: Jup, and the reworks too. Pantheon has me really excited actually.
I’m looking forward to Panth, but Mordekaiser has made me very happy after losing Aatrox
: Yes, Shen and Zed are admittedly an iconic rivalry in League of Legends and it might be fun to see them battle. But like Hikari Sakata pointed out in VoidKarmas thread, the VS event would be extremely onesided. Zed is _incredibly_ more popular than Shen, there is no doubt that he would win the event by a landslide. And while this rivalry is iconic, there are tons of other rivalries in the game which are also just as iconic: {{champion:112}} VS {{champion:126}} {{champion:51}} / {{champion:254}} VS {{champion:222}} {{champion:107}} VS {{champion:121}} {{champion:131}} VS {{champion:89}} (they are not really rivals anymore, but the community wants it) {{champion:516}} VS {{champion:106}} {{champion:120}} VS {{champion:429}} {{champion:236}} VS {{champion:412}} {{champion:58}} VS {{champion:75}} {{champion:25}} VS {{champion:10}} {{champion:19}} VS {{champion:27}} {{champion:39}} / {{champion:6}} VS {{champion:50}} {{champion:154}} VS {{champion:29}} {{champion:113}} VS {{champion:22}} VS {{champion:127}} {{champion:268}} VS {{champion:101}} And there are probably more, these are just the pairings which came to my mind immediately.
{{champion:240}} vs{{champion:240}}
: Star Guardians Wanted!
May I join? I have Lux
Vartius (EUNE)
: New icon featuring Morde on PBE
Hyped! I don't play top often, but hopefully new Morde changes that
: Ight, Time to get Downvoted :)
: Guinsoo's is not broken. Phantom Hits is what breaks this game. It broke Sated Devourer and now it broke Guinsoo's. Phantom Hits need to go and pre Tiamat effect Guinsoo's needs to comeback.
I feel like I was the only one that liked the tiamat effect on old guinsoos
Meddler (NA)
: He'll get some work still, whether as a larger balance change or as one of the smaller number of larger functionality changes we'll still be doing. Will share details whenever I've got some to share.
If you're going to do functionality changes, what would some of those be?
: Spear of Shojin is strong a lot of champions, so it's not just Renekton that's the problem here. Honestly, it needs to be changed to its Nexus Blitz version, where it was a Defensive item. There's no satisfying way to keep Essence Flare in the game.
Similar to phantom hit: too strong on some, not used as well, if at all, on others. Riot needs to do a QoL nerf and change what phantom hit applies to, tbh.
: What are your thoughts on the Aatrox Rework and the current state of Aatrox?
I'm heavily biased because while I wasn't the most devoted Aatrox main, I did pick him whenever I went top, as a go-to pick. I don't know what the old lore was supposed to say about Aatrox, but to me it seemed like he was supposed to inspire soldiers to continue fighting, like a diver would do: go in first, and encourage people to follow (given that it was a good idea to go in). I kind of wanted Aatrox to be a sort of AD support, someone who could grant healing if you kept the offensive, but didn't have to go full damage and could be durable, and had a kit that encouraged the buddy system or else some of his stuff wouldn't work (like Leona passive). Then again, I'm probably the only one that thought that would be cool, and work with what his lore sort of represented, and I guess Riot wanted him to go in a different direction as well, and wielding a "massive blade with grace and poise" "in a style that was hypnotic to behold" wasn't a part of that. I'm upset that Aatrox got the Zoe treatment and got everything shoved into one ability. Didn't they learn that it's hard to balance a champion when everything is only in one ability and the other three are meant to assist in landing that single ability? I'm probably preaching a bunch of bull because I didn't play Aatrox much, but when he got his mini-rework, I was happy with where he was. Obviously not the best since Guinsoo's made him considerably stronger, but still, there was thinking required when you had to switch between healing and damage forms, as well as keeping the passive full to gain the full bonuses and have the revive ready. I don't have that playstyle anymore, and it's upsetting. I don't know what the numbers were for Aatrox before he was meta prerework, what they were while he was popular prerework, or even what to compare to now, he just doesn't give me that same appeal anymore and I don't have that desire to learn how to play the new Aatrox, or what to build for items/runes. I'm too biased to give a good assessment of new Aatrox, I'm just sad and upset.
WardMyBüsh (EUNE)
: support montage (Rakan)
That intro was so soothing
Kadexe (NA)
: Here's a super simple idea inspired by Varus' W - what if instead of increasing his movement speed, casting W empowered his next R cast to explode automatically after landing? Sort of like a grenade toss. That opens up a lot of possibilities for his gameplay.
Dude, that would be rad if you could chuck a mushroom like a grenade and it exploded upon landing
Riot Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback, part 2
My opinions in order of how often I think about it: 1. Why change everything but the W - "Move Quick"? This is the one ability that is the most lack luster, and comparably less useful than Miss Fortune's new W (which I'm assuming is maxed second), because MF gains attack speed, resets her strut, and cooldown gets reduced when you proc Love Tap. Move Quick only grants a small percent bonus to his movement speed where Strut gives more movement speed, up to 100 at max rank. If Teemo's W was changed to be a passive effect (like Strut) and moved somewhere else, then you could give him a different ability that had farther range or some other utility that helped him be useful if he couldn't get into range with his Q or auto attacks, or if he wasn't able to throw a shroom. You know, like a flare/flashbang type of thing to be more scout like. 2. I get that his passive attack speed being more accessible and more on demand in approaching a fight or in the middle of one as opposed to having to stand still warrants some power taken out/moved around (like giving him more damage if he directly contributes damage to a fight through his auto attacks), but at the same time, why did you reduce not only the base damage, but also the ratios? I don't know what build/role you're trying to push him into, or if you're just trying to switch some things up, but "overall damage down a bit... make room for teemo moving while invisible" seems a little much, not to mention you pulled a Sona and upped the mana cost while also lowering the damage in both places. I can understand the R, but maybe the Q should've kept the AP ratio. 3. I'm glad you kept the invisible. I would've understood the camouflage if his E was closer to Twitch's Q or Pyke's W, but the previous iteration was not fun at all with the self slow, especially when compared to the other abilities which actually speed you up. It's not like Evelynn passive, or Rengar R, and even comparing to the other camouflage/invisibility spells, none of them slow you down. They all give some sort of bonus or utility. Not really an opinion or complaint, but where do you guys at Riot (or just the people working on Teemo or in the balance/rework team) want Teemo to go, and what are you balancing him around in terms of opponents and build paths? Is he balanced as a ranged top laner or are you simply balancing him around certain situational strong points (like more Toxic Shot damage if the enemy currently has any poison effect on him) and then seeing where that goes? Also, when is he going to get a model update like Morgana? Thanks for all of your hard work, Riot Jag.
SirLapse (NA)
: So uh about that Teemo rework...
reworked everything but the W, feels bad
: >Since Ranged top is almost always a weaker Composition. It's likely a lot of this. You murder your teamcomp if you take a ranged top. You have a squishy, easy to gank champion designed to be in a duo lane that's in a solo lane. Yeah, they can abuse a good portion of the roster because of their range advantage, but they're going to die in basically any gank, and they're going to die if they're against someone they *can't* abuse. And then come later in the game, you have no teamfighting power because you have no durable champions and they picked at least one assassin.
: "We're unable to log you in because you may be offline" - Not Letting Me Log In
Moody P (NA)
: Possible Wits End/Zephyr rework
Jax is going to have fun with this
: > [{quoted}](name=TonyTonyMordecai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9oVyTKkv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-07T17:27:00.254+0000) > > My friend mains Tahm, he is certainly not a troll then why did he eat you and flash into enemy team? HMM? I didn't watch any replays but i'm 90% sure he's done it at least 12 times
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9oVyTKkv,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-07T18:28:29.845+0000) > > then why did he eat you and flash into enemy team? HMM? > I didn't watch any replays but i'm 90% sure he's done it at least 12 times I only ended up back into the enemies who were chasing us because my cursor was pointing towards them, but he tries to eat allies to same them if he can. Half the time he flashes in to go aggressive.
: Is there a single tahm kench main who isn't a troll ?
My friend mains Tahm, he is certainly not a troll
: "So won't making Kayle be this powerful late game be kind of hard to balance?"
Dude, Relic shield Kayle with a Lulu down bot lane might work out to some degree, or even a mage support (Morgana could wok fine too) to make up for the damage that Kayle doesn't have yet... You might be on to something here
: klepto is a mistake in general. it gives EVERY ranged champion an advantage in EVERY lane there was a thing lately where riot changed how Spell-thief worked (again...) because someone could run spellthief and klepto and farm more than a dedicated farmer... and yet it was klepto that was the issue. random 12 - 120 gold is not okay
It was great on supports (maybe not great, but it had its moments), but thankfully every other champion had to ruin it
: It will make him more effective in lane than he already is, but change little about his teamfight capabilities I expect ADC Teemo to become more common now It's a nice change to a mediocre passive, but I don't see much point in this without, as you said, giving him a better W.
> [{quoted}](name=Trolosaurus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=B8IEGABT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-06T01:23:59.198+0000) > > It will make him more effective in lane than he already is, but change little about his teamfight capabilities > I expect ADC Teemo to become more common now > It's a nice change to a mediocre passive, but I don't see much point in this without, as you said, giving him a better W. True, I was just talking about it to one of my friends, and I currently play him as a "marksman" (since I'm too scared to go top) and build him burst oriented with dark harvest (maximizing the mushrooms) and the recent few games I maxed E first instead of my originally proposed Q max for poke and such. Getting Runann's with my normal burst build wouldn't be too bad of an idea since it'll help maximize damage in team fights if I get good shroom detonations off of most of them
: Cats once conquered the world, now they conquer our game
"It's all in me head, it's all in me head..."
Rioter Comments
MaxJT (NA)
: I have enough of this game!
: Zoe... Now Who Else?
Sylas has pretty good mobility if you want to try him, but I'm personally a fan of Veigar and Vladimiir
: The Official Rules of League of Legends
I broke rule 2 and 41, I love Teemo to death, and as a replacement marksman. The blind and the shrooms are so useful in teamfights (combined with dark harvest)
Corvin0716 (EUNE)
: [Removed by Moderation] Moderators
That post you mentioned got edited about 30-40 minutes ago (by the time of me writing this comment). Yeah. Pretty ridiculous. I mean, I don't think you were out of line in the comment you mentioned getting deleted, but in my opinion, it could've been worded differently.
: Favorite Starters from each gen thread.
For me: 1. Squirtle 2. Cyndaquil 3. Mudkip (first pokemon ever) 4. Turtwig (Torterra is the bomb) 5. (I didn't really like gen 5) 6. Froakie (Greninja is my favorite evolution) 7. Rowlet (he's cute, and his final form is rad) 8. Sobble (gives me a Mudkip vibe, I just hope his final evolution is cool) I unfortunately go for looks half the time in pokemon, I can't help it.
: there's a reason they made the teemo laugh obnoxious...
But you can do endless backflips with his astronaut skin if you time his laugh right
: teemo is the most op champ in the game, explanation inside.
That's true. But it's more of a reality with his Omega Squad skin, and I love him even more
: > [{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ApTEofvg,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-01T09:51:08.080+0000) > > "hes never getting nerfed" > -Picked = he needs a nerf > -Banned = he needs a nerf > -Hard feed = he needs a nerf > -Hard carry = he needs a nerf > > So to you no matter how strong yasuo is he needs a nerf. Whether hes carrying or feeding. He needs a rework. The champion is so dumb. The only people who like yasuo is the person playing him. His teammates hate him, his enemies hate him. 10% of people in a yasuo game want him there. Except 80% of these guys are feeding. Sonits like 2%
To be fair, I like Yasuo because of his concept and everything about him, but his gameplay is annoying to deal with. I don't play him often (or at all for that matter) because my play style doesn't fit with how you have to play as Yasuo.
: True lmao If u voted for something other than candy trist ur a bad person.
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AWFtMOrP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-01T15:47:15.917+0000) > > why would you play a boring champion if you wanted to have fun Because **I** find him fun. Fun when I can play some 1v1 brusier-style matchups against any melee champions ranging from Darius to Yasuo players, instead of going against a bunch of sissies bringing some abusive-range top lane champions because **they forgot how to main their original lane**.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AWFtMOrP,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-01T15:53:00.225+0000) > > Because **I** find him fun. Fun when I can play some 1v1 brusier-style matchups against any melee champions ranging from Darius to Yasuo players, instead of going against a bunch of sissies bringing some abusive-range top lane champions because **they forgot how to main their original lane**. Shen is rad. Though I became a Yorick man after the defensive items took a hit. Just something about having the goon squad leap into battle that is somewhat satisfying.
Riot Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback
Do you think this makes him a better choice as a replacement ADC, or as a jungler?
: Arclight Brand - WHO MADE THIS, RIOT?
This is a really badass Brand skin, but since I got vandal Brand from hextech chests, I use that one just for the loading screen art lol
: > [{quoted}](name=feintfiend,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Zp5yRAxZ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-20T15:51:13.934+0000) > > What are these weaknesses? Her weakness is she loses lane to kennen like every other champion. (Sarcastic voice here) No. She doesn’t have any weaknesses. If the riven player is even decent at her, she doesn’t have any. Her weakness is entirely dependent on the person player her.
Is kennen really that bad? Or are people just complaining for complaining sake?
: My biggest problem is how she kills you instantly WHILE YOU'RE STILL CC'd and she can do this with bruiser items no lethality at all. She just flashes and its a garuanteed kill. Also her shield is waaaay too big for a supposedly "squishy" champ.
It's the problem of an assassin ish character but having a shield that scales off their main stat (attack damage), while the characters meant to shield can't even shield that often or for that much. (I could be wrong and completely biased in my statement, but I'd love to discuss it if I am)
: Didn’t even realize how rare Silver Kayle was until I read this post. That gorgeous new splash made me so excited to buy it and try it out for myself in game. It’s her coolest looking one now after the VGU. RIP. Riot pls {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Riot Kayle is looking pretty good too... But some of the particles aren't recolored/modified to fit the theme, but eh, I like it (though I miss the police lights that came on whenever E was active, they should bring it back)
: "Sex sells" is legitimate as long as it does not hinder character identity/theme/coherence
I think it's detrimental, since, in my opinion, Aether Wing Kayle was meant to be the "attractive feminine Kayle" skin, and the base one was the judicator badass angel. I personally don't know how you can deliver justice when you're barely wearing any armor.
: Kayle face needs some work
That may be because of model perspective (above angle stuff) and looking at it from a grounded perspective makes it look weird. But I do agree, the face could use some work
: > [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ztZ0VOkM,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-02-18T18:50:08.927+0000) > > You associate feminity with hotness only. As if there are no such thing as majestic feminity, stirct feminity, valorous feminity or cunning feminity. If a woman has a curvy shape and you can see the outline of her breasts, you will treat her as sexy character and nothing else. So, a woman has to look "manly" to be taken as anything else i.e. masculine look is inherently superior from your point of view. I mean compare the original Kayle armor: https://www.leagueofpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Classic-Kayle-Splash-Art-Old-league_of_papers.jpg Nothing about this was feminine. You could easily mistake this for a male. I also know that a few people were thrown for a loop when they realized Kayle was actually a woman. It was also pretty practical and heavy armor. Now, that said, let's compare the current splash art. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141013221114/leagueoflegends/images/7/7f/Kayle_OriginalSkin.jpg More feminine, for sure, but also some practicality. Note that the chest plate has a piece in the center between her breasts so its more uniform throughout and solid. Note that despite there being a "bodysuit" underneath, Kayle is about 80-85% armor. She's got heavy plate. Despite the two designs being very different, they still both sell the fantasy of "Heavy armor angel warrior". https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533737728005898240/547124528405282836/image0.jpg The current/Reworked Kayle _is_ a sexual design. Her hips are wide. Coloration and design draw your eyes to both her breasts and her hips/thighs. There's zero mistaking this person for a woman. And, as pointed out in OP, when Kayle gains more power she loses armor. There's really nothing majestic, graceful or cunning in her design. Sona is majestic. LeBlanc is cunning. etc etc. Kayle doesn't look like any of these. For a character that was originally an armored angel, she does not sell anyone on the design of being an armored angle. > People have been giving Kyle shit for "boob armor" even before the rework, although she was a heavenly magical being that never adhered to any mortal standards of safety and the overall design of her armor was meant to show the knight-like idealism and righteousness, but once she has been reworked I hear that she was just like "Samus Aran" (and as if Samus Aran doesn't get shit for being an attractive woman in a skin-tight suit under that armor). > > Right now there are more means to convey this in her movements, the way she flies and uses her swords. For sure, there always were, but there weren't nearly as many. Kayle's redeseigned splash art got criticism but she was still Kayle. This rework could have also been a chance to give her some heavier, more fancy knight armor. You could have done a great job of keeping her armor as-is or even further the ideal of giving her heavy, non-feminine armor and (as you say yourself) do a better job of selling who she is through her movements and animations, be they feminine or not. Instead we have a low-armor bodysuit that loses armor the more she fights/grows stronger, which is counterproductive to the narrative trying to be sold here of a badass angel warrior. To sum up the flaw in your argument: People give _Zero Suit Samus_ shit. Nobody gives *Samus* shit. Samus is still awesome and people love her design. Not as many people are a fan of Samus getting rocket high heels and a skintight bodysuit. And again: This is fine for a character who started out as such, like Bayonetta who wears her sexiness on her sleeve and flaunts it. It's not quite as fine for a character who is tough, powerful and doesn't care about being sexy suddenly having big mommy hips.
I agree with the bodysuit thing with Kayle. It just doesn't... look _right_ on her. Especially when you have quotes like "who's next?" and "into the fray!" made her really cool to play as and gave off a Samus vibe (since you mention it I do see that). But I can't get over the whole thing where her base form is almost as packed as an ultimate skin, and I miss the full armor. It's gonna be hard to make aether wing worth the legendary price tag without making it borderline ultimate skin tier... that's mostly what I'm worried about, and too often we've had reworked champ skins go from best to worst and vice versa (infernal akali is best example, some of irelia's skins too)
Quáx (NA)
: I got rejected
Yikes... Sorry to hear about that. I'm sure he'll recover and things will return to normal sooner or later.
: I've held off creating this thread for too long... The Day Riot invited me to Playtest Mordekaiser
I guess I'll return to play Yorick and new Mordekaiser when that happens. Hopefully the other issues in the game would be fixed by then, but I'm as excited as you about the rework!
: I Miss Teambuilder
In all seriousness, I did miss it. It was a good way to guarantee getting a champ and position. I also missed the few times I had all five positions top lane or mid lane and then did some hilarious strategy. Honestly the best of times when people were super chill about it and worked as a team, even when we were all randoms.
: I remember trying Karthus jg months ago and being called a troll. Now it's meta and I get called a meta slave when I play it {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=e85ERpIc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T18:32:01.419+0000) > > I'd throw up in my mouth and I play Lux. But don't you want a Prestige version of every current and future Lux skin? Tell me with a straight face you wouldn't buy them. Now tell me with a straight face that too few people would buy them for Riot to justify producing and releasing them.
Star Guardian Lux is the only skin I need But I wouldn't doubt that Riot would try that
: Glad you guys enjoyed it, I have been smiling all day reading the feedback on reddit and youtube, means a lot to me that I was able to connect with so many players. I had a blast writing the script and trying to make it fun and then recording it, couldn't have done it right without all the rioters that gave me feedback and the team that did all the awesome video production. I really wish I had more time to jump on the boards and reddit more often to talk to you guys, but someone has to make sure we make that Ivern skin, I had to show the team the Ivern champ spotlight 3 full times before they actually believed that he was a real champion in the game! Kidding aside, thanks for your support, and looking forward to give you all a ton of killer skins this year! {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
> [{quoted}](name=I am Carlos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t0HZpOtI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-28T04:16:38.774+0000) > > Glad you guys enjoyed it, I have been smiling all day reading the feedback on reddit and youtube, means a lot to me that I was able to connect with so many players. > > I had a blast writing the script and trying to make it fun and then recording it, couldn't have done it right without all the rioters that gave me feedback and the team that did all the awesome video production. > > I really wish I had more time to jump on the boards and reddit more often to talk to you guys, but someone has to make sure we make that Ivern skin, I had to show the team the Ivern champ spotlight 3 full times before they actually believed that he was a real champion in the game! > > Kidding aside, thanks for your support, and looking forward to give you all a ton of killer skins this year! > > {{sticker:sg-kiko}} You give off such a good vibe! I'm glad I still enjoy League for the art and champs.
darkdill (NA)
: Should there be at least one tank item with a "Negate X Lethality" effect?
Would be like an aura thing like {{item:3110}} or like {{item:3143}} where it's a unique passive on the wearer?
: Some thoughts on Demacia's magic problem
The discussion here is so chill, I should hang around this part of the boards more often
: Riot Maxw3ll https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ajbmrf/ranked_normal_and_rotating_gameplay_in_season/eeuwrfq?utm_source=reddit-android
Cool! I look forward to seeing the new support
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