: Me and 200 million other US voters had their personal information leaked.
To give people an idea on how unsecured this shit was http://i.imgur.com/MuMR4uh.jpg[/img]
: You can't just allow terrorists to run rampant in your city and then act shocked and appalled when people start retaliating with more terrorism. You can't look at this in a vacuum and ignore the endless stream of Muslim terror attacks that lead up to it. It was inevitable that sooner or later the dam would break.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=UmuJLLkL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-06-19T19:39:00.714+0000) > > You can't just allow terrorists to run rampant in your city and then act shocked and appalled when people start retaliating with more terrorism. You can't look at this in a vacuum and ignore the endless stream of Muslim terror attacks that lead up to it. > > It was inevitable that sooner or later the dam would break. You sound as stupid as the people who say we deserve terrorism because we invaded the middle east.
: Me and 200 million other US voters had their personal information leaked.
: We really shouldn't be divided on such a topic about who we support and why. We need to be together on this when its clearly not okay, especially in this day and age where opinions apparently matter. Right, Left, Center, Undecided, I'm sure we can all agree leaks of this nature are not alright.
> [{quoted}](name=King Asgore,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-06-20T07:07:02.521+0000) > > We really shouldn't be divided on such a topic about who we support and why. We need to be together on this when its clearly not okay, especially in this day and age where opinions apparently matter. > > Right, Left, Center, Undecided, I'm sure we can all agree leaks of this nature are not alright. Seriously this. This is a 100% clear cut case of personal data being hideously mismanaged and some people are managing to turn this into left vs right out of nowhere. What the fuck.
Zheta777 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:54:53.613+0000) > > I don't give a shit what the left thinks. The fact that you do, enough so that you consider things like this fine out of spite, is really telling of what kind of person you are. I care what both the left and the right think. The problem with you is that you only care what the right thinks Either punish both the left and right, or punish neither of them. You can't have your cake and eat it too
> [{quoted}](name=Zheta777,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:58:52.171+0000) > > I care what both the left and the right think. The problem with you is that you only care what the right thinks > > Either punish both the left and right, or punish neither of them. You can't have your cake and eat it too ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? You do realize I'm one of the people who voted Trump right? You do realize I'm one of the people who called for Hillary to go to prison right?
: Me and 200 million other US voters had their personal information leaked.
Seriously this isn't about left vs right. This is about the personal information of 200 million registered voters from both sides being leaked by sheer incompetence. Where in the actual fuck are people pulling left vs right from in this topic?
Zheta777 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:48:19.520+0000) > > Bad post is bad post. This is the kind of divisive shit I've been talking about. 200 million people had their private info leaked simply because they registered to vote and the data firm is incompetent, but to people like you it becomes ok because it happens to negatively effect people you disagree with. nice slippery slope fallacy. The left didn't care about the leaks but now they do? The amount of leaked data does not matter leaked data is leaked data
> [{quoted}](name=Zheta777,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:53:14.526+0000) > > nice slippery slope fallacy. The left didn't care about the leaks but now they do? The amount of leaked data does not matter > > leaked data is leaked data I don't give a shit what the left thinks. The fact that you do, enough so that you consider things like this fine out of spite, is really telling of what kind of person you are.
Zheta777 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a00010000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:40:19.423+0000) > > ??? > > What are you even talking about? This information is on every registered voter, not just democrats. If anything the republican registered voters probably had more information on them leaked since this was a GOP data firm. leaked data is leaked data
> [{quoted}](name=Zheta777,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:44:19.503+0000) > > leaked data is leaked data Bad post is bad post. This is the kind of divisive shit I've been talking about. 200 million people had their private info leaked simply because they registered to vote and the data firm is incompetent, but to people like you it becomes ok because it happens to negatively effect people you disagree with.
: > [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:09:05.433+0000) > > In what sense? Keeping you from a job because you don't believe in abortion or whatever? I think that's quite a stretch for most of the population. Bro there was people shot at a softball game because they were republican. I don't think employment discrimination based on political beliefs is out of the question. Plus a lot of people don't want other people to so easily find all this info on them in general.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000002,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:42:02.618+0000) > > I'm a realist. If you're that concerned about it i'd recommend buying a firearm legally. Problem solved. First of all I'm concerned about the principle of this matter. People shouldn't have to worry about all this information on them getting leaked just because they registered to vote. They didn't even take the most basic fucking precautions of having a password for any of the data. Also "just get a gun lol" implies that violence is the only concern of having this kind of private info leaked.
Zheta777 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:27:21.133+0000) > > Yeah but Hillary's emails. you have a very good point. Since Hillary got away scot-free the precedent has been set so that there's no reason why they can't get away with the leaks either oh well, the left didn't think Hillary's leaks were a big deal so now they get a taste of their own medicine
> [{quoted}](name=Zheta777,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:36:10.056+0000) > > you have a very good point. Since Hillary got away scot-free the precedent has been set so that there's no reason why they can't get away with the leaks either > > oh well, the left didn't think Hillary's leaks were a big deal so now they get a taste of their own medicine ??? What are you even talking about? This information is on every registered voter, not just democrats. If anything the republican registered voters probably had more information on them leaked since this was a GOP data firm.
: > [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:09:05.433+0000) > > In what sense? Keeping you from a job because you don't believe in abortion or whatever? I think that's quite a stretch for most of the population. Bro there was people shot at a softball game because they were republican. I don't think employment discrimination based on political beliefs is out of the question. Plus a lot of people don't want other people to so easily find all this info on them in general.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:24:26.875+0000) > > You're missing the point my dude. Yes it's possible. Lot's of things are possible. An employer can discriminate against you because they don't like your hair or the way you talk, i'm sure it happens. I don't think you should be worrying about someone killing you because now they found out your political views lol. As i said for most people it would be pretty obvious just by looking at them anyways. All your friends get a FB notification when it's your birthday too xD Ok seriously, 200 million people had intimate political information leaked alongside their names and addresses in this politically divisive environment. Honestly why are you so defensive about this? Why are you so eager to imply people shouldn't be concerned about leaks like this with all the shit going on in this country?
: Me and 200 million other US voters had their personal information leaked.
Whoever has the downvote alts you should probably space out the +5 downvotes by more than 1 second so it isn't painfully obvious.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:57:10.401+0000) > > Registered voters. 130~ million out of that 200 million voted. Nice shitpost though. 200 million people did not vote in the 2016 primary, your post is literally stating that there was 200 million voters in the us. Get out of here already. Just cause someones registered to vote does not make them a voter.
> [{quoted}](name=CrisisEchoes,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:22:21.826+0000) > > 200 million people did not vote in the 2016 primary, your post is literally stating that there was 200 million voters in the us. Get out of here already. Just cause someones registered to vote does not make them a voter. I don't know if you noticed but your semantics argument didn't make leaking 200 million people's private info ok.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:05:57.044+0000) > > Are we seriously pretending discrimination based on politics doesn't exist right now? In what sense? Keeping you from a job because you don't believe in abortion or whatever? I think that's quite a stretch for most of the population and something you shouldn't let keep you up at night.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:09:05.433+0000) > > In what sense? Keeping you from a job because you don't believe in abortion or whatever? I think that's quite a stretch for most of the population. Bro there was people shot at a softball game because they were republican. I don't think employment discrimination based on political beliefs is out of the question. Plus a lot of people don't want other people to so easily find all this info on them in general.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:55:27.317+0000) > > That's certainly never stopped anyone. You'd have to prove they didn't hire you for that reason. If you were going to be discriminated against while looking for a job it would probably be because of something more obvious to the employer.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-06-20T06:03:13.594+0000) > > If you were going to be discriminated against while looking for a job it would probably be because of something more obvious to the employer. Are we seriously pretending discrimination based on politics doesn't exist right now?
: 200 million voters... in a population of 321 million total people in the usa. nice shitpost. only 139 million people voted so thats incredible that 200 million got taken.
> [{quoted}](name=CrisisEchoes,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:53:31.812+0000) > > 200 million voters... in a population of 321 million total people in the usa. nice shitpost Registered voters. 130~ million out of that 200 million voted. Nice shitpost though.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:46:43.303+0000) > > Ok, how about employers looking up this information and not hiring you because they don't like your political views? If they go through that trouble to do that and not hire me because of it then i probably wouldn't want to work for them anyways. Employers want good workers, your political views are irrelevant to them. That would also be illegal for them to do that.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:48:37.591+0000) > > That would also be illegal. That's certainly never stopped anyone. You'd have to prove they didn't hire you for that reason.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:46:43.303+0000) > > Ok, how about employers looking up this information and not hiring you because they don't like your political views? If they go through that trouble to do that and not hire me because of it then i probably wouldn't want to work for them anyways. Employers want good workers, your political views are irrelevant to them. That would also be illegal for them to do that.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:48:37.591+0000) > > If they go through that trouble to do that and not hire me because of it then i probably wouldn't want to work for them anyways. I think you're forgetting you aren't the only person on the planet, and that there are plenty of people who don't want shit like this to be public knowledge. And "i probably wouldn't want to work for them anyways." doesn't exactly apply to people who live in places where work opportunities aren't easy to come by.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:43:39.719+0000) > > I'm sure nobody wants some dipshit kid to find your name, phone number, and address and swat you because you are pro-life or something. I think most people have more to worry about than being hand picked out of 200M people to be swatted randomly. Would anyone even do that? You have a better chance getting hit by a bus tomorrow.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:45:17.270+0000) > > I think most people have more to worry about than being hand picked out of 200M people to be swatted randomly. You have a better chance getting hit by a bus tomorrow. Ok, how about employers looking up this information and not hiring you because they don't like your political views?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:37:42.873+0000) > > This is something new. It has never been as easy as it has suddenly become for anyone to find any voters name and know the intimate details of their political beliefs. This is definitely not an ok thing with how divisive politics has become. Tbh you can figure it out most of the time just by looking at the person lmao who cares "I wonder who the 300 lb land whale with blue hair voted for and its stance on abortion is"
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:41:37.268+0000) > > Tbh you can figure it out most of the time just by looking at the person lmao who cares I'm sure nobody wants some dipshit kid to find your name, phone number, and address and swat you because you are pro-life or something. Why the fuck are you even defending this though? I don't get it.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:30:08.307+0000) > > most people already know this kind of stuff anyways or can find it easily lol. this its nothing new
> [{quoted}](name=Arioch,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:31:52.262+0000) > > this > > its nothing new This is something new. It has never been as easy as it has suddenly become for anyone to find any voters name and know the intimate details of their political beliefs. This is definitely not an ok thing with how divisive politics has become.
: most people already know this kind of stuff anyways or can find it easily lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:30:08.307+0000) > > most people already know this kind of stuff anyways or can find it easily lol. . >The data leak contains a wealth of personal information on roughly 61 percent of the US population. Along with home addresses, birthdates, and phone numbers, the records include advanced sentiment analyses used by political groups to predict where individual voters fall on hot-button issues such as gun ownership, stem cell research, and the right to abortion, as well as suspected religious affiliation and ethnicity.
: Me and 200 million other US voters had their personal information leaked.
> [{quoted}](name=BLU Medic,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=owHOvbAA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-20T05:28:41.483+0000) > > What the actual fuck? http://i.imgur.com/vkXJdao.gif[/img]
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: My early accsess code was invalid when I tried to enter it and customer support is only 9-AM to 8-PM pacific.. and I work Evening shifts Alaskan... http://media3.giphy.com/media/MDw2JkJofdmZq/giphy.gif 269 in queue for customer support tho.
> [{quoted}](name=Chucklemeowdoge,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=EAgQIA41,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-16T17:03:10.408+0000) > > My early accsess code was invalid when I tried to enter it and customer support is only 9-AM to 8-PM pacific.. and I work Evening shifts Alaskan... > > http://media3.giphy.com/media/MDw2JkJofdmZq/giphy.gif > > 269 in queue for customer support tho. I think I know what's wrong. What version of the game is your account under? The PC version and the Steam version are treated differently for some reason. If you bought the pre-order from their site it will only work if you have also bought the game from their site. If you are using the Steam version you have to buy the pre-order from Steam.
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: I get giving out a fine if you're cheating, especially if getting into professional play (diamond-challenger tier) but jail time seems a bit... over the top. But it's their country, their rules.
> [{quoted}](name=BLU Medic,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=QyjNPyEA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-15T19:23:45.193+0000) > > I get giving out a fine if you're cheating, especially if getting into professional play (diamond-challenger tier) but jail time seems a bit... over the top. > > But it's their country, their rules. The culture there is different. Competitive video games are literally serious business in Korea.
: Funny how the Russian collusion thing finally dies and all of a sudden a half dozen new things are being investigated. Is this what we get to look forward to? 4-8 years of spurious accusations that eat 6 months then die, and every policy Trump attempts to enact being dragged through every level of court? Is this what democrats want? A complete fucking waste of everyone's time?
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=JhEUTGOH,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-06-15T04:44:56.442+0000) > > Funny how the Russian collusion thing finally dies and all of a sudden a half dozen new things are being investigated. > > Is this what we get to look forward to? 4-8 years of spurious accusations that eat 6 months then die, and every policy Trump attempts to enact being dragged through every level of court? Is this what democrats want? A complete fucking waste of everyone's time? It seems like this is what Trump wants since he keeps causing this suspicion by constantly bogging down the investigations for no reason.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YBVrZ30e,comment-id=000c0001,timestamp=2017-06-15T02:10:39.483+0000) > > We got a professional victim over here. * Not saying the game shouldn't be released. * Not saying the game needs to be changed. * Actually totally fine with the concept. * Even ended on a joke to clear the mood. * Just not completely fucking oblivious to the zeitgeist. We literally already have games floating around the internet about using Trump as target practice or a punching bag. There are people who use this shit to cope, and it's not healthy. The game is fine, the way people are inevitably going to use it _is not_. If there is anything I would want changed, it would be that this came out at a better time. And that's not going to happen, so I won't ask. I mean fuck, I loved Bioshock Infinite, and it used the same angle of a pseudo-Christian cult. But it came out at a time when there wasn't a political shitstorm. These things don't exist in a vacuum. We've had two attacks by Bernie supporters in as many weeks, one of them deadly, the other against _fucking congressmen._ The last thing I want is people getting more ideas.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YBVrZ30e,comment-id=000c00010000,timestamp=2017-06-15T04:34:42.108+0000) > > * Not saying the game shouldn't be released. > > * Not saying the game needs to be changed. > > * Actually totally fine with the concept. > > * Even ended on a joke to clear the mood. > > * Just not completely fucking oblivious to the zeitgeist. > > We literally already have games floating around the internet about using Trump as target practice or a punching bag. There are people who use this shit to cope, and it's not healthy. The game is fine, the way people are inevitably going to use it _is not_. If there is anything I would want changed, it would be that this came out at a better time. And that's not going to happen, so I won't ask. > > I mean fuck, I loved Bioshock Infinite, and it used the same angle of a pseudo-Christian cult. But it came out at a time when there wasn't a political shitstorm. These things don't exist in a vacuum. We've had two attacks by Bernie supporters in as many weeks, one of them deadly, the other against _fucking congressmen._ The last thing I want is people getting more ideas. a fucking video game isn't going to cause people to go out and murder you dingus
: How we managed to make a conversation about the ethics of killing Nazis last this long is beyond me...
> [{quoted}](name=Arcus Diabolus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YBVrZ30e,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2017-06-15T02:37:35.201+0000) > > How we managed to make a conversation about the ethics of killing Nazis last this long is beyond me... Ethics about killing Nazis in a video game. typical right wing sjws
: On one hand, I am personally sick of the "Everyone I Don't Like Is Hitler" shit, and I can see how these games can become unhealthy wish-fulfillment for left-wing millennials who can't cope with reality. It's kind of the same reason why I'm not sure Far Cry 5 is a good idea, in a vacuum there's nothing inherently bad with the setting, but to have a game like that come out _right now_ is going to end up reinforcing bad stereotypes and giving buttfurious left-wingers a way to act out their revenge fantasy on "Trump voters." And yes, I get that these games are in development for years, but it's just unfortunate coincidence for such games to come out now. On the other hand, I'm just fucking triggered that some kid thinks Wolfenstein is a new IP. Also, inb4 locked because I posted something political.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YBVrZ30e,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2017-06-13T13:55:31.612+0000) > > On one hand, I am personally sick of the "Everyone I Don't Like Is Hitler" shit, and I can see how these games can become unhealthy wish-fulfillment for left-wing millennials who can't cope with reality. It's kind of the same reason why I'm not sure Far Cry 5 is a good idea, in a vacuum there's nothing inherently bad with the setting, but to have a game like that come out _right now_ is going to end up reinforcing bad stereotypes and giving buttfurious left-wingers a way to act out their revenge fantasy on "Trump voters." And yes, I get that these games are in development for years, but it's just unfortunate coincidence for such games to come out now. > > On the other hand, I'm just fucking triggered that some kid thinks Wolfenstein is a new IP. > > Also, inb4 locked because I posted something political. We got a professional victim over here.
: Trump is now under investigation
Don't worry guys Trump will fix this. He's gonna fire the guy in charge of this investigation. http://time.com/4815826/chris-ruddy-donald-trump-robert-mueller-fire/
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: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:15:52.367+0000) > > So your only defense for Trump is that he technically didn't stop the investigation, he only fired the guy who was in charge of it after he showed no intention of dropping Flynn's case, after straight up asking his cronies to find a reason to fire him. > > Well if you think that's trustworthy then who am I to argue. Democrats were hungry for Comey's head on a pike a few days before he got canned. Don't try and pretend that he was some kind of saint. The ones switching stance are the left.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:31:23.666+0000) > > Democrats were hungry for Comey's head on a pike a few days before he got canned. Don't try and pretend that he was some kind of saint. The ones switching stance are the left. I don't give a shit what Hillary shills think. What they think doesn't excuse what Trump did.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:18:01.114+0000) > > OK I am going to have to stop you right there because you keep saying this even though the president's actions completely contradict this. > > How is Trump wanting Flynn's investigation to be dropped "wanting answers"? And how are you 100% certain that Comey wasn't dragging things out trying to find something on Flynn? How are you 100% certain that Flynn is tied into the Russian probe?
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:23:55.912+0000) > > How are you 100% certain that Flynn is tied into the Russian probe? Gee it's almost as if that's the point of an investigation.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:19:12.870+0000) > > Comey said she did something wrong, but wasn't willing to completely defy Lynch. Comey said she did nothing wrong because if she had he would've you know, recommended charges.
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:21:31.094+0000) > > Comey said she did nothing wrong because if she had he would've you know, recommended charges. Which Lynch would have made not happen and then fired Comey.
: Except, Comey said she did nothing wrong despite showing that she did do something wrong so...
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:16:10.417+0000) > > Except, Comey said she did nothing wrong despite showing that she did do something wrong so... Comey said she did something wrong, but wasn't willing to completely defy Lynch.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:08:43.957+0000) > > and Trump is acting like Hillary by doing everything he can to make this investigation disappear "I'm going to fire this guy over the Russian probe job." This can be taken several ways, none of which are confirmed: - "Because I want to protect my own ass." - "Because I want answers and he's not getting progress as quickly as he could be." - "Because I feel he's not doing his job." In addition, Hillary would outright stop the investigation. **Firing Comey does not stop the investigation.** This has been said to you multiple times.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:13:10.522+0000) > > - "Because I want answers and he's not getting progress as quickly as he could be." OK I am going to have to stop you right there because you keep saying this even though the president's actions completely contradict this. How is Trump wanting Flynn's investigation to be dropped "wanting answers"?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-06-10T02:56:21.974+0000) > > Call me when Obama and Bush pardon someone who was being investigated for collusion with Russia. It wasn't even a pardon, you're nowhere near the bar you want to be at right now. If he wanted to actually impede the investigation he could've literally just stopped it himself. There's no "trying and failing." Sure feels like people are just now figuring out what presidential powers are this year. Good luck trying to push obstruction of justice when the precedent is the fucking iranian contraband scandal. Call me when you top that. Russian collusion narrative hasn't even taken baby steps in comparison.
> [{quoted}](name=Player Vehicle,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:08:50.507+0000) > > It wasn't even a pardon. If he wanted to actually impede the investigation he could've literally just stopped it himself. There's no "trying and failing." Sure feels like people are just now figuring out what presidential powers are this year. > > Good luck trying to push obstruction of justice when the precedent is the fucking iranian contraband scandal. So your only defense for Trump is that he technically didn't stop the investigation, he only fired the guy who was in charge of it after he showed no intention of dropping Flynn's case, after straight up asking his cronies to find a reason to fire him. Well if you think that's trustworthy then who am I to argue.
: Anything that is said contradictory to whatever Hillary says is often true. Therefore, Comey contradicting Hillary was very likely true when he made the address on her emails. Comey acting (exactly) like Hillary in an open trial does not contradict Hillary and therefore is a load of crock.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=YFYKFegZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:07:04.830+0000) > > Anything that is said contradictory to whatever Hillary says is often true. Therefore, Comey contradicting Hillary was very likely true when he made the address on her emails. > > Comey acting (exactly) like Hillary in an open trial does not contradict Hillary and therefore is a load of crock. and Trump is acting like Hillary by doing everything he can to make this investigation disappear
: By all means, keep up the bait threads. I'd love to see you go.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=uE2Uhsyn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-10T03:04:40.008+0000) > > By all means, keep up the bait threads. I'd love to see you go. These aren't bait threads. These are actual points.
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: 》Trump wanted Comey to stop investigating Flynn. 》So instead of just pardoning Flynn like every other president does when their administration is in trouble, he's going to do something else entirely that doesn't stop Flynn's investigation in any way. 》Actual presidential pardons under Obama and Bush weren't obstructions but this sure is! You're really just not even going to read Comey's statement at all then?
> [{quoted}](name=Player Vehicle,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-10T02:49:00.559+0000) > > 》Presidential pardons under Obama and Bush weren't obstructions but this sure is! Call me when Obama and Bush pardon someone who was being investigated for collusion with Russia.
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: It's insane how people are excusing Trump firing Comey after asking him to stop investigating Flynn
But for real people who excuse this are just as bad as Hillary shills who excused her emails and no amount of downvotes will make this any less true.
: Because Comey repeating Hillary quotes isn't similarly sketchy?
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qAm1N6g2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-10T01:40:10.870+0000) > > Because Comey repeating Hillary quotes isn't similarly sketchy? If sketchiness had a quantity I'd say that'd be a much lower amount of it than firing the guy in charge of investigating the guy you don't want to be investigated after asking said guy in charge of the investigation to stop investigating the investigated guy.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=hHPKXnej,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-06-09T22:35:53.935+0000) > > Maybe if republicans didn't make it illegal to sell the car in their states. If you're never going to back up your outlandish claims with a god damn citation, don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=hHPKXnej,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T00:03:02.811+0000) > > If you're never going to back up your outlandish claims with a god damn citation, don't expect anyone to take you seriously. ok here are a few https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/tesla-takes-fight-on-sales-ban-to-home-turf-of-detroit-three http://codes.findlaw.com/al/title-8-commercial-law-and-consumer-protection/al-code-sect-8-20-4.html https://www.ksl.com/?sid=40787647&nid=157&title=utah-car-dealers-weighing-in-on-tesla-court-fight http://www.cnbc.com/2014/03/11/new-jersey-bans-direct-auto-sales-tesla-stock-inches-lower.html http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1097489_tesla-wins-in-georgia-loses-in-west-virginia
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