large sample then no need to argue further > And okay. By the logic you’ve just put down. Garen is op by default because he is stupid easy and has a decent winrate. Garen doesn't give troubles to the best players in the game Garen doesn't have 54% win rate Garen is shit and if Garen was ever allowed to dominate the best playerrs in the game **he would be instantly hammered** because of the lack of counterplay he has
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=00010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:54:42.905+0000) > > https://u.gg/lol/champions/sona/build > she actually has 53% win rate and 6% pick rate > let's take those stats, but if you think that 6% pick rate is not a large sample then no need to argue further > > Garen doesn't give troubles to the best players in the game > Garen doesn't have 54% win rate > Garen is shit > > and if Garen was ever allowed to dominate the best playerrs in the game **he would be instantly hammered** because of the lack of counterplay he has Garen has a 53.25% winrate. :/ he’s the 7th highest winrate.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Ye, the sona mechanics ARE DAMN strong indeed > Are you saying you are playing against sona players who are playing near PERFECTLY? this champion is made for trash people, you don't have to do anything near perfection, she has 54% win rate which is one of the highest in the game, requieres no skill to poke, and DOESNT EVEN FARM while stacking gold with klepto and support item. Then you have to deal with an assassin that has team wide utility this really is the example of a good balanced champion
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:46:50.028+0000) > > Ye, the sona mechanics ARE DAMN strong indeed > > this champion is made for trash people, you don't have to do anything near perfection, she has 54% win rate which is one of the highest in the game, requieres no skill to poke, and DOESNT EVEN FARM while stacking gold with klepto and support item. > Then you have to deal with an assassin that has team wide utility > > this really is the example of a good balanced champion Her win rate is 53%. With a 4% pick rate. So the logic you are laying down. Every easy champion is op. Going by what you’ve just stated. Volibear is overpowered. Garen. Is overpowered Zilean. Is overpowered. Fucking Annie. Annie. ANNIE is overpowered if we use the metric that you’ve just layed out.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Ye, the sona mechanics ARE DAMN strong indeed > Are you saying you are playing against sona players who are playing near PERFECTLY? this champion is made for trash people, you don't have to do anything near perfection, she has 54% win rate which is one of the highest in the game, requieres no skill to poke, and DOESNT EVEN FARM while stacking gold with klepto and support item. Then you have to deal with an assassin that has team wide utility this really is the example of a good balanced champion
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:46:50.028+0000) > > Ye, the sona mechanics ARE DAMN strong indeed > > this champion is made for trash people, you don't have to do anything near perfection, she has 54% win rate which is one of the highest in the game, requieres no skill to poke, and DOESNT EVEN FARM while stacking gold with klepto and support item. > Then you have to deal with an assassin that has team wide utility > > this really is the example of a good balanced champion She has a 53% winrate with a 4% pick rate. Maybe if she was had a higher actual pick rate she might be overpowered but no. It’s people who actually play her inflating her. And okay. By the logic you’ve just put down. Garen is op by default because he is stupid easy and has a decent winrate. Every champion who is “easy” is op. Because you can’t figure out how to outplay them.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: > Pro play is irrelevant. how is it irrelevant? if they're the best players in the world and they can't deal with Sona HOW THE FUCK IS IT IRRELEVANT?
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:37:57.801+0000) > > how is it irrelevant? > if they're the best players in the world and they can't deal with Sona HOW THE FUCK IS IT IRRELEVANT? Because. They are playing her to near perfect degrees. Are you saying you are playing against sona players who are playing near PERFECTLY?
: Laughs in Syndra
> [{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:18:40.319+0000) > > Laughs in Syndra And pray tell. How is syndra’s viability looking? Here I’ll do the leg work for you Play rate 1.28% fair to say mostly played by her mains. Win rate. 47.06%. One of the lowest winrates in mid. Placed 38/42 actually.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: yea do you see assassins picked in LCK? don't think so when a piece of shit of design like Sona is picked in pro constantly, and giving enemies no chance to survive while they're the best in the game I think it should ring a fucking alaram
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:25:54.620+0000) > > yea > > do you see assassins picked in LCK? > don't think so > > when a piece of shit of design like Sona is picked in pro constantly, and giving enemies no chance to survive while they're the best in the game I think it should ring a fucking alaram Pro play is not the same as average play. They are playing a COMPLETELY different game. I am not a pro. You are not a pro No one on these boards is a pro Pro play is irrelevant.
: Reduce klepto gold on ranged champions
It already gives ranged champions less. :/ this ranged champ hate Boner is getting old.
: Nobody: Mages exist:
> [{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyFiPN5z,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-15T18:01:14.309+0000) > > Nobody: > Mages exist: Atleast most mage shit is actually dodgeable.
: Played two games where my support decided to do a smite, river support thing.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: I don't understand why enchanters are allowed to have no counterplay
I mean. Assassins have no counterplay either sooooo.
netmyers (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=000400000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:18:50.704+0000) > > They serve the exact same role. Engage. :/ thresh is built as a tank, pyke is built as an assassin. thresh stays close to his team and pyke roams. thresh can protect his adc, pyke cannot peel.
> [{quoted}](name=netmyers,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0004000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T12:41:08.214+0000) > > thresh is built as a tank, pyke is built as an assassin. thresh stays close to his team and pyke roams. thresh can protect his adc, pyke cannot peel. Thresh roams as much as pyke does during the lane. Also Pyke can peel. Very easily. As for their build difference. I’d argue pyke is tankier than thresh with his grey health bs and one-hundred and thirtyfuckingfive base armor.
YaraUwU (NA)
: I'd love to hear you explain that statement.
> [{quoted}](name=YaraUwU,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5ubNceOG,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T09:58:10.518+0000) > > I'd love to hear you explain that statement. Everything in top is so blatantly busted no other role can deal with them. If your toplane feeds Aatrox Irelia Riven Darius Camille Renekton Akali Fiora Illaoi Kayle Kled Nasus Urgot Yoric No one can stop them. They solo win the game. If your say, jinx gets fed the response is just “oh, burst her out and call it a day” can’t do that with these fucking tanky damage ridden monsters in top lane. :/
: All tank supports dont feel tanky enough.
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: She shouldn't be different and she isn't she loses most of her power if she wastes ult......
> [{quoted}](name=kda akali,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ai2PhHUo,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T05:25:48.318+0000) > > She shouldn't be different and she isn't she loses most of her power if she wastes ult...... Exactly. Her losing kill pressure if she has to user her ult is the same as every other champion. In fact it’s better. Because a lot don’t have that benefit.
: If you use R as an escape tool early/mid game, you lose so much of your power. You basically are useless for about 100 seconds. W can be used defensively, but you can punish her when it's down. Many other champions have a "free escape tool" if you want to categorize them that way. {{champion:103}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:238}}
> [{quoted}](name=kda akali,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ai2PhHUo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T05:08:55.921+0000) > > If you use R as an escape tool early/mid game, you lose so much of your power. You basically are useless for about 100 seconds. > > W can be used defensively, but you can punish her when it's down. > > Many other champions have a "free escape tool" if you want to categorize them that way. {{champion:103}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:238}} Yes. And they all lose power the same way. Why should akali be different? If I use my ult on say syndra and fail to kill. I have no power anymore. Why should akali be different?
: Talon needs some attention
I was fine with everything until “nerf tabi’s and seeker’s” This game already has a damage problem why nerf tank stats even more?
: Why is Riot dumbing Akali's mechanics down...
It’s so it’s isn’t a free escape tool and requires no thought other than “I don’t wanna be here”
: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=urf0X16p,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T04:08:46.916+0000) > > Fine then. Name one thing that gives botlane any influence on the map. > Seeing every everyone spews how op botlane is. Drake, double people, adc in botlane, fastest first turret, etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=urf0X16p,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T04:29:32.891+0000) > > Drake, double people, adc in botlane, fastest first turret, etc. Drake, easily countered by rift herald Double people, junglers camp top Adc - any bruiser ever Arguable, considering demolish and rift herald Yeah no. Toplane has just as much as botlane. :/
YaraUwU (NA)
: I cannot fucking stand when junglers get to camp top unanswered.
Top lane is litteraly the only role that matters and somehow you all still cry that someone can make their top laner stronger? Jesus Christ.
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