: Am I the only one getting rekt by a flux of Tryndameres
I'm sorry I can only upvote this once. Trynd is one of those champs that "good players" have always abused to climb to high ranks. He thrives vs teams who have less coordination and weak to average CS ability. Essentially you can call him a noob stomper but since you don't need to be good at the champ yourself to achieve a high cs and kills I just think he's simply a b/s champ.
Sillae (NA)
: Players: We want Nexus Blitz to be a Permanent Mode!
Dude why does TFT look like some grotesque offspring of lootbox opening and an idle game? I thought it was going to be like a tactics game... like... tactics. This game looks booty lol AND didnt DOTA2 already make a game just like it? WTF wheres the originality anymore in game development?
: {{champion:29}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:104}} in jungle {{champion:42}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:222}} in mid {{champion:133}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:67}} have been top {{champion:22}} {{champion:21}} were both played support for a bit there too Yeah, its not even close to the diversity that Mages and Fighters can go, but its not zero. EDIT: {{champion:236}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}} are all played outside of bot ADC as well
you can add Lucien mid and i've seen plenty of jhin top (not common but still)
: Yep, you've done a great job of quoting every single line left intentionally obscure, with nothing concrete. Hell, you even included one of the lines that works against you, "Poppy’s been tasked with delivering a legendary hammer to a hero who will become legend." And _especially_, that line by O'Bryan. Saying that she is what gives the hammer its strength contradicts the idea that the hammer has any special value in the first place. If it's really Poppy, not the hammer, then it stands to reason it doesn't matter what hammer she's using. Nevermind the fact she shows just as much strength with her completely ordinary buckler. Though the contradictions are more a sign of O'Bryan being a poor writer, the fact of the matter still stands that nothing in the story says concretely that she is the hero. In fact, you've pointed out more lines that serve as evidence that she isn't.
Also, Why would that line by O'Bryan be a mark against her being the Hero? You'd have to explain that. The hammer is simply a symbol, not the reason. She's what makes her the hero, the hammer just symbolizes her heroism. Its a mark or a brand. So, to her and really to the outcome of things, it doesn't matter that she's using that particular hammer to do the things she does. You're missing the purpose of why he gave her the hammer. He gave her the hammer because it was for the Hero of Demacia. If it was a cloak, or a ring, or a shoe, it wouldn't matter. For further context: it is said that the hero would "unlock the full power of the hammer". Now we could say there's some hidden magical element to the hammer that poppy may have already unlocked or (the more likely explanation) it could be that the hidden power is just the ability to wield it properly or to its fullest potential, which poppy obviously can.
: Yep, you've done a great job of quoting every single line left intentionally obscure, with nothing concrete. Hell, you even included one of the lines that works against you, "Poppy’s been tasked with delivering a legendary hammer to a hero who will become legend." And _especially_, that line by O'Bryan. Saying that she is what gives the hammer its strength contradicts the idea that the hammer has any special value in the first place. If it's really Poppy, not the hammer, then it stands to reason it doesn't matter what hammer she's using. Nevermind the fact she shows just as much strength with her completely ordinary buckler. Though the contradictions are more a sign of O'Bryan being a poor writer, the fact of the matter still stands that nothing in the story says concretely that she is the hero. In fact, you've pointed out more lines that serve as evidence that she isn't.
Do you just enjoy taking things out of context? Keep reading... "Poppy’s been tasked with delivering a legendary hammer to a hero who will become legend. Journeying through Runeterra, she uncovers a number of would-be wielders, **but never suspects the hammer might have found the right person already.**"
Ralanr (NA)
: Double checked and you are right. It's been a long time since I read her lore. Though I have my doubts that Poppy isn't the hero, especially with the last paragraph in her Bio: "Orlon passed the hammer to Poppy on his deathbed, and with it, his hope of an enduring kingdom. It was only then that Orlon told her the story of his weapon’s creation, and how it was never truly intended for his hands. He explained to Poppy that the hammer was meant to go to the Hero of Demacia–the only one who could keep Demacia whole. As her friend drew his last breath, Poppy swore to him that she would find this hero and place the weapon in his hands. But what Poppy possesses in resolve, she lacks in ego, as it never even occurred to her that **she might be the hero Orlon described**." I don't think Riot is planning on subverting expectations with who the hero is by saying it belongs to someone else. A lot of Poppy's character is having confidence in herself and overcoming her imposter syndrome. To have her character finally end up finding the hero as someone else, rather than for her to accept the responsibility of being the hero, would be a disservice.
It's pretty obviously Poppy who is intended to be the Hero...
: Well he is prob the most popular champion sooo......
I mean I said it was obvious... But riot pretends to not play favorites. Thats my issue. Why can't they just be transparent? Everyone knows he gets special treatment, why not just say Riot: "We will be releasing skins for champions based on their popularity.. thanks, oh and it will determine the quality and price of the skin as well... and if they get chromas"
Rioter Comments
: You're right i don't want Nubrac on my team even though i support him.
Mr Meat (OCE)
: Didn't realize taking games hostage was okay then? Oh, it's not? I guess you do actually want him banned then, because you surely wouldn't blindly support someone or something because it had been presented to you in a certain way, now would you?
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Meat,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-22T00:02:51.646+0000) > > Didn't realize taking games hostage was okay then? > Oh, it's not? > I guess you do actually want him banned then, because you surely wouldn't blindly support someone or something because it had been presented to you in a certain way, now would you? who was taking the game hostage? The guy who sat at fountain and afk'd the rest of the game or the guy playing some annoying ass strat but still trying to win?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDevice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T20:22:12.476+0000) > > Ok, where's the proof he was griefing? > > ............................ oh, right. You don't have any. Proof? There is a rule in the summoners code that goes like this : >Enjoy yourself, but not at the expense of others. His entire strategy has the baseline of screwing his botlaner over hard, and likely so his jungler as well, even his midlaner if really badly out. As for proof? His videos with him doing it are still available, even promoting it to others.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=000600000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T00:34:06.168+0000) > > Proof? > > There is a rule in the summoners code that goes like this : > > His entire strategy has the baseline of screwing his botlaner over hard, and likely so his jungler as well, even his midlaner if really badly out. > > As for proof? His videos with him doing it are still available, even promoting it to others. "at the expense of others" has to be the most wishy-washy b/s ive ever seen. So anyone who just doesn't like the way somebody is playing should be allowed to get them banned?
Rioter Comments
: Oh boy, people are still talking about Nubrac? Did no one see the Riot response?
NB talks shit to Nubrac in champ select, talks shit to nubrac in game (in chat), afk's at fountain... This isn't punishable?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDevice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T21:07:34.529+0000) > > Even if he did exactly what you said, there's no proof he was trolling so there's no evidence for punishment. Off-meta picks are allowed by riot, they explicitly say so. > > What everyone is upset about is that they make exceptions for high-elo players. > > If I sat at fountain, afk'd, and reported somebody who was earnestly playing the game with an off-meta strat, I would get punished, not them. > > Why's this so hard to understand? > > The fact that pro players have come forth to defend this only proves our point even more. No shit, its an annoying strat to have to play with but that doesn't mean the rules should be different for high rank players. It's simply unfair. > > If this is allowed, IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED AT ALL RANKS. Meaning: NO OFF-META STRATS. No matter if they work or not. LOL What is it you are having such a hard time understanding? Riot banned the guy because he was griefing, not because he was playing off meta. That´s why people say he deserves the ban, not because he wanted to play Teemo in high elo away from toplane.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T12:56:19.062+0000) > > LOL > > What is it you are having such a hard time understanding? Riot banned the guy because he was griefing, not because he was playing off meta. > > > That´s why people say he deserves the ban, not because he wanted to play Teemo in high elo away from toplane. Ok, where's the proof he was griefing? ............................ oh, right. You don't have any.
Rioter Comments
Zed genius (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I Like Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-18T20:40:34.685+0000) > > This is in no way a bad player, if you dont remember some time not that long ago another support player "AdellaideSkyheart" had a very similar thing happen to him, and just like this the community backed him to the fullest they could and yet somehow people just like you went off saying how hes a mennace and trolling... if you got a +80% win rate trolling, why kids in gold tryharding every ranked game hardstuck then? This man "greifed" his way to grandmaster, thats fking impressive no matter how you look at it. He played other champs to get to master and he started trolling with teemo after he got there
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-06-18T20:50:49.008+0000) > > He played other champs to get to master and he started trolling with teemo after he got there Even if he did exactly what you said, there's no proof he was trolling so there's no evidence for punishment. Off-meta picks are allowed by riot, they explicitly say so. What everyone is upset about is that they make exceptions for high-elo players. If I sat at fountain, afk'd, and reported somebody who was earnestly playing the game with an off-meta strat, I would get punished, not them. Why's this so hard to understand? The fact that pro players have come forth to defend this only proves our point even more. No shit, its an annoying strat to have to play with but that doesn't mean the rules should be different for high rank players. It's simply unfair. If this is allowed, IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED AT ALL RANKS. Meaning: NO OFF-META STRATS. No matter if they work or not.
Salron (NA)
: Jensen, Doublelift, ICU and Forest (Challenger players weigh in on NB3 vs Teemo "support"
You and all the high elo players are completely missing the point. The rules are apparently different for high elo players. Whenever I got some "off meta" player who was either "trying" or clearly trolling, I, as a low elo player, do not get the advantage of sitting at fountain and reporting them... because the opposite effect happens. Riot cearly only understands these troll picks when they're affecting high elo players. So a NEW STANDARD should be set after this. If I get some guy in my game playing completely off the rails, I, and every single player in league, should now be allowed to afk at fountain and report, not get punished for being afk, and successfully have that reported player banned. I don't think the majority of players would disagree with the aggravation that would stem from playing with someone like that and many would even do exactly what NB did, BUT WE CANT. We can't because we would get punished. We know that because that's been riots stance on this shit for years. Now, we see that if you know people and are tight with riots little boys club (yeah, I went there. Bunch of sexist kids who change the rules to suit themselves) then you're in the clear. BTW how are those sexual harassment cases going over there at riot?
Chronabis (EUNE)
: @ Riot about Aatrox
I honestly hope they bring back the old Aatrox... then nerf him to fair standards and watch as all his "mains" drop him for some other aa champ to where like five people still play him. So many people just want some right click op b/s and the majority of them were "aatrox mains"
SSJTribe (NA)
: "Overloaded" just means they have too much in their kit, it has nothing to do with balance or winrates. Yasuo also sits at around 46-47% winrate but you'll be hard-pressed to find someone that doesn't think he's overloaded.
> [{quoted}](name=SSJTribe,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=WbXWzuzY,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-03-21T00:21:01.086+0000) > > "Overloaded" just means they have too much in their kit, it has nothing to do with balance or winrates. Yasuo also sits at around 46-47% winrate but you'll be hard-pressed to find someone that doesn't think he's overloaded. So riven is overloaded too then? I mean name a bunch of champions who are not overloaded. And what is the negative effect of being overloaded? Are you complaining that his kit isn't fun to play against? Also, are you saying Aatrox is like Yasuo? XD Plus, isn't "overloaded" just an opinion or perhaps just an "overloaded" term for champions in contrast with auto-attack based champs with limited skill shots? Why can't I say his former kit was underloaded?
Rustypug (NA)
: i prefer the new aatrox cuz of his lore they just overloaded the fuck out of his kit
> [{quoted}](name=Rustypug,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=WbXWzuzY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-20T16:18:27.834+0000) > > i prefer the new aatrox cuz of his lore they just overloaded the fuck out of his kit Not even overloaded. No more than like any AD melee caster in the game. His winrates reflect that and have reflected that since he's been at 46% winrate and below for a long time now
: Nah, he was awful and impossible to balance because of his heal gimmick.
> [{quoted}](name=Snake of Avarice,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=WbXWzuzY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-20T16:02:01.280+0000) > > Nah, he was awful and impossible to balance because of his heal gimmick. AAGREEEEEED People only started to play him because he had overloaded stats near the end. Also the main reason why those Aatrox "mains" where so salty. They thought they had their low-key freelo train ticket for life. in the end, the joke was kinda on them. Riot already knew how strong he was and the fact that the majority of top laners _still_ didn't want to touch his generic, boring kit was enough for a rework. Some people don't care if a kit is fun or not, they just want them free deeps and wins. In fact, the simpler / the less effort required the better! It's just a good thing that those players are not a majority, only a majority on boards.
DeltaDan (EUW)
: The best rework riot have ever done
Since I mostly play re-released champs I have to say they've done a pretty decent job on most of them. {{champion:14}} is my all time favorite. He's fairly simple yet takes some time to master. That ult isnt just tricky to maneuver, its tricky to time, and can be difficult to know when and when not to use it. His E is also super cool, inventive and effective. {{champion:78}} People will still grimace at even the thought of poppy since she was pretty over-tuned when she was re-released (I'll still never forget making a post about how strong she was right after release and got downvoted to hell... time wills out) but she is still a super fun champion to play and has plenty of parameters to balance, not just with numbers. Her ult is unique and fun and she takes time to understand but has counterplay. {{champion:266}} IDC how much heat I'll take or continue to take for supporting this rework. I was an OG aatrox player since his initial release and I never quite felt like he accessed Riots true potential for a sword-wielding blood demon. His original kit was kinda bland and he never really saw any real play until he was overloaded and the few who took advantage of that, I find, are the ones who are most upset about his change. Anyway, his kit is actually pretty fun and there is plenty of room for error when dueling or in teamfights. Sadly, pros will always find a way to maximize a champions potential and I've since calmed down about his changes to his E. Hell, even if they had to change more I'd still be happy with his rework as a whole. It was exactly what I'd hoped for. {{champion:83}} I mean, unique, fun, simple yet has room for mastrey; Yorick has it all. He's kept his bulky, non-flashy style but gained even more map presence. He's a solid pick for top since he's difficult to counterpick. His E is really inventive and works so well with his theme and playstyle. {{champion:6}} Completely hit the nail on the head with his rework. That ult is superb. He's always been a pretty strong champ but again, pros will truly capitalize on the extent of any given champions strengths. Thankfully, urgot has lots of ways he can be fine-tuned.
: So Urgot got his only defensive tool gutted, meanwhile...
: Can we change the "None" ban option to "Pass" please?
Rioter Comments
SirEnds (NA)
: About Aatrox's Change in Patch 9.3 and what my Opinion is on it
my baby boy... my beautiful baby boy... what have they done to you?
: "I want ADC to be less shitty to play"
"imagine not paying attention to high elo play lmao" pretty sure nobody gives a fuck about your low-elo complaints about ADC's. ADC's are still picked in pro play. Conversation over.
: good deserves to be in the gutter for the entirety of s9 same as akali
This is why this game will forever be SHIT People like you who want to balance out of emotions rather than rationality.
: winrates don't mean shit otherwise akali wouldn't being nerfed either. you gotta look at playrates and banrates too. and the how oppressive a champ can be to face. and sorry to burst your bubble but aatrox is not fun at all to face. not mid not top not anywhere. you can cry all you want but your champ belongs in the gutter.
How is he oppressive when he's not getting more wins than riven? Does this make riven the most oppressive? What functionality does being "oppressive" offer if not to win you the game? Winrates mean alot... But lets also look at hose playrates. Riven is played three times as much as Aatrox... OH!? Lets look at DARIUS. Check out that banrate kid. 3% and a 4% PLAYRATE. Gut this dude too then. Higher playrate, higher winrate, more damage on average than Aatrox. hows that? You're reasoning sucks.
HàrrowR (EUW)
: ADC players: We don't like getting one shotted in 0.2 seconds, Boards:
Almsot every single time it was rengar. This seems more like a rengar rage thread than anything. Maybe rengar needs nerfs. Why make this an adc thread? What is it about whats happening that is upsetting you besides an all-in from a fed rengar, maybe an elise? Maybe ask propose nerfs for some problematic assassins. Buffing all adc's wont even solve the problems you're seeing above. So the issue is a few over-the-top assassins. "you are overly reliant on your support through out the game and later you are completely reliant on your team to peel for you" this is the actual description of most adc's as they are meant to be played. Solo queue adc's have always been the adc's that don't rely much on the team {{champion:67}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:236}}. You want your cake and to eat it too. You want a team reliant role to not be team-reliant. The original idea of an ADC was to carry the team by eliminating the frontline (tanks) and basically their entire team. The trade-off is their vulnerability and low survivability. But you dont want low survivability, you want to shoot straight into wiping the entire enemy team without any help. Probably because thats what a lot of ADC mains of recent seasons have gotten used to. They want to farm and one-shot everyone while not caring about positioning or threats. Again, maybe rengar is an issue. This doesn't mean adc's are not performing the way they should in general. I've mained sion a whole whole lot, even before his popularity last season. Sion is extremely team reliant. Should I ask riot to stop making him so team reliant and just give him buffs so that he can yolo-queu like fiora, darius, garen?
Laura ß (NA)
: When you reach diamond rank and above, games balance around those ranks below that riot doesn't give 2 cents
Nah thats not a real answer. The real answer is he never has a weak stage of the game. Actually, the really real answer is his "weak" stage of the game is only weak by comparison to him being fed but he's not really weak at all even during that time. He's just not unstoppable. So when people say he has a weak stage of the game, they just mean during the times he's not fed out of his mind. His damage and tankiness is actually always good at any stage of the game.
Moody P (NA)
: assuming you are good at the game Darius falls off quite hard by the time grouping occurs unless he's fed. even then most people who "lose" lane to him can easily set him up to be ganked and almost universally hard outscale him in terms of contribution anyway
oh i see. So, assuming you're good at the game, yasuo isn't very strong when he isn't fed either. Or any champion for that matter. Its the all-purpose explanation for why a champion might not be strong at every stage of the game. If you're good enough, they might feel like they're weak if they're not fed.
Rioter Comments
: kill participation doesn't matter. i agree, but elo hell does exist. especially when your at the mercy of people who refuse to push for towers.
In many ways that just saying there's no team participation. Udyr can just run around the map, afk farm, burst down objectives, and split push to victory. Split pushing has (imo) been a sleazy tactic used by smurfs time and time again. It's not incredibly difficult, doesn't require team participation, and heavily relies on the enemy team's lack of game knowledge to prevent it.
BigFBear (EUW)
: Well I think if Elo hell exists or doesnt exists has to do with what champion you play. I think Udyr is quite an exception here. If you play a champion who is focused on teammates and (team) fights, Elo hell does exists for sure. Because if your team sucks your champ can't just go deleting all the towers alone like Udyr. But if you have a strong splitpusher you can just ignore your feeding team and go for the towers and end the game alone. I recently had a game like that in Plat where our team was feeding and losing like hell and our top Smurf Fiora just did that: pushing the lanes and killing the towers alone. After we had first Inhibitor it became easier. After the second Inhib it was almost won. If she had fought with us, we would have lost the game.
Precisely. The champion always matter. The only ones climbing super easy out of "elo hell" are the selfish kind (not in a negative connotation here). Champions who can afk farm, those who can splitpush like udyr and all the champs who simply do no need a team to be successful. That also means team-wipers like vayne who only need 1 or 2 kills early on until they become unbeatable. This "team game" is actually far from team play.
: If you aren't able to kill a Vayne as a fed Yi, you wouldn't have become a fed Yi in the first place. Either your connection or your skills would be too bad to get to the point of being fed as Yi. Also, I'm pretty sure most of my upvotes came from that other point of mine.
Yeah neither of your points were good, so my statement stands. Read what I said. Your comparison is garbo. You know its garbo as well as anyone who plays games. It just nearly sounds correct if not for the fact its completely garbo. People leave competitive games for other competitive games whether or not they are in the exact same genre. It happens all the time. And the proof is there. We had a fed yi, he was actually very decent. He literally could not see vayne half the time and the other half he was cc'd/knockedback. Vayne 2 shot everyone. Spare me your insufferable attempt at protecting a broken adc because you're an adc main along with everyone who's upvoted you.
Dynikus (NA)
: > I was ahead, winning my lane and doing just fine. which is irrelevant unless you were laning against vayne. This is a team game, and you were playing in the lane that has the least effect on the rest of the map. Looking at the game, while your overall team was ahead in gold, vayne had a 2000-5000 gold lead over you, and had by far the most gold in the game. Vayne made it through her weak early game, got some items, then popped off mid game and hard carried. I actually really didn't want the vayne buff to go through. It was an unnecessary buff that didn't really do much, but I knew people were going to overreact to it and it would result in her being permabanned.
Oh its a team game? I couldn't tell with Vayne one-shotting our entire team. Hmm. You mean our team was working as a team and earned way more gold as a team than their team but their ONE (not broken remember) champion/player was able to beat all of us. You make a lot of sense. Surely it has nothing to do with a recent buff or the champion simply being overtuned, or again, that you're an adc main and want to keep your winstreak lol. Aye good for you man enjoy. Keep up the good damage control.
Dynikus (NA)
: >I haven't played this game in about a year or so So what you're saying is someone who's rusty at the game got rekt by a very fed vayne, and because of that the champions is op? Her q buff didn't actually really do that much in all honesty. You likely would have gotten destroyed that game regardless of if her q were buffed or not.
If only you read my post. I was ahead, winning my lane and doing just fine. It couldn't be the fact that a buff was given to a toxic champ. Nahh. that couldn't be it. Also couldnt be defending a toxic adc because you're an adc main.. nahhh that would make too much sense. Like 20 negative posts last week about that buff I was almost sure Riot was going to not include it... seems they only want ADC's in this game.
: "Most toxic bullshit in the game" lmao okay. Yeah, the super glass cannon that a full tank Soraka could one-shot is the most toxic bullshit. Not any number of champions who can kill you without you getting to do shit against it *at all*, the champion who hasn't been relevant for basically the entire season is the toxic one. Also, why would you leave League for Fortnite? I could get leaving it for DotA, since it's the same genre, but Battle Royale shooters are a vastly different genre from a MOBA. You wouldn't leave League for Fortnite any more than you'd stop going to your dentist to start going to a chiropractor.
Im glad you said that and glad you got upvoted. J It just proves that this games own community shits on itself lol Your "soraka could one-shot" but a fed yi cant. You're so full of shit i can't even Leave lol for fortenite? IDK i guess that's so unheard of and never happens ever.......................... you have it all figured out. Maybe its because its nothing like leaving your dentist for a chiropractor and more like leaving one competitive/engulfing game for another. No deep analysis needed.
GreyfellD (EUW)
: League has become Overwatch
Overwatch is more fun even though I dont have a character im super fond of. Its still more fun than this shitshow.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDevice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X53OfTWr,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2018-12-02T01:13:37.574+0000) > > "Diana ALSO build near full tank!" > {{item:3135}} {{item:1058}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3136}} is near full tank? > > This is why this game will die and get nowhere near to balanced. It's because of the community bias and LIESS. Lies like this. This isn't a "near full tank" build. Nowhere near it. Stop lying and maybe riot will have a community they can listen to. Except that's not what Diana had? Diana had {{item:3157}} Abyssal Sceptre {{item:3111}} {{item:1057}} {{item:1031}} Pretty sure you're looking at Rumble...... who was on Varus' Team.
You're right I was looking at the wrong one. Still, you conveniently exclude Abyssal Scepter which added about 70 ap and reduced enemy magic resist.
: "But everyone who thinks the game used to be about strategy and not about burst is wrong. It's all just nostalgia. Damage creep isn't real". Monkeys.
"Yeah! Lets go back to the era when a Varus can eat three ults and auto attack everyone to death while being a mile away from the rest of his team!" - ADC Main
: 1) You do realize the Varus rushed a {{item:3080}} , built a {{item:3102}} ? He was taking a TON of damage. He was just life stealing out of it...... like all Season 4-5 meta builds did. 2) Zyra built full friggin Vision. She didn't have a single damage item! 3) Diana ALSO build near full tank! If they were using today's builds in Season 3, the result would pretty much be the same as now: Split second deletions. Instead, in Season 5, all adcs got on the Crit/Lethality Bandwagon, and the game evolved into Yolo skirmishes. It's not the items. It's the PEOPLE.
"Diana ALSO build near full tank!" {{item:3135}} {{item:1058}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3136}} is near full tank? This is why this game will die and get nowhere near to balanced. It's because of the community bias and LIESS. Lies like this. This isn't a "near full tank" build. Nowhere near it. Stop lying and maybe riot will have a community they can listen to.
: It's amazing how different this game used to be in S3
Oh sure this would be great........... if you are an adc main. lol ADC's are like the trumpsters "make League great again" when 'great' meant adc's were allowed to get away with murder. Yeah if I were an adc main I'd love to have times when a Diana, a Malphite, and a Lee can jump on top of me and I still live with an immobile champ and zero sup required.
: Another worlds day another Kai'sa Aatrox, Urgot, Xayah, , tahm fiesta
literally used to be {{champion:122}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:150}} top lane every single worlds SEASON. not just one season, every worlds. Now the first time its different and people are upset XD. i dont get his community.
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Antenora (EUW)
: Because most of the top laners I get put with end up going 0/3 within the first 5-10 minutes because they push like a bunch of apes.
I don't condone anyone giong 0/3 in the first 5 min of the game, but usually its not on purpose and so you shouldn't just ignore that player. It's like if the jg died a couple times, should the rest of the team not ever help them secure drag etc? No, its a team game. In fact, if your top laner is getting beat, its even more reason to help them and keep them from tilting (if even the only reason).
: Good junglers don't help losing lanes alone. Instead they should only gank losing lanes with additional teammates, and only if the enemy team can't respond.
More bad information imo. Ignoring a losing lane leaves that lane at higher risk of tilting or even leaving the game entirely. Players play better knowing their team is including them. ....and people wonder why there are so many afkers and so much toxicity.
Zetto (NA)
: Junglers tend to ignore top lane due to the fact that: 1: Top has less carry potential than mid/bot 2: bot lane generally serves as a better source of gold due to the fact that there are 2 champions to kill instead of 1 3: the only objective on topside is Rift herald, which isn't a concern for the first 10 minutes of the game, and is soloable by most junglers. Generally when it comes to rift herald it's more useful to have your laner stay in lane to try and keep the enemy top in lane. As a jungler top is really only useful as a more low-risk/low-reward source of gold, tbh.
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