: > [{quoted}](name=TheCraterEffect,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IsntV0t9,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-30T23:13:44.014+0000) > > i completely understand that its never the correct thing to do maybe morally to retaliate back. but my retaliation was not toxic, no where under the league rules does it say that asking another player if im still (insert whatever nasty name they called me) after i made a good play. i did not name call in that sentence, i didn't belittle and i wasn't racist or threatening i simply just asked if she thought i was still brain dead. as of threatening, i did not threaten her at all with reports throughout the logs i was all chatting requesting the other team to report her because both teams saw her run through the towers and die on purpose and she did it multiple times. Retaliation is always toxic. The correct action is to mute/block the user and report them. You will never, ever, ever make a situation better by retaliating. You may think you're smiplly defending yourself, but even if that's the case, it's still better to just block them and carry on and use the report. Your reports will also be more effective the less you're involved in the incident.
re·tal·i·a·tion: "The action of harming someone because they have harmed oneself; revenge." retaliation is always toxic but here is the definition, by this definition what i said what not retaliation. no where did i put anything in that sentence that would be considered to be a attack or trying to offend anyone. i asked her if she still thought i was brain dead. that wasn't said in a offensive manner it was just kinda like a little show boat about a play i made. just a fyi i do agree with a lot that you say and to sum it up its a better safe than sorry situation but i consider myself a logical thinker and if a company is going to put out a set of rules it has to be logical, consistent and when your talking about permanently banning someone from accessing a account they have a lot of hours into or have spent money on, (for me its mostly just it takes forever to get champions) its scary to know that there are grey areas, and i mean there really i will admit according to the rules i will say i was wrong for saying your garbo and the "smart" thing but i just dont think there should be grey area rules and we are all human, we all have emotions and especially when people have other things in their life it just feels good to let them fly. Chat is apart of the fun in almost every game, in league it feels like a prison. for future reference does anyone know if there is a enable and disable chat button
Jo0o (NA)
: Don't feed me that shit. You spammed insults, ranging from sarcastic quips to directly disparaging remarks. You spammed "cry" and "6 deaths", you threatened reports, you called them a troll. Almost every single thing you said throughout that entire game was disparaging of your own teammate. This is toxicity at its most basic.
well if you read any of the other chats you would have saw that ive been saying nothing has truly been spammed there was zero intent to spam i was running at high ping and that chat wouldn't show up when i texted it so i typed it being my impatient self and it all popped up all at once, don't start making up stuff to try and bury me in and make it look worse than it is, "you threatened reports." no where ever did i threaten a report the other team threatened to report my sion for toxicity even though he had not said a word in chat so i said don't waste your time reporting and then i asked them to report lissandra for straight out inting because she was, it wasn't a threat it was a request to the other team. i called her a troll because she was. troll is not a insult its like me calling you a boy or a girl, it wasn't like she was having a bad game. she was literally running at their nexus being like "oh no i am lagging" sarcastically as their towers killed her. there is no miscommunication in identifying a troll or a bad game, there is no grey area if your having a bad game and your lagging so bad that you cant play you don't right click on the enemies nexus.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCraterEffect,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IsntV0t9,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-08-30T22:55:21.296+0000) > > what do you mean? the "and im brain dead" was not me being toxic, she called me and my jungler brain dead earlier so i just restated the question after i made a good play, looking for her response and if she would say i was still brain dead after saving her. the 0/1 part is because she was complaining about my jungler being 1/3 and how she wants to ff so my jungler said to her your not doing that good either and i said 0/1 and he said focus on your own lane to her and thats what the up arrow was for Retaliating against an agressive statement is never the answer and even if "they started it", calling them names too does not get you out of being penalized. If someone says something crappy to you, keep your cool and report them after the match. Don't threaten to report them either, simply mute them and report them. It will be more pleasant for you and more pleasant for everyone else in the game.
i completely understand that its never the correct thing to do maybe morally to retaliate back. but my retaliation was not toxic, no where under the league rules does it say that asking another player if im still (insert whatever nasty name they called me) after i made a good play. i did not name call in that sentence, i didn't belittle and i wasn't racist or threatening i simply just asked if she thought i was still brain dead. as of threatening, i did not threaten her at all with reports throughout the logs i was all chatting requesting the other team to report her because both teams saw her run through the towers and die on purpose and she did it multiple times.
: 1) You had to have received a 14-day ban before, meaning you were on thin ice. Even if you called someone an idiot, that would have been enough to get you perma-banned 2) Yes, you belittled them a lot. “Garbo.” “Cry cry cry.” “Top of your class” you also practically threw the game in a sense “I don’t heal trolls.” Well deserved ban
i said cry 3 times because i was 150 plus ping all game and it would spike and when i would type it wouldn't show it in the chat so i thought it didn't send and i typed again. saying cry isn't belittling her. she was talking about how she was going to run it down again and i said smart and then she said yeah top of my class and i just repeated it because it sounded funny because she was talking so high of herself. and about the last part? that is the worst one to argue of all the chat log. i was below half hp and sorakas heal makes her lose health, she flashed under the tower at 400 hp ran straight down towards there nexus and died and blamed me for not healing? you say im the one trolling in that situation
: I didn't even need to get that far lol, .. Yeah, probably.
what do you mean? the "and im brain dead" was not me being toxic, she called me and my jungler brain dead earlier so i just restated the question after i made a good play, looking for her response and if she would say i was still brain dead after saving her. the 0/1 part is because she was complaining about my jungler being 1/3 and how she wants to ff so my jungler said to her your not doing that good either and i said 0/1 and he said focus on your own lane to her and thats what the up arrow was for
Kei143 (NA)
: You can swear many times, that won't get you punished, but you will get punished if you use a swear word in conjunction with harassing/ insulting others. On that note, you can also harass and insult others without using swear words, which is what you did here.
in my opinion there was only one time i insulted her in the chat and that was when i said your garbo and all i did was throw it back at her which i understand isn't a excuse but a permanent ban over that seems a little over board is all i am saying
Jo0o (NA)
: You spent roughly the entire game harassing your teammates. Combined with your 14-day ban, which judging by your match history seems to have been at the tail end of last month, you're a prime candidate for a perma. Sorry.
i was having a conversation with only one of my teammates (the inting one) and it wasn't harassing it was a conversation with her, nothing there was belittling or harassing. she was saying she was the best on the team and doing the best on the team and that's why i said 6 deaths she ran it down mid lane died under tower and then said i was bad for not healing her when she flashed under tower at 300 hp with no one near by and thats why i said i don't heal trolls. simply stating in chat why i did not heal her because she was complaining about it is not harassment
: Seems like a valid punishment if you have had a 14-day ban recently. You're on thin ice after one of those and this game has a bunch of belittling and insulting.
can you specifically point out what ones were belittling and insulting, also on a side note i dont think you can get a punishment for belittling even if i was
: Please review this ban, i truly believe i am not in the wrong!
if you have any question about my chat or what i said feel free to ask i will frequently check the thread but a lot of it you would understand if you saw my inting mid laners chat logs or the lag that made it when i typed cry it didn't show up so i typed it two more times and then it spammed in chat.
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