: Gee it's almost like they're removing the damn item in preseason.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oV0OdbWB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-21T04:14:52.362+0000) > > Gee it's almost like they're removing the damn item in preseason. He was trying to be sarcastic, showing champions with higher win rates and pick rates than Jax and Renekton even though SoS is said to be OP. But yeah, it's getting removed and kind of deserves it. Just because the main champs that abuse an item have a lower win rate than other champs, that doesn't mean the item itself isn't problematic. Jax, for instance, has a [60% win rate once he has a completed Spear of Shojin](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/items/jax/top).
: Darius... Full Tank Most Damage on enemy team Darius...
: Nocturne Top
I'm pretty sure Garen would wreck him too. Whenever I play against a Nocturn jungle as Garen, even pre-rework, it always seemed like I could easily sustain through his burst and basically one shot him. I'm pretty sure top would be a similar story.
: I Think Silence Should Stop Tryndamere Ult
This would make so many champs hard counter Trynd, he would be absolutely terrible in a lot of matchups. If you don't like his current ult you should instead advocate a general rework to make him a less problematic champion.
: Do not release Senna the way you are now.
I kind of agree. Seems like even "The Redeemed" would be a more fitting title as she was saved from her imprisonment in Thresh's lantern.
Zardo (NA)
: Not everyone frequents surrender@20 or follows whoever puts out the balance changes on twitter. Some people just don't know.
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GBO241U5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-20T23:32:23.209+0000) > > Not everyone frequents surrender@20 or follows whoever puts out the balance changes on twitter. Some people just don't know. I mean, the guy is on the boards, and I've seen multiple posts about in on here too so it's kind of expectable that someone would do a little research before making a post. But yeah, he's getting nerfed next patch. Seems like a pretty small nerf though and probably won't change much.
Talisid (NA)
: {{item:3161}} is getting removed, so he should be much less cancerous next season. Making him able to do back to back to back alpha strikes to make him invisible and untargetable for entire first half of a fight before cleaning up everyone is some seriously bull.
> [{quoted}](name=Talisid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mHmEBuOE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-20T22:43:45.743+0000) > > {{item:3161}} is getting removed, so he should be much less cancerous next season. Making him able to do back to back to back alpha strikes to make him invisible and untargetable for entire first half of a fight before cleaning up everyone is some seriously bull. On the other hand he's going to get a bugfix next patch that is basically a buff that makes rageblade work better on him.
Altiverse (EUNE)
: How in hell wasn't Garen hotfixed yet? - Another rant on one amazing team in a big company
"Why in holy hell did they reduce Garen's free warmog's passive requirement from level 11 to 1?" His passive is worse level 1 now lol. It starts up 2 seconds sooner, but it's 1.5% mx hp per 5 seconds instead of 2% like before, and it doesn't get doubled below 25% hp. It's also worse after 11 than before in most situations. The only thing about him that's really overtuned right now is the damage on his e. Complaining about anything else is silly. Well, I can see complaining about his ult as well, but for the most part I think that part is pretty balanced.
Yenn (NA)
: I'm playing Kennen against Garen. I have 615 gold from Klepto at 10 minutes. He's at 100% HP.
Lol a klepto kennen top player complaining about non-interactivity. That being said, yeah Garen is a little overtuned rn.
: it's due to his E now having scaling off his atk spd
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UbtE4jL5,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-19T00:39:10.043+0000) > > it's due to his E now having scaling off his atk spd I'm aware. It's 20% attack speed for each extra spin, but a dagger only gives 12% as, so at level 1 a dagger doesn't actually get you another spin.
: yes but the new garen buffs have made it he can one bang you with a dagger at lvl 1
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UbtE4jL5,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-18T07:05:26.782+0000) > > yes but the new garen buffs have made it he can one bang you with a dagger at lvl 1 I'm 90% sure a dagger doesn't even give him an extra spin at level 1. Pretty sure with just a dagger and no other items he has a 7 spins level 1, 8 spins at level 4, 9 spins at level 7.
KazKaz (OCE)
: Actually Kha's ultimate invis is quite a bit longer than 1 second, the tooltip blatantly lies.
> [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=69zlERjR,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-10-17T15:45:00.888+0000) > > Actually Kha's ultimate invis is quite a bit longer than 1 second, the tooltip blatantly lies. Yeah, after it's evolved it lasts 2 seconds and can be cast 3 times during the ult duration. Pretty busted tbh. My last game I played a game against Kha'Zix, it was basically a 1v1 game, both of us were insanely fed. I was playing Garen and built a dead mans so I could beat him in the 1v1 generally, and he kept ranting about how Garen is OP. I mean, he kind of is this patch haha, but I just thought it was funny because Kha'Zix is pretty busted too. He was complaining about me being able to one shot everyone while at the same time he was one shotting everyone on my team.
: I got RP from Riot, for what?
Same thing happened to me but it was when I logged in. I have no idea what caused it but I'm cool with it. Got 1k RP, or something right around there.
Hotarµ (NA)
: I think it's pretty obvious. My boy [**Averdrian**](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Averdrian) is finally coming to the Rift!!!
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=PbWqhYgL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-13T16:22:25.931+0000) > > I think it's pretty obvious. > > My boy [**Averdrian**](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Averdrian) is finally coming to the Rift!!! His mommy didn't love him. Left him in the trash can soon after he was ejected. This is the reason behind his lack of ethical behavior. Poor sod. :(
: Don't you tell me how to play Garen Garen is a Full AD Jungle assassin that takes Predator as a keystone.
> [{quoted}](name=Worst JG Wins,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZkoWAy80,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T22:45:45.200+0000) > > Don't you tell me how to play Garen > > Garen is a Full AD Jungle assassin that takes Predator as a keystone. A true man of culture.
: What exactly is Jax's weakness?
Right now? Garen. There's a bug where when Garen's q gets blocked by Jax e, it doesn't actually get used up so he can q the jax right when counterstrike is up if his q gets blocked. Plus reworked Garen just does a ton of damage with conq so it works out pretty well.
Bazzible (OCE)
: [Gameplay] Master Yi R preventing Singed from W E rooting
I think this bug has existed for a long time. They know about it, just too lazy to fix this one small interaction, I think.
: Proof that it’s getting removed or get out. I’ve seen so many people saying this but no-one can show where it was said by Riot.
> [{quoted}](name=BladeSteel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E4Utw3y2,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-11T14:13:33.547+0000) > > Proof that it’s getting removed or get out. I’ve seen so many people saying this but no-one can show where it was said by Riot. ^^^
Lafouboy (NA)
: Which is better on new Garen? 10% Attack Speed rune or 9 Adaptive Force rune?
Yes, 10% attack speed rune does literally nothing for his spin. Don't take it.
: Shens dodge zone doesn't reset garens q anymore?
Huh that's interesting. Definitely a bug.
: Why is Garen one shotting me ?
I've been one shotting people on Garen for like a year. Excited for the changes :)
: Haha you first picked a melee champion
1.1% pick rate. Oh the horror!
: I've won countless games in which i've been the only one to vote "No" to a 15minuts surrender. So remove this feature please.
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wIzW2H9I,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T13:54:20.391+0000) > > I've won countless games in which i've been the only one to vote "No" to a 15minuts surrender. > > So remove this feature please. If you rarely if ever accept a 15 minute surrender, it is in your favor to keep the feature from a win rate perspective, given that from time to time the enemy team will surrender at 15.
Cloud273 (NA)
: Can we nerf Kha'zix already?
_Laughs in_ {{champion:23}} {{champion:86}} Kha can't do much into these guys :)
SS1986 (NA)
: So i use to play master yi
I think he's still in a decent spot. Maybe not as good as before rageblade was nerfed, but the lack of delay when activating q and w is very nice. I still like playing him from time to time.
: Why Does No One Want To Play Jungle?
Idk, I kind of like jungle. Definitely a much more enjoyable role for me than adc or support.
: That Veigar build is actually terrifying. Stun some random asshole for 2.5s get like 5 AAs off w/ that shit. They ded.
> [{quoted}](name=ArtumisPrime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bMt1OA5W,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-06T17:47:34.364+0000) > > That Veigar build is actually terrifying. Stun some random asshole for 2.5s get like 5 AAs off w/ that shit. They ded. Yeah. Hail of blades is probably the keystone you want there. Kinda like ad leblanc
: Kass, yes. Veigar is not an AP assassin.
> [{quoted}](name=ArtumisPrime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bMt1OA5W,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-10-06T12:09:22.368+0000) > > Kass, yes. Veigar is not an AP assassin. You're right, he's an ad assassin. {{champion:45}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3117}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3508}} Personally I think Garen is the best AP assassin. {{champion:86}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3020}} (With predator) {{item:3285}} (or {{item:1402}} ) {{item:3165}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3089}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1EIWsRVB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-05T15:15:36.787+0000) > > Because for some reason Riot think that if a team is ahead, they should be able to finish quickly instead of endlessly sieging the team that is already behind and is locked in their base, losing access to jungle and drake/nashor. I don't really agree with this, but that's the reason. If you lost a fight near your base, you lost the game. Well, sometimes you HAVE to finish the game quicky, imagine you smash a Nasus top and Vayne bot but can't finish the game quick enough because for some reason the last towers on top of being so far that you are behind enemy lines are impossible to destroy. Imagine what becomes of splitpush only champions that offer nothing on a team fight like {{champion:23}} once they cant provide enough pressure for the enemy team to come after them because they dont do enough damage to towers... you would literally break the game by making it forcefully longer when you have champions that scale so much {{champion:75}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:67}}
> [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1EIWsRVB,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-10-06T04:08:51.830+0000) > > Well, sometimes you HAVE to finish the game quicky, imagine you smash a Nasus top and Vayne bot but can't finish the game quick enough because for some reason the last towers on top of being so far that you are behind enemy lines are impossible to destroy. Imagine what becomes of splitpush only champions that offer nothing on a team fight like {{champion:23}} once they cant provide enough pressure for the enemy team to come after them because they dont do enough damage to towers... you would literally break the game by making it forcefully longer when you have champions that scale so much {{champion:75}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:67}} Tryndamere's teamfight potential is actually pretty good, especially if he's fed. If he's behind, yeah he's pretty useless in teamfights.
: Has anyone ever got a tier 3 5 cost unit?
I got a tier 3 Evelyn once. That's the only one I can remember, but it definitely happened. I still got second place that game, the last guy had a couple dragons claws that were hard for her to deal with. EDIT: Misread as a tier 3 3 cost unit for some reason. I'm very tired. Nope, haven't gotten a tier 3 5 cost before.
: AREN'T YOU TIRED OF KAI'SA?
I'd rather see Kaisa than Vayne. Both on my team or the enemy.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=ThisName1sDumb,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zKTztBJE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-05T21:24:05.264+0000) > > Infested ball of stats, eh? Better just throw an even bigger ball of stats at her. {{champion:23}} > > There are some other melee tops who she definitely doesn't just auto win against {{champion:107}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:420}} > > And yeah, that 50.5% winrate is _massive_, no justifiable reason for any champ to have more than a 50.1% winrate. She has a 50% attack speed and movespeed slow on her w.
> [{quoted}](name=Dasdi96,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zKTztBJE,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-10-05T22:04:37.981+0000) > > She has a 50% attack speed and movespeed slow on her w. Her slow is pretty telegraphed, if Trynd holds onto his spin he can dodge it easily.
Juice (EUNE)
: She will kite Tryndamere as a melee champion. Rengar / Darius / Illaoi are all broken in their own ways. She will absolutely stomp over volibear at any point in the game Winrate has nothing to do with showcasing how broken something is. If you paid any attention to competitive LoL you'd see how broken she is WHILE her kit is designed around pubstomping and not actual pro play
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zKTztBJE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-05T22:02:42.610+0000) > > She will kite Tryndamere as a melee champion. Rengar / Darius / Illaoi are all broken in their own ways. She will absolutely stomp over volibear at any point in the game > > Winrate has nothing to do with showcasing how broken something is. > > If you paid any attention to competitive LoL you'd see how broken she is WHILE her kit is designed around pubstomping and not actual pro play {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} I brought up win rate because the OP did. OP said winrate was massive, but it's not. Trynd and Voli both do well against Fiora in diamond and below, but at the top of the ladder and in pro play you're right about those two. Pro play isn't everything though. I mostly just brought up Trynd because he's a ball of stats.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Fiora autowins every melee top lane matchup, and now is able to kill turrets fast.
Infested ball of stats, eh? Better just throw an even bigger ball of stats at her. {{champion:23}} There are some other melee tops who she definitely doesn't just auto win against {{champion:107}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:420}} And yeah, that 50.5% winrate is _massive_, no justifiable reason for any champ to have more than a 50.1% winrate.
: pick {{champion:86}} wait for him to use his pull by baiting it or his circle . then Q, spin for half the time, back rinse+repeat. i usually win this lane unless there's a jungler babysitting him also don't bother getting tanky. get triforce instead if you want more information about beating darius, check out my favourite garen/darius main youtuber: The Glacierr
> [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=62AgFzIB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-01T09:10:10.101+0000) > > pick {{champion:86}} > > wait for him to use his pull by baiting it or his circle . then Q, spin for half the time, back > > rinse+repeat. i usually win this lane unless there's a jungler babysitting him > > also don't bother getting tanky. get triforce instead > > if you want more information about beating darius, check out my favourite garen/darius main youtuber: > > The Glacierr If the Darius is any good you need to take phase rush in this matchup as Garen. If you do, though, you can generally survive laning phase and go pretty even. Tryndamere can do pretty well against Darius too, the only way it can really go bad is if he pulls you out of your spin, but even that is generally not terrible after level 6 if you have ult as long as you're roughly even in gold.
: BRING BACK NEXUS BLITZ
You're wrong. Nexus Blitz was better than urf :)
: Sure in a small amount of games you can get unlucky In a large amount of games though, say more than 100, you'll find that you get almost as many smurfs on your team as on the enemy team It's the law of large numbers
> [{quoted}](name=BigBrainSuppMain,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u1fnAZjU,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-09-29T23:22:05.887+0000) > > Sure in a small amount of games you can get unlucky > > In a large amount of games though, say more than 100, you'll find that you get almost as many smurfs on your team as on the enemy team > > It's the law of large numbers In theory, assuming you're not a smurf, you'll get more smurfs on the enemy team because there's a chance any of the 5 enemies are smurfs, while there's only a chance that any of 4 players on your team are smurfs. Like, if you know there is one smurf in a game, and you're not the smurf, then there is a 4/9 chance the smurf is on your team and a 5/9 chance he's on the enemy team. Luckily, this also applies to trolls/ inters, so assuming you're not a troll/ inter over a large quantity of games you should in theory encounter more trolls on the enemy team than your own.
Rockman (NA)
: what would you do if Kled claimed your house
I'd call the cops. If that doesn't get the issue resolved I might try to bribe him with Tacos.
RJay123 (NA)
: You sound like someone who didn't read any of the stuff that took me days to put together, but hey, to each their own, right?
> [{quoted}](name=RJay123,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=J3zAfdoW,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-28T18:41:49.274+0000) > > You sound like someone who didn't read any of the stuff that took me days to put together, but hey, to each their own, right? I read a fair deal of it. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm sure a lot of people would like it. Theme parks just aren't really my thing.
: I wish you could get account XP from playing TFT, you can complete missions but not level up?
This would just lead all the people who sell level 30 league accounts to put all their bots on TFT, a game mode much easier to make a bot for, and probably much harder to detect a bot on.
RJay123 (NA)
: League of Legends World (CAUTION: A VERY Long Read)(...but worth your while...)
I feel like I would rather play League than go to a League of Legends World.
: Can Tryndamere even use his ult now ?
Tryndamere's ult should in theory be even stronger than it otherwise would be in a burst meta, given that Tryndamere can survive through infinite burst with his ult. Sure, you have to ult earlier, but it also means most other champs would just die pretty much instantly while you have 5 seconds to live.
: lollipopping and that shield looks like either karma or lulu. either way, both of those champions have ***FAT-ASS*** hitboxes that go far beyond their character model. same with cait and most other slender human female champions
> [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MBx30pUI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-27T00:01:24.737+0000) > > lollipopping > > and that shield looks like either karma or lulu. either way, both of those champions have ***FAT-ASS*** hitboxes that go far beyond their character model. same with cait and most other slender human female champions The shield might be from Lulu, but I think the actual champ the hook hit is Kai'sa
Brakøn (NA)
: Arurf still sucks.
Just balance all champs around URF. Like, in all gamemodes, don't just balance them for URF.
BradBen (NA)
: you do realize that he can catch up to you with his Q right ? and he can by boots too {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=BradBen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ONqKbEHu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-25T11:34:42.962+0000) > > you do realize that he can catch up to you with his Q right ? > and he can by boots too > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} His q is his one normal ability that doesn't help him catch up to you lol. His w slows and his e is a dash of sorts, but his q is just his heal and damage amp.
: It has Begun
Hmm. Yeah, Rito messed up it seems.
: Garen...
Yeah that's how you win as Garen. You don't win trades against most champs early if they play correctly, but you have a lot of sustain compared to other lots of other champs, so you take trades that seem bad, heal up, repeat, all in. Garen's passive is pretty bad before level 11 though. They are planning to make some changes to Garen, and they've had a few iterations on the PBE. The general feel of it has been less armor and mr from his w, more damage on e, and passive scales smoothly rather than jumping from pretty bad to OP at level 11. Also, they removed the villain mechanic and made his ult always do true damage, but it's less damage than his current values.
: 2 Years, 0 Balanced champions
Yeah, I agree with the above. Qiyana is pretty balanced. Yuumi I would say isn't over-buffed, in fact I think she's quite weak, but I also think that if she were buffed any more it would cause issues. Neeko's root is really strong, but overall I think she's pretty balanced. I agree that Pyke, Yuumi, Sylas, and Kai'sa all have kits that are really tough to balance, and atm none of them are. Sylas and Yuumi are on the weak side and Kai'sa and Pyke are on the strong side (especially Kai'sa)
: Yall tell me how i was supposed to win this game?
You probably could have won if you were some insanely good high elo player playing a hard carry champ, but yeah, with your current skill level, even if you had a particularly good game there's really nothing you can do in a game like that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAoay4jc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-22T23:15:32.749+0000) > > 0 counterplay? How about buying a {{item:3194}} Building an item to slightly reduce your damage taken isn't counterplay. If it was, old Pantheon would've had counterplay with {{item:1031}}.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IAoay4jc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-23T00:03:32.494+0000) > > Building an item to slightly reduce your damage taken isn't counterplay. If it was, old Pantheon would've had counterplay with {{item:1031}}. He did.
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