Geauxx (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheWoollyMammoth,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:25:13.840+0000) > > please check edit 1. comment was made before edit, so comment stays as is c:
> [{quoted}](name=simply bad,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:26:17.577+0000) > > comment was made before edit, so comment stays as is c: fair enough
: > [{quoted}](name=TheWoollyMammoth,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:25:13.840+0000) > > please check edit 1. It became SJW appeasement when a Rioter outright confirmed it.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:26:41.194+0000) > > It became SJW appeasement when a Rioter outright confirmed it. Next time they make a champ. Make sure someone asks them if the champ is straight. Would it be StraightPride appeasement to say yes?
: Neeko isn't a vocal homosexual. She has about 6 generic lines that illustrate her disgust with having the male form/pleasure with having the female form. Special interactions (primarily with other females) from mimicking others is about double that. And that's more than most of the vocal presence she has regarding gender. It's far from over the top. My issue is players being super vocal about her homosexuality confirmation and treating it as a merit of character design.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:21:06.059+0000) > > Neeko isn't a vocal homosexual. She has about 6 generic lines that illustrate her disgust with having the male form/pleasure with having the female form. Special interactions (primarily with other females) from mimicking others is about double that. And that's more than most of the vocal presence she has regarding gender. It's far from over the top. > > My issue is players being super vocal about her homosexuality confirmation and treating it as a merit of character design. You can be vocal about something w.o being draven i guess? I don't know why the hell the homosexuality think is even that big of a bloody deal. Its her lore. HER Lore made for her from the start. Its not some BS add in or destruction of old lore. Hell, I only made this thread cause the whole thing exploded on social media, and as a active hater of the varus change. I didn't want my problem with varus to look like the problem people have with neeko.
Geauxx (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:16:06.894+0000) > > The fuck are you even saying OP is saying "yay to neeko lesbian" and "fuck you if you have a different opinion" to sum it up.
> [{quoted}](name=simply bad,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xGxAB0Je,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:18:37.910+0000) > > OP is saying "yay to neeko lesbian" and "fuck you if you have a different opinion" > > to sum it up. please check edit 1.
Rioter Comments
: I actually killed a dragon at level 3 just today! It's still possible, and something I'll pull out often for Cloud and Aqua dragons.
I applaud your dedication. My malz died with the rework though. Now he has been joined by trox, and by the time they are done with the nerfs. they will take Sion as well.
: How often does off-meta get reported? - Results from my last 90 days
Long live the old days of the 3 minute dragon club. Aquadragon ftw.
Kai Guy (NA)
: I loved Velkoz support and I only stoped getting Flamed and reported for doing it on any non win... when a fucking Korean team ran it in worlds.
I remember getting raged at for playing morg support is season 3.
: I hate to be this guy (i have to tho) but quite honestly i think you are overreacting( like quite a few people the last few days). New aatrox is just a more wholesome version of the old one abd that is reflected in his voice lines...Now lets try to take a deep breath and examine the situation without putting our nostalgia glasses on : 1) what you propably liked about the old VO was how calm and serious aatrox was right?It had a poetic somewhat melancholic feel to it! New aattox has that as well ! Yea i know , you are propably now thinking that iam mocking you since what you heard in the special interactions video was an angry guy full of emotion..however special interactions are not the only voice lines...in fact his movement lines are for the most part calm sober and even melancholic at times! 2) Sure some specific lines are gone but now you have a ton of new ones that flesh out the character in a magnificent way... Edit : i hope you can find beauty in that as well. Edit 2 : you said yourself that you have already bitched about new aatrox...is there any point behind this threads creation? I mean...you say some pretty heavy stuff like :" i hate the new vo with passion" however nothing new is added to the conversation you just ignite even more hate and controversy! . Dont get me wrong we all sometimes find it difficult to move forward..nevertheless we must at some point accept change and idealy learn to appreciate what she brings to the table.
I had listened to the full VO. And my impression hadn't changed. No, It wasn't the calm and seriousness of it. Though I will not undervalue the grim brutal determination vibe it gave him. Aatrox was a walking dose of troop morale. He helped those he would deem allies tap into a power to fight and conquer that they did not know they had. Sure, it consumed them later. But it is a very Jungian physiological concept. He integrated them with the shadow self. It was poetic. and beautiful in its own right. but that aspect is missing from him. They Broke him. When he was unbreakable. But if he is going to be broken, let him retain some of himself. Frankly, this champion has a special place in my heart. He marks my start to playing this game. He marks YEARS of fun ( and salt) . and playing him with his old VO, did exactly what it was supposed to do in lore. It helped me find strength and inspiration to keep moving forward (yes its corny, yes it weird. but fuck me, it is how it is. Humans find motivation in the weirdest places, and at least I'm not trying to tell anyone about "our lord and savior"). I can respect, that even "gods" can break. That they can be destroyed and change. But he doesnt need to be completely wiped out by this new vo. He is only a "brutal approximation" of his previous form. But they can still include some old almost sion like flashbacks. Give some REAL proof of what he was. This change in him is like having Draven Suddenly become a hippy. Fuck, if I had to choose ONE quote to be carried over. It would be the Rage against the dying of the light. I have enough melancholy in real life. I dont need it out of the video game character that helped me find the tools to combat it. The new VO lines flesh out A character. Just not Aatrox. Edit 1* It is better to risk igniting rage and controversy, and to stand alone on the feild. Then it is to seem complacent in the destruction of something you loved. My comments did not have a chance to stand alone in another persons threads. Here. They can.
Rioter Comments
Northmund (EUW)
: 1.No deny his kit was outdated, i welcome all changes that are UNIQUE. Aatrox players were complete opposite of what riven players were and now they most of them will migrate on Aatrox, because now their kits are almost the same. Q same, W different, E same just shorter, Same AD steroids with MS. So this is the first part where they failed. 2. His old lore ( the one on release ) was the best, it had to be expanded not destroyed. A mystic figure who spreads chaos. He could have become chaos incarnate or his race could have been galactus type race. They invade the planets spread their psychologies energy: Aatrox - War/Chaos, Rhaast - Hatred/Destruction, Varus (old one) - Vengeance/Corruption and etc. New one is a shuriman ascended who was prisoned in a sword. He is not a god now, as ascended are hardly demi-gods.(they are tho) Yet another fail. 3. His visuals. Old Aatrox was kinda anorexic for a God of War, the one who fought vs armies. New model is buffed and looks good, BUT textures are bad. New Aatrox dark part/scales look like a plastic. If you look on his old arm it had some red touches on in. Felt like organic and alive. Compare their chest area, where old had this volcanic typa thing, heart is burning there, new one it is a glowish red reminding that there is a heart that beats at the same time with sword. New wings are horrible. Need more work on that. 4. His voice. I do not know what to say. Community specifically mentioned to save voice actors. This is the one thing you just fucked up really hard. You can add new quotes where he is angry on zoe, but not change the whole voice. Why can he be calm and then shout on zoe. Won't it intensify the hatred part more? The most calm champion just shout at a child, wow he really must be upset.(that is considering new lore, which bad compared to old one imo) If you do not listen to community what is the point of all the board sections with chats about champion, you visiting champion reddits. I start to believe that you think that community owes you or something. NO, you owe us. We made you what we are so LISTEN TO US!
I would be fine with the gameplay changes AND the Visual Work, Hell, I'd be fine with the new vo, If they could just import most of his old lines. "live and be remembered, or die and be forgotten" those kinda things. I mean, hell, rolling with their b.s that the old Aatrox personality is what went into the sword and new Aatrox is what came out. That would even work. A mental flashback to when he was something greater. Undefeated, Untouchable. Then he lost and now is forgotten. Just port over the fucking lines. The delivery would be worse. sure. but at least there would be a ghost of him left behind. Would show some attachment to his previous self....
: After digging more into new Aatrox trying to be unbiased, i feel like i made a big mistake
I stand buy my original comments. They turned the epitomy of Rage against dying into a a champ that is actively trying and pleading for death. God of war into a defeatist. But hey, at least we get another self hating warrior type champ to take ranks with yas and riven. I'm sure he will sell well.
: > [{quoted}](name=thecowley,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=8ipQEKvE,comment-id=003f,timestamp=2018-06-12T21:43:39.993+0000) > > Dudes I reAlly hope that the rest of his vo is significantly different. Playing aatrox felt like murder was art. The same feel jhin gets. Rhaast was already a darkin that revels in killing people. Why do o want a double of that when it already exist? Well why would u want a double of murder = art if it already exists? If Jhin already covers that area then its better for Aatrox to double what exists in Rhaast because it creates coherence with the Darkin theme, whereas making him like Jhin creates dissonance within the Darkin theme... This is probably what Riot was thinking
1. Aatrox was first 2. Different champs played in different roles. I played Aatrox. i've played maybe 2 jhin games? What if I want that personality on a champ I actually enjoy.... There are a alot of other personalities that are similar in league. whats the problem with this one?
: > [{quoted}](name=TheWoollyMammoth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MjzyFcYR,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-04-18T01:33:19.686+0000)AS SUCH, do you not think that it is worth noting that someone such as I, with a none toxic history. Actually started typing such inflammatory b.s in the first place? Should it not be looked at as the first post in what is now a player who feel as though the company has rejected its formal balance design? I do not really consider it worth noting, no, as a large number of players -- even frustrated ones -- manage to express their thoughts rationally and in a helpful manner. I'm sorry that you don't feel like your input is listened to, but I don't think that's something that's Riot's fault, especially when they've recently *improved* on their transparency and willingness to engage with the community. It may not be enough for you, which I'm sorry to hear, but I don't think this single case is indicative of anything other than that you personally feel you have no other recourse. > I have TRIED to be nice, but I feel as though I am dealing with a younger sibling or child at this point. Out of curiosity, what do you EXPECT to see from Riot when you post your thoughts, as one of several million players? I can't help but wonder if the issue here is a mismatch between what you want out of *League* (or think Riot should be prioritizing) and what Riot wants out of *League* or wants to prioritize. More specifically than some generic thing like "balance" that can mean multiple things to multiple people. >Why do they keep making the same mistakes OVER and OVER and OVER? Frankly, I don't agree that they do. Sometimes mistakes are similar (a character is overpowered, a character is underpowered, [insert-role-here] is too strong, etc), but I haven't see a recurring trend of similar mistakes over and over. Similar outcomes with different things in different situations, perhaps. Similar large experiments that don't quite work out, perhaps. But the same mistake? I don't agree. You also need to bear in mind that *League* is evolving into a game with more and more truly unique elements. Runes, Elemental Drakes, odd characters like Kai'Sa who haven't been fully explored before, unusual interactions like those of Swain or Ivern or Illaoi or Urgot or Zoe or Kled or Aurelion Sol or Jhin...the list goes on. Riot is really trying to make their champions feel as unique and as cool as they can, and that uniqueness means that you're going to miss the mark sometimes. Frankly, I'm not really sure what you're referring to as recurring problems here, and that makes it hard to specifically engage in a discussion of those points. > So for someone who LOVES this game, If I see one approach isn't working, (the kind one) does it not make sense. Logically, to do a 180 and try the other? It really doesn't, when you consider what Riot themselves have stated here about how they read and process comments. No one is saying you can't be frustrated or express frustration, but you need to do so in a productive fashion that still shows your respect for the individuals behind the product as people, even if you disagree or disapprove of the work they do. To do otherwise is to lock out discourse and immediately render your point an angry rant that doesn't need to merit a second glance unless a company is failing -- and, while you may not be happy with the current state of things, *League* is far from failing at the moment.
> I do not really consider it worth noting, no, as a large number of players -- even frustrated ones -- manage to express their thoughts rationally and in a helpful manner. You mean like Malicious Metal? Who stopped even talking about Morde. Or like the malz mains which i was one of? Are you sure this just doesnt stop one people realize riot is full of it? > EXPECT to see from Riot when you post your thoughts A REPLY! I cant count the number of times I saw entirely nice threads go completely un-noticed in favor of some rioter "smiting" an idiot who made a post similar to my earlier one. What would be even better then a reply. Is some evidence that riot has some understanding of how balance works in the first bloody place. Have you REALLY not noticed how riot CONSISTENTLY releases finesse champs, has them fail for the first 24 hours and then buffs them into oblivion and back? Kai'sa? release Fiora? Zoe? Bard? Yas? Ekko? Lucian? I'm not sure about Kalista, but im almost willing to bet she was suffering. and then god tier due to buffs. Not players taking time to actually learn the champ, and then when they learn the champ in and out, the champ gets GUTTED. > You also need to bear in mind that League is evolving into a game with more and more truly unique elements. Runes, Elemental Drakes, odd characters like Kai'Sa who haven't been fully explored before, unusual interactions like those of Swain or Ivern or Illaoi or Urgot or Zoe or Kled or Aurelion Sol or Jhin...the list goes on. Riot is really trying to make their champions feel as unique and as cool as they can, and that uniqueness means that you're going to miss the mark sometimes. You make it seem as though I am pissed that they release these champions at all, or how they design them. Or the like they are releasing them OP as hell. When in reality, they are just not paying respect to people learning how to play the champs. > It really doesn't, when you consider what Riot themselves have stated here about how they read and process comments. No one is saying you can't be frustrated or express frustration, but you need to do so in a productive fashion Technically. One could say that I'm trying to do to riot what riot is doing to the game balance, Death by a thousand paper cuts. In that, My negative remarks will leave a longer lasting subconscious mark on any red who reads it then any positive comment I could ever make. Making 1 negative comment from a generally neutral or positive source SIGNIFICANTLY more of a catalyst for change then a nicely put up argument. And THAT is proven to work. It's why good cop has all the control in an interrogation. Bad cop is always bad cop, but nothing hurts as much as being told by someone who believed in you that you are a disappointment. Which riot is atm.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheWoollyMammoth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MjzyFcYR,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-17T23:41:29.142+0000)Just give me a good reason not to be pissed at the idiots behind balance and gameplay. So, if you're honestly looking for a reason here -- as someone with a deep professional interest in game design, it's *hard*, especially with asymmetrical games, multiple roles, vastly differing server communities, and over a hundred and thirty characters (not to mention objective balance, itemization, multiple skill levels, etc). Riot can't really hit 100% or even close to it, especially since larger changes have to be approached a bit at a time to avoid throwing the entire ecosystem out of alignment at once, so sometimes a long-term change for the better comes as a few frustrating patches before things equalize. It's also entirely possible that the design decisions being made are making the game worse for *you*, but it's also important to realize that *League* is bigger than yourself, and the best way to make yourself heard (as Riot themselves have stated) is to have well-reasoned and respectful discussion. They may not always comment, and they may not always agree with you, but telling them your specific problems in a calm, rational manner is infinitely more likely to get them to understand and appreciate your perspective than raging at them. I looked at the post in question here, and if I were a designer I'd not give it a second thought. Had it instead been something along the lines of "Hey Riot -- I *really* hate the mana changes you're testing, as I already struggle to maintain enough mana to contribute to an extended skirmish once I hit mid-game, and I'm afraid that constricting my mana pool further will lead to me having no ability to contribute unless fights happen quickly or I have blue buff. What are your plans for players like myself who already have difficulty keeping our pools high enough to effectively contribute?" -- well, THEN if I saw that I'd at least be thinking "Hm. Let's make sure we get some lower MMR players testing this to see if it feels restrictive, and see if we can do some work to make it so they still feel like they have options...or at least determine if the damage we might be doing to their playstyle is ultimately something we think is in the best interest of the game." >So you are going to be deleting ALOT of my posts. That is, bluntly, not how this works. If you cannot abide by board rules, then we will take steps as appropriate.
Djinn. I agree that the original post was inflammatory at best. REALLY I do. I was going to delete it myself until someone replied. I come looking for arguments that I was WRONG in it. However. I am sure you should also be able to see that I am generally not a toxic poster, and if you had the authority, you would see that I am not a toxic player. AS SUCH, do you not think that it is worth noting that someone such as I, with a none toxic history. Actually started typing such inflammatory b.s in the first place? Should it not be looked at as the first post in what is now a player who feel as though the company has rejected its formal balance design? I have TRIED to be nice, but I feel as though I am dealing with a younger sibling or child at this point. The disappointment is maddening. No matter what I post beforehand. No matter how nice I am am about it. They will NEVER remember the positive posts they see as well as the negative (thats basic human psychology Negative>Positive in the mind) , and I feel as though they have no intention to change with it, because kindness just shows they do not have to worry about alienating players. It means we still have rope left before we start to feel suffocated and angry. Now. I get what you are saying about balance being a terribly difficult job. I understand and did for years. I get it. Nothing is what it seems to be. I own 3 businesses at this point, and I feel like I can understand the endless Waka-mole game balance is playing. Which just makes me more infuriated. How many times can the team make the same mistake before learning? Please. Tell me you see the point I'm failing to make here. Why do they keep making the same mistakes OVER and OVER and OVER? I-I cant even..... Its driving me mad. I try not to think about, really. I try to be kind as I said, and as I hope the history shows. But WHY can't they just learn from their mistakes? This game is the ONLY outlet I have for the shitshow that is my life. I just want it to be good. I dont ask for perfect balance. I ask for a team that learns from its mistakes which I see no evidence of in riot. So for someone who LOVES this game, If I see one approach isn't working, (the kind one) does it not make sense. Logically, to do a 180 and try the other? I mean, honestly. I'm just at the end of the rope here.... I just want them to stop putting their dicks in the blender. Just zip up the pants, and observe want they have done in the past, and how it worked out in the grand scheme of things. ** Edit. I am more then willing to talk about this and maintain a civil attitude should you wish to talk over discord or such.
: k
you sir are a meme. as am I. I approve.
Rioter Comments
: I'm really confused. Don't people say it's a coinflip who gets the better bot lane?
sure feels that way to us jungle types no amount of ganking top wins us the game if bot gets screwed
R3bourne (EUW)
: State of Junglers at the moment / Suggestion for upcoming patches
Lower gold value and increasing respawn rate of jungle camps will completely screw counter jungling. its like lowering experience per camp and then cranking up the spawn rate. Completely dicks any aggressive counter jungle play. Make camps do increased damage and keep the respawn time the same while lowering the general damage in the game. Better yet, Make them deal more damage, take less, and keep the spawn times the same. Then cut the catch up experience in half. Or put it on only major buffs and epic monsters. Increase the value of the camps to junglers alone, and the time it takes to clear them. If stealing red buff and wraiths (THEY WILL ALWAYS BE WRAITHS TO ME!!) from the enemy jungler puts them more noticeably behind. They will put more value into guarding the camps, and will be more hesitant to leave them to gank. If they gank and I steal it. It will hurt them deeply in levels until the next buff comes up. This runs the risk of a snowball problem. BUT its better then invading doing absolutely nothing to actually set the jungler behind.
Ordinus (NA)
: Made Plat!
My Condolences.
Arakadia (NA)
: > About Ashe, she's actually iceborn. They are extremely resistant to the cold to the point if she was wearing anything else she'd be hot as fuck. She is the descendant of an iceborn. There is no confirmation that she is resistant to the cold, but it makes some sense. However her wearing normal clothes would not make her hot. Does it make any sense that the _ice_ born would generate a massive amount of body heat to resist the cold? > Syndra is all about going against Ionia and their modesty standards. I guess this makes sense, but there are better ways to show her rebellious nature than giving her hooker clothes. > Shyvanna actually hates clothing, if you look at her armor, it is literally just humanoid versions of her dragon scales which she wears to conform to concepts of human decency while still feeling like a dragon. Her skin is also tougher than her armor. Good point. I think this is fair. > For Zyra the Vneck is to lure men in shes a succubus like ahri. This isn't true. > Janna, why? What's wrong with a call girl joke? Thats what she is not a prostitute btw. OP's point was that the joke is not fitting. And it isn't. But its a joke so idrc.
> I guess this makes sense, but there are better ways to show her rebellious nature than giving her hooker clothes. Tell that to society in the world since the 1900's.
Grunt666 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=silver 5 btw,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gOvK2zVI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-02T22:17:22.857+0000) > > You can't expect that much to be thought of from a guy who plays a champion that only needs 2 buttons to make his champion function to it's max potential and a shield bot holding his hand while at it. Right I mean unlike the player who spends 95% of the game playing vs the worst ai npc's every designed never having to deal with other actual humans players who then is afforded the luxury of picking every lopsided numbers fight favoring them for the entire game....now that takes REAL SKILL, #junglingissohard PS HALP shaco invaded my jungle OMG my team did nothing to help me 1v1 him team is bad with no map awareness, oh and thx for the crappy leash!
45% of my game is spent trying to cs, like you. 5% of my game walking from camp to camp to do so. 25% of the time I'm running to lane to save you from your laner or to get you ahead of your laner, and because laners are EASILY the worst AI NPC's designed to date. I dont even ping into ganks because I can Guarantee my 0/2/0 ahri will suddenly decide she is a tank and face dive yasuo, giving away my intent to gank. and the last 25% is trying to gain ANY ground against the enemy jungler. This includes drakes (for my laners), or Herald, so that everyone would have to respect my pressure for a few minutes. Usually leading to a good few awkward tangos with the enemy jungler as we jocky for vision. PS. HALP shaco invaded my jungle, followed by thresh and Yas. they want my ass on a spit. It puts you behind if they get me, but if my dear friendly laners collapse with lane priority, we can get out on top of it. Team bad, no mia pings, no wards. then scream for ganks when im behind and takes all my freaking jungle farm. PPS like honestly. F@ck. The enemy jungler doesnt even NEED to counter jungle me. My team is doing it for him. BAD midlaners. Those ARE MY WRAITHS! Yo top. fuck off me Krugs. I need em. Oh hai bot you gonna help me clear gro---.... you f*cker. Its okay guys you can have my blue and red, just let me take some of the cs thats hitting your tower... (DANGER PING) (DANGER PING) (Question mark ping) /all "OMFG THIS NOOB JUNGLER IS TAKING MY CS. LOOK AT HIS FARM. REPORT FOR TROLLING. gg noob jungler is useless. ss and report.
: People trashtalking Riot for not playing the game LUL
I mean. It would be better i think if the bruiser keystone wasn't in the non bruiser tree. Yas is... interesting with the new keystone... I feel like something should be changed with that.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 23
Yasuo with Conqueror seems a bit broken atm. Could you look into it?
yoshi2790 (EUW)
: Because when you win as botlane 2 players get ahead, if you win in another lane only 1 player gets ahead. It's common logic really.
your bot lane losing is indicative of you having an adc with crappier mechanics and grasp on the game. Once they lose they are unable to out damage their counterpart. Lack of damage+ Lack of skill= uselss adc. There are plenty of times the enemy adc is only good at laning, and your adc is godly at team fights. I've seen an ashe feed like the salvation army in lane, but be an untouchable god in team fights after. Orb walking like a pro. BUT this is usually not the case. And If the enemy carry is simply better. Unless you have a godly assassin or such on your team, and the support sucks. Your team will get shredded by the superior DPS. Its not about the 2 players into vs 1 rule. I can get my top lane maokai fed as jungle olaf, and have pressure on the map. But I will not be able to output the same amount of raw damage in the same time fed vayne will, and a maokai who got destroyed in lane will be infinity more useful then a vayne who got destroyed in lane, but unable to make up for the lost dps.
: You've always played champs in ranked that you've played before?
Always. I also try to play against them 20-30 times before i pick them. Need to know the weakness.
: That E bug made Sion op?
> [{quoted}](name=OccuIt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tdn2G8He,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-09T16:50:14.998+0000) > > That E bug made Sion op? had a 54.5% winrate and 33% ban rate. so ya.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheWoollyMammoth,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5IGA9Ot7,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-03-09T16:30:29.670+0000) > > I'm 5'8 and clock in at 145. I'm a lumberjack and farmer. I live on greasy, high carb food, and beer. I drink protein, consume Creatine and muscle grower. I have not gained a pound over in 3 years. The last time I lost weight was when I got to sick to hold any food down for 2 weeks. I lost 3 pounds. > > So friend. I recommend working out in general. But I doubt it will help you gain weight if you are like me. ^ Not all that, but I tried working out and eating more protein for 6 months and nothing happened. I stay between 150 and 155 pounds at all times.
> [{quoted}](name=SupaDevilJuice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5IGA9Ot7,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2018-03-09T16:36:04.807+0000) > > ^ > Not all that, but I tried working out and eating more protein for 6 months and nothing happened. I stay between 150 and 155 pounds at all times. ^ Sucks sometimes. On the plus side, I'll never be the stereotypical fat farmer.
: People ban sion? Even when he was busted I wasn't banning him. He's cancer in lane but he's not going to leave lane and 1v5 my team like a riven or darius.
> [{quoted}](name=MetaCosmos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tdn2G8He,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-09T16:32:50.640+0000) > > People ban sion? > > Even when he was busted I wasn't banning him. He's cancer in lane but he's not going to leave lane and 1v5 my team like a riven or darius. Sitting at a 33% ban rate...
: i have the opposite problem in a sense. my weight flat out does not fluctuate. i can go 3 days without eating, still like 150 give or take a couple pounds, i can eat an entire pizza in one sitting and stuff myself silly for several days, still like 150 give or take a couple pounds. i also need to work out, i have the muscle mass of a gerbil
> [{quoted}](name=I Main Swain,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5IGA9Ot7,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-03-09T05:48:27.647+0000) > > i have the opposite problem in a sense. my weight flat out does not fluctuate. i can go 3 days without eating, still like 150 give or take a couple pounds, i can eat an entire pizza in one sitting and stuff myself silly for several days, still like 150 give or take a couple pounds. > > i also need to work out, i have the muscle mass of a gerbil I'm 5'8 and clock in at 145. I'm a lumberjack and farmer. I live on greasy, high carb food, and beer. I drink protein, consume Creatine and muscle grower. I have not gained a pound over in 3 years. The last time I lost weight was when I got to sick to hold any food down for 2 weeks. I lost 3 pounds. So friend. I recommend working out in general. But I doubt it will help you gain weight if you are like me.
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: I can understand giving champions that arent Sion skins. But i will NEVER UNDERSTAND
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ESeTyRC (NA)
: First Account of Jax in New Lore?
Do you Think He can Go Super Saijax? Supers Saijax God? OMG HIS E IS ULTRA INSTINCT!
: And I really enjoy correcting people. :-P
How much are you willing to sacrifice to keep narrative to yourself though?
: Not sure why we're including Jax in there... But Kassadin and Malzahar look like that because they are touched by the Void. They aren't upgraded, they are cursed. And for the THREE recognizably human/Void champions in the game, there are countless millions throughout history who were even less photogenic after coming into contact with the Void. :-P
^ League of LEGENDS. "Live and be remembered, Or DIE and be forgotten...-Aatrox" We wouldn't be playing the statistically ordinary folk that lost.
: Isn't it just the most terrifying stuff?! I loved it all, from the moment I first saw the concept sketches... We're definitely looking to define and develop more of this. THE VOID WILL CONSUME US ALL.
Yo, the two armies. massive void portal. an age and a half ago. Is this the void rift that A'Sol incinerated?
: Jax's Favorite Food
dammit you beat me to it//
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: Tank junglers ruling the meta and pro play
Sure. but what about the non-pro scene. it isnt the pro patch yet....
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xelaker (NA)
: if sion gets tons of his scaling complete he doesn't chunk most champs for half their health in one shot.
No amount of hp scaling saves sion from the likes of kog and vayne either.
Sahn Uzal (EUW)
: The way I see it, there's few scenarios in which Dying isn't a mistake. If you die? You most likely fucked up, one way or another. You are right that it's our job to take the situations given to us and make the best of it, thus expecting and respecting the early toplane gank and playing accordingly. What is up to debate though, is wether or not we should need to play the way we are. I'm really just playing devil's advocate here, because I think you and the OP are kinda talking past each other here.
> I'm really just playing devil's advocate here, because I think you and the OP are kinda talking past each other here. ^This is probably more accurate then I realized at time of typing response. **BUT** (and it is a large one) I am happy when the enemy jungle camps me. It means that my coinflip botlane has that much more chance to win lane. Am I behind? ya, the camp usually puts me about 20 cs behind, maybe a level. But That is one player behind, instead of 2. And if I fall behind, I can still be annoying as hell to the enemy carries. If my adc and sup fall behind... Well, that usually gg.
Rexxiee (NA)
: Remember when you had a 1v1 laning phase top lane that lasted longer than 2:30 minutes?
I've become a top lane main since our last run in on the boards good sir. I get my ass handed to me on occasion by early jungle pressure. It is my fault for tunneling and forgetting that the jungle would be there at 2:30. Both teams have junglers. If their jungler is up top at 2:30, so is yours. If you are playing an early champ into nasus, OF COURSE a good jungle will gank your ass. A good jungle will gank 3-4 times. Just to ENSURE that nasus gets ahead, becuase if he doesn't, nasus will lose lane, and then when the jungle reaches 6, he will be unable to properly apply pressure bot. Cause you will be fed, and he will need to rescue his under farmed and weak nasus. It is the job of your jungle to A- Counter gank him and get you gold. or . B snowball bot and mid to hell while he is protecting nasus. It is your job to make that possible AND to make it easier for your jungle to gank by last hitting just underneath your turret range. Manipulate the minion wave, quit bitching jungle O.P when you are being stupid and you should KNOW it. And realize that this is a team game and Macro>Micro.
: Now that Quinn is getting looked at, can we play as Valor again?
I would love a full revert into old quinn. I liked playing as the burst bird of death.
: > [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=40pR8PPb,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2018-02-22T23:04:22.584+0000) > > Actually, here. These are some of my favorites. > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSnarkKnight > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkassWoobie > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MaddenIntoMisanthropy > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightInSourArmor > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadpanSnarker > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TooDumbToLive > > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NiceJobBreakingItHero Saying stuff so I can find this later on my actual computer :^)
> [{quoted}](name=MuffledGarbage,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=40pR8PPb,comment-id=0002000000010001,timestamp=2018-02-23T19:28:38.096+0000) > > Saying stuff so I can find this later on my actual computer :^) I'M HELPING!
: Something kinda unpopular, that I think needs to be stated:
renekton, sion, camille, ekko, jax, pantheon, zyra, morgana, voli.,.... The list goes on.
: It's just your fantasy filling the gaps. Nobody is going to look at her and think of it, i haven't even come to this far-as-fuck fetched idea. Truth be told, she shouldn't have survived the Void as a fucking child in the first place and she should have gotten traumatized to the point where she turns into someone like Rek'Sai instead of..this. You don't "shut down", most people here claim to be psychologists, except that i have actually studied psychology. When people are forced into extreme stress situations, they generally become highly aggressive and defensive. The Void is supposted to be Hell on earth but apparently she makes it look like you can raise kids there. There is no such thing as immunity to trauma. Her personality shows no signs of mental fortitude.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=40pR8PPb,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-02-23T15:22:22.593+0000) > > It's just your fantasy filling the gaps. Nobody is going to look at her and think of it, i haven't even come to this far-as-fuck fetched idea. > > Truth be told, she shouldn't have survived the Void as a fucking child in the first place and she should have gotten traumatized to the point where she turns into someone like Rek'Sai instead of..this. You don't "shut down", most people here claim to be psychologists, except that i have actually studied psychology. When people are forced into extreme stress situations, they generally become highly aggressive and defensive. The Void is supposted to be Hell on earth but apparently she makes it look like you can raise kids there. > > There is no such thing as immunity to trauma. Her personality shows no signs of mental fortitude. When forced into high stress situations, you _**GENERALLY**_ become extremely aggressive or defensive, or you die. If you are exposed to battle for long enough you either break violently, or you become quite, secluded and efficient. The difference is the difference between general military and elite forces (like spetnasz). It is not something that can be trained into you. It is something you are born with. If she is still in a battle scenario, or is being chemically forced into one by the suit. Then she could just not have the chance to break. It will take a long term toll on her body, adrenal glands specifically, but short term, she will live. As for the mental aspect, the symbiote makes her capable of sustaining herself in the void. So it must be able to convert what she consumes into nutrients and such for her body. It isn't going to let her break down in any way, because it wants to live. Combine that with the fact that people can become desensitized to horror, and all the symbiote needs to do is pull her through the first couple years. She will eventually get to the point where she sees a zix or cho and says "yay, dinner arrived" not because they arent a threat, but because it's just another day in "F!@king paradise...F@CK ". If you want to take it even further, the game is called league of LEGENDS. Not, League of STATISTICALLY ORDINARY people. So I feel like it isnt far fetched to assume that she is in the small percentage of people who shut down their emotions, and go on their merry way. Which, if you studied psychology you know as well as I, happens in some RARE scenarios. Are you saying silent monotone people cant have mental fortitude? I mean, she survived the void, and acts like she does, I'd say that a sign of mental fortitude. What the hell do you expect her to do? Walk around telling everyone of how horrible that terrible tragic place was, and how sad it made her feel to be there? Or just go around crying that she suffered so much? If she didn't snap into crazy for cocopuffs mode. Then I can imagine she wouldn't talk about it very much. Plenty of people that survived hell on earth don't talk about it very much. They just keep it to themselves, bottling up, and eventually exploding. Which again, you should know. My bets are that w.o some SEVERE help, she will be dead before 50. Chemical damage to neural pathways and heart tissue. (unless the suit takes over and makes her a new heart. In which case, she is eating a long term dot that will eventually change her into a complete voidling.
: that's cool and all, but she is called the daughter of the void, and not the battle veteran, she isn't a trained middle aged soldier that was sent on a mission, she isn't Rita from Edge of tomorrow or Brand from Interstellar, she is defenseless young girl that was thrown into the void to die, she is Mowgli or Tarzan who were abandoned by their parents and left to die in the jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=cocacolalips,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=40pR8PPb,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-22T22:18:03.403+0000) > > that's cool and all, but she is called the daughter of the void, and not the battle veteran, she isn't a trained middle aged soldier that was sent on a mission, she isn't Rita from Edge of tomorrow or Brand from Interstellar, she is defenseless young girl that was thrown in the void to die, she is Mowgli or Tarzan who were abandoned by their parents and left to die in the jungle. Normalized fear and chaos works for everyone. You can make children into Rita really quickly. Due to their mental vulnerability, you will probably "break" them faster then most adults.
Rexxiee (NA)
: Sion pickrate up to almost 15%, wr still ranging between 55~56%
Dude, its not even been 24 hours since the patch. Half the people playing this game probly havent even updated their clients. Let the buffs and ap items settle in.
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