Rioter Comments
: Can someone please explain to me this?
Damage mitigation refers to damage that's prevented via Armor and Magic Resist, as well as shields. However, if Rengar had something like Ravenous Hydra or another Lifesteal item, he'd heal back damage taken rather than mitigating it. That can make the numbers look funny.
: So I'm looking at the Summoner's Code for reasons, and...
{{sticker:poppy-wink}} Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, um....HAMMER!
: Why are ADCs so scared of the more mechanical ADC picks in the game?
A LOT of comments in this thread are getting removed. However, the original statement and purpose of the thread *seem* fine, so I'm going to be nice and leave it up. THAT BEING SAID, *keep the conversation civil*, otherwise I will lock it and point you to the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). This means: * No insulting someone's account level * No insulting someone's intelligence * No rank shaming Among other things not listed. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: Thankyou that was heartwarming! Im going to play bots indefinatly now, bye!
No problem you have fun {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: I had a bad team and i was asking if they needed any help and they said not from a noob lol. thanks for the advise it really helps.
They sound like bums and I would drag them by their ears to your room and make them say sorry if I could. Jokes aside, some people blow off their bad self esteem issues on you, but for what it’s worth you did really well by offering to help them despite it all. Sometimes you can get through to them and it’s awesome when it happens.
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3cbgqLQP,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-06T18:51:23.721+0000) > > It starts with accountability. > > I get it, it's frustrating when your teammates aren't doing well. But believe it or not, a more productive answer to '[Champion] why are you feeding' or any similar sentiment is 'How can I help [lane, champion] do better?' > > I will admit, I am not the best at playing this game. Many of us aren't. But a solid mindset that even professionals will tell you, is to make sure you realise that *you can only control yourself.* > > Bot lane behind for x reasons? See if there's an opportunity to help them. If not, snowball another lane. Don't be an ass to them. > Jungle full of death? Ward safely, avoid chasing kills through there, and communicate your needs. > > There is a reason that pings exist; to communicate effectively in a minimal amount of time. > > I will admit, I am not immune to letting frustration out in-game. It took me a long time to learn that doing so is problematic, and only makes my life worse. So even if I'm tilted, I will do my best despite being angry at my team to figure out what *I* can do. > > Dying a lot? Focus on playing back and staying safe. > Vision down? Place wards any safe place I can. > > Yelling at your teammates, or even questioning their decisions after the fact, sets you up for failure. It's a team game, but for some reason (especially below Gold from my experience) there's this unfortunate mentality that you're the only one who matters. Granted, there are several design elements in the game that make this perception valid. But, since the players can't control Riot, we have to start with someone. And that's ourselves. Answer me this question. I got permanently banned from being frustrated of playing this game. For me Its sickening to watch people not understanding the basics like you mentioned. You mentioned dying a lot primarly because you can argue people dont play that role. As a result 4 other people have to suffer because of this. Where do we draw the line at yelling at our teammates, expectations? A lot of players from my experience are very selfish individual picking master yi , yasuo etc instead of looking at what the team needs. I get angry because people can just go to rank with zero CARE and think its ok to screw other people over. If we complain or just tilt we get punished but not that action that led to it. I want to play a good game just want your opinion on my vent. Its hard to address accountability when others won't even meet you half way and just keep feeding and farming. Its just practice to them and blame its "preseason".
> Where do we draw the line at yelling at our teammates, expectations? You don't yell at them. Period. There is no psychological benefit to bitching at people on your team, regardless of how mad you are. Regardless of how much *you* think they deserve it. Abuse the hell out of the systems in place to get them banned, if you must. Recognise that there will be games where people won't play the way you want them to. Accept the fact that you are not the be-all, end-all decision maker in a team full of random people, assuming you're playing Solo Queue. You're right, people will choose champions or play selfishly. That's on them. If you want something to be different, you have to use the resources at your disposal to accomplish that. Your teammates are not resources at your disposal.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Well, my ISP is still blocking Twitch. Good to know.
That's unfortunate. I'm glad you wanted to stop by though! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Maybe I'll do it again some time.
Rioter Comments
: Not really cryptic, as the sun is what makes the moon visible at night hence “the same light”.
Shhhh I'm not good at words lol Maybe ominous was more accurate.
Reksee (NA)
: Aurelion Sol Voice Lines through 5 layers of google translate
> "You and Diana draw the same light.” This is poetic and cryptic as fuck and I am so here for the fist fight that would start.
: Why not fix the bad matchmaking and ridiculous MMR system? In fact just get rid of the MMR system and do a straight ranked ladder. And as for your suggestion of helping a failing lane: Do you play this game? I don't know how many times I will gank a lane several times in a couple minutes and they just face plant the moment I leave their lane. It's not like you can just baby-sit a failing lane. I mean, you can, but whatever you were supposed to be doing will then fail too. You can't baby sit bot because then your mid gets to free farm and take your turret. The game doesn't work the way you are suggesting.
> And as for your suggestion of helping a failing lane: > Do you play this game? I do, in fact, play this game. I play it a lot, actually. Which is why I left an open-ended if/else statement with regard to *one* facet of a complex strategy-infused game: > Bot lane behind for x reasons? See if there's an opportunity to help them. **If not, snowball another lane.** *** > Why not fix the bad matchmaking and ridiculous MMR system? In fact just get rid of the MMR system and do a straight ranked ladder. That doesn't in any way negate any need for personal accountability and integrity on behalf of the players, and *furthermore*, > Granted, there are several design elements in the game that make this perception valid. But, since the players can't control Riot, we have to start with someone. And that's ourselves. I mention that too. This isn't about what Riot needs to do. It's about what we can, and need, to do. *** > The game doesn't work the way you are suggesting. Not right now, no, because of a set of complex problems, one of which I'm trying to suggest here, some of the suggestions of which I've actually used to turn an open allied Nexus into a well-deserved win.
: TBH I feel that none of this would matter if Riot would fix it's matchmaking. Well, not so much "fix" as much as _improve_ it. It feels like every game I'm being grouped with half a team who should be playing intermediate bots. **That** is something that I feel leads to the most toxicity and flaming in this game, moreso than just general tilting from losses or such. If the matchmaking system took into account your lane, role (ADC, Support, Mage, Tank, etc), and stats depending on the role (minions/minute, k/da, damage healed/dealt/taken, vision score, etc) then the health of this community would probably improve. Besides all that, having been playing this game for going on 7 years now, the first five of which were full of boards constantly drilling the idea of "It's not them, it's you" into my head...at this point, if I'm still having the same damn complaints, it's probably not me. It feels even worse when you _do_ give advice as respectable as possible yet you're on teams with players who only care about doing things their way.
> Granted, there are several design elements in the game that make this perception valid. But, since the players can't control Riot, we have to start with someone. And that's ourselves. I account for this. It's a tangential point to what I'm trying to make. Fixing the problem *begins* with everyone acknowledging the role they play *within* the problem. Being toxic, and taking your frustrations on people when you shouldn't be is *our* problem, not Riot's. Yes, inb4 'multibillion dollar/small indie company' lines come up again, they *could* do better, but consistently blaming them and refusing to even contribute to the betterment of the League community is a cop-out at best. Absolutely hold them accountable for the problems you're seeing that they can control, but you also have a responsibility to hold yourself accountable as well. League is not just about each individual player. It's about how we work at fixing this, without being absolute shitheels to each other in the process.
: Nobody ever does and you call yourself a moderator. NOBODY will focus on not dying, they will walk RIGHT back into lane and do it again because people who arn't from English speaking countries are stupid. I've been playing this game long enough to know. Feel free to ban me but its true. Games aren't winnable in most cases, comebacks are not possible with the current state of the game
I didn't say that comebacks are always possible. However, this current communal feeling of 'woe is me, Riot is ruining *my* game' is counterintuitive to a team environment. The consistent self-centredness of players, as a result of many many factors, contributes to this problem. I am addressing one problem, however complex its roots may be. My being a moderator on the Boards has little to no impact on whether or not I can or want to control other players in-game.
Padoµch (EUNE)
: > Yelling at your teammates, or even questioning their decisions after the fact, sets you up for failure. There is a sadly big difference when you are playing in low Silver, and in higher elo. When my bott lane goes 2/9 in the early game, then they group mid, we cannot really stop them. In that moment the toxicity rises to the stratosphere. The higher elo you get, the more toxicity you come across. Its because you may be playing well, but when someone screws up 2 times, you are punished, with virtually no chance of comeback.
I am aware of this. I am also intimately aware of how much blood, sweat, and tears went in to those players getting to where they are. That does not excuse their behaviour in the slightest. If they choose to vent their anger at their teammates instead of things they have control over, that is not my problem. The consequences of their actions are also not my problem. This ties in with my point with regard to the current game's design; factors with regard to balance contribute to feelings of helplessness, and some people lash out at the lack of control.
: This is the mentality I've since adopted getting back into league. However, I can only let out huge sighs playing this game every time I see my teammates get slapped around. Some times, them playing poorly makes me take bigger risks, which, if they don't pay off, ends up with me playing more poorly. Of course, that's still on me. But even with accountability, it won't help you win a game if your team isn't up to par. All in all, still a good read.
There will be bad teams and good teams. I've never disputed that. I'm also not disputing the fact that poor players will, inevitably, disappoint and frustrate. The key to understanding this: * it is alright to be frustrated * it is not alright to sabotage your teammates with that frustration If people cannot be patient enough to respect you saying 'I'm tilted, I need a minute to regroup,' that's on them. And their responses to you communicating your needs are also on them. Be open, be honest, but do not be cruel.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: Nobody is going to listen to you, you know. People are just going to continue doing the same mistakes all game, not once trying to change their play style, and only flaming their better teammates for not babysitting them. Do you know why people complain about damage so much these days? It's because now their mistakes are taxed much more harshly than before, when they could get away with the dumbest thing imaginable.
They don't have to listen to me. But that doesn't stop me from wanting to help people play better.
Aladoron (EUW)
: > report won't do anything, because i heard that reports only count for things written ingame or after the game. You might have heard this, but this is not true. Even the pre- and postgame chats are included in the chatlogs. > Can i still report this player somehow, even i couldn't report? You can still report the to the support manually. <Removed by Moderation> Ps.: Do people really assume you are muslim, just because your name contains Hasan? I might be stupid, but I would never think about it... Edit: Was the "allahu aksomething" YOUR line in the chatlog?
I've edited chunks of your comment, because they either toe the line or jump right over parts of the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). Please be respectful to people. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
Jo0o (NA)
: Because I've been on these boards for years and never seen a permanent ban this obvious reversed, and I'm genuinely confused.
I would love to provide insight on that, but I genuinely have no access to information that could provide such for you. Nor, even if I could, would I have permission to do so. I'm sorry.
Jo0o (NA)
: Hi! Explain what's going on in this thread, please.
I would love to, but that requires catching up, which I'm unable to do at this point. Also...why?
Jeoster (EUW)
: It's not even as much people feeding, the same people will also refuse to surrender a game they lost and basically hold you hostage. This both frustrates you for the next game and ruins your time for the current one, and leaving isn't an option. And to be honest, If I where to be a bit of a devil's advocate, letting out the bile that the other player has been responsible for can be liberating, obviously it's not going to make you win, but some things are just lost anyway, so you might as well let them have it. Of course do it in ways that won't get you banned. PS: I am not advocating flaming, but the nature of the game is such that it promotes it at least in some situations and complete pacifism isn't good either nor is it going you to feel better nor is it in fact going to make you magically win a game that is too far gone either.
> It's not even as much people feeding, the same people will also refuse to surrender a game they lost and basically hold you hostage. An unfortunate consequence of the current set of attitudes, yes. Still not a justification for taking your anger out on, or insulting, your teammates. Breathe, see what you *can* control in the given situation, and move forward. Just because you accept something doesn't mean you have to like it. > And to be honest, If I where to be a bit of a devil's advocate, letting out the bile that the other player has been responsible for can be liberating, obviously it's not going to make you win, but some things are just lost anyway, so you might as well let them have it. Of course do it in ways that won't get you banned. No. They may be responsible in part for how you feel, but they in no way justify or are responsible for *your actions* as a result of how they made you feel. Do unto others, and all that jazz. If you're still angry after that match, for various reasons, the best solution is to play a different game mode at the very least, or take a break. > PS: I am not advocating flaming, but the nature of the game is such that it promotes it at least in some situations and complete pacifism isn't good either nor is it going you to feel better nor is it in fact going to make you magically win a game that is too far gone either. The game does not promote flaming in the slightest. In fact, the Terms of Service and Summoner's Codes explicitly advocate and have rules set *against* flaming. The issue at hand is again, other players. You can either become like them and aggravate the problem, or attempt to take the powers you do have and work toward being a part of the solution.
: In no way is flaming a good thing but just to add a counter point, Blaming myself when my team mates lose a 3v1 when I was taking an objective or in another lane is not going to make me a better player it is just going to ruin the game for me. So while you should not blame others for your mistakes don't blame yourself for other people's mistakes. Overall remember if that some people are only seeing League as a game to have fun in and not a do or die situation. (Also don't purposely play poorly unless you are on a team with all bots because you will be ruining the game for someone). Other wise this post is great.
You are in no way responsible for your teammate's decisions. Nor did I say as much. Absolutely don't blame yourself for something someone else did, they're out of your control. The only request I have for the reasonable people out there is to not rub those poor decisions your teammates make in their faces. That helps no one.
AICMan (EUNE)
: Racism even in a video game
ALRIGHTY THEN. This thread's done. I'm going through, and I'm cleaning up the more egregious abuses of the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE), and it's being locked indefinitely. I will remind people that **Pejorative Language**, **Politics**, and **Spam** are not the place for the Boards, let alone *Player Behaviour*. You'll get a notification if your comment[s] were deleted. There's just entirely too much going on in this thread, that started out valid *because it's referencing specific behaviours of players*, and devolved into something that isn't appropriate here, nor does it seem to be salvageable at this point. OP, or anyone whose posts have been deleted, if you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
Trij (EUW)
: Report system abuse
Behaviour like you just outlined, unfortunately, isn't preventable. And because of many complex variables, people can, and often will, turn into trolls at the drop of a hat if you treat them badly. The answer to this, from a player perspective, is much like the age old adage, *Don't Feed the Trolls.* Accept the fact that your game will be difficult at best, and work with what you have. Additionally, [Player Support](http://support.riotgames.com) has specific dropdown menus for this. Report them. Give op.gg links. Put a digital face to a digital name. Behaviour like intentional feeding and subtle trolling *cannot be detected by machines, because machines aren't behaving like that.* We've a ways to go before this is a thing that can be insta-banned. We have to be reactive to a growing problem. I see more people declaring that they're going to turn into trolls because they got banned for saying words they agreed not to say when they made their account. People are deliberately causing more problems and in turn making their own experiences worse. Accountability is important. Riot, I'm absolutely positive, knows that this is a problem. I have no doubt that they're trying to find ways to get this problem addressed. But what we seem to lack right now, is patience and good sense to not make the problem worse before they can make it better.
Rioter Comments
: Why is Amumu always depressed?
WOMP WOMP okay this actually made my day better thank you for your existing {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: > * All Might Bear: i wish I could express in words how bad this MF, Talon, and Kha are without getting banned. > * All Might Bear: mastery 7 but cant dodge a naut hook or Urgot flip > * All Might Bear: Report teemo, trolling and INTing > * All Might Bear: otherwise you&#x27;re just a level 58 noob, takes teemo adc, then feeds, and still claims to be good > * All Might Bear: you&#x27;re bad, and thats okay These maybe be negative without context of the game or the responses but I have a hard time believing any of the above comments are "extememly inflammatory" and/or merit a permanent suspension from the game.
Please refer to a later part of the post, that you appear to have missed. > For you to have gotten yourself a permaban from these two games tells me that you have a consistent pattern of making your teammates' lives hell, at the expense of their wins, their enjoyment and your honour level. Having a history of negative behaviour, even ‘mild’ negative behaviour, has an impact on whether or not people will want to play with you as a teammate. If you’re not acting like a teammate, and consistently doing the opposite, then the environment is not for you.
Spotty (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:08:41.165+0000) > > You&#x27;re more than welcome to think that, but it&#x27;s still incorrect. > > Not voting is definitely unequal to voting either in the affirmative or the denial. It&#x27;s the voting definition of &#x27;Maybe,&#x27; &#x27;Unsure,&#x27; or &#x27;Prefer Not to Say.&#x27; listen, i used a dictionary definition, you made up some definition to support your claim. Show me where if someone doesnt vote they disagree in the dictionary and I will take you seriously
> [{quoted}](name=Spotty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:10:54.824+0000) > > listen, i used a dictionary definition, you made up some definition to support your claim. Show me where if someone doesnt vote they disagree in the dictionary and I will take you seriously I, too, used a dictionary definition. I linked it in my first comment, to be precise. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unanimous I did not say that someone who abstains from a vote is disagreeing. I said that abstention from a vote is *neither* agreement nor disagreement, and cannot be presumed to be either. It's disingenuous.
Spotty (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:03:20.167+0000) > > That is not how Abstension works. To abstain from voting, you neither consent nor refuse an action. The absence of refusal is not consent, nor vice versa. I dont think thats how it works
> [{quoted}](name=Spotty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:04:15.645+0000) > > I dont think thats how it works You're more than welcome to think that, but it's still incorrect. Not voting is definitely unequal to voting either in the affirmative or the denial. It's the voting definition of 'Maybe,' 'Unsure,' or 'Prefer Not to Say.'
Spotty (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:01:17.115+0000) > > Unanimous: > > * 1 : formed with or indicating unanimity : having the agreement and consent of *all* > > Emphasis mine. Five people on a team, five votes. Four Yes and one Abstension is not full agreement or consent for the team. > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unanimous if 3 people agree then no one disagreed which means EVERYONE AGREED
> [{quoted}](name=Spotty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9M15fHWQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T07:02:35.502+0000) > > if 3 people agree then no one disagreed which means EVERYONE AGREED That is not how Abstention works. To abstain from voting, you neither consent nor refuse an action. The absence of refusal is not consent, nor vice versa.
Spotty (NA)
: Since riot employees dont have a good vocab I will help you out
Unanimous: * 1 : formed with or indicating unanimity : having the agreement and consent of *all* Emphasis mine. Five people on a team, five votes. Four Yes and one Abstention is not full agreement or consent for the team. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unanimous
: "Riot is going through my internet history and stealing my information!"
Don't forget to turn up the volume on that Youtube music video first! GET HYPE {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: Why was I permanently banned? (chat logs + matches linked)
The biggest culprits, in no particular order: * All Might Bear: i wish I could express in words how bad this MF, Talon, and Kha are without getting banned. * All Might Bear: mastery 7 but cant dodge a naut hook or Urgot flip * All Might Bear: Report teemo, trolling and INTing * All Might Bear: otherwise you're just a level 58 noob, takes teemo adc, then feeds, and still claims to be good * All Might Bear: you're bad, and thats okay None of these lines, even out of context, are in any way fostering a positive or even productive team environment. We get it, stress happens, but taking it out on your teammates is not okay. Further, calling for reports on someone is not only ineffective, but griefing. All it takes is a single report for the system to go 'Hey, I should look at this' before issuing a punishment of some kind if it is warranted. For you to have gotten yourself a permaban from these two games tells me that you have a consistent pattern of making your teammates' lives hell, at the expense of their wins, their enjoyment and your honour level. Calling out a teammate's poor performance during a match is not something that should be tolerated. People have bad games. They happen. Further, *if* someone is trolling, then that's something you're responsible for alerting Riot to, in order for those bans to occur. If you don't, then your license to complain after your own poor behaviour [if there is any] is moot.
Birdfcker (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mRyijsu4,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-02T04:52:52.881+0000) > > <Removed by Moderation> he isn't wrong, it's even stated in the TOS that you don't even own your account and anything you bought with rp or be :)
> [{quoted}](name=Birdfcker,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mRyijsu4,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-02T06:06:41.899+0000) > > he isn&#x27;t wrong, it&#x27;s even stated in the TOS that you don&#x27;t even own your account and anything you bought with rp or be :) Heya! I've edited out the quoted part of your post since it was against the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). You're not in trouble though, don't worry. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: > [{quoted}](name=After3perma,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ixTBnEdk,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-02T10:01:52.875+0000) > > Maybe if Electro/PtA/Comet didn’t have no cooldowns and if they worked on more than one target at a time then yeah the damage would be higher, but right now they deal like 1000 damage all game. > > Notice how I said no cooldowns and if they worked on more than one target at a time. That’s Conqueror. Again, they do not unless you suck at doing damage. Notice how I pointed out your bullshit values and said “in the same time frame” as well? Thanks for downvoting me and addressing nothing. Reporting the thread for spam
Hi yes hello, please don't report something for spam if it doesn't fit within the definition inside the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE): * Posting content not related to the discussion. * Posting a discussion or comment repeatedly, or across multiple sub-boards. * Posting designed to bait conversation or falsify content. * Posting designed to spoil things (movies, shows, books, etc.) for other players * Posting repetitive non-constructive or low-effort content. * Bumping of discussions while adding no meaningful content. * Excessive emoji / icon spam. * Necromancy of old discussions. OP of the thread at least is trying to foster discussion, but we can touch on any other concerns within the thread that you have on a case by case basis, especially if they're reported. Overall I'm willing to let a lot of this slide but please keep it civil. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: I'd probably feel safer if I was not near a cannon. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} ######But Happy New Years!
> [{quoted}](name=HeyItzSteve,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vI2tbEFv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-01T09:45:34.047+0000) > > I&#x27;d probably feel safer if I was not near a cannon. > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} > > ######But Happy New Years! Shhh I can put pillows around you before I fire it {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Rioter Comments
: Yeah It's pretty clear that your stance is "Punish all AFKS, regardless of whether they deserve it or not, whether its a 4v5 or a 1v100, whether the entire team unanimously decides to give up or not". So I'll leave you with 2 quick things since you seem real eager to wrap up this argument. Here's The Pyke's Match History: https://imgur.com/a/hQ1yu1x This 15 Minute theory of yours seems to be wrong. Maybe try 12 hours or another tangible amount of time as an excuse for why this guy hasn't been punished. And let me remind you that I got a leaverbuster INSTANTLY right after that "game" concluded. While this guy, a 2 time troll, hasn't been touched in the last 6 hours. And now let me summarize a system put in place in Dota 2, a similar game. In Dota 2, if someone afks for more than 5 minutes, you are allowed to leave the game, and start a new one. You still lose LP or whatever point system they use, but you are still allowed to not only LEAVE, but also BEGIN a new game without being punished. What fancy technology is Dota 2 using? It's called FAIRNESS: <Removed by Moderation>
I told you once, to keep your conversations civil. I know this discussion is intense for you, but you cannot break the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE) just because you're heated about a discussion and people are not agreeing with you. I've edited out the belittling stuff at the end. Keep it civil. I won't say it again. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=e3rnWE5K,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-31T03:18:15.939+0000) > > The answer to unsportly behaviour is not, despite what many people will tell you, more unsportly behaviour. > > There is a logical fallacy in philosophy, called *Two Wrongs*. Someone else&#x27;s poor behaviour does not, under any circumstances, justify your own poor behaviour. It will suck, and you will feel awful, but the best preservation of the environment in this game is to counter the toxicity, trolling, and *straight up bullshit* by doing your very best with what you have. > > Sometimes, that will mean taking losses, muting literally everything chat and ping wise, and playing alone. Sometimes you will win by sheer luck of the carry, exploiting the enemy team&#x27;s mistakes if they make them. > > Would I like to see a task force specifically designed for adjusting player behaviour in-game to make this place less toxic? Absolutely. > > But all I can do, as an individual, is breathe through the tilt, keep going, and try not to compromise my own account. > > Good luck. What Unsportsmanlike behavior was I showing? The game was over and the 8 other players had accepted it. The enemy team pushed to end quickly and the 3 other players on my team didn't stop them. You want to talk logic? Find me the logic in me getting a leaverbuster plus -21 LP when one of my teammates was set on intentionally losing the game. Imagine if I kept going, tried my hardest, and ended up delaying an inevitable loss. What's more toxic to you, me letting the enemy end the 4v6 or me delaying this game to 18 minutes delaying the enemy team 1v5 to waste more of their and my teammates time?
> What Unsportsmanlike behavior was I showing? The game was over and the 8 other players had accepted it. The enemy team pushed to end quickly and the 3 other players on my team didn't stop them. "Kayn goes afk and I go move around at base to avoid getting a leaverbuster (advice given by the enemy Soraka)" Whether or not someone else gives you advice, if it violates the Summoner's Code, it violates the Summoner's Code. You can resign yourself to a loss, but if even one player on your team wants to keep trying, you owe it to them to also try. Beyond that, you can play defensively while still allowing the loss, relinquishing turrets and trying to stay alive. Sitting and doing nothing isn't inherently noble before a surrender vote can happen. > You want to talk logic? Find me the logic in me getting a leaverbuster plus -21 LP when one of my teammates was set on intentionally losing the game. That is an unfortunate side effect of playing League of Legends at the moment. Doesn't matter what rank you are, if you play ranked at all, you should be well aware of this. The answer to this is to suck it up, continue to play, and report the players who cause problems. Contributing to the problem doesn't help you, or anyone else who wants to make progress. And, it only serves to get you punished. If you'd continued to make even a little bit of effort, you wouldn't need to be here complaining. Just because you accept something doesn't mean you have to like it. But you *do* have to accept it. > Imagine if I kept going, tried my hardest, and ended up delaying an inevitable loss. What's more toxic to you, me letting the enemy end the 4v6 or me delaying this game to 18 minutes delaying the enemy team 1v5 to waste more of their and my teammates time? That depends entirely on the people on your team, not me. If any of them wanted to get at least something out of it (gold, stats, items, what have you) then you deprived *them* of the opportunity to do so. You're not a martyr here. You're not special because you agreed with one teammate to let the enemy push in and mercifully end the game. Until I know what every other teammate had to say about that game, I'm obligated to hold you to the standard of the Summoner's Code, which you broke. *** In addition, I'm only going to say this once. Keep conversation in this thread civil, or I will be forced to lock it. I've edited your original post to take out insulting comments, because they go against the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: @Riot, What do you want me to do?
The answer to unsportly behaviour is not, despite what many people will tell you, more unsportly behaviour. There is a logical fallacy in philosophy, called *Two Wrongs*. Someone else's poor behaviour does not, under any circumstances, justify your own poor behaviour. It will suck, and you will feel awful, but the best preservation of the environment in this game is to counter the toxicity, trolling, and *straight up bullshit* by doing your very best with what you have. Sometimes, that will mean taking losses, muting literally everything chat and ping wise, and playing alone. Sometimes you will win by sheer luck of the carry, exploiting the enemy team's mistakes if they make them. Would I like to see a task force specifically designed for adjusting player behaviour in-game to make this place less toxic? Absolutely. But all I can do, as an individual, is breathe through the tilt, keep going, and try not to compromise my own account. Good luck.
Hanple (NA)
: We Did It Boys
Heckin B A M B O O Z L E D
: Literal hate speech from 4-man in norms? How to escalate?
The best way to report them is in the post-game lobby, using the little red exclamation point beside their names. Failing that, if for some reason you didn't manage to get that in time, send any and all information you think is relevant to [Player Support](http://support.riotgames.com). They'll have a look and see if anything warrants action. They won't, however, give you any updates on what happens, because that's between the account holders and Riot Games. Good luck. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: is double zhonia an expoit
Buying a second Stopwatch should render it broken, if you already used it before upgrading to Zhonya's. If you didn't, then it's not necessarily clever use of mechanics, it's Stopwatch working as intended.
: Do's and Don'ts Of ranked play.
Don't chase a fed enemy for shutdown gold. *Especially* when you have limited vision.
GigglesO (NA)
: <Removed by Moderation> Tanks only care about after mitigated damage. Conq+ IE makes AA's deal mostly true damage to tanks. Noone gives a shit what the premitigated value is.
Hello! I've edited your comment because part of it goes against the **Golden Rule**: > Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Keep the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE) in mind and be civil please~ {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: > [{quoted}](name=l love Ahri,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NKJYbOEH,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2018-12-27T21:38:33.394+0000) > > What the actual fuck. > > Zed cant solo Darius or tanks. Stop it. Get some help > > The only way Zed can solo Darius and tanks is only if they have the IQ of a rock or if they are really really behind. Even with the IQ of a rock, Zed still cant solo them if they arent behind. They are just too tanky and full lethality build cant do anything against armor. > > Is EUW really that bad? Do you play Darius or are you only a <Removed by Moderation> Zed player? No, with full lethality he stands a very good chance at beating these tanks 1v1. Darius isn't nearly as tanky as other juggernauts such as Garen, Sion, or Urgot are and does good only in long trades where he can get those stacks in or once he already has Noxian might unlocked (Darius is ONLY an immediate threat when he has Noxian might unlocked). He does terrible against characters he can't hit (such as Yi and of course Zed who is so braindead you can press R and take out most squishes with the next hit which follows). I see you're a Zed player from the single Zed match on your account and the forums are filled with one tricks trying to defend their mains. It isn't even uncommon to see a Zed run by with Dusk blade + Ghost blade + Edge of might + Mortal Reminder rush in and start ripping apart tanks like armor meant nothing. If you think having 500 AP was strong you should see the other Zed players who rush in with all that armor pen with 500+ AD late game only to be untargetable due to how safe his abilities make him out to be. I've seldom struggled against Zed in the laning phase (I play Katarina mid lane and it's a skill matchup) but it's after the laning phase where he gets really annoying and starts to two shot people from the safety of his shadow. If you wanna defend a character make sure the character brings some risk to the table along with the rewards. Edit : Throwing in proof <Removed by Moderation> - http://matchup.gg/matchup/Zed/Darius/TOP
Hello! Please remember to keep things civil, per the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE): > Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. I've edited parts of your comment for being in violation of such. If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: Most players that are Diamond and above use this strategy to win their lane. Setting up waves to freeze near their tower so that they are safe while farming against another player whose champion is likely to counter them is a great way to turn the tides of your disadvantage in champ select. It is the way the game is meant to be played. It's called 'strategy', not 'lets buttfuck top lane at 1 and see who decides the lane.' I'm assuming by your post that you play Renekton, a classic early game lane bully who is designed to punish people for trying to cs and trade early in the game. <Removed by Moderation> "Unless it's an extreme counterpick situation such as Gangplank vs Pantheon, you have no reason not to expect to win the lane by csing better, trading better and just understanding the match up better. You don't need towers for any of that, they are just a crutch for garbage players to rely on." So you're saying that people who play to their advantage in a strategy game are bad. Not a lot of champs are gonna want to fight Renekton levels 1-6, doesn't mean they're shit at the game for doing so. Maybe instead of whining about not being able to towerdive level 1-6, you should learn how to play around that, like most people do in strategic PvP games. " PvP (player vs player) game that requires you to actually fight other players and try get an advantage over them to win?" Fight doesn't mean it has to be physical, I can fight you by denying your ability to kill me by playing safe, thus slowly draining your early game power just by surviving and allowing my jungler to easily come up and kill you. xout
Hello! I've edited your post because some parts of it go against the **Golden Rule** of the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE): > Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Keep it civil, please. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx
: > [{quoted}](name=Totally Not Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1zoOLqYB,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T00:00:02.401+0000) > > Long story short, people constantly roast the balance team for not being good at League and therefore making bad decisions. Well I'm not really good at the game so
> [{quoted}](name=OTP Poppy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1zoOLqYB,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-28T20:02:23.601+0000) > > Well I&#x27;m not really good at the game so It's fine, neither am I {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=hallajuice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4HmeaF45,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-28T18:31:43.793+0000) > > <Removed by Moderation> Ok, he is listed as S tier, and? You didn't go into what needs to be nerfed, why he should be nerfed exactly, what areas he needs to be nerfed in, why he has what he has, and just said he needs a nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4HmeaF45,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-28T19:07:18.200+0000) > > Ok, he is listed as S tier, and? You didn&#x27;t go into what needs to be nerfed, why he should be nerfed exactly, what areas he needs to be nerfed in, why he has what he has, and just said he needs a nerf. Heya! I've had to edit the quoted part of your post out since it has since been deleted for going against the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). Nothing of yours is in trouble though, so feel free to keep on keepin' on, for now! If you have questions, feel free to talk to us in the The [Boards Moderation Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qVlculPP-boards-moderation-discord) or the [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board. *Let's just behave! -Said no one ever.* ---Totally Not Jinx {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: Let us Reorder Skills per champion
The trick to doing all of this, and the reason that abilities are varied, is to explicitly develop playstyles and muscle memory per champion. As long as you devote the time to practicing any champion diligently, you'll eventually get to the point where you barely need to think in order to make plays. Every champion has a learning curve, and those curves are all dependent on the skill and dedication of the person learning them. Zyra's kit and ability placement is almost identical to Neeko's, with very few subtle differences. Try using Neeko in the practice tool, and then work your way through bot games, to normals, and then back to ranked. There's no shame in needing time to learn. Everyone needs it.
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