: So...I understand why people make smurf accounts
Yup, you are now seeing the light. Once your MMR is high enough you get punished in normals to the point where it is no longer a fun queue at all. It is much easier to make a smurf and practice new stuff vs Plats than it is to keep queueing up for normals in hopes of a game that lasts long enough to even get a 2nd item. From what I have seen normals are pretty much stomps, one way or another, or even if the game took about 30 minutes you had to play in a way that you would never play in ranked in order to win due to something out of your control. An example of this is when I see my support friends get stuck with a level 17 ADC and they end up just taking all the farm since the ADC has no clue that those minions give out gold and then they build full damage to make up for the lack of team fighting damage. In a ranked game this would never be a good technique to use but in a normals this is a pretty good strat for when your ADC just installed last week.
: Why do antagonists always go unpunished?
Some antagonists get punished, but I often see people punish people more based on performance than toxicity. Also, a lot of antagonists just stir the pot a bit and then step back and let their target explode and earn a punishment. Honestly the whole system is pretty stupid and pointless. Its been proven enough times that people don't learn from being punished as they do from being rewarded, so I am not sure why we have a system that does both. For real results they would just make it so the reward is a lot better and harder to achieve and take away punishments for the small stuff. This would make people strive to attain the big reward rather than just squeaking by to not get a punishment. It isn't like we can't just mute people. And no, I am not saying we should allow the really toxic game ruiners to go unpunished. People that AFK, give away positions in all chat, troll to the point of throwing the game, they deserve to be punished. People that say "You are dumb, shut the fuck up!" could just be muted, it takes being a real cry baby to have to report someone for hurting your feelings when there is a button that instantly stops the communicate.
: Matchmaking still broken in normal games.
Yea, in normal they prioritize lower queue times over healthy balanced games. Some games I have diamonds on my team, some games I go vs challengers, some times I go vs high diamonds with a team of pre-30s. It is pretty dumb indeed and is the reason most people just smurf to practice instead of play in normals because at least in smurfing in ranked the 2 teams are balanced outside of yourself.
: I want to learn how to Jungle
Add me if you want, been maining Jungle since season 2.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thr34t,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1psEYoZY,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-07-09T07:34:55.552+0000) > > Lol he says he is a jungle vet, look up his past seasons on na.op, terrible win rates as a jungler. He has been playing for a while now and us just dropping each season and is now h ard stuck gold 5, next season he will be silver. His mentality loses games. How can i be hardstuck in a rank i got less than a week ago with +25 wins?
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1psEYoZY,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-07-09T10:39:05.054+0000) > > How can i be hardstuck in a rank i got less than a week ago with +25 wins? Lol took you over 300 games just to get gold 5? Point proven.
H1imyogi (NA)
: Is elo thrown out the window in norms?
There are seperate ratings for each queue, but that is not the problem. The range allowed in norms is a lot looser than ranked.
: Platinum 5 is hardest to get out of
I usually find plat 5 to be an easy area when I smurf. People throw harder around plat 2or 3.
: Why do junglers feel entitled to a leash?
Lol he says he is a jungle vet, look up his past seasons on na.op, terrible win rates as a jungler. He has been playing for a while now and us just dropping each season and is now h ard stuck gold 5, next season he will be silver. His mentality loses games.
: And what makes your "solution" so correct? Are you the god and sole creator of league who knows everything?
> [{quoted}](name=ImmaHappyPotato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m0duWM4G,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-09T04:20:17.917+0000) > > And what makes your "solution" so correct? Are you the god and sole creator of league who knows everything? Lol youve been playing for 2 seasons, ended the last in bronze. Ive been playing since the beginning and have over 3 years experience in diamond. I know a lot more than you about how to play and climbing.
: please fix the ranked mode, it's broken and totally unfun to play (read riot)
B0T (NA)
: Am I going crazy/hearing voices? League related
How old are you? Schizophrenia develops later in life than people expect.
: Players who intentionally steal xp from junglers
Yea I have had a few games like this. Sometimes the person starts off like this right away for no reason. Sometimes someone gets destroyed in a 1v1 in lane before the 2 minute mark, dies, TPs back in, dies, blames me and then follows me around the map for the rest of the game. When this happens there is honestly nothing you can really do. If you try to farm your jungle you get handicapped, if you try to gank you will more than likely die from being so far behind. If you are level 3 and they are level 5 or 6 they will just turn on you when you gank for an insta kill. All you can do is slowly farm what you can, go to lanes that are safe just to soak up exp, and if your team can't carry it then wait for the 20 minute mark to surrender, report, and move on.
: Block players without being their friends
Step 1: Click the gear to the left of the X on the top right of the client. Step 2: Go to "BLOCK LIST" Step 3: Type the summoner's name that you want to block in the area where it says "Summoner Name" Step 4: Click the "Block" button to the right of the area where you typed in the summoner's name. Step 5: Click "DONE" at the bottom under the list of summoners that you have blocked. Step 6: Upvote me. Following those steps makes it so you will no longer get requests from the person that you block.
: Nothing of that sort, got the chest reward for that game. Actually I had it happen on multiple accounts.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatFluffyTail,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=GzgyblTs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-08T07:03:10.779+0000) > > Nothing of that sort, got the chest reward for that game. > Actually I had it happen on multiple accounts. Odd, if you got the chest reward but it doesn't update - does it let you get the reward again or does it have the gold border on it?
: Higest season rank doesnt update
It doesn't update if you received an S while unable to get rewards due to getting in trouble, IE: Chat restriction, suspension, etc.
: Can we talk about Red Trinket?
"Shaco creates a Jack in the Box that hides from view after 2 seconds. It pops out when an enemy comes near **or when uncovered by a ward or trinket,** making nearby enemies flee very slowly for .5/.75/1.25/1.5 seconds It attacks deal 35/50/65/80/95 (+20%) ability power) magic damage. It lasts for 60 (+5% ability power) seconds while hidden or 5 seconds while firing." It does it for Shaco because that what is intended for his kit. Once his boxes are revealed they can't pop out any more, so they just pop out once revealed. It also fits with the idea of what they did. Now if they made a trinket that sucked things into the ground for 3 seconds then that would be an interesting counter to draven's axes if you aimed it right.
: Or your team can take their own farm that they get plenty more of and not take the junglers.... Shouldnt have to "hone" anything... Junglers who steal farm from lanes are just as guilty but if you take a junglers camp then they have every right to steal a wave or 2 of yours.... Its a team game for a reason. not every man for themselves.... if you couldnt farm well enough in your lane than thats your own fault
> [{quoted}](name=ImmaHappyPotato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m0duWM4G,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T03:58:28.899+0000) > > Or your team can take their own farm that they get plenty more of and not take the junglers.... Shouldnt have to "hone" anything... Junglers who steal farm from lanes are just as guilty but if you take a junglers camp then they have every right to steal a wave or 2 of yours.... Its a team game for a reason. not every man for themselves.... if you couldnt farm well enough in your lane than thats your own fault You can continue to think it is a team game is a solo Q environment, but it is not. You downvoted the legit solution to the poster's issue because you rather keep losing games doing what you think is right instead of doing what is actually right...
: I didnt realize you needed to time your jungle camps before teammates just start taking your only farm...
> [{quoted}](name=ImmaHappyPotato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m0duWM4G,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T03:50:36.833+0000) > > I didnt realize you needed to time your jungle camps before teammates just start taking your only farm... Yup, it is a skill you unfortunately need to hone.
: I Found a Rank 5 Honor Player Today
I bet there is a high correlation between that button being clicked and being on the losing team. Even if you are a great team mate, a good shot caller, tilt proof, etc, if your team loses the salt comes out and the button gets pushed. Winning games you can have toxic people on your team but at the end it will still, most of the time, say that everyone on your team honored someone.
Bagu (NA)
: Havent earned a Chest from S rank after over 5 games getting an S rank
You can only get the chest ONCE per champion per season. So in Season 7 you could only pick up Olaf's chest once. No matter how many more times you get an S on him it will not give another chest. Once Season 8 starts you can get a chest again. The best thing you can do is make friends with a few people that ALSO main champions good enough where they can regularly get an S with them. For instance, even in a bad game I can get at least an S- on my main. You take turns playing champs you don't have a chest on while 1 person takes a turn playing their main. If you are playing Olaf and your 4 friends are playing champs they don't have chests with you can get all of them chests with your S. Then the next game you can play something you don't have a chest with and 1 of them can play their main and pay you back. Makes chest grinding really easy.
: Give red/blue buff some sort of buff if you have a jungle item
The trick is to read the map and figure out what is going on. There will be times that are optimal for clearing and times that are optimal for ganking. If you constantly clear during the optimal times then your stuff won't really be up for your team to even take. If you are always having the problem of camps being stolen from your team mates that means you are missing your optimal clear times. The only times I see anyone take a camp are when I know I messed up and didn't clear when I should have.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thr34t,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJJ5JoFq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-08T03:19:36.930+0000) > > You have 4 in a row so far, my guess is you lose 1, POSSIBLY 2 more in a row and then you will win 1. This is stupid.... How is it possible to get better when you play against the same trash all day, and have the same trash on your own team?
> [{quoted}](name=CritDozer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJJ5JoFq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T03:22:04.419+0000) > > This is stupid.... How is it possible to get better when you play against the same trash all day, and have the same trash on your own team? I don't really know how it works. I know eventually people just get better if they learn and then the trash they get seems easy to carry against the trash they go against. When I first started this game I thought I was really good because I came from about 10 years of gaming experience, in shooters. By the time I hit mid silver I did my first smurf run, used a bronze 5 account that I used to learn new champs on ( always liked learning new champs in ranked rather than normals because match making is crap in normals ) and by the time I was mid silver bronze felt easyyyy. My games in silver felt kinda easy too but my team mates just seemed too bad to carry . **Season 2** Then eventually I hit mid gold and went on the smurf again, which at this point was back in bronze because it was the next season and I did all 10 placements playing champs I never played before in off roles. When I played any of my mains I was able to win the games regardless of my team mates, even if they AFKd. Bronze and Silver games both felt incredibly easy, regardless of what my team did. They didn't seem too bad to carry any more. My gold games now felt like how my silver games use to feel, if my team was shit I just couldn't do anything about it. **Season 3** Then eventually I hit Plat in** Season 4**. Went back on my smurf, at this point it placed in silver even playing champs I was terrible with. I was able to goof around on it and still grind it to mid gold with extreme ease. Even if I had an AFK or a troll it didn't seem to matter. My plat games still felt kinda easy but if I had really bad team mates it didn't seem to matter what I did. Then in **Season 5** I hit Diamond for the first time. My smurf placed in gold even when troll picking and playing off roles. When I played my mains on it I was able to walk through gold and plat pretty easily and gave myself a 2nd diamond account in the first season I hit diamond on my main. **Season 6** I was able to get diamond back again within a week of the season starting. I leveled a new account and did an unranked to plat to see how hard it would be, took me less than a week. I couldn't believe that the teams that I once had a hard time carrying were not able to do anything trolly enough to hold me back - and they seemed to try. **Season 7** pretty much feels like a repeat of season 6 so far except now I am working on expanding my champ pool. So moral of the story is that eventually you will get better and the teams you have now will feel like nothing compared to how hard you can stomp the enemy team. Eventually you will look back on these days and wonder what you were doing wrong. If you keep some gameplay recordings I'm sure you can go back and have a good laugh at some point. I luckily had a few recordings from each tier and when I hit diamond the first time I went over all of the recordings and couldn't believe how many opportunities to win I had in those games that felt unwinnable. **Edited to add in seasons
: Alright, thanks ill give it a try I've messed with OBS a little but haven't tried using it yet.
> [{quoted}](name=FreeKillsDaily,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=WxkiZGo5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T03:19:29.288+0000) > > Alright, thanks ill give it a try I've messed with OBS a little but haven't tried using it yet. OBS is great. Most people think it is only for streaming but it has a button for just recording as well.
: how many games in a row will i lose???
You have 4 in a row so far, my guess is you lose 1, POSSIBLY 2 more in a row and then you will win 1.
: Trying to learn about streaming and creating videos
I record with OBS and edit with movie maker.
IAmWoralo (EUW)
: Just a comparisson
Honestly, this game has really had balancing. While it is possible to win games with Evelynn it will take a lot more effort than winning games with Nunu. If all champions were balanced then it would not matter which champ you chose as long as it contributed to what the team needed and you were good with it. Right now there are certain champions that you can do really well with and they just won't win easily, especially if the enemy team chose a bunch of champs that are really strong right now. For instance, I am a Nocturne main. He is extremely weak right now because of the current champs that are strong in the current meta. Because of this I started to practice Zac a bit, just for fun. In games where I play Nocturne I have to play damn near perfectly to carry a game. Games I play with Zac, a champ I just started learning a couple of days ago, I can mess up again and again and still end up winning because he is currently very strong. Your best option is to get really good with a handful of champions and when your main is strong you spam that shit as much as you can. Once your main starts to get weak because of meta shifts then figure out what is strong in the current meta and have a few champions that can pick up the slack until your main becomes relevant again.
: > [{quoted}](name=magewick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eLAl632l,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-08T02:55:45.323+0000) > > You do realize that it is mathematically impossible for riot to intentionally give you bad teammates after win sprees without dramatically increasing your queue times right? Thats the way matchmaking is designed. When you are on a win streak you are going to get put into games that a near unwinnable. How exactly that works no one knows. But that is how matchmaking works. It doesnt create fair games.
> [{quoted}](name=zarxus1234,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eLAl632l,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T02:59:11.535+0000) > > Thats the way matchmaking is designed. When you are on a win streak you are going to get put into games that a near unwinnable. How exactly that works no one knows. But that is how matchmaking works. It doesnt create fair games. I heard this could be solved by playing League with a tinfoil hat on.
Elusiiv (NA)
: 🔒 Looking for a a carry
: Just had a jungler sit top all game with his duo.
At that point you only have a few options. You can try to push out your lane and roam mid with your ADC to try to pick up kills or you can try to trust your ADC to last hit under tower the best he can while you gank mid alone. If it is really bad you can just give up the lane and then it is easier for your ADC to freeze it and farm while you try to help mid. Eventually bot will roam mid also, so you want to hope you picked up something before this so your mid is a little strong to balance out the ADC that is a little weak. If the ADC does this right he will gain levels on the enemy bot lane with you ganking mid even if he doesn't get as much gold, so it balances it out a bit.
SaxonMan (NA)
: Matchmaking system needs an update.
They prioritize lower queue times over balanced games in normals. Just the other day I had a team of 2 golds and 2 unranked vs a team of 4 diamonds and a plat, it was a complete waste of time.. The only current solution is to make a smurf account to use to try out new champions. Smurfing on a ranked account will pretty much guarantee you a pretty balanced game in comparison to a normal game. The only downfall is having to level one.
: It's pretty much a truism that someone with the name "Diamond Smurf" (or similar) in Gold...
Probably true 95% of the time. Last season I had a smurf with the word Diamond in it because it was fun to stomp silver and golds while making it known that I was smurfing for the extra luls, so sometimes they could actually be Diamond smurfs. I ended up renaming that account because I got tired of people adding me for and begging for a boost, but I do have a smurfing club tag that I use when I want to smurf and scare people.
: I'm currently looking for a champ out of the jungle that can access and kill adc during teamfights.
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: Blitz, Tahm, and Mao are probably the ones that might work. I am a support main and I don't see Shen, Trundle, and Zac as a viable option, but maybe in other lanes.
> [{quoted}](name=Silentvicious,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K0AvovGU,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-04T21:38:26.820+0000) > > Blitz, Tahm, and Mao are probably the ones that might work. I am a support main and I don't see Shen, Trundle, and Zac as a viable option, but maybe in other lanes. They are unconventional but actually used in higher ranks as supports. They each provide something to a team that is possibly missing an element needed for team fighting. Trundle and Zac are both bully supports while shen is a situational utility support.
Nhifu (NA)
: Gold 5-4 long queue times
MMR is the only factor when it comes to finding matches in ranked. Being in Gold 5 means you have pretty much the same MMR as most Silver 2s to Gold 3s so you will get matched with that range. The only difference between Season 1 / Season 2's MMR system and now is the fact that the MMR number is hidden and we get a badge instead which shows the upper end of our rank for the season. I think before Gold started at like 1500 MMR. If someone had 1501 MMR they would be afraid to play because a single loss would put them into Silver tier rewards. Now it is possible to maintain being Gold 5 but have 1350 MMR which is around Silver 4.
: For example?
> [{quoted}](name=Silentvicious,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K0AvovGU,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-07-04T18:30:21.973+0000) > > For example? Thresh, Sion, Blitz, Shen, Mao, Trundle, Tahm, and Zac. These are all champs that could be played as supports, be built full tank, and still be dish out a ton of damage.
: this happened to me in my promos. waiting on your response .
> [{quoted}](name=Pavlo Voronych,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=501s1ihn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-04T20:03:03.755+0000) > > this happened to me in my promos. > > waiting on your response . Promos is a whole different topic. I think in promos we should be allowed one free dodge without any penalty. The promo system is already stressful enough as it is. Having a game where you are in promos, especially for a tier, is greatly influenced by trolls. If there is an obvious troll in champ select and you are in promos for a tier there is probably not a worst feeling when it comes to ranked play. When it comes to games outside of promos then I stick to 3 LP and 6 minutes being nothing to cry about.
: Who is the best leashing Champion?
The currently broken champs are the ones that can build pretty much full tank but still do carry damage due to op abilitites.
: why do i get banned?
Pretty crummy deal. I looked up the kass and they inted even harder in the next game going 0-15-2.
: Smurfing in low silver
As you improve you will find 1v9ing in lower ranks easier and easier. Once i hit gold 5 I started to smurf to fet a feel for my improvenent. I remember having mid silver games that felt impossible. I did it sgain when I hit plat 5 and silver games were a joke and 1v9able but by high gold the games were rough. Did it again when I hit diamond the first time and again, ganes were jokingly easy until hitting a divisions from main rank. There is no elo hell. Games just feel rough if you are within half a tier from your rank. If you play on a smurf and games are hard 2 tiers down when playing your main role then you need to be open to the possibility that you are not able to play at your highest rank consistently.
: I would like to see the community perspective on my Ban
These are the messages that I would auto-ban you over. > Papa Nooks: im afk > Papa Nooks: u two fucks are stupid > Papa Nooks: ARE U THAT MENTALLY NOT CAPABLE OF NO FEEDING > Papa Nooks: good job u fucking ape > Papa Nooks: STFU U DUMB FUCKIGN N word > Papa Nooks: i hope u get fucking aids > Papa Nooks: ok %%%got > Papa Nooks: u fucking ape > Papa Nooks: lol ur autistic > Papa Nooks: u really want me to run it down mid' > Papa Nooks: ur autistic > Papa Nooks: 100% twelve yearsw old prob running a fucking 2 inch > Papa Nooks: dont listen to him hes autisctc > Papa Nooks: brand > Papa Nooks: u want a kill > Papa Nooks: who wants a kill > Papa Nooks: cause ill walk down mid again > Papa Nooks: rather get ban and take ur lp at same time > Papa Nooks: im throwing this game since this guys a %%%got
: I would like to see the community perspective on my Ban
Yea, you deserve it. I also want to point out that in the game where you were Jhin and talking down to your team mates about feeding fizz, you did extremely poorly that game. You shouldn't judge your team mates so harshly unless you are playing top notch yourself, and even then it should be advice giving not trash talking. You did 12.6k damage as jhin. The ekko did pretty good going 10-4-111 and did 26.2k damage. The Kindred as a jungler did 21.8k damage, the ziggs went 9-9-12 and did 31k damage. As an ADC you had legit no damage at all, it looks like you spent more of the game flaming than you did actually playing. On top of this, you only had 11k damage. They died more than you but had more gold than you. That means even with their higher amount of deaths they still managed to level and gain gold better than you. In a 33 minute game you only had 155 CS. You clearly were not playing to win, you were playing to scapegoat your loss on the team mates that were having harsh games while they were playing to win. I'm telling you right now, after you make a new account, don't trash talk your team mates. Sometimes they end up being a shit ton better than you but you just don't have the game knowledge to understand it yet. Good luck on your next account. PS: You talked down to people that were bronze because you were silver 4. You quickly dropped down to silver 5 0 LP and actually have bronze MMR. Is it not ironic to you that you talked down to people that were literally playing at the same skill level as you? The only difference between a silver 5 0 LP and a Bronze 1/2, even 3 is just placement luck.
: Why is my flex ranking what appears on my profile?
Yea I honestly cannot figure out why it picks Flex for some people and Solo for others. Mine personally shows my Solo Q, but I have a lot of friends that are showing their Flex instead, and in pretty much all of the cases their Solo is higher. At the very least there should be an option to change which is displayed.
Rioter Comments
: what were ADCs like early on in league?
Early on in league any role was capable of snowballing and carrying a game.
: Trolls in Solo Queue
3 LP and 6 minutes isn't that bad.
: How hard is twitch jg
He is pretty fun but if you are looking to pick up an off meta ADC jungler I would do Quinn over twitch. Early game your clear is kinda crap with both so you need to make ganking a priority. If you aren't good at pulling off ganks with them early on then you won't do great with them. Once you have items you can pretty much just power farm and invade with both and just demolish the enemy jungler. Once really fed you can just make picks to force 5v4s. That is the typical play style you want with those 2 champs.
: Really hate getting matched with high tier low mmr ppl.
If you win your promo game you will more than likely skip from Gold 4 to Gold 2 and then you will be around what your MMR is. Most of your games you get matched with Gold 2 - Gold 1 with the occasional low elo or duod low plat. The best thing you can do is stop looking at lolnexus or similar sites that tell you your team's ranks if it just tilts you. Outside of duos everyone in the game is going to be at around the same skill level on both teams so as long as you keep positively influencing the game you will win more than you lose. When your skill level is way above that of the rank you are playing against then what your team mates do means very little. Once you start to feel that you need your team mates to do 'something' to contribute to the win you will be pretty much within a few divisions of your true skill level / rank. Like lets say for instance your skill level is Plat 5, if you go vs Bronze and silver you can pretty much build and play like a troll and your team can feed but you will still carry because of the skill difference. Vs low gold it will still feel incredibly easy but you might have to play somewhat serious. By Gold 3 you will have to start building correctly and playing correctly but you will still win much more than lose, and then by Gold 2 / Gold 1 it will feel like you need to somewhat organize your team so that they can help with the victory. If you are Diamond 5 then it is pretty much the same except you can troll build / troll play until Plat 3 and then by Plat 2 / Plat 1 you have to start trying and organizing your team. This is why when you see challengers do their smurf unranked to master climbs they are pretty much just messing around until about Diamond 3, they will pick unconventional things and play pretty trolly but until they get to D2 / D1 it will just feel like a stomp.
: This is the most common misconception about the grading system: Your grade has nothing to do with how your teammates performed, it does not compare your damage to champions against that of your team, instead it compares your performance against other players of the same champion in the same role. So you are being compared to other Kayle players that went jungle. An A+ indicates that your performance was well above average but it was not among the best when averaged against others.
> [{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nr3x43F9,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-03T02:28:26.897+0000) > > This is the most common misconception about the grading system: > > Your grade has nothing to do with how your teammates performed, it does not compare your damage to champions against that of your team, instead it compares your performance against other players of the same champion in the same role. So you are being compared to other Kayle players that went jungle. An A+ indicates that your performance was well above average but it was not among the best when averaged against others. Yea I am not saying that it compares it to the other people in the game, I was just pointing out that his damage was ridiculously low. As a kayle jungle in a 23 minute game with that many kills he should have had about double the damage that he had. Based on the amount of kills he had and the amount of damage he did it is obvious that he only really hit people a few times for the kills/assists that he got. Per kill contribution he did pretty bad. He was involved in 14 kills but only had about 7k damage. So even if every time he hurt a champion it led to a kill it would mean he only did 500 damage each time. Kayle is a high DPS champ, so even in jungle, which I have played her many times before, it is easy to stack up damage dealt because it is easy to walk around the map and just throw down damage with her Q and E.
: A+...... This system needs a rework
KDA has VERY little to do with the rank. You were 9-1-5 but you had almost half of the damage dealt compared to your team. Cleaning up kills won't give you a good rating. You had 7.3k damage The singed had 12.8k The LB had 13.9k The lucian had 12.9k It looks like you really didn't do any damage compared to how much you should have had which is a big factor. You had around the same amount of damage as the enemy jungler that went 1-6-2 ( he had 6.3k damage ). Gank more, even if it doesn't lead to a kill - just put down damage or blow summoners and you will get S a lot more often.
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: Can we have demotion games
I honestly like this idea. Then for instance, if someone was Silver 3 0 LP and about to drop into Silver 4 60-75 LP, instead of having the 60-75LP if they lose the 2 out of 3 they just drop to Silver 4 0 LP with a 2 or 3 game grace before the next demotion. It would make the system feel more fair since we have to jump through hoops with the promo games.
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