: > [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:55:04.981+0000) > > and i literalyl fucking said "she never gets to late game most of the time" > > honestly, why not just fucking make her less of a late-game threat? she literally is trash-tier bad early. > > i get champs are weak early, but this is fuckign TRASH tier early. like can't evne farm without dying to another champs auto attack bad. i'd literally have a better time play lulu top than kayle. > > instead of making her a god-tier late game, give her a more reasonable scaling throughout. she literally doesn't exist until 11. at all. she's not anything until then. Thats just how some champions are A nasus can go 0/10 and win just because he takes towers If kayle isnt your style there is over 100 other champs to pick from
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:57:39.554+0000) > > Thats just how some champions are > > A nasus can go 0/10 and win just because he takes towers > > If kayle isnt your style there is over 100 other champs to pick from kayle was my style--i was coming here to see if they was any other strategy to play her early game other than "just hide under tower" but apparently not?
: > [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:07:08.343+0000) > > ..... early game... I'm talking about earling game. When its just me and my other top laner. At lvl 1 a Renekton can just dash to stun me, and then auto me to death unless I flash away. Like at lvl 1 I'm mince meat usually. And under tower game play isn't the best strat. Im countered by basically every champion in the game barring like maybe Malphite and Darius She has to be bad early game or she is broken you play vs anyone in lane you will lose Just look to push the game late and play safe thats literally it and if thats not possible then gg Im literally just telling you dont rely on her early to be good because she is a late game champ LATE GAME
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:31:53.801+0000) > > She has to be bad early game or she is broken > > you play vs anyone in lane you will lose > > Just look to push the game late and play safe thats literally it and if thats not possible then gg > > Im literally just telling you dont rely on her early to be good because she is a late game champ > > LATE GAME and i literalyl fucking said "she never gets to late game most of the time" honestly, why not just fucking make her less of a late-game threat? she literally is trash-tier bad early. i get champs are weak early, but this is fuckign TRASH tier early. like can't evne farm without dying to another champs auto attack bad. i'd literally have a better time play lulu top than kayle. instead of making her a god-tier late game, give her a more reasonable scaling throughout. she literally doesn't exist until 11. at all. she's not anything until then.
: > [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-17T02:19:32.016+0000) > > Like I said, I DO do that, but most of the time late game never comes either we win without my assistance or we lose because i couldn't' help sooner. A strategy shouldn't be "hide and pray" i feel. nasus can at least zone with his aoe, Kayle doesn't even have a decent base stat for autoing minions She is very good in team fights as more of a semi backline because by herself she can be very squishy plus her ult works well in team fights You have to really team up to use her correctly and try to avoid 1v1 that might get you caught out by a even more enemy Also she has very powerful wave clear later thats why I said smart plays defending base because they just keep clearing waves fast enough that the enemies dont have minions to get twr with
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T02:39:06.927+0000) > > She is very good in team fights as more of a semi backline because by herself she can be very squishy plus her ult works well in team fights > > You have to really team up to use her correctly and try to avoid 1v1 that might get you caught out by a even more enemy > > Also she has very powerful wave clear later thats why I said smart plays defending base because they just keep clearing waves fast enough that the enemies dont have minions to get twr with ..... early game... I'm talking about earling game. When its just me and my other top laner. At lvl 1 a Renekton can just dash to stun me, and then auto me to death unless I flash away. Like at lvl 1 I'm mince meat usually. And under tower game play isn't the best strat. Im countered by basically every champion in the game barring like maybe Malphite and Darius
: kayle is like nasus you basically have to play mega safe and just wait and wait until you somehow end up carrying If you deny this ive seen soo many kayle that were negative and low on cs but managed to come back and carry the game because of smart plays defending their base and getting their cs up
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-17T01:46:06.931+0000) > > kayle is like nasus you basically have to play mega safe and just wait and wait until you somehow end up carrying > > If you deny this ive seen soo many kayle that were negative and low on cs but managed to come back and carry the game because of smart plays defending their base and getting their cs up Like I said, I DO do that, but most of the time late game never comes either we win without my assistance or we lose because i couldn't' help sooner. A strategy shouldn't be "hide and pray" i feel. nasus can at least zone with his aoe, Kayle doesn't even have a decent base stat for autoing minions
Rioter Comments
: It’s just league. The skill animations flat out lie to you half the time.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OQQzhmk0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-14T16:25:55.255+0000) > > It’s just league. The skill animations flat out lie to you half the time. Gosh thats so frustrating :( It's not really fair that some hitboxes have the width of a hair yet others are as wide as an entire champion and then some--when it supposed to be a "bullet". If it grazed me, then yeah I could totally see that being legit. But on these it literally flew by me entirely. Just super annoying, but if there's nothing to be done then there's nothing to be done :( It's just really annoying that you can't tell if you're gonna dodge it or not, and then you're punished so severely by a Lux root or something
Rioter Comments
: You're spouting off that people dodging shouldn't interfere with **your** time. I'm saying that your time isn't a goddamn concern when it comes to **someone else's** time. If someone wants to dodge and take the potential LPQ instead of being in a game that they don't want to be in, they're doing everyone a **favor** imo. If you're time is so precious that you're this goddamn tilted over another 30 seconds, you **really** need to find something else to do with your spare time than play League. Nobody gives a rat's shit about your 1.5 hours of free time, same as you don't give a rat's shit about anyone's right to dodge. It's a stalemate, and it's going to stay the way it is.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BGUONg9m,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T23:07:49.474+0000) > > You're spouting off that people dodging shouldn't interfere with **your** time. > > I'm saying that your time isn't a goddamn concern when it comes to **someone else's** time. If someone wants to dodge and take the potential LPQ instead of being in a game that they don't want to be in, they're doing everyone a **favor** imo. > > If you're time is so precious that you're this goddamn tilted over another 30 seconds, you **really** need to find something else to do with your spare time than play League. > > Nobody gives a rat's shit about your 1.5 hours of free time, same as you don't give a rat's shit about anyone's right to dodge. It's a stalemate, and it's going to stay the way it is. It's not adding 30 seconds to queue time. It iterally gets into the 15-20, sometimes 30 minute queues waiting for a game because there are dodges for no reason. No troll detected No toxicity detected Nothing happening and just dodges happen left and right. You dont give a shit about anyone else's time or life? "think outside yourself" is what you said, hm? Maybe practice that.
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BGUONg9m,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-10T22:28:28.399+0000) > > Horseshit. If you've been playing since Season 2, you've absolutely dodged at least one game. > > If you have limited time, don't queue up. Riot isn't going to start banning people because they had the audacity to dodge a queue, which is within their rights, and it impacted your precious limited time. > > Try to think outside of yourself. I dont que dodge. and I ahve been playing on and off for..... not sure what seson it was when I started but it been sometime. Now I have had my internet dcon me while in lobby but that is out of my control. Tha being said to what the OP was saying. No they have a punisment in place for thoes of ue dodge to much and if they can live with that well there is not much more that can be done. Because as the seceond person to reply said que dodging is allowed. But its jsut frowned upon.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosLordMadis,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BGUONg9m,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-02-10T23:03:57.021+0000) > > I dont que dodge. and I ahve been playing on and off for..... not sure what seson it was when I started but it been sometime. Now I have had my internet dcon me while in lobby but that is out of my control. Tha being said to what the OP was saying. No they have a punisment in place for thoes of ue dodge to much and if they can live with that well there is not much more that can be done. Because as the seceond person to reply said que dodging is allowed. But its jsut frowned upon. Apparently it's a "right" to dodge. Guarantee that came from the mouth of someone who has never had to fight for a right.
dnsup (NA)
: > I don't care if there's a troll pick. I don't care if someone is being an ass in lobby. That's great. Some people do care, though, and those probably won't want to play the game as much if Riot takes away the only recourse players have in the event of troll picks and toxic matchups. You're basically saying "I don't mind being a hostage, and therefore anyone who _does_ mind being a hostage shouldn't be able to avoid being a hostage. It's not a problem for me, and anyone for whom it _is_ a problem should have to just deal with it."
> [{quoted}](name=dnsup,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BGUONg9m,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-10T22:49:34.665+0000) > > That's great. Some people do care, though, and those probably won't want to play the game as much if Riot takes away the only recourse players have in the event of troll picks and toxic matchups. > > You're basically saying "I don't mind being a hostage, and therefore anyone who _does_ mind being a hostage shouldn't be able to avoid being a hostage. It's not a problem for me, and anyone for whom it _is_ a problem should have to just deal with it." I didn't say ban these players who queue dodge, but this little to no penalty is pretty much catering to the babies who stomp their feet and whine if they dont get their way. "I didnt get my champ! WAH!*dogdes*" "I didnt get my role I wanted?! Wah! *dodges*" "They didn't ban the 4 champs I listed?! Wah! *dodges*" Having a 5 min penalty isn't a penalty. That gives you time to take a pee, get a drink, and by the time you're out of that penalty the people you originally queued qith are likely STILL IN QUEUE because multiple people have dodged. I can get why trolls and stuff are annoying, ya, thats fine. But thats like 5% of the time. MOST dodges, are just random. You sit in the entire lobby, nothing happens, everyone just picking their champs-- then someone dodges last second, And it happens over, and over, and over. It doesn't even have to be a troll or a toxic person to make people dodge. They'll do it just to do it, and I can't fathom why.
: > And let me say, I have literally never, ever, EVER dodged a queue. Horseshit. If you've been playing since Season 2, you've absolutely dodged at least one game. If you have limited time, don't queue up. Riot isn't going to start banning people because they had the audacity to dodge a queue, which is within their rights, and it impacted your precious limited time. Try to think outside of yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BGUONg9m,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-10T22:28:28.399+0000) > > Horseshit. If you've been playing since Season 2, you've absolutely dodged at least one game. > > If you have limited time, don't queue up. Riot isn't going to start banning people because they had the audacity to dodge a queue, which is within their rights, and it impacted your precious limited time. > > Try to think outside of yourself. """dodge a queue, which is within their rights""" its their RIGHT to dodge? xD are you fcking serious? their god given right to dodge a game and waste everyones time? So 1 person not getting their way gets to waste the time of 9 other people? "think outside yourself" has to be the most hypocritical thing you can say if you think its a RIGHT to dodge a game and waste everyone elses time. And if I have an hour and a half to play a game, suddenly 30min in queue fucks up tha chance of being able to play a game at all without risking having to go afk if it goes on long. like you're literally saying "MY time is more valuable than 9 other peoples, so i'll dodge all i want. but your time isn't valuable, because you're selfish and i should be allowed to dodge as much as i want for no reason" like literally every game, there is at LEAST 3 dodges. every. single. time.
Rioter Comments
: ‘Buy 2 mr items To negate her’ There’s your answer. Also if the rest of her team sucks just farm them instead. Abuse the weakest link
> [{quoted}](name=JeaneGreene,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1I9XoJep,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-12T23:29:40.429+0000) > > ‘Buy 2 mr items To negate her’ > > There’s your answer. > > Also if the rest of her team sucks just farm them instead. Abuse the weakest link At 15 min, as a support, NO ONE has enough gold to buy 2 full MR items. magic resist items are like 2800 gold, and when you have 6 assists thats not enough to buy you jack squat. and you can't seek out and hunt a weakest link, because the second LB got fed, it was 5man in the mid lane. no one was ever alone, and even 5v5 we couldn't combat them because LB did just so much damage and we couldn't even negate her with a fed darius and ww
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Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Înnchen,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zGAElMO2,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-05T13:58:00.765+0000) > > Sona cant get a K/DA skin bc sona is in pentakill and they are in the same universe bc if u read the 8 facts from evelynn u can see that she is inspired by karthus (from pentakill). Oh yeah i forgot that I mean, technically she could leave pentakill and join K/DA
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zGAElMO2,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-05T14:09:09.352+0000) > > Oh yeah i forgot that > > I mean, technically she could leave pentakill and join K/DA Saw a lot of comments about a K/DA Manager Taric and as a Taric support main I'm all for it. I mean even his default matches the K/DA sparkly aesthetic
Lenn (NA)
: i would have liked a support skin too, but i can see why they didnt, imo the only support that would have maybe worked in the skin line is zyra and even then i cant imagine it being a better choice than the others they picked janna maybe, but she JUST got a skin
> [{quoted}](name=Lenn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zGAElMO2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-04T23:24:29.404+0000) > > i would have liked a support skin too, but i can see why they didnt, imo the only support that would have maybe worked in the skin line is zyra and even then i cant imagine it being a better choice than the others they picked > > janna maybe, but she JUST got a skin zyra would havbe been perfect, she hasn't gotten a skin in a long time
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Trust me, I'm diamond and I can't last hit for shit. Some champs can really struggle to last hit over others ({{champion:34}} {{champion:18}} come to mind) Just practice it for awhile and practice it for awhile on specific champs. You'll get the hang of it but don't expect LCS results.
> [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cefamj0r,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-28T02:55:27.942+0000) > > Trust me, I'm diamond and I can't last hit for shit. > > Some champs can really struggle to last hit over others ({{champion:34}} {{champion:18}} come to mind) > > Just practice it for awhile and practice it for awhile on specific champs. You'll get the hang of it but don't expect LCS results. For a while I could get away with bad farming, but as I'm climbing into Gold RN i can't skirt by especially if I hope to solo-climb. I'll do the 10min practice thing on Kayle, she's my main top and I do relatively well with her in all my games, even if our team loses. I want to be able to practice roaming more with my top but farming preoccupies me so much T_T
: Have you tried taking Minion demateralizer (def butchered that spelling) in your runes? I've been bringing it when I play AP champs mid who just have the worst autos in the game and it's actually helping. Other then that idk what to tell you because I've played since season 2 so it's pretty easy to last hit now.
> [{quoted}](name=Strawberry Milk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cefamj0r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-28T02:47:40.737+0000) > > Have you tried taking Minion demateralizer (def butchered that spelling) in your runes? I've been bringing it when I play AP champs mid who just have the worst autos in the game and it's actually helping. Other then that idk what to tell you because I've played since season 2 so it's pretty easy to last hit now. Ah I totally forgot about that item. At least for the cannon it will be really helpful, that 80 gold loss really sucks.
Rioter Comments
Subdue (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-09-28T21:44:12.063+0000) > > Retaliation-toxicity is still toxicity. I think it just is an umbrella term for unsportsmanlike behavior. I kind of assume most people on League have never actually been on a team, and whats actually just direct and upfront dialogue can be perceived as toxic because they're not used to being spoken to in a way that isn't all hand-holdy and participation-trophy-esque. If someone saying "Make a play!" is perceived as toxic, and I've seen it, then I really just think that's a sensitive community overreacting, not a truly toxic behavior being cited. Got a chat log of getting banned for "direct and upfront dialogue?"
> [{quoted}](name=Subdue,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-09-28T22:04:29.405+0000) > > Got a chat log of getting banned for "direct and upfront dialogue?" never said i got banned or punished, just said i was reported for silly things
: It looks like you're complaining about other people being sensitive. Sure. Some people are. But then you complain about being labeled toxic, or being taunted by a Renekton. It seems like you should be able to handle words like that.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-28T22:27:15.604+0000) > > It looks like you're complaining about other people being sensitive. Sure. Some people are. But then you complain about being labeled toxic, or being taunted by a Renekton. > > It seems like you should be able to handle words like that. not really complaining so much as social commentary/confusion. because to me, this game doesn't come off as toxic, but i see a lot of accusations in game for relatively mild behavior so i'm honestly just confused on whether its actually toxic or just people being sensitive
: Na is a sensitive region imo. I genuinely hope most people i see in game have never played sports before with the sensitive mentalities they have. I once told a lee sin to "play safe" against a jungle shaco that killed him for the 4th time,the Lee told me that I'm muted and he's going to report me.like i just don't understand. The sensitive mentality people have,is what makes NA a joke region in terms of competitivness. I blame Riot Lyte for most of this.
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2018-09-28T22:51:19.416+0000) > > Na is a sensitive region imo. I genuinely hope most people i see in game have never played sports before with the sensitive mentalities they have. > > I once told a lee sin to "play safe" against a jungle shaco that killed him for the 4th time,the Lee told me that I'm muted and he's going to report me.like i just don't understand. > > The sensitive mentality people have,is what makes NA a joke region in terms of competitivness. I blame Riot Lyte for most of this. yeah i've deff seen that a lot. as a support main i usually have that reaction. "hey be careful" "fuck you you're not my real mom" like, okay lol.
AP Zac (NA)
: Actually, my friend got banned on one of his accounts for jokingly saying "if we don't pick nunu I'm inting" in a one for all, which we all typed "lol" in response to, except for one idiot who screenshotted it and sent in a ticket. Random and unreasonable punishment happens more often than you would think, and I'd be happy to show you proof if you would like it.
> [{quoted}](name=Nunu Bòt,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-28T21:42:42.812+0000) > > Actually, my friend got banned on one of his accounts for jokingly saying "if we don't pick nunu I'm inting" in a one for all, which we all typed "lol" in response to, except for one idiot who screenshotted it and sent in a ticket. Random and unreasonable punishment happens more often than you would think, and I'd be happy to show you proof if you would like it. I can believe it. While I commend Riot for wanting to make League a more friendly area, it tends to veer hard left on who it punishes.
Subdue (NA)
: I'd like to see the reform card where you were penalized for saying "Build Armor." People can report for whatever they want. They can report you if they don't like your name, your champion, your skin. Or they can report you for no reason at all. The key is that even if you're reported, if you've done nothing wrong, you're not penalized. I too rarely encounter toxic players, so I've voted "1. Barely (1 player 20)." But this does not mean I agree with your premise that people are just overly sensitive. Rather, I think some players engage in behaviors which in turn exposes them to a lot of extra retaliatory toxicity.
> [{quoted}](name=Subdue,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-28T21:07:53.961+0000) > > I'd like to see the reform card where you were penalized for saying "Build Armor." > > People can report for whatever they want. They can report you if they don't like your name, your champion, your skin. Or they can report you for no reason at all. > > The key is that even if you're reported, if you've done nothing wrong, you're not penalized. > > I too rarely encounter toxic players, so I've voted "1. Barely (1 player 20)." But this does not mean I agree with your premise that people are just overly sensitive. Rather, I think some players engage in behaviors which in turn exposes them to a lot of extra retaliatory toxicity. Retaliation-toxicity is still toxicity. I think it just is an umbrella term for unsportsmanlike behavior. I kind of assume most people on League have never actually been on a team, and whats actually just direct and upfront dialogue can be perceived as toxic because they're not used to being spoken to in a way that isn't all hand-holdy and participation-trophy-esque. If someone saying "Make a play!" is perceived as toxic, and I've seen it, then I really just think that's a sensitive community overreacting, not a truly toxic behavior being cited.
: it's toxic and sensitive https://i.imgur.com/DBcUtoo.png
> [{quoted}](name=SoundChaosDebug,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERwTEdw2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-28T21:10:39.748+0000) > > it's toxic and sensitive > https://i.imgur.com/DBcUtoo.png that gave me a giggle
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Leyruh (EUW)
: It's a shame you've had ADCs like that. As an ADC main, I greatly appreciate any little thing my support does to help me. It is them that helps you win lane, protects you, and more. All I'll ever do is give advice to my support when I see fit. If they die a lot in lane because they put themselves too far ahead, I'll tell them to play safer for instance. Furthermore, it isn't always the ADC that carries the game. It can be Top, Mid, or even Jungle for what I know. It really depends on your performance and your team's performance. You're doing well as a support. Supports should never have to suicide for an ADC that isn't careful or too "entitled" as you've put it. If the people you're playing with don't acknowledge their mistakes, there's nothing you can do about it. ( they think they're a cut above all other players for sure )
> [{quoted}](name=Leyruh,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgNy3YWF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-14T05:47:51.016+0000) > > It's a shame you've had ADCs like that. As an ADC main, I greatly appreciate any little thing my support does to help me. It is them that helps you win lane, protects you, and more. > > All I'll ever do is give advice to my support when I see fit. If they die a lot in lane because they put themselves too far ahead, I'll tell them to play safer for instance. > > Furthermore, it isn't always the ADC that carries the game. It can be Top, Mid, or even Jungle for what I know. It really depends on your performance and your team's performance. > > You're doing well as a support. Supports should never have to suicide for an ADC that isn't careful or too "entitled" as you've put it. If the people you're playing with don't acknowledge their mistakes, there's nothing you can do about it. ( they think they're a cut above all other players for sure ) I'll do whatever I can to save my ADC, if i know I can make it out alive as well. A lot of my judgement calls are "hm, do i run and they only get 1 kill, or do i just die with my ADC so they dont flame me" Because even if I know 100% i will die trying to save them, they will get up in arms about me not going into a death pit. I wish people had to support once like every 10 games, see what its like.
: as an ADC main, i've been in MANY situations, where we only won because i was able to 1v5 and get the turn around.. ADCs feel the constant pressure to carry (hence the Carry in ad-C) so we tend to like our team to help us get into a situation where we feel comfortable doing just that.. it can get really annoying, when you know exactly how to kill the enemy, but your support wont follow up..
> [{quoted}](name=JoeAnarchy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgNy3YWF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-14T05:27:25.507+0000) > > as an ADC main, i've been in MANY situations, where we only won because i was able to 1v5 and get the turn around.. > ADCs feel the constant pressure to carry (hence the Carry in ad-C) so we tend to like our team to help us get into a situation where we feel comfortable doing just that.. > it can get really annoying, when you know exactly how to kill the enemy, but your support wont follow up.. And it looks like you average almost 8-9 deaths a game with only 4 kills. So idk where your pressure to carry and go 5v1 is. Now a days jg have the most influence over a map imo, to make a good play and get kills for their team and deprive the enemy jg.
: as an ADC main, i've been in MANY situations, where we only won because i was able to 1v5 and get the turn around.. ADCs feel the constant pressure to carry (hence the Carry in ad-C) so we tend to like our team to help us get into a situation where we feel comfortable doing just that.. it can get really annoying, when you know exactly how to kill the enemy, but your support wont follow up..
> [{quoted}](name=JoeAnarchy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgNy3YWF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-14T05:27:25.507+0000) > > as an ADC main, i've been in MANY situations, where we only won because i was able to 1v5 and get the turn around.. > ADCs feel the constant pressure to carry (hence the Carry in ad-C) so we tend to like our team to help us get into a situation where we feel comfortable doing just that.. > it can get really annoying, when you know exactly how to kill the enemy, but your support wont follow up.. When you're 200hp and the enemy duo is full, and you're over extended past river, and I CLEARLY say back up, because an enemy rengar is lvl 7--dont expect your support to follow you into their jg after you tower dive. He didn't even give me a chance to take tower agro. im all for aggressive play, but it still has to be a play.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qvJnEZAi,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-07-27T18:52:10.285+0000) > > As a support main, this is a really stupid request. > > "Forget kit and gameplay, just gimme tits" > > Like, really? > > And Pyke is a support, he was designed as such, and if you know how to play him, he works great--even without KSing and just sharing the gold. Overall, the typical supports are already outnumbered by females. > > {{champion:1}} {{champion:40}}{{champion:34}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:143}} > > VS > > {{champion:12}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:26}} With Pyke, Maokai and Galio all as valid supports, that at least ties your current lists.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qvJnEZAi,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2018-07-27T19:51:52.306+0000) > > With Pyke, Maokai and Galio all as valid supports, that at least ties your current lists. I considered Maokai but he wasn't designed as a support, same and Brand and Galeo, they just kind of went bot lane to be bullies. I added brand mainly because he's the most common seen in the current meta, but he wasn't deisgned as a support in mind. same for veigar and such. annie wasn't designed for it, but i see her in bot a lot. i made my list off what is most played, and by design. Pyke, i just straight up forgot to inclue
: New female support... when?
As a support main, this is a really stupid request. "Forget kit and gameplay, just gimme tits" Like, really? And Pyke is a support, he was designed as such, and if you know how to play him, he works great--even without KSing and just sharing the gold. Overall, the typical supports are already outnumbered by females. {{champion:1}} {{champion:40}}{{champion:34}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:143}} VS {{champion:12}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:26}}
: i got ban for toxic
Because people would rather play with someone goofing off than an a**hole. Glad you're banned.
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ceQWjZZY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T17:07:05.195+0000) > > It procedes to get exponentially worse the higher you go. Gold is a salt fest As I've experience from gameplay and board postings: Bronze is just bad players. Alright people by they get frustrated easily. Silver is where ego sets in. Still bad players, some are bronze but had a good win streak. Arrogant but generally okay players. Gold is where the humbling comes in. SAAAAAAALT for days, but people are at least willing to admit mistakes. Plat is silver but even more arrogant. Diamond is where things really even out. Still negativity here and there but more people willing to shut up and play the game than anything.
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ceQWjZZY,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-07-18T17:19:31.687+0000) > > As I've experience from gameplay and board postings: > Bronze is just bad players. Alright people by they get frustrated easily. > > Silver is where ego sets in. Still bad players, some are bronze but had a good win streak. Arrogant but generally okay players. > > Gold is where the humbling comes in. SAAAAAAALT for days, but people are at least willing to admit mistakes. > > Plat is silver but even more arrogant. > > Diamond is where things really even out. Still negativity here and there but more people willing to shut up and play the game than anything. This is what I find interesting. A lot of my friends are high elos, so when I play with them its in Normals(obvi), and I always ask for tips and stuff to become a better player. When I go into my own Ranked games, heaven forbid I get to do anything I learned or practiced. Ward placements are different, strategy is so different, and like I said before just trying to get your ADC to synergise with you and work on positioning is almost impossible.
Giggitz (NA)
: We need a better support
Voldymort (EUNE)
: It procedes to get exponentially worse the higher you go. Gold is a salt fest
> [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ceQWjZZY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T17:07:05.195+0000) > > It procedes to get exponentially worse the higher you go. Gold is a salt fest This gives me 0 motivation to play Ranked, if it's just going to me saltier people and more abuse. It's gotten so bad I refuse to play with anyone who I don't know personally, who can't trash talk me without worrying about actually facing me irl.
: Silver's the worst imo. A bunch of egos high on "Well I'm not bronze so I'm great at the game" juice.
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ceQWjZZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-18T16:36:37.425+0000) > > Silver's the worst imo. A bunch of egos high on "Well I'm not bronze so I'm great at the game" juice. I'm morbidly curious to see what higher tiers are. Maybe I just have gotten lucky when I play with my friends, not experiencing any negativity.
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: Yeah i've been waiting to get a good champ like veigar or syndra, but i own neither of them, and cant afford them either
> [{quoted}](name=CauseSCIENCE,realm=OCE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=wshwvjMz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-04T00:05:50.791+0000) > > Yeah i've been waiting to get a good champ like veigar or syndra, but i own neither of them, and cant afford them either Not really what this is about, if you keep getting the same champ over and over thats the problem. I dont care about getting a "bad" champ as much as I carea bout getting a different one. 80% of my games have been Tryndamere and Janna
: Its based on the ARAM changes of the pool. What you own + the current week + previous few free week rotations. Its a baby step in the right direction compared to how it was. Yet it could still be a more expanded pool to create a higher variance games. Having a lower variance pool creates more matches where they feel the same like in ARURF.
> [{quoted}](name=Frosty Hoodoo,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=wshwvjMz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-03T23:53:26.049+0000) > > Its based on the ARAM changes of the pool. What you own + the current week + previous few free week rotations. Its a baby step in the right direction compared to how it was. Yet it could still be a more expanded pool to create a higher variance games. Having a lower variance pool creates more matches where they feel the same like in ARURF. Perfect example, in the time I made this post, I just got {{champion:23}} in back to back games, after already having played him 3 times earlier today as well.
: Its based on the ARAM changes of the pool. What you own + the current week + previous few free week rotations. Its a baby step in the right direction compared to how it was. Yet it could still be a more expanded pool to create a higher variance games. Having a lower variance pool creates more matches where they feel the same like in ARURF.
> [{quoted}](name=Frosty Hoodoo,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=wshwvjMz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-03T23:53:26.049+0000) > > Its based on the ARAM changes of the pool. What you own + the current week + previous few free week rotations. Its a baby step in the right direction compared to how it was. Yet it could still be a more expanded pool to create a higher variance games. Having a lower variance pool creates more matches where they feel the same like in ARURF. I guess, but I do own Trynd and Janna, I havent actually gotten any Freebie champs so far, its just been a lot of the same champs I own over and over, I own like 80, so getting the same 15 champs to play seems incredibly small and its becoming very repetitive and grind-y to me.
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: "ARURF" random, so why am I seeing the same champion EVERY single game without exception ?
Same, and I get fucking {{champion:40}}. This bitch is fucking useless in urf mode since heals and shields are nerfed into the ground all I can do is fly around real fast like an idiot. Ive gotten her 6 times TODAY alone. Why not give me fiddlesticks, or wukong, or any of the other 40 champions I own. Nah, Riot, thanks for giving me Janna. The worst fucking champ in urf.
: 7 queue dodges, thats it? Try 15... I once spent an eternity trying to find a match... and on the pbe its worse, and even worse when new champ/ rework is released... but dodging is manageable.. heck i have even dodged and i really dislike dodgers.. but im not playing with a fuckin karthus jg, or a soraka top, and i certainly do not want a nidalee support... or someone with a shitty artitude.. so i dodge from time to time but i do it sparingly... now imagine a lot of ppl dodging only once... in such a case the numbers add up. Sometimes its necessary but bloody frustrating... i feel you but to an extent its necessary
This isn't a "who's que is worse" pissing contest. And you're part of the exact problem. Fiddle support was considered trolling years ago, now its viable. Brand and viegar are supports now, apparently. As much as I hate it, I'm not gonna queue dodge over it. Just play the game. If you can't win your game because someone went Lux Top, you must not be good enough to compensate. It's never "necessary" to queue dodge. You're just being a baby who didn't get their way.
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Astorine (OCE)
: A lot of the time it is the fact no lane ever set up ganks and the enemy invaded the jungle, so the jungler is underleveled and needs to farm or be 1 shot by a nanu.
In these cases, they were lvl 15 with the rest of us, and had items. Their KDA wasn't even poor, but mostly just un-participative. Like 1/1/3 at 30min in.
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