Arammus (EUW)
: i could blame riot saying "the game is decided in 15min" but that wouldnt be fair. even back then when games took 30-40min and it usually came down to adcs having 5-6 items and a teamfight, people surrenderd right away. many just dont have this mindset. some people can play a ragegame and stay calm 24/7 while others flip their keyboard and smash their screen in the first time something goes wrong. its humans.
> [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xt5bOmPU,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2018-11-28T03:14:38.057+0000) > > i could blame riot saying "the game is decided in 15min" but that wouldnt be fair. > even back then when games took 30-40min and it usually came down to adcs having 5-6 items and a teamfight, people surrenderd right away. > many just dont have this mindset. > > some people can play a ragegame and stay calm 24/7 while others flip their keyboard and smash their screen in the first time something goes wrong. > > its humans. Dude you are a hero haha well said, i still don't understand tho :/
rujitra (NA)
: Let's be honest. Many of the players in this game are of an age group that refuse to accept statistics. They think that if they aren't winning, there is no chance of winning. I've come back from games that had both my Nexus turrets and three inhibs destroyed. Games aren't lost until the Nexus falls. Period.
: > [{quoted}](name=LıghtSleeper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xt5bOmPU,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-27T18:09:00.665+0000) > > Thanks for the reply bud. > > When i talk about 5050, i talk about the chances when the number of games tends to infinity, just like any stats on champions etc. You can't feel it for real in game, but in the end the 5050 rule is there (: I really dont think its 5050 you have to force your team to be fed enough so that even an ape could win the game out of pure damage and you have to annoy your team into doing objectives almost 80 percent of the time as a jungler. Unless you have a lucky account nothing is 5050
Thanks for the reply bud, You are right when you say nothing is 5050. My point is it TENDS toward 5050 the more games you play. if you have more than that you'll climb since you have the ability to carry your games, wich is superb. When you'll stall in ranked this is where the 5050 will stand. Also i'm saying this because some players can go far enough to saying GG when they give up first blood... It is a shame really
Namîste (NA)
: I hate surrendering because I have come back from almost losing and I've almost one 4v5s because enemy teams just trolled because they assumed it was a free win, but there are just times when your team just can't play from behind (or won't) and just go in and die over and over again...
Yep you are exactly on my point there when you said ''(Or won't)'' I just can't understand it...
: because the game is less fun now also nothing is 5050 in this game, lets be real, you dont get a 5050 chance of a good player who is better than the other laner on your team its hard to enjoy the only thing keeping me playing and making new accounts is the spirit of competition which has nothing to do with the game and an addiction to a familiar setting, thats it. Otherwise I would be playing dota or whatever. It is a better game afterall {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Thanks for the reply bud. When i talk about 5050, i talk about the chances when the number of games tends to infinity, just like any stats on champions etc. You can't feel it for real in game, but in the end the 5050 rule is there (:
Namîste (NA)
: The only time I will fully give up and surrender is when I 100% know that we have no way of coming back. Like the one game I played and our mid laner was 0/12? Wasn't ranked or anything but the mid laner who just fed the enemy Ekko over and over again wouldn't even hug tower...she'd die mid lane. There was no coming back from that point especially when she would just repeat over and over again
> [{quoted}](name=Namîste,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xt5bOmPU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-27T17:48:14.916+0000) > > The only time I will fully give up and surrender is when I 100% know that we have no way of coming back. Like the one game I played and our mid laner was 0/12? Wasn't ranked or anything but the mid laner who just fed the enemy Ekko over and over again wouldn't even hug tower...she'd die mid lane. > There was no coming back from that point especially when she would just repeat over and over again Believe it or not your judgment is not absolute. There are games that have come back from 10k+ gold lead and more. It is these games that can make a difference if you are in series or making into one. Your true win rate is when you never give up. Then you'll know what you can do and from where you can lead... Thanks for the reply tho i apppreciate it
: > [{quoted}](name=LıghtSleeper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xt5bOmPU,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-27T17:42:36.354+0000) > -There is 3 lanes in the game > -All 3 of them have, in general, 50% chance of winning their lane excluding jungle > - Your jungler, in general, also have 50% chance to be more impactful in the game than the other jungler False. counter picks lower the chance of winning a lane. eg darius vs gangplank. darius already has the stronger lvl 1 which means the gp ends up playing passive and losing farm. jungle comes top and fails a gank giving a double kill and double buffs to darius allowing him to sustain longer in lane along with dealing more dmg gaining lvl and exp lead. top lane is now over the darius is free to do wahtever he wants. he can roam mid and kill hte mid. now mid is lost bc they got first tower giving gold and exp advantage to mid, smae thing for botside. would you say thats a winnable game?? no its better to just go next at that point and move on
> [{quoted}](name=ArandomCanadain,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xt5bOmPU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-27T17:48:25.690+0000) > > False. counter picks lower the chance of winning a lane. eg darius vs gangplank. darius already has the stronger lvl 1 which means the gp ends up playing passive and losing farm. jungle comes top and fails a gank giving a double kill and double buffs to darius allowing him to sustain longer in lane along with dealing more dmg gaining lvl and exp lead. top lane is now over the darius is free to do wahtever he wants. he can roam mid and kill hte mid. now mid is lost bc they got first tower giving gold and exp advantage to mid, smae thing for botside. would you say thats a winnable game?? no its better to just go next at that point and move on You are right about counter picks BUT is also STRONGLY depends on the player playing the champ. My point is: it is still going to tend towards 50%. In this spirit camebacks are always possible if the ennemy is making a mistake. The more long is the game, easier are the combacks. You can't win a fight? Try to stall... etc. There is always hope when nexus is not down and it is where you should take it as a challenge and try. If you don't make the most out of it then the whole game is a waste. Thanks for the reply, i appreciate it!!
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cabbysb (NA)
: There is hardly any strategy in this game anymore
I do agree that games are now shorter since the snowball damage is becoming stronger. I dislike it because right now it is mostly 1) you hard win a game or 2) you get crushed. There is no in between where 2 team are equal and need to strategize. What i am saying is that it is harder to stop a snowball than ever. This has many impacts on the game itself: 1) Games are shorter in general 2) Small leads early tends to snowball uncontrolably for the other team 3) If you are not a tank your game might feel bad since even a tank fed can 1shot you AND 4) IS THE REASON I DISLIKE IT SO MUCH: PEOPLE TEND TO GIVE UP EARLIER THAN THEY ALREADY DID since they know snowball is harder to stop than before. People in general tend to give up when they are not in a winning position (wich in the end could happen 50% of the time) So right now it is either you crush them or you get crushed This also brings an other shovel of negativity in games in general (wich this game had more than enough before)
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> [{quoted}](name=A Bad Varus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=86IW75Qs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-12T23:27:15.302+0000) > > What could possibly go wrong? It's my point, it could be fun!
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