: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200020001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:16:16.886+0000) > > Please do not use this word if you don't know what it means. I looked it up to make sure I was using it properly. I was.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000200010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:22:15.139+0000) > > I looked it up to make sure I was using it properly. > > I was. Explain why you think communism is in any way relevant then. Because it isn't.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000200010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:01:45.767+0000) > > From the very start Republicans opposed the very idea of making healthcare more affordable. With that in mind the democrats resorted to making the law passable within what support they did have, which caused a lot of the mess we have now. > > This is what partisanship and doing everything in your power to make sure the other party fails gets you. One, implying that Democrats weren't equally guilty of the partisanship with their rush through. Two, implying that their plan wasn't flawed in the first place and the republicans MAYBE were simply calling them on it. Three, with how our insurance works through the nation, the plan was flawed in the first place and bailed out insurance companies rather than making insurance more affordable for most with insurance. Four, the mandate is bullshit and is the Government getting into our lives far too much leading to a socialist/communist society. There were problems on both sides. You cannot accuse the Democrats innocent of partisanship when they shoved through the plan as flawed as it was.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:10:29.234+0000) > > One, implying that Democrats weren't equally guilty of the partisanship with their rush through. > Two, implying that their plan wasn't flawed in the first place and the republicans MAYBE were simply calling them on it. > Three, with how our insurance works through the nation, the plan was flawed in the first place and bailed out insurance companies rather than making insurance more affordable for most with insurance. > Four, the mandate is bullshit and is the Government getting into our lives far too much leading to a socialist/communist society. > > There were problems on both sides. You cannot accuse the Democrats innocent of partisanship when they shoved through the plan as flawed as it was. The Republicans made it clear they didn't want the ACA to exist in any shape or form, and it wasn't because it was flawed. It was because they opposed the entire concept of it. You're the one who claimed the Democrats were responsible for the dysfunction as if the Republicans didn't play a role in that by completely shutting themselves out of the whole thing.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000200010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:01:45.767+0000) > > From the very start Republicans opposed the very idea of making healthcare more affordable. With that in mind the democrats resorted to making the law passable within what support they did have, which caused a lot of the mess we have now. > > This is what partisanship and doing everything in your power to make sure the other party fails gets you. One, implying that Democrats weren't equally guilty of the partisanship with their rush through. Two, implying that their plan wasn't flawed in the first place and the republicans MAYBE were simply calling them on it. Three, with how our insurance works through the nation, the plan was flawed in the first place and bailed out insurance companies rather than making insurance more affordable for most with insurance. Four, the mandate is bullshit and is the Government getting into our lives far too much leading to a socialist/communist society. There were problems on both sides. You cannot accuse the Democrats innocent of partisanship when they shoved through the plan as flawed as it was.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T05:10:29.234+0000) > communist Please do not use this word if you don't know what it means.
: > [{quoted}](name=Evil Jester,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9z9MvVZX,comment-id=00030000000000000001,timestamp=2017-03-25T03:52:35.132+0000) > > Do you not know what a pyramid scheme is? It advertised itself as a University when in reality it was a for-profit real estate seminar business. > > Is your Psyche really so fragile that you can't comprehend the wrong that Trump has done? Is it really that difficult for you to accept that Trump isn't the pretty picture that you paint him out to be? Why do you try to continue to deny these bad things about him? Why do you try to justify his corruption by blaming it on his victims? > > Take Obama for example? Shit, I personally could go on forever about that nobel prize winning jackass claiming to be anti war while dropping 26K drone strikes killing many innocents, but you don't here me blaming the victims for that. "oh well they should have avoided the drones, they're responsible for their own protection" > > it's Bullshit Never said he was perfect, but I don't think it's fair to label him as a scammer or con-artist. Your analogy is very flawed. There's a huge difference between someone believing they're getting screwed after signing a contract and not realizing what they were getting themselves into as opposed to someone being droned without realizing what's happening. It's hard to feel sorry for someone that is claiming fraud when they agreed to the contract without doing the research. I do trust him more than most of our current politicians. Look where they've gotten us? Trump can't do any worse lol....
> [{quoted}](name=Janna F Kennedy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=9z9MvVZX,comment-id=000300000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-25T04:18:16.744+0000) > > Never said he was perfect, but I don't think it's fair to label him as a scammer or con-artist. That's like saying it isn't fair to call Hillary a criminal. :^)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020002000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T04:33:39.731+0000) > > I'm pretty sure Republicans were the ones that made the ACA dysfunctional. They simply would not let it pass until the Democrats caved and gave in to their demands. Uh, no. Democrats rushed it through while they still could. Instead of taking the time to make sure the whole thing worked for as many as possible, they shoved it through while they had majority and did NOTHING to offer compromise. Of COURSE Republicans are gonna start dismantling what they can when they can. Obama had his chance to compromise. When he finally yielded to Republicans when they had the house, they were unwilling to do anything more than repay the same "we won't compromise". Do not act like democrats didn't shove through what they could when they had house and presidency.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200020001000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T04:40:19.634+0000) > > Uh, no. > > Democrats rushed it through while they still could. Instead of taking the time to make sure the whole thing worked for as many as possible, they shoved it through while they had majority and did NOTHING to offer compromise. > > Of COURSE Republicans are gonna start dismantling what they can when they can. Obama had his chance to compromise. When he finally yielded to Republicans when they had the house, they were unwilling to do anything more than repay the same "we won't compromise". > > Do not act like democrats didn't shove through what they could when they had house and presidency. From the very start Republicans opposed the very idea of making healthcare more affordable. With that in mind the democrats resorted to making the law passable within what support they did have, which caused a lot of the mess we have now. This is what partisanship and doing everything in your power to make sure the other party fails gets you.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200020001,timestamp=2017-03-25T04:28:21.106+0000) > > So what you're saying it it's the republican's fault this happened. Republicans dropped the ball on the nomination. Both parties dropped the ball in terms of the ACA (Democrats when it originally came out and making it dysfunctional, Republicans now and being unable to coordinate enough to deal with it). Take your pick. Both parties are at fault for the state of the ACA and the nation as a whole.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000200010000,timestamp=2017-03-25T04:31:38.540+0000) > > Republicans dropped the ball on the nomination. > Both parties dropped the ball in terms of the ACA (Democrats when it originally came out and making it dysfunctional, Republicans now and being unable to coordinate enough to deal with it). > > Take your pick. Both parties are at fault for the state of the ACA and the nation as a whole. I'm pretty sure Republicans were the ones that made the ACA dysfunctional. They simply would not let it pass unless the Democrats caved and gave in to their demands.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-24T23:42:17.150+0000) > > Basically people are making fun of Trump because he got cucked by his own party. Implying he wasn't an independent who swiped the republican nomination.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2017-03-25T03:57:20.212+0000) > > Implying he wasn't an independent who swiped the republican nomination. So what you're saying it it's the republican's fault this happened.
: Idea 5: Remove her fairy.
> [{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlWsq9oZ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-03-25T01:10:05.870+0000) > > Idea 5: Remove her fairy. Idea 6: no
: Just let Obamacare kill itself
Don't worry guys it's only been 7 years. Obamacare will collapse in no time!
: But that isn't why Lulu is strong rn Everyone is maxing E, leaving Q with negligible rank 1 damage Eing a minion and then Qing them from max potential range isn't doing notable damage
> [{quoted}](name=Face The Win,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlWsq9oZ,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:48:46.865+0000) > > But that isn't why Lulu is strong rn > Everyone is maxing E, leaving Q with negligible rank 1 damage > Eing a minion and then Qing them from max potential range isn't doing notable damage And if Riot only nerfed Lulu's E the current Lulu players would just move to Q and find out it does even more damage.
: only took me -1000 downvotes to make you realise that she's not fine or perhaps you got tired of not being able to play your main who's permabanned? change 1 and 3 are core if you want to make her laning phase agency okay
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlWsq9oZ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-25T01:01:33.956+0000) > > only took me -1000 downvotes to make you realise that she's not fine > > or perhaps you got tired of not being able to play your main who's permabanned? > > change 1 and 3 are core if you want to make her laning phase agency okay I never said she was fine. I said that this forums attitude of her changed drastically within a week when nothing was even changed about her for 2 months. I also said that Sona is capable of giving her trouble if played right.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020000000000010001,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:08:50.389+0000) > > I had no intention of bothering with this subject until I saw this thread. So? Lol, the subject came up today. > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:07:34.288+0000) > > Trump rushed this bill without ensuring that his own party was even on board with it. That's not going to look good no matter how you slice it. I agree. He was too confident in his reform and it failed. Hopefully he'll come back to it in the future, fix it up, learn from his mistakes.
> [{quoted}](name=Ser Safir,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200000000000100010000,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:16:09.198+0000) > I agree. He was too confident in his reform and it failed. Hopefully he'll come back to it in the future, fix it up, learn from his mistakes. I got some bad news for you then. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-delays-health-care-vote-failing-reach-deal/story?id=46311086 Looks like Trump's plan to repeal Obamacare is donezo if it didn't pass today.
: Change 1-2 are OK but 3 sounds legitimately awful for trying to E>Q someone at a distance Change 4 is w/e
> [{quoted}](name=Face The Win,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlWsq9oZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:44:17.530+0000) > > 3 sounds legitimately awful for trying to E>Q someone at a distance That's kind of the point. Someone with as much utility as Lulu shouldn't be good at chunking people a lane's distance away.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: I would say lower her slow % at early ranks to like 40-80% at ranks 1-5
> [{quoted}](name=Dasdi96,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlWsq9oZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:33:13.689+0000) > > I would say lower her slow % at early ranks to like 40-80% at ranks 1-5 The majority of complaints I've seen about Lulu is people losing lane to her because of her poke. You're not going to fix that by nerfing her utility in a way that makes her have to max a damage spell first to get it back.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-03-24T23:50:31.349+0000) > > I didn't post anything here, but right now I'm making fun of you for somehow finding it in your head to act all smug about Trump fucking this up. You did, several times and on other threads as well. How am I smug? I don't like the situation. I wanted a repeal. But he didn't muck it up, the Republicans in general did. > On a political perspective this isn't just a simple internal disagreement. This is going to be seen as a sign of weakness and incompetence within the Trump administration. He shouldn't have tried to rush shit like this through and now he's paying for it. So, it is an internal disagreement with the entire party, but you're embellishing it as weakness on Trump alone... Disagreements happened many times in just about every President's career. Obama is no exception to this. Bottom line: You're kicking someone when they're down. I'm disappointed lulu. You're not the type to act like this.
> [{quoted}](name=Ser Safir,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:04:04.429+0000) > > You did, several times and on other threads as well. I had no intention of bothering with this subject until I saw this thread.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-03-24T23:50:31.349+0000) > > I didn't post anything here, but right now I'm making fun of you for somehow finding it in your head to act all smug about Trump fucking this up. You did, several times and on other threads as well. How am I smug? I don't like the situation. I wanted a repeal. But he didn't muck it up, the Republicans in general did. > On a political perspective this isn't just a simple internal disagreement. This is going to be seen as a sign of weakness and incompetence within the Trump administration. He shouldn't have tried to rush shit like this through and now he's paying for it. So, it is an internal disagreement with the entire party, but you're embellishing it as weakness on Trump alone... Disagreements happened many times in just about every President's career. Obama is no exception to this. Bottom line: You're kicking someone when they're down. I'm disappointed lulu. You're not the type to act like this.
> [{quoted}](name=Ser Safir,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2017-03-25T00:04:04.429+0000) > > So, it is an internal disagreement with the entire party, but you're embellishing it as weakness on Trump alone... Disagreements happened many times in just about every President's career. Obama is no exception to this. > > > Bottom line: You're kicking someone when they're down. I'm disappointed lulu. You're not the type to act like this. Trump rushed this bill without ensuring that his own party was even on board with it. That's not going to look good no matter how you slice it.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-24T23:42:17.150+0000) > > Basically people are making fun of Trump because he got cucked by his own party. So... you guys aren't upset, you're just making fun of a party for having internal disagreements on an issue that prevented an expected repeal?
> [{quoted}](name=Ser Safir,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OdWJa2RM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-03-24T23:45:18.394+0000) > > So... you guys aren't upset, you're just making fun of a party for having internal disagreements on an issue that prevented an expected repeal? I didn't post anything here, but right now I'm making fun of you for somehow finding it in your head to act all smug about Trump fucking this up. On a political perspective this isn't just a simple internal disagreement. This is going to be seen as a sign of weakness and incompetence within the Trump administration. He shouldn't have tried to rush shit like this through and now he's paying for it.
: The dems bitched at Trump for trying to repeal obamacare and now are attacking him for not doing so.
Basically people are making fun of Trump because he got cucked by his own party.
: The dems bitched at Trump for trying to repeal obamacare and now are attacking him for not doing so.
Destaice (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2017-03-24T00:26:52.459+0000) > > Um JonTron kept talking about how we need to preserve the white race in America and went on some tangent about how rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people. This is definitely not the exact same case as with PewdiePie because PewdiePie was making a joke while JonTron actually believes this shit he said. > > I don't see how a company not wanting to be associated with this sort of thing = progressive dogma propaganda machine. Do your lies never fucking end? No. that never happened. He talked about the decline in the white race. About how extremist have encouraged race mixing to get rid of white people as a race. You add that on with white couples reproducing left and you have a declining race. But apparently not wanting white people to die out is racist.
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2017-03-24T04:23:57.884+0000) > > Do your lies never fucking end? > > No. that never happened. He talked about the decline in the white race. About how extremist have encouraged race mixing to get rid of white people as a race. > > You add that on with white couples reproducing left and you have a declining race. > > But apparently not wanting white people to die out is racist. I watched the entire debate. All 1 hour and 19 minutes of it. I'm sorry if you can't be bothered to watch it yourself but he most certainly did say those things I mentioned.
Destaice (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Trezno,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-23T20:42:02.443+0000) > > What is it that he said? I don't follow basically anyone super-popular as it is, but either way he should know better than to be a public figure and say things that are offensive. He disagreed with extremists on the internet
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2017-03-24T04:13:34.925+0000) > > He disagreed with extremists on the internet Did you even watch the debate or are you just parroting other people who didn't watch the debate?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-23T20:50:46.211+0000) > > You guys might want to actually look into what Jontron said before calling this a knee jerk reaction or whatever. > > He quite literally argued against the mixing of whites and other races. > > It's really stupid to blame a company for not wanting to be associated with that. While I don't agree with what he said, I do understand what he's getting at, and it's a point of view that people are more than allowed to have and _do_ have all around the world, such as in certain Asian countries, for example. Also Trump's America and Germany back during the reign of Hitler. What he said to back up his claim made sense. Again, I don't _agree_ with it, but it made sense and I'm enough of an adult to recognize that he has a difference of opinion and not to hold that against him, just like how I recognize that some people want to #killallmen, and i don't hold _that_ against _them_. It's all about tolerance. Those that demonize people like Jon for having a different opinion than you are definitely lacking in that department. > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2017-03-24T00:26:52.459+0000) > > Um JonTron kept talking about how we need to preserve the white race in America and went on some tangent about how rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people. This is definitely not the exact same case as with PewdiePie because PewdiePie was making a joke while JonTron actually believes this shit he said. _Was_ PewDiePie making a joke? He paid two people that couldn't read English to hold up a racist sign so he could react to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2017-03-24T02:42:13.687+0000) > > While I don't agree with what he said, I do understand what he's getting at, and it's a point of view that people are more than allowed to have and _do_ have all around the world, such as in certain Asian countries, for example. Also Trump's America and Germany back during the reign of Hitler. > > What he said to back up his claim made sense. Again, I don't _agree_ with it, but it made sense and I'm enough of an adult to recognize that he has a difference of opinion and not to hold that against him, just like how I recognize that some people want to #killallmen, and i don't hold _that_ against _them_. > > It's all about tolerance. Those that demonize people like Jon for having a different opinion than you are definitely lacking in that department. > The problem I have with JonTron is he made all these racially charged claims without doing any actual research. If you're going to claim that "rich blacks commit more crimes than poor whites" or that Mexicans are inherently lazy scum who leech benefits or that countries like Sweden are being rioted into ash you better god damn well have some good sources to back that up. > [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2017-03-24T02:42:13.687+0000) > > _Was_ PewDiePie making a joke? He paid two people that couldn't read English to hold up a racist sign so he could react to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I didn't say it was a good joke, but he pretty clearly doesn't actually think all jews should die.
: It's the exact same case as with PewdiePie. Jontron is also known to have a huge outreach to younger generations. These individuals are systematically being eliminated to make absolutely certain they fall in line with progressive dogma. It's fairly obvious that they go against the large propaganda machine, Pewdiepie incidentally from his videos, and Jontron because he actually tried to make his personal opinions known. It's a sad world we live in, sadder still that people actually support shit like this. I've never been quite so disgusted with the human race as recently.
> [{quoted}](name=Incarcerator,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-03-23T23:44:53.648+0000) > > It's the exact same case as with PewdiePie. Jontron is also known to have a huge outreach to younger generations. These individuals are systematically being eliminated to make absolutely certain they fall in line with progressive dogma. It's fairly obvious that they go against the large propaganda machine, Pewdiepie incidentally from his videos, and Jontron because he actually tried to make his personal opinions known. > > It's a sad world we live in, sadder still that people actually support shit like this. I've never been quite so disgusted with the human race as recently. Um JonTron kept talking about how we need to preserve the white race in America and went on some tangent about how rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people. This is definitely not the exact same case as with PewdiePie because PewdiePie was making a joke while JonTron actually believes this shit he said. I don't see how a company not wanting to be associated with this sort of thing = progressive dogma propaganda machine.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-03-23T21:51:23.943+0000) > > Oh yeah I forgot only white people can be racist. how is the assertion that you don't want people in your country that hate you and your own culture racist. its like saying that "I hate women who kick men in the balls randomly on the street" is misogynistic
> [{quoted}](name=Mortekaiser,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-03-23T22:05:48.705+0000) > > how is the assertion that you don't want people in your country that hate you and your own culture racist. > > its like saying that "I hate women who kick men in the balls randomly on the street" is misogynistic I don't know if you actually watched the debate but JonTron was not just talking about Muslim immigrants during it.
: The problem here isn't Jon. The problem is that the left has shut out all debate by slandering and destroying all opposition. Jon isn't even white for fuck's sake, his parents are Hungarian-Croatian and Iranian immigrants. He isn't a bad guy. He just picked a fight against a monster bigger than he can fathom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFf7qwlnSc I'm siding with Jon here and voting with my wallet. Playtonic made a bad move, they should have kept politics out of this. They stand to lose a lot from fans of Jon and people who hold similar views. Which pisses me off because they had a good thing going with this game.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion Moonray,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=LH5Vphln,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-03-23T21:20:44.366+0000) > > Jon isn't even white for fuck's sake, his parents are Hungarian-Croatian and Iranian immigrants. Oh yeah I forgot only white people can be racist.
: Here's a bit of drama - Controversial comments prompts Playtonic to remove JonTron from Yooka-Laylee
You guys might want to actually look into what Jontron said before calling this a knee jerk reaction or whatever. He quite literally argued against the mixing of whites and other races. It's really stupid to blame a company for not wanting to be associated with that.
: Why does Lulu's E enemy cast deal damage
Probably because it costs 100 mana to cast on an enemy at rank 5, and puts your shield on cooldown.
: I bet they changed the name within the last few days. https://i.gyazo.com/dfc6a69bacff8cfe1536002298501888.png
> [{quoted}](name=TaliyahToMaster,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hmEjTAUP,comment-id=00190001,timestamp=2017-03-22T04:35:02.841+0000) > > I bet they changed the name within the last few days. > https://i.gyazo.com/dfc6a69bacff8cfe1536002298501888.png I have over 1 million mastery on Lulu.
Zielmann (NA)
: I haven't seen what you're talking about here on the boards, but it sounds like people may be confusing spell shields with other things? Polymorph should be able to be spell shielded. And if you cast it on something like Malphite while he's ulting, I believe he turns into a squirrel visually, but the squirrel will still truck your team (his ult will still finish). But he may be a squirrel still after the ult is done, so he wouldn't be able to immediately follow it up with his E, for example. Another classic case is that spells where the animation already started will continue, such as with a spinning Garen. He'll become a spinning squirrel of death, but the spin will still do damage. Similarly, since Lux ult is just a long animation, you could turn her into a squirrel but the squirrel is still going to fire its laser.
> [{quoted}](name=Zielmann,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pRIy1PGB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-21T21:54:16.625+0000) > > I haven't seen what you're talking about here on the boards, but it sounds like people may be confusing spell shields with other things? > > Polymorph should be able to be spell shielded. And if you cast it on something like Malphite while he's ulting, I believe he turns into a squirrel visually, but the squirrel will still truck your team (his ult will still finish). But he may be a squirrel still after the ult is done, so he wouldn't be able to immediately follow it up with his E, for example. > > Another classic case is that spells where the animation already started will continue, such as with a spinning Garen. He'll become a spinning squirrel of death, but the spin will still do damage. Similarly, since Lux ult is just a long animation, you could turn her into a squirrel but the squirrel is still going to fire its laser. Either way Whimsy has always supposed to been blocked by things that make you immune to CC. If it's doing otherwise it is a bug, not a feature.
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: > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=00020000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:31:05.261+0000) > > Lulu's biggest lane counter is sustain. She doesn't have the mana to keep trades up against someone that can sustain against them. you think sona has the mana to heal what lulu can do? i'm surprised by the fact that you think this considering the mana cost of sona's W and the base heal > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=00020000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:31:05.261+0000) > > > You have to remember that a large portion of Lulu's harass comes from using 2 spells. and autoattack? or is it bronze when people don't use them? > [{quoted}](name=TheLittlestLulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=00020000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:31:05.261+0000) > > It's hard for her to just poke you with Q because if you're behind minions it gets cut by 30%. Sona outranges Lulu unless she burns mana to send Q from a minion. it doesn't matter, once you hit the slow if your adc follows it's the easiest 2v2 ever as sona is pure garbage in lane due to her numbers she also has 325 base ms
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=000200000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:53:46.353+0000) > > you think sona has the mana to heal what lulu can do? i'm surprised by the fact that you think this considering the mana cost of sona's W and the base heal > > and autoattack? or is it bronze when people don't use them? > Sona outranges Lulu unless she burns mana to send Q from a minion. > > it doesn't matter, once you hit the slow if your adc follows it's the easiest 2v2 ever as sona is pure garbage in lane due to her numbers she also has 325 base ms Alright I'm gonna bring in some math. For this math I'm gonna assume both Lulu and Sona are level 5, and since from what I'm hearing all of the Lulus being picked are maxing E first I'll take that into account. Now, for a trade involving Lulu using E against Sona this requires Lulu to have gone well within Sona's Q range. Sona takes 140 damage from Lulu's E while Lulu takes 100 damage from Sona's Q. Sona can then use W to heal 35 of that damage as well as shield 30 damage against Lulu's upcoming Q. This results in Lulu doing 155 damage while potentially doing 80 damage to her ADC with Q while Sona returns 100 damage and gives her ADC a 40 damage buff and 65 HP worth of heals/shields, while also potentially hitting Lulu's ADC for 100 with the split of her Q. This trade is perfectly even on mana costs with both supports spending 135 mana. Now we also have to take into account that because Sona's Q outranges Lulu's E Sona can more easily poke Lulu for free. If Lulu chooses to shield against this harass she will be expending more mana than Sona 80 to 55. Now since you mentioned Lulu's auto attack you would be talking about a full on trade. Sona would do 100 damage with her Q (200 if it also hits Lulu's ADC), and additional 40 with her Q passive (80 if her ADC gets in on it) and 49 damage with her powercord. Lulu would do 140 damage with her E which will be substracted by 35 from Sona's heal while also healing 35 from whatever damage her ADC may have taken from then. She will also mitigate 30 damage from Lulu's future Q while also shielding her ADC from 30 future damage. Lulu will deal 27 damage per auto attack assuming the bolts don't get blocked by minions. Ultimately this adds up to Lulu doing 155 damage total from E-Q (205 if her Q hits Sona's ADC) while Sona brings out 100 damage from her Q (200 if it also hits Lulu's ADC) with 80 additional damage from her Q passive and 49 damage from power chord, adding up to 229 (329) contributed damage. In the most ideal scenario for both supports it would take Lulu roughly 5 unblocked auto attacks to match Sona's trade.
: i won't comment on nami since i don't play the champ but how exactly sona can win against lulu? how can you out-trade lulu? sona's base damage are numerically inferior to lulu, her mana cost are way higher if she uses her W her 325 base ms and lack of cc makes her unable to disengage 2v2 how?
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=0002000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:24:18.090+0000) > > i won't comment on nami since i don't play the champ > > but how exactly sona can win against lulu? how can you out-trade lulu? > sona's base damage are numerically inferior to lulu, her mana cost are way higher if she uses her W her 325 base ms and lack of cc makes her unable to disengage 2v2 > > how? Lulu's biggest lane counter is sustain. She doesn't have the mana to keep trades up against someone that can sustain against them. You have to remember that a large portion of Lulu's harass comes from using 2 spells. It's hard for her to just poke you with Q because if you're behind minions it gets cut by 30%. Sona outranges Lulu unless she burns mana to send Q from a minion.
: "i'm going to list you champs, and assume they counter lulu, and i'm right because i said so"
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lJWzigm4,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:05:55.750+0000) > > "i'm going to list you champ, and assume they counter lulu, and i'm right because i said so" As a Lulu main he is right though. Lulu can't win trades against Nami and Sona. You have to get really outplayed to end up losing lane against Lulu in that matchup.
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: Lulu got buffed over a long duration of time and its adding up. 6.13 General BASE MANA: 292 ⇒ 350 BASE MOVEMENT SPEED: 325 ⇒ 330 Glitterlance.jpg Q - Glitterlance NEW LESS LANCE MORE GLITTER: Damage now falls to 70% against targets hit beyond the first SLOW DURATION: 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds ⇒ 2 seconds at all ranks Whimsy.jpg W - Whimsy NEW ON A WHIM: Now also grants 15/20/25/30/35% attack speed for the duration 6.16 COOLDOWN: 18/16.5/15/13.5/12 seconds ⇒ 16/15/14/13/12 seconds BONUS ATTACK SPEED: 15/20/25/30/35% ⇒ 25/30/35/40/45% 7.2 Passive - Pix, Faerie Companion DAMAGE: 9-105 (at levels 1-18) ⇒ 15-117 (at levels 1-18) CONSISTENT PIX: Pix’s damage now increases every level, rather than every two levels Glitterlance.jpg Q - Glitterlance COST: 60/65/70/75/80 mana ⇒ 50/55/60/65/70 mana The meta shifting to support lulu is just the icing on the cake. If you are a lulu player, dont pretend like the buffs never happened :)
> [{quoted}](name=FortisDominus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sjLIWbgz,comment-id=000a00000001,timestamp=2017-03-21T02:02:47.098+0000) > > The meta shifting to support lulu is just the icing on the cake. If you are a lulu player, dont pretend like the buffs never happened :) Yeah, but don't also pretend the nerfs didn't happen either. Losing 30% damage was a huge nerf, and lets not forget when they took off 2 seconds from rank 1 W ally cast and 1 second off max rank ally cast.
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Eedat (NA)
: @Riot when are you getting rid of this 🤔? I **REALLY** don't feel like seeing these things spammed in every title on every board
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wfAvkJIp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-20T22:59:12.136+0000) > > @Riot when are you getting rid of this 🤔? I **REALLY** don't feel like seeing these things spammed in every title on every board You can blame unicode for that, not Riot.
: http://cooperscorner.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/72.jpg EDIT: Oh god what the fuck is your FEK profile picture
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wfAvkJIp,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-20T23:21:14.118+0000) > > http://cooperscorner.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/72.jpg > EDIT: Oh god what the fuck is your FEK profile picture its lulu
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: V7.3 LuluSquare.png Star Guardian Lulu Whimsy.png Whimsy BUG FIX: Champions affected by Whimsy now correctly display their champion name as "Blob" in the chat. V7.2 General BUG FIX: Lulu and her skins once again play their running animations when hasted, rather than walking really really fast. Pix, Faerie Companion.png Pix, Faerie Companion Base damage increased to 15 - 117 (based on level) from 9 - 105 (based on level) Glitterlance.png Glitterlance Mana cost reduced to 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80. V6.22 General BUG FIX: Running animation has been restored on all skins. BUG FIX: Winter Wonder Lulu's Pix attack VFX have been re-snow-ified. V6.18 Glitterlance.png Glitterlance BUG FIX: Slow duration now lasts the intended 2 seconds at all ranks, rather than 1 / 1.25 / 1.5 / 1.75 / 2 seconds. V6.16 Whimsy.png Whimsy Cooldown reduced to 16 / 15 / 14 / 13 / 12 seconds from 18 / 16.5 / 15 / 13.5 / 12. Bonus attack speed increased to 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 / 45% from 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 / 35%. V6.14 LuluSquare.png Pool Party Lulu [S|L] BUG FIX: Hat stretching when she dies. V6.13 Stats Mana increased to 350 from 292.4 Movement speed increased to 330 from 325 Glitterlance.png Glitterlance NEW EFFECT: Bolt damage is reduced to 70% for enemies beyond the first Slow duration increased to 2 seconds at all ranks from 1 / 1.25 / 1.5 / 1.75 / 2 Whimsy.png Whimsy NEW EFFECT: Grants target ally 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 / 35% bonus attack speed for 3 / 3.25 / 3.5 / 3.75 / 4 seconds Totally didn't change at all.
> [{quoted}](name=PPPPPPPPPPPP270,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hmEjTAUP,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-20T22:21:16.042+0000) > Totally didn't change at all. The last buff Lulu got was 2 months ago. Nobody cared until now all of the sudden.
magewick (NA)
: New patch
> [{quoted}](name=magewick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hmEjTAUP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-20T22:07:34.853+0000) > > New patch Nothing even changed with Lulu though. Everyone just decided all of the sudden that she is pick/ban material after ages of being off the radar.
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: As with any new content release, please use the [Spoiler] tag when discussing or showing video, even if it's considered "readily available" on the internet. Thanks.
> [{quoted}](name=TheCurator,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=wUEc1tPR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-20T00:49:07.824+0000) > > As with any new content release, please use the [Spoiler] tag when discussing or showing video, even if it's considered "readily available" on the internet. > > Thanks. Spoilers: The writing is bad and the animation caused the Pearl Harbor attack.
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: > [{quoted}](name=PartyPanda12,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=kqBi6hdH,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T15:54:54.223+0000) > > Are you diamond? yes i am. i just use this account to forum post considering all my accounts are perma'd on forums. and may i ask, why does rank matter in this discussion?
> [{quoted}](name=gorlighlolface,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=kqBi6hdH,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T16:09:29.573+0000) > > yes i am. i just use this account to forum post considering all my accounts are perma'd on forums. and may i ask, why does rank matter in this discussion? You're bad. No backtalk I have 5 challenger accounts. I don't post on them because they are all permabanned on the forums.
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: The way people are willing to go on witch hunts reminds me of Space Station 13
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