: Also I will leave this here :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tY47trc7uY http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/middleeast/dubai-tower-fire/index.html {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} P.S. They didn't fall ;-). 2nd time that Dubai building caught fire :O
> [{quoted}](name=Naked Villager,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nfrPFNEc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-18T01:11:35.590+0000) > > Also I will leave this here :) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tY47trc7uY > > http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/middleeast/dubai-tower-fire/index.html > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} > > P.S. They didn't fall ;-). 2nd time that Dubai building caught fire :O That's because jet fuel wasn't involved. Fun fact: Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but it can make them soft enough to bend under the weight of a skyscraper.
: I think Zaun needs an overly emotional positivity hero
Rioter Comments
D3Venney (NA)
: people actually watch rick and morty (lol)
If you think people watch the show because they think it's smart then you are not very smart my dude.
: is it just me or does ekko have 0 punishment for making mistakes in lane?
This is what happens when you make a champion whose identity is literally being able to undo his mistakes.
: Some jobs cannot be automated without assuming the kind of silly handwaved scifi future tech that would make human labor obsolete in a good way. Things like design, research, teaching, art, law, medicine, communication, news, etc. Coincidentally, these also tend to be the kind of fields that people would chose to do over minimum wage labor jobs if they had the skillset required to do them.
> [{quoted}](name=A Sword Saint,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YQA6frup,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-08-13T13:40:45.572+0000) > > Some jobs cannot be automated without assuming the kind of silly handwaved scifi future tech that would make human labor obsolete in a good way. Things like design, research, teaching, art, law, medicine, communication, news, etc. > > Coincidentally, these also tend to be the kind of fields that people would chose to do over minimum wage labor jobs if they had the skillset required to do them. That's not the point though. I already addressed that some jobs can't be automated, but those jobs are going to become extremely scarce when they become the only options.
Destaice (NA)
: Embarrassing secrets you didn't know about popular posters
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GPHPRTtr,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-13T07:41:59.120+0000) > > TheLittlestLulu doesn't flush after using a public bathroon I actually have an obsessive compulsive need to flush any public toilet I use and I carry around latex gloves for this purpose.
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Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d000000010000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:18:47.532+0000) > Getting them to kill you isn't going to happen when they buy tier 2 boots Yeah you literally aren't reading. Crowd control means those boots aren't working and you can stand in cinder lol. I feel like I just wasted my time with a troll pretending to be debating XD
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d0000000100000001000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:21:57.001+0000) > > Yeah you literally aren't reading. Crowd control means those boots aren't working and you can stand in cinder lol. I feel like I just wasted my time with a troll pretending to be debating XD They could just buy mercurys. Not like they would really need to anyways since you're not gonna get spammable CC with no CDR or mana items, assuming you even have 5 people with potentially spammable CC>
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d0000000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:00:20.325+0000) > > How exactly do you get them to kill you when they can just walk away, when only one of them is needed to walk in and do virtually no damage to 5 people at once to stop caps? > > How exactly do you kill them when it gets to a point that it's no longer possible for 5 of you to kill one of them? "Ignore the caps and get one of your players to die by constantly rushing them and staying in the cinder damage, or if you see a full tank team with all bami's cinder don't just kill them over and over again and focus on caps while they're weak. If it's too late and you realize they're in the middle of denying you caps and are super tanky as cheese, send all 5 of your players after one person. Yes they'll use their gold difference and the fact you're overfocusing to cap and make up the difference, but you'll be able to spend the surplus gold they gave you or you'll eventually kill the person you put all this focus on." "If you're throwing 5 people at someone you have chain cc, they aren't going to be out of combat for warmogs and if they want to try and stop you they're throwing their other tanks damage at you, giving you what you want." YOU REPLIED TO BOTH OF THESE. You're literally ignoring everything and creating a circular argument. Everyone has posted these kinds of suggestions and more in the large thread, and another strategy is to watch for 5 tanks and 5 bamis early game and not kill the xerath. Even if it's limited there's counterplay that you're desperately trying to ignore just to get the "Literally impossible" label to stick which is just a lie. I'm not going to retype fucking every argument I made just because you are choosing to ignore it lol
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d00000001000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:04:23.879+0000) > > "Ignore the caps and get one of your players to die by constantly rushing them and staying in the cinder damage, or if you see a full tank team with all bami's cinder don't just kill them over and over again and focus on caps while they're weak. If it's too late and you realize they're in the middle of denying you caps and are super tanky as cheese, send all 5 of your players after one person. Yes they'll use their gold difference and the fact you're overfocusing to cap and make up the difference, but you'll be able to spend the surplus gold they gave you or you'll eventually kill the person you put all this focus on." > > "If you're throwing 5 people at someone you have chain cc, they aren't going to be out of combat for warmogs and if they want to try and stop you they're throwing their other tanks damage at you, giving you what you want." > > YOU REPLIED TO BOTH OF THESE. You're literally ignoring everything and creating a circular argument. Everyone has posted these kinds of suggestions and more in the large thread, and another strategy is to watch for 5 tanks and 5 bamis early game and not kill the xerath. Even if it's limited there's counterplay that you're desperately trying to ignore just to get the "Literally impossible" label to stick which is just a lie. I'm not going to retype fucking every argument I made just because you are choosing to ignore it lol And you're ignoring that any time one of them dies they just get tankier until you can't even kill them with 5 people. You're unlikely to have 5 people who all have CC that can be easily chained, and god forbid any of you use mana because you're going to be OOM 99% of them time with no items. Getting them to kill you isn't going to happen when they buy tier 2 boots and you have nothing. You're also ignoring that the majority of people playing Ascension have no idea this exploit exists. The amount of players who even visit the forums is a minority.
Thalía (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d0000000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:00:20.325+0000) > > How exactly do you get them to kill you when they can just walk away, when only one of them is needed to walk in and do virtually no damage to 5 people at once to stop caps? > > How exactly do you kill them when it gets to a point that it's no longer possible for 5 of you to kill one of them? That's the point where you can't win so you should surrender. It's very possible to get killed before that, and like I've pointed out a few times their entire strategy is dependent on you not stopping them from killing xerath.
> [{quoted}](name=Thalía,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d00000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T12:02:44.844+0000) > > That's the point where you can't win so you should surrender. It's very possible to get killed before that, and like I've pointed out a few times their entire strategy is dependent on you not stopping them from killing xerath. All of these depends on knowing that they are actually doing this. Also how would stopping them from kill Xerath solve anything? If your team ended up with the Xerath kill you'd still have the same problem. It's not like the buff is going to mean anything when you have no items. And that is besides the point. The point is when all is said and done they are making the game impossible to end without surrendering. It doesn't matter if "you should have saw it coming", the end result is the enemy team griefing you until you surrender.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d00000001000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:52:45.544+0000) > > Grats you killed one of them. Now he's just going to come back even tankier and you'll still be just as weak as before. Put in enough effort and eventually you won't even be able to outdamage their natural regen. Nice job ignoring the taking damage part The objective is you either kill them or they have to kill you, one of those things will happen and you'll gain an advantage. And I don't even disagree with you that this shouldn't be in the game, its an unintended strategy that's about to get removed. What I disagree with is that this was against the rules, which it wasn't since the players weren't inting, they were playing to win, and because of the fact there's counterplay it's not explicitly cheating. Shit like saying "gg ez" and how toxic the strategy is could be argued for a toxicity ban but trying to argue its an exploit on the grounds it's impossible to counterplay is just not true.
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:55:34.607+0000) > > Nice job ignoring the taking damage part > > The objective is you either kill them or they have to kill you, one of those things will happen and you'll gain an advantage. How exactly do you get them to kill you when they can just walk away, when only one of them is needed to walk in and do virtually no damage to 5 people at once to stop caps? How exactly do you kill them when it gets to a point that it's no longer possible for 5 of you to kill one of them?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:43:28.854+0000) > > Yeah dude it must be easy to stay in the cinder damage of someone with tier 2 boots when you can't even shop. If you're throwing 5 people at someone you have chain cc, they aren't going to be out of combat for warmogs and if they want to try and stop you they're throwing their other tanks damage at you, giving you what you want. I never said "easy" but you keep saying "literally no counterplay" over and over and over. I guess your argument is easier to make when you ignore the nuance of what people are actually saying in favor of claiming we all want people to cheat and be toxic lol
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d0000000100000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:47:03.299+0000) > > If you're throwing 5 people at someone you have chain cc, they aren't going to be out of combat for warmogs and if they want to try and stop you they're throwing their other tanks damage at you, giving you what you want. Grats you killed one of them. Now he's just going to come back even tankier and you'll still be just as weak as before. Put in enough effort and eventually you won't even be able to outdamage their natural regen.
: > [{quoted}](name=BLU Medic,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:36:09.828+0000) > > Was there a way to actually win though? As in, a way to win that doesn't take multiple hours? Ignore the caps and get one of your players to die by constantly rushing them and staying in the cinder damage, or if you see a full tank team with all bami's cinder don't just kill them over and over again and focus on caps while they're weak. If it's too late and you realize they're in the middle of denying you caps and are super tanky as cheese, send all 5 of your players after one person. Yes they'll use their gold difference and the fact you're overfocusing to cap and make up the difference, but you'll be able to spend the surplus gold they gave you or you'll eventually kill the person you put all this focus on. Is it stupid and takes a long time? Yes, though that counterplay exists which is why Riot didn't keep them banned for exploiting, its not a cheat that keeps the other team from winning its just an obnoxious and arguably toxic stall strategy which no one has seen before this patch. That's why they're taking down ascencion and fixing it, it's against the pacing of the mode. But Lulu keeps saying over and over and over again "Literally impossible to counterplay" which is just a lie
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d00000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:41:41.179+0000) > > Ignore the caps and get one of your players to die by constantly rushing them and staying in the cinder damage, or if you see a full tank team with all bami's cinder don't just kill them over and over again and focus on caps while they're weak. If it's too late and you realize they're in the middle of denying you caps and are super tanky as cheese, send all 5 of your players after one person. Yes they'll use their gold difference and the fact you're overfocusing to cap and make up the difference, but you'll be able to spend the surplus gold they gave you or you'll eventually kill the person you put all this focus on. > > Is it stupid and takes a long time? Yes, though that counterplay exists which is why Riot didn't keep them banned for exploiting, its not a cheat that keeps the other team from winning its just an obnoxious and arguably toxic stall strategy which no one has seen before this patch. That's why they're taking down ascencion and fixing it, it's against the pacing of the mode. But Lulu keeps saying over and over and over again "Literally impossible to counterplay" which is just a lie Yeah dude it must be easy to stay in the cinder damage of someone with tier 2 boots when you can't even shop.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ouroboro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000200000000000000020000000100000000000000000002,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:23:44.353+0000) > > Also idk if you've played other games with turtle strategies, but it is a very very common and age-old tactic to literally do nothing until your opponent kills themselves. > > Fighting games. Wait in the corner and then if your opponent presses a button, counter attack > > fps games, camp in a corner and if they walk past you, kill them > > they're not fun, and basically means unless your opponent fucks up, you lose to the timer or the game never ends. > > the fact that one worked in league means that it needs to be patched the same way as everything else Yeah well that shit shouldn't be allowed in a game that punishes you for leaving.
> [{quoted}](name=Thalía,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000000000000002000000010000000000000000000200010001,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:29:39.611+0000) > > Yes, so riot should change it. I don't think anyone disagrees on that point. > > The point is that banning people for playing the game just because the way they're winning is completely miserable is dumb. Ok can we please stop with this "they were just winning" meme? They were not just winning, they were forcing a scenario where neither side could possibly win and one team would have to surrender. It isn't dumb to ban people who hold matches hostage.
: So I find it interesting how LittlestLulu cherry picks the bad analogies and weak arguments instead of addressing anyone that points out that there is in fact counterplay to the strategy, it's just annoying/long counterplay.
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:32:43.887+0000) > > So I find it interesting how LittlestLulu cherry picks the bad analogies and weak arguments instead of addressing anyone that points out that there is in fact counterplay to the strategy, it's just annoying/long counterplay. Ok what is the counterplay my dude? Is it having the clairvoyance to know the enemy is going to do this exploit before it becomes impossible to stop, which would require not killing them at all?
DracoMTA (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:10:37.997+0000) > > Imagine you just wanted to play a quick game of Ascension and some team ended up pulling this on you. Now imagine that when it comes time to surrender people on your team decide they want to try to outlast the enemy team and you end up trapped in a match that is impossible to end without one side surrendering. Your only option is to wait indefinitely for someone to surrender or eat a leaver penalty. > > That sounds like straight up griefing to me. They played to win. They just used a battle of attrition and willpower. Of course they wasted people's time, to an extent beyond what is normal in a regular game. It's not like it made it impossible for either team to win. They just refused to outright take the initiative to win, and delayed for a very long time using the set rules of the game. If not surrendering a losing game and waiting 20 more minutes is griefing because you waste people's time, only then is this also griefing. While I agree that this shouldn't be possible as it ruins the gamemode, I donmt think the people smart enough to use this should be punished. There is no real advantage to doing this in ascension besides delaying a loss by 3 hours, hence forcing a surrender. You get some ip and a green word on your match history, and no mmr or lp to speak of.
> [{quoted}](name=DracoMTA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:30:02.729+0000) > > They played to win. > > They just used a battle of attrition and willpower. Of course they wasted people's time, to an extent beyond what is normal in a regular game. It's not like it made it impossible for either team to win. They just refused to outright take the initiative to win, and delayed for a very long time using the set rules of the game. > > If not surrendering a losing game and waiting 20 more minutes is griefing because you waste people's time, only then is this also griefing. > > While I agree that this shouldn't be possible as it ruins the gamemode, I donmt think the people smart enough to use this should be punished. There is no real advantage to doing this in ascension besides delaying a loss by 3 hours, hence forcing a surrender. You get some ip and a green word on your match history, and no mmr or lp to speak of. And they also get to hold the people who wanted to surrender hostage for 3 hours. They can eat a leaver penalty and still won't be able to play until the match is done.
Ouroboro (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000000000000002000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:16:50.874+0000) > > OP champions are not impossible to beat. > > This exploit is literally impossible to beat. Also idk if you've played other games with turtle strategies, but it is a very very common and age-old tactic to literally do nothing until your opponent kills themselves. Fighting games. Wait in the corner and then if your opponent presses a button, counter attack fps games, camp in a corner and if they walk past you, kill them they're not fun, and basically means unless your opponent fucks up, you lose to the timer or the game never ends. the fact that one worked in league means that it needs to be patched the same way as everything else
> [{quoted}](name=Ouroboro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000200000000000000020000000100000000000000000002,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:23:44.353+0000) > > Also idk if you've played other games with turtle strategies, but it is a very very common and age-old tactic to literally do nothing until your opponent kills themselves. > > Fighting games. Wait in the corner and then if your opponent presses a button, counter attack > > fps games, camp in a corner and if they walk past you, kill them > > they're not fun, and basically means unless your opponent fucks up, you lose to the timer or the game never ends. > > the fact that one worked in league means that it needs to be patched the same way as everything else Yeah well that shit shouldn't be allowed in a game that punishes you for leaving.
Ouroboro (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000200000000000000020000000100000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:11:47.241+0000) > > OP champions don't make the game impossible to end without surrendering. i mean, that's just a specific of the OP strat. OP things are supposed to make your day a bad day yeah? they just do it in different ways. OP champions make the game impossible by being unbeatable
> [{quoted}](name=Ouroboro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002000000000000000200000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:14:34.409+0000) > > i mean, that's just a specific of the OP strat. OP things are supposed to make your day a bad day yeah? they just do it in different ways. OP champions make the game impossible by being unbeatable OP champions are not impossible to beat. This exploit is literally impossible to beat.
Ouroboro (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Thalía,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002000000000000000200000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:07:15.358+0000) > > Except that this is a game not a car and nothing being done is against the rules. Should we start banning people who play champions that aren't fun to play against as well, now? this is definitely the perspective i'm with, OP champions aren't fun either, but they are legal and you don't ban the people playing them
> [{quoted}](name=Ouroboro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000000000000002000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:11:02.707+0000) > > this is definitely the perspective i'm with, OP champions aren't fun either, but they are legal you don't ban the people playing them OP champions don't make the game impossible to end without surrendering.
MysterQ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:00:51.838+0000) > > Sorry I don't recall ever saying Riot wasn't accountable. > > I seem to recall you claiming the guys who exploited the gamemode aren't also accountable for ruining these games for other players. > > I guess it's impossible to do wrong if it was possible because of Riot's code :^) You also like to ignore the question. Why is the weaker team who keeps poking them (stopping them from objective) ok to allow this game to go on forever?
> [{quoted}](name=MysterQ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000a00000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T11:04:45.629+0000) > > You also like to ignore the question. > > Why is the weaker team who keeps poking them (stopping them from objective) ok to allow this game to go on forever? The weaker team isn't stopping them from taking objectives because the stronger team isn't even taking the objectives to begin with. That's the whole point of the strategy, to make the game literally impossible to end without surrendering. The stronger team doesn't kill the weaker team so they are forced to stay weak.
: Is it really that hard to hold Riot accountable for their fuck up? Or is it literally impossible for Riot to ever neglect something?
> [{quoted}](name=Mika Jougasaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:56:38.051+0000) > > Is it really that hard to hold Riot accountable for their fuck up? Or is it literally impossible for Riot to ever neglect something? Sorry I don't recall ever saying Riot wasn't accountable. I seem to recall you claiming the guys who exploited the gamemode aren't also accountable for ruining these games for other players. I guess it's impossible to do wrong if it was possible because of Riot's code :^)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:39:36.882+0000) > > They made the game impossible to end without surrendering. I wish people would use common sense and not try to downplay that into simply "not playing the game as expected". And? That's still a strat they thought of that is not explicitly against the rules. > I'd bet good money you'd be singing a different tune if you ended up trapped in a match you literally could not end without surrendering but nobody on your team wanted to surrender. I wouldn't, I would just quit and submit a ticket if I got punished for it, now give me whatever you bet
> [{quoted}](name=Mika Jougasaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0007000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:43:23.394+0000) > > And? That's still a strat they thought of that is not explicitly against the rules. "Not explicitly against the rules" is an argument someone makes when they've abandoned common sense. There's a certain point when you should follow the spirit of the law and not the word of it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:34:44.992+0000) > > Ppl defended this attitude for the same reason Tyler1 has so many devoted fans that would rather kill their pets than having him banned from a game. > > The gaming community is full of frustrated ppl that only find fun in ruining othres' play time instead of creating a fun enviroment where playing the game is the main concern. They want to find ways to explit the system and get away with it. "people who don't play the game the way i expect them to they r bad trolls evil monsters n also big meanies {{item:3151}}"
> [{quoted}](name=Mika Jougasaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:36:31.998+0000) > > "people who don't play the game the way i expect them to they r bad trolls evil monsters n also big meanies {{item:3151}}" They made the game impossible to end without surrendering. I wish people would use common sense and not try to downplay that into simply "not playing the game as expected". I'd bet good money you'd be singing a different tune if you ended up trapped in a match you literally could not end without surrendering but nobody on your team wanted to surrender.
MysterQ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:21:58.588+0000) > > This analogy makes no sense. If I was talking about Riot mistakenly banning someone for crashing everyone's game with an item when that person didn't actually do it and nobody actually got crashed you'd have a point. > > It would be more like saying someone shouldn't be punished for stealing a car cause the owner left the keys in. It was dumb of the owner but the carjacker is still a scumbag who should be punished. But if the manufacturer created keys that were "glued" into the car. You better believe the manufacturer holds a lot of the blame too in fixing this public relation issue. In our analogy, the normal drivers are fine. The bad drivers are still meanies, but if there is some public announcement saying it is wrong. Then the government (heck when did they enter this) and the manufacturer hold responsibility as well. And after it is announced, sure you can maybe punish the meanies, but not in an overly excessive manner (although I don't think actual law would allow that, but in this case for like damaging property you punish via a different law).
> [{quoted}](name=MysterQ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000000000000002,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:28:21.860+0000) > > But if the manufacturer created keys that were "glued" into the car. > You better believe the manufacturer holds a lot of the blame too in fixing this public relation issue. If the manufacturer created keys that were "glued" into the car the carjacker would still be a criminal.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:24:14.134+0000) > > You can punish someone for abusing someone else's fuckups. You don't let a burglar go scott free because the home owner was dumb and left the door open. You can't compare intruding and stealing someone else's property, which is against the law, AGAINST THE RULES to trying a different game strat, which is perfectly ok.
> [{quoted}](name=Mika Jougasaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:27:29.560+0000) > > You can't compare intruding and stealing someone else's property, which is against the law, AGAINST THE RULES to trying a different game strat, which is perfectly ok. If people can say that Riot is liable for the shitty behavior of other players then I can compare being an asshole in game to stealing a car.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:21:58.588+0000) > > This analogy makes no sense. If I was talking about Riot mistakenly banning someone for crashing everyone's game with an item when that person didn't actually do it and nobody actually got crashed you'd have a point. > > It would be more like saying someone shouldn't be punished for stealing a car cause the owner left the keys in. It was dumb of the owner but the carjacker is still a scumbag who should be punished. you're saying that people should still be punished because of riot's faulty coding I'm saying that's dumb punishing players for a flaw riot overlooked/didn't correct
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:27:21.052+0000) > > you're saying that people should still be punished because of riot's faulty coding > > I'm saying that's dumb punishing players for a flaw riot overlooked/didn't correct No, I'm saying people should be punished for knowingly abusing a flaw Riot overlooked to make the game a living hell for other players.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:13:11.689+0000) > > because it was riot's fault that they designed the game mode so poorly that doing this strat was possible; so why should the people using the strat be punished for a mistake riot did? Exactly my thinking. You cannot punish someone else for your own fuck ups, that's just immature. Just make the enemy spawn accessible for next ascension and all will be fine.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:21:31.471+0000) > > Exactly my thinking. > You cannot punish someone else for your own fuck ups, that's just immature. > Just make the enemy spawn accessible for next ascension and all will be fine. You can punish someone for abusing someone else's fuckups. You don't let a burglar go scott free because the home owner was dumb and left the door open.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:15:33.264+0000) > > This is pretty poor logic honestly. Remember when certain items were poorly coded and people could use them to disconnect everyone from a match? I guess those people who abused that shouldn't be punished cause it's Riot's fault the items were broken. yes they shouldn't have riot should code better what if you got pulled over for going 90 in a 55 and got arrested for reckless driving, but it turned out that the radar detector was malfunctioning and you were actually going 55; but the cop didn't care. Would you want to get punished anyway?
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:17:42.811+0000) > > yes they shouldn't have > > riot should code better > > what if you got pulled over for going 90 in a 55 and got arrested for reckless driving, but it turned out that the radar detector was malfunctioning and you were actually going 55; but the cop didn't care. Would you want to get punished anyway? This analogy makes no sense. If I was talking about Riot mistakenly banning someone for crashing everyone's game with an item when that person didn't actually do it and nobody actually got crashed you'd have a point. It would be more like saying someone shouldn't be punished for stealing a car cause the owner left the keys in. It was dumb of the owner but the carjacker is still a scumbag who should be punished.
CLG ear (NA)
: because it was riot's fault that they designed the game mode so poorly that doing this strat was possible; so why should the people using the strat be punished for a mistake riot did?
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fn2EUX1E,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-10T10:13:11.689+0000) > > because it was riot's fault that they designed the game mode so poorly that doing this strat was possible; so why should the people using the strat be punished for a mistake riot did? This is pretty poor logic honestly. Remember when certain items were poorly coded and people could use them to disconnect everyone from a match? I guess those people who abused that shouldn't be punished cause it's Riot's fault the items were broken.
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: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T20:40:55.685+0000) > > How about we stop pretending one side's shit smells better than the other's. > > Every single example you gave has a right wing equivalent. For every leftist who thinks black people can't be racist you have a rightist who believes racism doesn't exist. > > Both sides are full of idiots. Trying to act like the other side is more dumberer is laughable. One side has to be more stupid. Although that can honestly change at any time. This year, both sides were plenty full of idiots. I feel the Democrats were more idiotic though.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a00000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-04T20:54:30.471+0000) > > One side has to be more stupid. > > Although that can honestly change at any time. > > This year, both sides were plenty full of idiots. I feel the Democrats were more idiotic though. I don't know, the Republican side are certainly competing for it by failing to repeal Obama care like 5 times or something with a majority.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T20:40:55.685+0000) > > > Every single example you gave has a right wing equivalent. For every leftist who thinks black people can't be racist **you have a rightist who believes racism doesn't exist.** Except for the rare individual example, it really doesn't. For a group of people who think that racism is bad, the left brings up race an awfully lot.
> [{quoted}](name=Theorchero,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T20:43:17.256+0000) > > Except for the rare individual example, it really doesn't. > > For a group of people who think that racism is bad, the left brings up race an awfully lot. You are going to have an awfully hard time convincing me that both sides aren't full of shit after what I've seen with the Clinton campaign and the Trump presidency.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a00000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T17:40:37.123+0000) > > http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/24/dont-believe-hysteria-carbon-dioxide/ > > whatever you say lol Even if I'm incorrect about the anti-science/education, only the left would say that murdering someone in self defense violates the right to a fair trial. Or stuff like Black people can't be racist. Or that racism is simply a power structure. Or that Hillary is proven innocent simply because she wasn't taken to trial.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T18:27:17.455+0000) > > Even if I'm incorrect about the anti-science/education, only the left would say that murdering someone in self defense violates the right to a fair trial. > > Or stuff like Black people can't be racist. Or that racism is simply a power structure. Or that Hillary is proven innocent simply because she wasn't taken to trial. How about we stop pretending one side's shit smells better than the other's. Every single example you gave has a right wing equivalent. For every leftist who thinks black people can't be racist you have a rightist who believes racism doesn't exist. Both sides are full of idiots. Trying to act like the other side is more dumberer is laughable.
: > [{quoted}](name=LadyRenly,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a,timestamp=2017-08-04T17:10:58.499+0000) > > im kinda glad Trump won, i think hillary winning would have made the alt right bigger in 2020. instead we may get the reverse. all these fucking clowns had their meme blow up in their faces with the most braindamaged president. > > i mean, i guess some people enjoy their anti-woman,anti bodily autonomy, anti lgbt, anti evolution, anti education, anti science crony business venture christian sharia utopia > > God bless Canada and Trudeau :<) Pretty sure the anti-education/anti-science are on the left. The left use more "alternative facts" than the right.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9rEdfVE5,comment-id=003a0000,timestamp=2017-08-04T17:21:42.505+0000) > > Pretty sure the anti-education/anti-science are on the left. > > The left use more "alternative facts" than the right. http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/24/dont-believe-hysteria-carbon-dioxide/ whatever you say lol
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Arioch (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=B9tQY8nf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-02T17:59:58.626+0000) > > Weren't you that guy who told a rioter to pull a damiya and got permabanned? id never say something of that manner how dare you
> [{quoted}](name=Arioch,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=B9tQY8nf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-08-02T23:02:16.735+0000) > > id never say something of that manner how dare you Sorry I thought you were Phane Sorter.
Arioch (NA)
: why do my posts get downvoted so much?
Weren't you that guy who told a rioter to pull a damiya and got permabanned?
: Gd, i'm real upset at you. You geniunely led me down the wrong path. Seriously.
Jesus Christ dude focus on getting a job before trying to start a relationship with someone who expects you to have a job. You really think that relationship wouldn't have been a fucking disaster if you did lie?
Arioch (NA)
: cats are disgusting and garbage animals and let me tell you why
As someone who's lived on a farm cats are immensely useful for getting rid of pests.
: please kill myself
i have no mouth and i must meme
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: Putting Stockholders in Charge of Corporations was a Mistake
> [{quoted}](name=Social Justice 1,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=oQ0BNpZt,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-29T04:59:34.557+0000) > > Also, be sure to make all your political/social threads before we merge with Miscellaneous, since they won't be allowed then. Political threads already aren't allowed.
: Easiest Pokemon NPC?
Fishermen who use Magikarp
: > [{quoted}](name=ItsShiaLaBeouf,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LA6ubW56,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-27T22:51:44.213+0000) > > Riot isn't calling people %%%gots just because they are Democratic If mods did their jobs when we had political threads that wouldn't have been a problem
> [{quoted}](name=vfactor95,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LA6ubW56,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-07-27T23:19:41.552+0000) > > If mods did their jobs when we had political threads that wouldn't have been a problem Let's be real, if mods "did their jobs" people would just keep pushing the rules to the very edge. GD has a long history of this.
: Gigantic...New shooter Moba...anyone tested it out?
It's pretty fun, but the grind puts LoL to shame.
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