: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x80il0yf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-22T23:47:07.595+0000) > > IMO she's pretty good right now, better then she was through season 6. > > Her issue is exactly as you described, match up. Sivir is good vs. ADCs that cast spells and supports like blitz and thresh. Unforunately however, this is an enchanters meta and most of the meta ADCs don't have much you can spell shield. She's good but she's niche because of the overwhelming popularity in enchanters and ADCs that outdamage her early and scaled even hard then her late (like twitch, draven, and trist). So in other words, if you main a champion like Sivir in this meta, as my duo does you are screwed. Figured as much. On another note, do you think she needs a Rek'Sai scale rework? I mean she used to be one of the most played, and respected champs in the game with a high skill cap. Even if the meta shifts, Draven,Twitch, and Trist aren't going to really ever be out of play. If you see a Sivir you pick Twitch, as easy as that. I feel as if to really balance the game something needs to be changed. How is the game balanced if certain champs are basically unplayable?
> [{quoted}](name=LeBlanc Prince,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x80il0yf,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-09-23T00:03:05.347+0000) > > So in other words, if you main a champion like Sivir in this meta, as my duo does you are screwed. Figured as much. On another note, do you think she needs a Rek'Sai scale rework? I mean she used to be one of the most played, and respected champs in the game with a high skill cap. Even if the meta shifts, Draven,Twitch, and Trist aren't going to really ever be out of play. If you see a Sivir you pick Twitch, as easy as that. I feel as if to really balance the game something needs to be changed. She could use a rek'sai rework but I wouldn't call her urgently in need of one. If sivir wants to be healthy a rek'sai scope rework would do her good (assuming it fixes her issues unlike kindred's) but once the FOTY adcs drop out sooner (already word about nerfing twitch before or after preseason hits) sivir would be in a decent spot. A rework would be good for her, she could use one, but she doesn't need one yet. > How is the game balanced if certain champs are basically unplayable? Sadly that's something we can only dream for, because as long as one thing is good, another thing is outshined by it. League isn't the only game where this is an issue either, at least league is adaptable with itemization.
: What needs to be done with Sivir?
IMO she's pretty good right now, better then she was through season 6. Her issue is exactly as you described, match up. Sivir is good vs. ADCs that cast spells and supports like blitz and thresh. Unforunately however, this is an enchanters meta and most of the meta ADCs don't have much you can spell shield. She's good but she's niche because of the overwhelming popularity in enchanters and ADCs that outdamage her early and scaled even hard then her late (like twitch, draven, and trist).
Paroe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4lQe9oey,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-09-22T22:02:07.272+0000) > > It wasn't that they didn't do anything wrong, they technically did considering they held their team's hostage forcing them in a playstyle they didn't sign up for. (1v2 bot lane) and there was evidence of them practically inting in some of their games, which intentional or not, was plain unfair for who played with them. > > However the community misunderstood the scenario as "off meta playstyles being punished" when riot's reasoning was "lack of communicating the playstyle and overall causing a negative community influence and despite that, still going through". > > Riot has since lifted the two player's bans, because the community felt it wasn't fair or right (but the people who were in the games did) and riot gave them the option of trying to communicate their playstyles and reason with their allies, rather then force the strategy on them against their will and throw as many games as they win by doing it. They changed their policy stating that trolling isn't fine, but off meta playstyles are as long as the team is communicated with the playstyle and that the intention is to win. It was barely a policy change, and more like clearer wording so players understand the reasoning, since riot at no point had a problem with off meta playstyles to begin with. > > Mass reporting alone proves how toxic it was to play with them, and even winning games gave them the report. Nobody cares about nunu or singed support, they didn't like nunu or singed support playing the jungle role while the ADC gets poked by cait at the time. The replays "victums" provided didn't look fun to be involved in either. How can you talk about someone playing off meta "holding their team hostage" and in the same breath say mass reporting them shows how toxic it is? You understand the irony there... right? Youre saying its okay for people to hold accounts hostage but its not okay for people to play what they want. Youre saying it okay to punish people who are different despite them not doing anything wrong. Let me put that situation in other words; Theres a town of android users and an apple store moves in. The town boycots the apple store and eventually due to protests the android-sponsored police intervene and shut down the store by force despite the store not breaking any rules, laws, or even doing anything wrong. Is that okay to you?
> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4lQe9oey,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-09-22T22:18:15.617+0000) > > How can you talk about someone playing off meta "holding their team hostage" and in the same breath say mass reporting them shows how toxic it is? > You understand the irony there... right? Youre saying its okay for people to hold accounts hostage but its not okay for people to play what they want. Youre saying it okay to punish people who are different despite them not doing anything wrong. They're forcing players to deal with their playstyle. Its literally dodge or deal with their strategy. They're telling their team "this is my playstyle" and regardless of whether the team agrees or disagrees with it, they have to play through it in the same sense they're forced to play through a ghost/cleanse adc. Here's a situation: You queue up for ranked and you're ADC. Your support shows up and they hover singed smite/ghost. You ask them "can you not" and they do it and unless you dodge you're in a 1v2 lane the rest of the game. That's a hostage situation where you're forced in an extreme uncomfortable position and there's nothing you can say to them that will make the situation better besides "be tilt proof and play it out" or simply dodge or hope for something else to dodge, in the end lp is at stake. This is what riot wants to prevent, not the playstyle itself, but the situation of being forced in the playstyle as a third party. What riot wants is unique playstyles, but communicated and worked out with the team, not tilting the team so they have nothing to do but keyboard warrior and report them after the game (which is always the case and why they got so much attention, because people don't want to play with them again simply put.). If riot ever implemented a vote /kick system in champ select for trolls, these two players may never get to do their strategy because nobody wants to play with it, few agree with what they're actually doing. > Let me put that situation in other words; Theres a town of android users and an apple store moves in. The town boycots the apple store and eventually due to protests the android-sponsored police intervene and shut down the store by force despite the store not breaking any rules, laws, or even doing anything wrong. > Is that okay to you? wot? That's not even practical because why would anybody even care for something like that lol
Paroe (NA)
: @thread You realize that the singed and nunu guys were only ever punished because they were reported en masse? They didnt actually DO anything wrong and not playing the meta is, according to the letter, not a punishable offense. Riot more or less lied and fabricated reasons for those two punishments - pulling singular instances of anything and leaving their WRITTEN RULES to be changed at whim by rioters. Theres nothing wrong with not playing to the macro meta. The problem comes when riot backs reports when people have done nothing wrong according to the law. Punishing people with no real reason is a HUGE problem.
> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4lQe9oey,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-22T21:38:49.568+0000) > > Theres nothing wrong with not playing to the macro meta. The problem comes when riot backs reports when people have done nothing wrong according to the law. Punishing people with no real reason is a HUGE problem. It wasn't that they didn't do anything wrong, they technically did considering they held their team's hostage forcing them in a playstyle they didn't sign up for. (1v2 bot lane) and there was evidence of them practically inting in some of their games, which intentional or not, was plain unfair for who played with them. However the community misunderstood the scenario as "off meta playstyles being punished" when riot's reasoning was "lack of communicating the playstyle and overall causing a negative community influence and despite that, still going through". Riot has since lifted the two player's bans, because the community felt it wasn't fair or right (but the people who were in the games did) and riot gave them the option of trying to communicate their playstyles and reason with their allies, rather then force the strategy on them against their will and throw as many games as they win by doing it. They changed their policy stating that trolling isn't fine, but off meta playstyles are as long as the team is communicated with the playstyle and that the intention is to win. It was barely a policy change, and more like clearer wording so players understand the reasoning, since riot at no point had a problem with off meta playstyles to begin with. Mass reporting alone proves how toxic it was to play with them, and even winning games gave them the report. Nobody cares about nunu or singed support, they didn't like nunu or singed support playing the jungle role while the ADC gets poked by cait at the time. The replays "victums" provided didn't look fun to be involved in either.
HTC VIVE (NA)
: Championship Ashe Chroma costs 1300 RP plus whatever you value your time for a CHANCE to get it
1300 for a chroma + ward skin + icon + border? Seems reasonable to me. These missions aren't hard either, you get new ones each week and they can all be done in a ~~day~~ hour.
Bugz (NA)
: Should an Assassin have this much power?
I'm more interested in learning how there's a 16-5 kha'zix that evolved R early.. tbh I'm not surprised by your damage. Sona is frail, trist is frail, kha doesn't have a cleaver so he's frail, hecarim's build is praying to be one shot, and galio is probably the least drunk but he took baron hits (which reduces his resistance and shadow kayn does mixed, so worst of both worlds for him, apply that to everybody else too) and then everybody funnels into a clean W+Q. I've seen similar results from talon, except again, kayn is mixed so it worked out significantly better.
Joetri10 (EUW)
: The 'feedback' for the new 'sword' skins; Why did riot listen to it?
I was primarily complaining about the fact you couldn't recognize who the champions were if you didn't know who the skins belonged to. I asked a bunch of friends of mine (7) that never check the boards or anything, and my Irelia main friend got hyped before I broke it to him that's Janna. Fiora most of them assumed was another Riven skin, and one of them thought that was Taliyah with her splash art's silky clothes. Only one of them confused yi for yasuo, they actually reconized yi.
: Since Evelynn is Bound to Get Fully Revealed Soon...
When I look at her teaser image, I see a lifeless man with a vampirish looking evelynn. What I wouldn't be surprised is if eve gets some kind of healing or spell vamp as she sucks the life out of her opponents. Maybe she'll have a morgana passive or her spikes with have a built in spell vamp. Another teaser image shows a heart being formed from her two tentacles, so maybe she'll get a charm as well.
: Twitch wouldn't be nearly as overbearing if he needed to stay in closer combat to win trades. If you have venom stacks on you, his effective zoning range becomes 1200. ------------------------ Another aspect is the slow on W combined with the size of the skill itself. Clipping W into E chunks the enemy AD heavily; with a 950 max range. Idk the ratio of Twitch players using that skill at max range vs nearly point-blank, (you guys might be able to dig that up though) but it's difficult to miss it during a skirmish bot. When combined with E's range Twitch can effectively lose the trade in close quarters, then when the enemy AD backs off he presses E to get the last word of it and ends up winning the trade. This is going to sound maybe pretty silly and maybe out of scope, but would it be strange for the size of the contaminate zone to scale with range?
What they should do is give his Q a rengar/eve warning affect. When a twitch is stealthed in ultimate auto attack range it warns players in the range with a flashing icon on their head. Right now there's nothing wrong about his laning phase, twitch has always been like this, its the fact he can stealth from much further away since the assassin update and then come from a dumb angle and blow up an entire team with 2 items from a safe range, which can't be punished or turned on because enchanters meta making the move even less punishable.
mkyner (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FaeYeBTe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-22T12:03:53.289+0000) > > Anime sucks. Vacuums suck.
> [{quoted}](name=mkyner,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FaeYeBTe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-22T15:09:59.052+0000) > > Vacuums suck. https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpgno?redirect
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 22
The primary problem with leveling accounts and SS is there is no tutorial for jg. You literally have no idea what jungling is, and even if you did figure it out, you'd have no way to appropriately do it without smite (which resulted in grinding.) I remember when I first joined and wanted to learn jg Kha and Elise and watched a bunch of youtubers do it to learn. Took me three levels before I realized that random lightning bolt was a summoner spell I couldn't unlock quite yet. I don't think we care about flash or cleanse since new players will likely do bots to level 10 or blind pick where everybody is just as handicapped for their MMR, but smite and jg tutorial is something you guys should really look into, especially since its probably the most popular role and a lot of players jump into it without knowing what "ganks, farming, counter jungling, combat smites, etc" all is.
Rockman (NA)
: post ahri pics to make me feel better
https://smite.gamepedia.com/media/smite.gamepedia.com/thumb/4/43/SkinArt_DaJi_Default.jpg/250px-SkinArt_DaJi_Default.jpg?version=7418c290272b05f3727c98ea8a6b05f3 (Da Ji from smite incase you're wondering)
Almighty (EUNE)
: I don't want to be forced to use a "Worlds" icon to complete the missions!
> [{quoted}](name=Almighty,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fKm7z2E,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-22T01:17:10.332+0000) > > Now, i am going to watch my entire friends list + Loading screens be covered in this Worlds summoner icon. You were going to have to watch people get covered with it anyway. Its not like we're doing this specifically for worlds event, we're going it to show support for our teams and to use team emotes. Pretty sure half of us that own any worlds icon have one equipt before these missions went live. > Riot, one of the best things about the Star Guardian event was the fact that we were not forced to equip any Star Guardian related icons to participate, because you knew that the Star Guardian theme does not appeal to everyone. > Well, why do you assuume that everyone cares about Worlds? I understand that someone who watches the tournaments and has a favourite team, or is going to see the event live, might be interested in equipping the icon. But forcing it down everyone's throats in the promise of free skin shards _(let's face it, that's the only reason people will play these missions)_ is kind of ridiculous. Worlds is a bigger event then Star Guardian considering its proplay and they desperately need people to watch and show support for it. Especially so that they can continue to pay pro players to not uninstall this game like a lot of them complain about doing on their VODs. I wouldn't compare worlds missions to bullet hell missions that only give you a graphically bugged ward skin for the effort, just because you have to use an icon while doing them. I'm at least getting a quality border, icon, AND ward+skin chroma for attending them, at the low low cost of using a free icon (and buying the ticket pass but I get my money's worth with the chroma, icon, and ward skin.) > Riot, one of the best things about the Star Guardian event was the fact that we were not forced to equip any Star Guardian related icons to participate, I had to quote this part again because it gave me a chuckle, one of the best parts of star guardian was not needing the icon.. and I don't disagree because everything about it was pretty bad between having to buy the borders, painfully hard missions and weak rewards for them, and a gamemode that could use a lot more polishing lol
: think her W is the worst: http://prntscr.com/go2pu7 ahh the red and neon blue :((
that was bugged on the PBE They fixed it. https://youtu.be/X4qrdSuDo1Y?t=97
: Dear god you actually like the new skin? She looks like a red Voldemort
Regular cassiopeia looks just as much like Voldemort if you look hard enough as eternum does lol. I like this skin, everything about it (except her voice lines don't blend too well with the filter, like the zyra skin) seems perfect to me.
: Eternum Casssiopeia is actual garbage
: https://i.imgur.com/loNiQ1k.jpg?noredirect
https://i.imgur.com/GWMiWOu.jpgno?redirect
: How make the emote system fail at release:
Oh, yea definitely not spending money on something I'm muting and probably everybody else is too. IP different story, RP nah, I'll buy chest and keys first.
: Urgot's full reveal came a bit earlier than it normally would have because Kayn was going live the same week as Urgot was going to the PBE. They didn't want Urgot to overshadow Kayn's release, so they revealed him a few days early to let the hype wear down so people could focus on Kayn's Spotlight and launch as the new patch came out. Other than Urgot's, new and reworked champion reveals are generally on Monday or Tuesday of patch week, so Monday is the best guess (Darn it! We still have to wait a full 4 or 5 days!).
That and I think when Urgot was revealed, they didn't give a teaser they flat out put the gameplay page out there. They're just teasing Eve for the weekend hype it seems.
Kloqdq (NA)
: With the reveal she will be out on PBE by Tuesday night more than likely. We will likely see gameplay tomorrow or over the weekend.
Monday the latest on the gameplay^ I'd say sooner though cause her teaser is as early as urgot's was.
: Everytime I open up the old GD, I get to see the biggest lie in the universe.
: Evelynn Teaser from League of Legends - Philippines Facebook
Galio team has had a long history of disappointing me. This did not make that history. I like what I'm seeing, I like what I'm hearing, and I like what's growing in my pants. GFJ
: Be seeing her real soon....(Or will we?)
Tuesday she'll be on the PBE. If we're lucky we may get a website page featuring the whole rework in advanced. Urgot got revealed around this time with his gameplay page. For sure we'll get that page monday the latest though.
Reav3 (NA)
: She still has that quote :)
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KxseJ1Uk,comment-id=00050000000100010002,timestamp=2017-09-21T14:40:26.419+0000) > > She still has that quote :) The galio team has finally won me over.
: How to Git Gud
Do you have any tips for me to get back to gold? I'm currently in this shitty elo called diamond and I want out.
CLG ear (NA)
: Star Guardian Soraka's ears are all wrong
Soraka also doesn't have green eyes, white skin, and wings. Her ears can position however they want. Personally I like them better that way and if raka ever got a VGU they should be like that for all her skins.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 20
You mention holding off on ornn buffs. What about urgot? He's still not a viable top atm and he probably would be with some stat buffs. {{champion:6}} Or are you waiting to see what preseason does?
: Your Shop got me thinking about my problem with skins
I mean hey, if they don't interest you, you don't have to buy them. Personally league is most of my entertainment ~~and reasons for high blood pressure~~ so its worth it to me if the skin itself fancies me enough to buy it. Right now I have some stuff I'm investing for so I'll probably skip all my shop reductions (sadly they're pretty good for me too which hurts).
Rioter Comments
: Who's more difficult, Katarina or Yasuo?
I'd say yas because its easier to outplay yourself, E'ing to the wrong direction or picking the wrong time to ult. Kat doesn't have those same mistakes unless she just flat out all ins at the wrong time, where as yas may do it unintentionally. Kat has a higher skill floor then yas for sure though. Especially with her rework. If you want to go learning curve vs. learning curve, kat is harder, if its master vs. master, yasuo.
dy961 (NA)
: Why is Veigar never played in the LCS?
His stun isn't that reliable since it offers enough of a window to escape and its easily telegraph when he might use it. They're also more likely to dodge his abilities during it. If veigar gets picked in draft usually the team will be way ahead of him and counter pick him (With meta picks like kassadin, ori, syndra, cassiopeia, and have communicated jungler assistance.. or just roam and ignore him.) Overall everybody knows how to deal with him and how to make sure he doesn't get to do anything in proplay. Is the same reason why nasus has never seen much play, sure their late game is op, but a competitive team knows how to abuse their do nothing early and close the game.
: I was on board when they showed the new Powerpuff Girl's design...
The lip make up is what gets me more then everything else...
: Who wants to hear the enhance version of NUNU Bot's Laugh ?? lol that might be epic
Now I want nunu bot to become an ultimate skin that reads anything sent in chat.
: I second that that's that :)
I second that that's that's that :)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=WK8LqUd3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:47:33.092+0000) > The moment you activate wooxy, it'll count as third party tampering. You got any sources for that? I've been using it for months.
I don't know where they went but remember a number of account ban post relating to it. This is all I got now but it doesn't give a yes or no answer. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support/IeJMNj1H-can-i-get-banned-for-using-custom-skins-on-wooxy
: Just use Wooxy, also talking about 3rd party skin models is a bit spooky on boards.
Wooxy isn't allowed and will get your account terminated. There are skin editors riot doesn't mind, but that software specifically isn't allowed due to a history of map skins and timers. The moment you activate wooxy, it'll count as third party tampering.
kaizenV (EUNE)
: Good points. But not quite related to what I'm trying to say, unless I misunderstood. To clarify, I'm not talking about my rank. Needing to go through promos to get to 0LP (in essence gaining no LP) and then losing one game at 0LP to go to 65LP (in essence losing 35LP—plus needing to go through the hurdle of winning promos again) is my point here. As for smurfs, it's a valid point. But not really related as I see it. They belong to a much higher tier, so their winrate is usually much higher. But if you belong to just a little higher tier (e.g., you're in mid-silver and belong to mid-gold), the climb there is made much rougher by the current LP system if you get a little unlucky about when you lose a few games in a row.
> [{quoted}](name=kaizenV,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HJI53X3N,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:17:50.999+0000) > > Good points. But not quite related to what I'm trying to say, unless I misunderstood. > > To clarify, I'm not talking about my rank. Needing to go through promos to get to 0LP (in essence gaining no LP) and then losing one game at 0LP to go to 65LP (in essence losing 35LP—plus needing to go through the hurdle of winning promos again) is my point here. The promos part is an issue, but losing 1 game and going back down immediately after promos isn't always an issue. For example, it took me 6 losses at plat 4 0 LP right out of promos to get demoted from plat 4 to 5. MMR is what dictates whether or not you get demoted at 0 LP. What I hate however, and does need fixed, is if you win promos, win a game, and then lose a game back to 0 LP, you're guaranteed demotion if you lose the next one where as if you just got promoted and you're 0 you'll get demotion immunity for a couple games (based on MMR). If that's specifically what this thread is about then you have a good point.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eo9hKFZV,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:05:29.271+0000) > > Its post like these that make nobody take what you say seriously lol > ok dude let me take ALL THIS TIME to see what your comment > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eo9hKFZV,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:05:29.271+0000) > > You act like being ~~masters for a short time because darius bot lane and mordekaiser~~ diamond 1 gives you the privileged to shit talk everybody on the boards did i ever shittalk malicious metal? did i ever shittalk ralanr? no i fucking didn't, there are respectable people on the board that do not post bullshit and i don't have anything against them and then, i won't name shame but there are people that ACTUALLY deserve my wrath **this dude above you tries to tell me what takes skill and what doesn't when he plays sion with ghost redemption trinity force and other shitty itemization then complains about sion being weak when sion has 52% win rate** so i'm sorry, but don't come and talk to me about skill when you can't play the game > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eo9hKFZV,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:05:29.271+0000) > > when half the stuff you say isn't even relevant or of much concern to the average playerbase, only in "masters which you're not in yet" so? that doesn't mean i'm wrong it just means i'm right on things that you do not encounter but low elo catch ups 3 months later just like ivern lulu tristana all those picks that i said were broken but no one cared except 3 months later
> [{quoted}](name=i am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eo9hKFZV,comment-id=00020000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T17:09:57.390+0000) > > ok dude let me take ALL THIS TIME to see what your comment Damn, how much time are we talkin? > did i ever shittalk malicious metal? > did i ever shittalk ralanr? > no i fucking didn't, there are respectable people on the board that do not post bullshit and i don't have anything against them > > and then, i won't name shame but there are people that ACTUALLY deserves my wrath There's a lot of people that deserve each others wrath. But we have civil discussion here (and if you don't think this is civil, being all over the place I assure you this is a surprisingly mild community on the boards, minus the occasion rants in player behavior.) We don't **flame** each other's post and knock them down based on playerstyle and elo. Whether you're right, or wrong, there are better ways to get your points across. Malicious does make good post, and his replies to his comments don't include "???" "ftfy" "and when you're a sion otp and you're bad with him, complain about him being weak when he has 52% win rate in high elo, you should not reply to me". You want to hear from him as you're willing to listen. In your case, half your post after the first line people want to tune out because its usually something arrogant or sarcastic or relating to your morde bot and being masters. > **this dude above you tries to tell me what takes skill and what doesn't when he plays sion with ghost redemption trinity force and other shitty itemization then complains about sion being weak when sion has 52% win rate** > > so i'm sorry, but don't come and talk to me about skill when you can't play the game Such as this, you're basically telling another player to fuck off on the boards because of their playstyle and elo. I've been told by plenty of bronze and silver to git gud while being d5, I don't complain, it doesn't bother me, and I don't call them out on not knowing how to play the game esp. on the boards. > so? that doesn't mean i'm wrong > it just means i'm right on things that you do not encounter > > but low elo catch ups 3 months later > > just like ivern > lulu > tristana > all those picks that i said were broken but no one cared except 3 months later You're not wrong in this scenario, personally I don't even remember these post, but you're not wrong here. These are the post to focus on. There are just better tones to use when replying to a post. Such as your reply to me already began with "you're wasting my valuable time" in a sense.
SanKakU (NA)
: So why don't people ban supports more often?
: except riot was too fucking stupid to even realize that enchanters are horribly designed champions with 0 skill whatsoever. And they chain buffed their items along with ADC's and now we're stuck with this garbage meta.
Yea, overall enchanters had a long history of ruining the game. I remember when enchanters used to go mid sometimes or primarily, don't miss those.
: The game is so much more enjoyable when there aren't any enchanters played
Its a viscous cycle of metas becoming worse and worse to the point we miss what we hated based on what we hate less. {{champion:63}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:90}} "BOT LANE IS CANCER, SUPPORTS DO MORE THEN THE MIDS, NERF PLZ" {{champion:117}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:16}} "ENCHANTERS ARE BROKEN, ARDENT IS TOXIC, LETS GET BACK TO AP SUPPORTS" I'll make a prediction here: {{champion:12}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:44}} "TANKS SUPPORTS ARE DIVING, UNKILLABLE, CC IS BROKEN OP NIGHTBLUE IS SPAMMING THEM JG AGAIN MAKE ENCHANTERS GOOD AGAIN SO i CAN CS ALSO WHY IS ALISTAR AND KALISTA JG DIVING ME" We don't see an ideal meta and stick to it, instead we complain how cancer a meta is, and then when its gone we wish it back... and then when the new meta is gone along with the old one, another one shows up which we hate... and then finally we're back to the meta we didn't mind as much, except it's magically 10x worse then we remember and we continue the viscous cycle. Mid season reminded me why tank metas feel so unplayable and uninteractive.
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: Riot, could you fix the mistake in the LP system?
> [{quoted}](name=kaizenV,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HJI53X3N,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-19T16:08:32.836+0000) > > There's a logical mistake in the LP system. > > We can drop to lower tier if we lose one game at 0LP. And we can end up at 60 (or so) LP when that happens. We might need to win 4 games (if we dropped) If you dropped from a tier (after realistically 3-5 chances to stay) then it seems only fair that your MMR isn't quite there and you start with less LP in the lower tier you dropped to. Don't get me wrong I hate promos, its a dumb system that could use improvement, but this right here isn't a problem. > Of course, if you play enough, you end up climbing even with 51% winrate. But if you don't have the time to play a lot, you never get anywhere close to your "true" rank (the highest tier where you'd win 50% of games). Your highest tier is your skill gate. If you're hovering inbetween 2 tiers and in the constant loop of win/lose one, then that's probably around where you do belong. If you belong higher, it'll be much smoother. Smurfs don't usually have these lose win patterns for this reason, its not their skill gate and they're fully capable of pushing through what's holding them back in this scenarios.
: "Bad" Girls vs "Good" Girls
Only like 20% of that bad girls list are even "bad" girls.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdsAHEaU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-18T22:33:52.336+0000) > > {{champion:19}} {{champion:6}} turned out fine. Those were reworks where he was given clear directions. Now he's creating anothe manifestation from his own mind.
> [{quoted}](name=LesVitesses,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdsAHEaU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-18T22:35:36.214+0000) > > Those were reworks where he was given clear directions. Now he's creating anothe manifestation from his own mind. They were gutted from scratch really. There was nothing stopping him from giving urgot 10 blinks and WW 50 animation cancels.
: CertainlyT's new champion
{{champion:19}} {{champion:6}} turned out fine.
: Wait what? Personal shops are out again?
Yea, Kinda random tbh but they're there on the front page when you restart the client.
: MFW I play Veigar for the first time, and get S rank
I guess you can say his learning curve is.. _short_ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Drevil_million_dollars.jpg
: 19th of September is the international talk like a pirate day
: We're not even in a marksman meta...
Its both tbh. The issue is if you make supports shit, ADCs are strong enough to carry them off of raw late game damage. If you make ADCs shit, the supports will be strong enough (their items more specifically) to bandaid the ADCs. Right now its two cancers forming the same tumor that is bot lane. But at least the support can't 1v1 the assassin, like ADCs for some reason are feeling obligated to do and get away with it.
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