: People say Mordekaiser has no CC
Death is the strongest CC
Swifteyy (EUW)
: What champions were meant to be in different roles at release?
{{champion:104}} ADC, reworked into jungle {{champion:121}} I want to say a mid laner but idk if that was intentional or not, he was mid on release {{champion:6}} ADC, then found a home top and got reworked for top specifically. {{champion:9}} jungler that pretty much is more viable every where else but jungle atm. {{champion:133}} ADC?
Xyltin (EUW)
: The first data inddicates that 8.10 helps AP junglers, at least in higher tier soloQ. Nidalee, Elise and co have all gained some PR and WR on the first day, even when it was not crazy much.
What first data? Because the sites for Elise have dropped in both pickrate and winrate across north american and korean servers (champ.gg and lolatylics). On OP.gg the site still list 8.9's stats. According to lolalytics; In 8.9 Elise was at a 50% winrate capping at average 56% winrate from one tricks with a total pickrate of around 5% in Korea Currently: https://i.imgur.com/ecs6u8V.jpg
Stacona (NA)
: Elise should be building Talisman anyways. Try maxing W first. There are new junglers that rise up this patch, like Zyra, Brand, Heimerdinger, and Karthus since they use mana and CDR much better than movespeed. You can also try getting Twin Shadows for movespeed and ghosts, which slow the target. You can also try Reverie as well which has everything you want for Elise, Twin Shadows may be better as the ghost slow will help land your stun and item CDR mastery got a quality of life buff for it as well.
W max is bad early since using your Qs (especially venomous bite) for more damage at a lower base cooldown does more. When talisman elise was a thing in the past, she never maxed W because W is just extra base damage with an AP ratio that never goes up with ranks, and more attack speed on something that needs to burst her targets with % health. Maxing it for just 2 camps and wave clear isn't worth it. Twin shadows isn't good since its just a stat stick, it doesn't offer anything offensive it just slows people down. Elise has low ratios so the AP from it doesn't offer a whole lot. She desperately needs that damage from either revolver passive or penetration for more damage in total from haunting guise (which was moved to oblivion orb which sucks a lot for her since oblivion builds into morello instead of higher DPS liandrys.. you can sit on oblivion but that's still a lot of gold delayed until you get another full item rather then pen->upgrade liandrys) Same for reverie because it doesn't offer more base damage passives or amps, it only gives health, CDR, and flat AP which protobelt is better for because that atleast gives a revolver passive - > wave clear/damage active with more base numbers to syngerize with pen. Movement speed is a problem for elise in the early game because her goal is to influence the map as much as possible since she falls off as the game progresses, by the time you build shuralya's, you pretty much should've done your job by now either with mobis rush + wisp, or you should itemize for pen/off-tank for the inevidable fall off. She has no problems catching targets, its roaming that she needs to excel at to fulfill her niche. - 2 mil {{champion:60}}
: Finally an item for DIVER Diana!
I don't wanna burst your bubble but.. they're for ARAM only
: Yeah I can't see why any ap jungler would prefer the new Runic Echoes rather than the old one. Even more straight mages like Fiddlesticks (which one would think should benefit from these changes) would prefer the 7% movement speed version of the item rather than this one. And definitely no pure jungler (and even off-meta ones) would value 300 mana and 10% cdr more than the movement speed.
especially when we already got the talisman change which is good enough on its own, lost chapter is an overkill gold sink that we can't avoid building as AP junglers since its forced on us now.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 16
Please look into AP jungles like {{champion:60}} She's hit really hard in this "4 camp / level 2 contest scuttle" meta and the loss on machete attack speed with no compensation really holds her down in combination with her base AD nerf from 7.18 worlds. Mana isn't an issue for her so the new changes are meaningless to experienced players. She much rather prefers MS over CDR especially since she got her MS nerfed in 6.2 I think because of echoes, and now she doesn't have that either. AP junglers minus eve in general were struggling before these changes, now the new runic ruins all of them. https://youtu.be/nc8tK1VJ1jY?t=301
Rioter Comments
: what is this announcer
go into options and I think its under game, in which you can toggle between the new one of the default until it goes away.
: What is riots positioning upon leaving when bullied?
Riot basically says: Option 1: suck it up Option 2: mute Option 3: option 1 or 2 and additionally keeping your own cool with no retaliation. Report after the game without asking for reports.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: Does this game really need a second Kha'zis/Rengar combined with Darius?
Its camo He also doesn't just auto attack you once to kill you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9EQYGu5e,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-14T19:42:13.011+0000) > > I don't even see him as a roaming support. > > He CAN roam and gank, but he's mostly going to be like blitcrank in bot lane, constant fear of a hard engage with his Q or E, especially from stealth, at 6 he just becomes a kill securer at the cost of.. I guess no utility items? > > Wtf does this guy build? Will probabbly look like {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3117}} {{item:3190}} {{item:3050}} {{item:3109}}
He still needs {{item:3401}} at some point
Shuronia (NA)
: @riotgames what faction is pyke from????
: New champions I would like to see in the future based on Regions
Elise is kinda a noxian jungler? She's noxian but she's not currently in noxus. Janna I believe was part of piltover's lore too so she could count as support.(or zaun, one of the two)
Eclairius (EUW)
: Letha, like an assassin, and his bonus gold on R allow him to do so. But his ratio will probably not be as high as other assassins. We might see cheap off-meta builds abusing the bonus gold tho.
I have a hunch he might do a duskblade build, then after that just go utility like locket so he's still supporting. All he really has to do is land his chain CC and then when his team brings them low, secure the kills.
: Why did riot want to make a roaming support?
I don't even see him as a roaming support. He CAN roam and gank, but he's mostly going to be like blitcrank in bot lane, constant fear of a hard engage with his Q or E, especially from stealth, at 6 he just becomes a kill securer at the cost of.. I guess no utility items? Wtf does this guy build?
: Pyke - Ult Kills by him grant 300G for TWO Damage Dealers
This isn't going to last long before getting gutted.. He's an assassin with elements from several champs His passive and W is basically {{champion:28}} and we all know how balanced that is His Q is {{champion:412}} but can go over walls like blitz, so we're already annoyed there His ult is a combination of {{champion:122}} and {{champion:6}} with resets but on thresholds Only thing that's really unique is that E which I can't think of a comparison to. The fact his ultimate is thresholds makes this scarier because it means no matter how hard to win that lane, one close trade or one teamfight with a focus on somebody means he wins it. Lets see what numbers are, maybe he's too feast or famine in lane so actually pressuring the lane is tough without him dying, especially pre-6.
: My Game Knowledge is basically non-existent
It takes awhile to learn general game knowledge, basically you learn by failing and reevaluating what caused you to fail, lose, or get killed and what outcome could've been different. Taking your rengar scenario as an example; You see: snowballing zoe and winning by constantly pressuring her, but you can't control a rengar leaping at you which results in a downfall to you lane, but thankfully you have a jungler that can clean but can't press the lead. what I see: Since snowballing zoe seems easy as you're doing well, and constantly outplaying her with pressure and survive her, therefore proving she's not threat and is borderling useless, maybe just constantly being alive mid is all that you need to win, buying a stopwatch and when you hear rengar ult, put W on you, then when he leaps use stasis to avoid all his damage, this gives you time to flash or walk away with some Q MS kiting since he can't approach you for long in the W. This turns out to be a huge outplay since that translates to: less CS you miss, a CD on rengar's ult so less pressure elsewhere on the map, zoe still getting shoved in and pressured rather then going 1 for 1 so you two gain/lose nothing but get a reset on the wave, information on where rengar is, and by keeping pressure mid longer you contribute more to the team, either opening up roam possibilities without countergank fear, invade possibilities for your jungler since rengar is vurnable and you can assist if things get hot, etc. Or: Maybe there was a ward trinket up you didn't use, or you had enough gold for a control ward, maybe a certain spot in the river or jungle would've spotted him better, etc ___ That's all in theory though, who knows maybe zoe herself will pull a similar outcome and counter it with a well timed bubble during the stasis. But that's the kind of evaluation you look for, even if you're wrong and lose anyway, practicing it can make you adjust scenarios in real-time a little better. I don't know viktors strength (well I know he's not in the best spot but I mean I don't know viktor as a champ well enough) so I can't promise I'm accurate on champion advice, but having a general idea of that champ, that's a scenario I'd be more worried about in the rengar's position, viktor playing for everybody else since he knows his opponent sucks and just farming until his team groups and he benefits off of that.
: Bad Builds Guide: tHe BeSt ElIsE bUiLd EvArRrR!1!!!1!
cringe Don't do this build if you're not memeing in blind pick.. You know what's better then doing your full combo then attack speed cap killing them? Doing your full combo and just killing them with full AP/pen builds.
iTaLenTZ (EUW)
: Rant: Malzahar is the poster child of failed reworks
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 11
Please look into buffs for{{champion:60}} She's still struggling after the recent buffs she got and she's a super early game reliant champ that struggles in the new "delayed ganks" jungle. She even loses machete's attack speed making clears slower and overall now she has no real options to make up for her season 7 runes pages (attack speed, scaling health primarily). Her level 2s aren't good either so she can't fight for scuttles over most champs. Consider buffing one of the following: her human Q ratio, Base AD, or Base violatile spiderling W damage (you can nerf the ratio here for all we elise mains care). Base AD would be highly appreciated since that nerf for worlds really hurt us Lane Elise players. and pls pls PLEASE give her the MS back that she was nerfed from in 6.2 as a result of runic echoes's release, which in the new jungle update no longer gives the MS that got her speed nerfed in the first place.
: the pont was to help bring in other ap junglers that would want to jg but couldnt
no jungle item change is going to fix fiddlestick's krugs and scuttle crab and lack of raptors buff problems. So this isn't going to make mage jungles anymore viable, it's making AP jg in general even worse, especially with MS removal combined with previous MS nerfs because of echoes release.
: As a single mother, I’ve one purpose in life:
Pit bulls are popular. When a something is popular you're likely to hear more experiences about it, both good and bad. But nobody talks about that time a golden retriever ripped a guy's face off.
: Nimbus cloak
its only a 2 second buff that decays over that 2 seconds. She would waste it in a Q or W's cast time.
MiD JiN2 (NA)
: I couldn't get chest even I got s on karma
Its not 100% droprate, its you **can** get a chest with an S on the champ or somebody in your game gets an S while you're playing the champ.
: took me 7 years to get all champions how about you?
I got them all in the same year I joined, it especially got easier when they added champ shard rerolls and only 1700 IP shards. Only bought like, 3 in RP
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 9
Anything for Elise? She feels very underwhelming and in the new meta of "nerfing early impact from junglers" Elise/lee pretty much get nerfed when they're already in bad spots. Would like some power on Q or a base number buff liie AD, and maybe some MS since that was nerfed on her due to aether wisp on echoes and now that MS is removed.
: Why the hell does trapping a champ with Yorick's cage proc turret aggro?
They coded it awhile back to actually apply something so that the damage and cc-less ability actually grants assists. Maybe They forgot an aggro check
: Reword that man Pink. ward is more effective against her than any other champion (because it stops the third most powerful thing in her kit.) Does not mean she is more susceptible than any other champion.
Honestly I think of this as a STRENGH of eve rather then a weakness. Even if she's spotted she can still do as much work as any other jungler spotted, but additionally she auto detects control wards she walks past, so there's no hidden "did I walk past a control ward?".
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6lVFQlIu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-09T01:39:24.686+0000) > > I can't ban them. > > Because I can't ban all of them {{champion:35}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:114}} > > ######graves/morg are counterpicks for what i play, rest are either OP or I just don't feel like dealing with uninteractive gameplay. Implying Graves isn't god tier at the moment
Andrey0345 (EUNE)
: If I heard a "smurf" ever call tryndamere a stupid broken braindead champ, I would just mute him and report for lying.
He technically is. The thing about tryn is he's so uninteractive that he can solo carry a game despite feeding and being overall bad. Its really annoying to be unable to do anything with somebody being forced to answer a tryn split push, so you pretty much rely on 4v4s and seeing who wins (meaning tryn feeding up there likely won't matter since he'll just base race you.). He racks up gold so fast with those pushes that he eventually gets the items to 2-3 shot a squishy during his ult so its a 4v4, or he forces more then one person to answer him so its a 3v4. Then of course there's the broken random crit mechanic in his passive that makes trading and laning against him top all the more unpredictable. Tryn isn't really meta, but is he a broken champ. Hence why we don't ever ask for tryn metas.
Blujuju (NA)
: Why does the "FF" rate in Korea is higher and people are better ? Why does NA team take Korean player into there team but Korean team dont take NA ? Because we are fragile NA player who cant accept loosing and we playing with childish community {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
You've never been to korea lol They are way more toxic then NA and EU in solo queue. The reason they don't take NA players is because korea has better investments in coaching and typically korean teams can communicate better with Korean players then English exclusive speaking NA players. Faker can't speak english, so what good is playing with meteos as a jungler for SKT? A big factor for why korean's even open mid is due to internet limitations (either at home because lets be honest, households are often more strict) and they lack the time to play out 40 minute games (either because they're in more common PC arcades or they have other schedules). So basically they just pick the strongest early game junglers and try to force a tilt or make the game look weighted in one teams favor so the other gets a "I don't have time for this" and all agree to open.
Blujuju (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HJf09ik,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-05-09T05:18:19.057+0000) > > I've won games where it was just my nexus and 0 towers left, and the enemy had all theirs. I've also lost games because my team throws or gets too cocky being 20-0. > > I usually don't ff unless the team starts raging or quits because I like to see what can happen if we just get a 6 item adc and potentially win a baron contest. its close to imposible to get 6 item adc if they have 10k gold difference at 13 min unless your Bronze 5
> [{quoted}](name=Blujuju,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HJf09ik,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-05-09T05:24:19.213+0000) > > unless if your Bronze 5 Well I got to where I am from bronze 5 at one point so, Over exaggeration?
Blujuju (NA)
: NA mentality on "FF" and Open mid. (sorry for my english)
I've won games where it was just my nexus and 0 towers left, and the enemy had all theirs. I've also lost games because my team throws or gets too cocky being 20-0. I usually don't ff unless the team starts raging or quits because I like to see what can happen if we just get a 6 item adc and potentially win a baron contest. Call me what you will but even if I win only 1/20 of those "never surrender" mentallity games, that's still a win over nothing that adds up by the end of the season. I just don't see a reason to quit when anything is possible in solo queue, if its a true loss outcome, then its a loss outcome.. if its a win, well then its a good thing I said no. Never know which games those are until you let them happen. In norms well I guess I'm less willing to stall and just go next since I don't gain anything by winning and I don't lose anything by giving up.
: Can we start getting Chromas for new Blood Moon skins?
Talon, Jhin, TF all look fine to me. Originally Elise went on pbe pink, then they turned her red, then they reverted it because it didn't really seem that great especially since her base skin already had red in it. Evelynn is the same issue with her tango being too similar in color. Only thing they fucked up with was the horns and the hair color.
: Stop using "you can ban them" as an excuse for a champion being blatanly overpowered.
I can't ban them. Because I can't ban all of them {{champion:35}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:114}} ######graves/morg are counterpicks for what i play, rest are either OP or I just don't feel like dealing with uninteractive gameplay.
hihu (NA)
: [CLIENT] Message "Failed to Patch, Retrying" Keeps Popping Up
yea its just a problem on their end: http://status.leagueoflegends.com/?en_US#na
x HIGH x (EUNE)
: Suggestion on the new rune.. Nimbus Cloak (S2).
Yea it needs more uptime (and the decay removal IMO) 2 seconds of MS every 50-120 seconds seems a little weak. Granted I've been testing it with transformation champs but its not that bad despite the CD just its too short and the decay makes that feel even more apparent. I think 3 would be fine, or even 4 with a decay.
k wìx (NA)
: I'd rather get rid of it in favor of new design ideas to begin with. Nimbus Cloak already exists and it's called Phase Rush.
and it gives access to a MS rune for kiting/going in for champs that would love to option for a domination tree rune or resolve keystone, since it can be taken as a secondary. Or its still a buff to champs like aurelion sol or singed, both which really didn't have a good rune in that slot and this synergizes well with phase rush.
: Champions on summoner's profile
On PBE they reduced it to 1 champ and the top 3 when you hover it. So RIP that idea (idk why they thought clash trophies were more important that they had to limit the number of champs you see on your profile..)
k wìx (NA)
: Nimbus Cloak - by Riots own definition - belongs in the Domination Tree
2 second uptime with decaying MS and 25 second cooldown that only activates on typically the longest cooldown ability is hardly target access. Target access maybe for leo or rengar, but its definitely manipulating the resource of MS, kiting, **and empowering abilities.** As for phase rush in the same tree, it does still make a decent rune as a secondary tree and even phase rush + nimbus is really good for champs that need to keep up or have trouble getting into a fight or want to ult and run after they did their engages/utility ults (swain, vlad, heim, raka come to mind.)
: Oh hi it me. Am interested in getting Nid back into a solo lane. Seems high value if we can achieve it given her gameplay and thematics. The issue I'm running into is that her current kit doesn't seem to support lane play without a number of game health risks or risks of making her jungle bonkers. As a result I expect getting lane Nidalee back would take a number of larger mechanical shifts on the champion as opposed to simple numbers changes. This is doable, but would take time (Similar scope to the work we did on Rengar). Was thinking of doing some exploratory work on her once I wrap up work on my current VGU. No promises however, the exploration could end up yielding nothing of value (Would only make changes if we were confident Lane Nid AND jungle Nid were being made better).
What about other champs that potentially laned like {{champion:60}} and {{champion:121}} ?
: Lets talk about other runes because Minion Dematerializer isnt a complete failure
A lot of high elo mid laners take it to shove and roam. So its the very opposite of noobbait, more like its a learning curve rune.
Hi im JoJo (EUNE)
: STORMRAZOR will totally balance Yasuo
Its not going to change anything For 3400 gold, he got 100% crit and damage reduction with just 2600 {{item:3046}} and 800 {{item:1018}}
: *NEW* Nimbus Cloak
i'm looking very forward to this personally. Don't think it breaks anybody (udyr being an exception) and IMO it gives power to underpreforming champs without breaking them (Elise, Nid, Jayce, Quinn) while nerfing overpreformers that were strong and took ultimate (eve primarily, I took ultimate hat and just hard carried everygame, now she'll be more willing to buy CDR or at least this will balance out her addition of 10% CDR on echoes.) I feel bad for karthus though.
: It replaces Ult Hat.... Its usless to most that took Ult hat. Those that Took Ult hat have nothing to replace it now.
Ultimate hat was a bit overkill, we didn't really need ultimate hat in the past just now it's an option. If anything this makes ults better, since it practically gives eve her ult and run back from frost fang builds, rengar can ult further away, champs that need to stick with ults like swain can chase when they cast it better, etc. Also its way better then ultimate with stuff like these: {{champion:76}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:9}}{{champion:77}}
Avios1 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=92nRAbAe,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-05-07T16:04:13.753+0000) > > I miss nacho fries. > > I especially missed the nacho fry box... Good news! I heard it's coming back later in the year. as a former employee, I hated making them tbh, but they were pretty good. The nacho cheese is pretty freaking dope too...
> [{quoted}](name=Avios1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=92nRAbAe,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-05-07T16:43:01.789+0000) > > Good news! I heard it's coming back later in the year. as a former employee, I hated making them tbh, but they were pretty good. > > The nacho cheese is pretty freaking dope too... http://discordemoji.com/assets/emoji/kPoggers4Ever.gif
Raiyza (NA)
: I don't get sauce. I just love the nacho cheese sauce that is on most of the burritos. That shit is soooooooooo good. I'm a man that loves his cheese.
> [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=92nRAbAe,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-07T15:07:36.069+0000) > > I don't get sauce. > > I just love the nacho cheese sauce that is on most of the burritos. That shit is soooooooooo good. I'm a man that loves his cheese. I miss nacho fries. I especially missed the nacho fry box...
: Like redit is? They're more sheep than anything.
You're more likely to see a high elo or proplayer post on the reddit to Shepard the sheep occasionally. Especially on big topic threads. But ya, reddit can shitpost sometimes too. (trick2g was the only high elo post I've seen in the past couple of years on boards.)
Pika Fox (NA)
: Lets be honest, if you listened to the playerbase youd be playing a brand new game every hour with wildly sweeping buffs and nerfs as everyone complains about the next new balanced fotm. Players are good at signaling when theres a problem. Players are absolutely garbage at telling you what the problem is.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EOIc9q4J,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-07T15:44:07.444+0000) > > Players are good at signaling when theres a problem. Players are absolutely garbage at telling you what the problem is. plus how to fix it. Granted riot hasn't hit the mark either in that regard but the boards are probably not the best at giving suggestions.
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