: So you build something different than just the meta build? Thats illegal you need to be banned. I mean kindred did build mobis right? I mean i dosent matter if you preformed well, I know for a fact kindred preforms well with mobis and he just had a bad game. SO that means you're bannable in your eyes. Neet.
You won't change his mind. Hes actually deadset on being stubborn and not seeing reason and responding like a broken record.
: How does dancing make anything clear? It is not like you can read his mind. It could have been anything. Example, it could have been him trying to bait the enemy into a 3v2, not knowing Kat was coming and when he got away with a flash, the dance was to taunt them into trying to go all in and it failed. Or maybe he was tilted beyond reasonable thought. I have added two possibilities to your example that you think is clear.
He literally does it in all of his games, its common. But apparently the one time it doesn't work the guy thinks hes inting. Also experience in ranked doesn't matter btw. Even though EVERYONE THAT PLAYS IT SAYS IT DOES, the one guy WHO DOESN'T say it doesn't and ridicules us for it. Actually insane. lmao.
Rioter Comments
: Did anyone lose anything from this tho? its pre season everyone is experimenting and having fun until the new season starts. why are you talking about "substantially less effort" everyones playing for fun . yes he infact did do bad (so did his entire team ) he doesnt make a pattern of inting and ruining games tho. To analyze every step and move he made and point a finger and say "yea he inted ban justified" is not the brighest and most just thing . It would be like playing in a game where the score is 30- 6 you have 2 inhibs down and you farm top because you clearly cant contest the fed enemy team pushing mid in . and someone pings you for being top and says "report champion name hes top " . but besides that is him building any other boot going to save this lost game. they were too fed to contest anyway please use a larger sample size than what you have given because on the games and examples you have given are very subjective on whether or not it was "int and should be punished. like its not like he was throwing a winnable game due to purposely poor play. but thanks for the imput these accusations are quite {{summoner:3}} ing to try and explain going through this tiny sample size of what you called "throwing and int"
They're going to ignore your points and say he got hit by a naut hook while BMing because he has never done that in any of his other hundreds of games (That we all watched). Honestly every time trick2g BMs and dies and makes it on synapse lets just perma ban him since he couldve gotten out without BMing and hes very suspicious! Also the man said that a platinum shouldn't play like this yet he hasn't even played in plat and then says its irrelevant that he didn't. ok?
rujitra (NA)
: So.. because Riot can't "catch em all" they shouldn't punish those they can catch? Ignore the mobis if you want - the rest of the evidence is more than enough on its own.
It really isn't. In no world is it. Analyze his other games, literally all of them. He plays basically the same in all of them, dumb decisions or not.
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: I don't think moving into hook range of a Nautilus and starting to dance qualifies as a "bad decision".
Lets say you were drinking. Maybe you thought you could do a hero play. You move into a naut hook. Wow you have now been permabanned. Yep sounds fair.
Hotarµ (NA)
: At first I was pretty skeptical, the games didn't look _too_ bad, but I did some more digging and I'm leaning towards this ban being warranted. Let me explain. ________ ##First and foremost: You never buy mobis on Kindred. Doesn't seem like that big a deal on the surface, but here is why it's important: The only other time you've done this was [**in this game right here**](https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3201824740/246169660?tab=overview), which I assume was the first time you got punished for intentionally feeding. That game was played on 11/10/19, the next game you played was on 11/24/19. A 14 day gap inbetween these games, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first punishment for intentionally feeding is a 14-day suspension. I just think that's very important to note. Buying mobis does not automatically mean someone is intentionally feeding, but when you're punished two times in a row and the first one also had them built, it makes me skeptical and maybe you built them for a reason. In almost every one of your games you go tabi and it's **VERY** interesting to me that in a game with a fed Katarina, a fed Miss Fortune, a fed Nidalee, and a strong Riven/Nautilus, defensive boots didn't cross your mind. ______________ ##Secondly: here's the video evidence of the Kindred game _**(I will edit this comment when I finish the Volibear game)**_ if anyone else wants to follow along and see what I saw. https://streamable.com/4tlaq [_(Here's the direct link if you want to fullscreen it.)_](https://streamable.com/j68wk) Now, in order of the shown clips: - **Q'ed into entire enemy team** - Yeah, I think this one is pretty bad. You walked up, underleveled, Q'ed into the entire enemy team, and then died instantly. This was towards the end of the game, so you should have been playing much more defensively and/or, at the very least, not jumping directly into the entire team. - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF** - Honestly, at first glance this looked like an honest mistake. Maybe you didn't realize they were strong, but either way it seemed a bit fishy and I began to rethink it for various reasons. More on that below. - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF X2** - This is what made me rethink the above point. The area was warded, your team was not around you, you just walked directly into Nautilus and Miss Fortune again. **(EDIT: And while there's no sound in this video, throughout the majority of this game I can hear your team pinging you to back off.) ** - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF, danced, then walked back in and died.**- Same as the first point, this one is really bad. You walked up into lane, danced, got caught in a combo, flashed out, then kind of half-walked into the enemy team. Something that _everyone_ should be taking into consideration: OP is Plat+ and [**is a 673k mastery point Kindred main. **](https://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner?summoner=AZUL+1v9&region=NA) These just don't look right to me knowing all of that, even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you weren't intentionally feeding, you clearly weren't trying here. It shows. __________ #Update: Volibear game reviewed [](https://.) Nothing too bad in this game. Sifted through once on 8x speed, another time on 4x speed. Looked at all the death and teamfight bookmarks, nothing out of the ordinary. The only thing that happened was OP left at 31 minutes after a teamfight death, the game ended at 33 minutes. Honestly, that's a mistake anyone could make (thinking the game is over and preemptively leaving) and while it's not ideal, it usually doesn't get flagged as griefing. _Maybe_ it was included because OP was punished for it previously in that above Kindred game, but I'm leaning towards it just being a mistake. Either way; yeah, OP's first game was super suspicious and given that they have a history of intentionally feeding, I personally am very skeptical. I encourage you to research and decide for yourselves, however. Please just stay on topic and keep your comments civil. Have a great day y'all.
He tries off meta builds all the time. How about we look at something OTHER than the two games he played bad so we can compare and contrast? He taunts often in front of enemies trying to bait abilities. He goes tank kindred JG and went 7-0 (IN TERMS OF WINS AND LOSSES BTW) on it recently. If he had played bad in those games, is he trolling now? Funny how twisted this logic is. Wow he tries something out and doesn't have success immediately this time. Crazy. lets permanently ban him for it. Wow he made bad decisions that you literally see everywhere in plat games. Lets permanently ban him for it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pcInTYKw,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-12-05T03:06:38.555+0000) > > At first I was pretty skeptical, the games didn't look _too_ bad, but I did some more digging and I'm leaning towards this ban being warranted. Let me explain. > > ________ > > ##First and foremost: You never buy mobis on Kindred. Doesn't seem like that big a deal on the surface, but here is why it's important: > > The only other time you've done this was [**in this game right here**](https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3201824740/246169660?tab=overview), which I assume was the first time you got punished for intentionally feeding. That game was played on 11/10/19, the next game you played was on 11/24/19. A 14 day gap inbetween these games, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first punishment for intentionally feeding is a 14-day suspension. > > I just think that's very important to note. Buying mobis does not automatically mean someone is intentionally feeding, but when you're punished two times in a row and the first one also had them built, it makes me skeptical and maybe you built them for a reason. > > In almost every one of your games you go tabi and it's **VERY** interesting to me that in a game with a fed Katarina, a fed Miss Fortune, a fed Nidalee, and a strong Riven/Nautilus, defensive boots didn't cross your mind. > > ______________ > > ##Secondly: here's the video evidence of the Kindred game _**(I will edit this comment when I finish the Volibear game)**_ if anyone else wants to follow along and see what I saw. > > https://streamable.com/4tlaq > > [_(Here's the direct link if you want to fullscreen it.)_](https://streamable.com/j68wk) > > Now, in order of the shown clips: > > - **Q'ed into entire enemy team** - Yeah, I think this one is pretty bad. You walked up, underleveled, Q'ed into the entire enemy team, and then died instantly. This was towards the end of the game, so you should have been playing much more defensively and/or, at the very least, not jumping directly into the entire team. > > > - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF** - Honestly, at first glance this looked like an honest mistake. Maybe you didn't realize they were strong, but either way it seemed a bit fishy and I began to rethink it for various reasons. More on that below. > > > - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF X2** - This is what made me rethink the above point. The area was warded, your team was not around you, you just walked directly into Nautilus and Miss Fortune again. **(EDIT: And while there's no sound in this video, throughout the majority of this game I can hear your team pinging you to back off.) ** > > - **Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF, danced, then walked back in and died.**- Same as the first point, this one is really bad. You walked up into lane, danced, got caught in a combo, flashed out, then kind of half-walked into the enemy team. Something that _everyone_ should be taking into consideration: OP is Plat+ and [**is a 673k mastery point Kindred main. **](https://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner?summoner=AZUL+1v9&region=NA) These just don't look right to me knowing all of that, even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you weren't intentionally feeding, you clearly weren't trying here. It shows. > > __________ > > #Will edit when I finish reviewing the Volibear game. That was well-made. OP, I didn't watch your entire game but I watched this. I'd like to hear more on the OP's defense to get a complete idea of what he was thinking while doing all of this.
Literally its so insane that they only focus on these two games. Watch his other games. Watch his stream. He bms and plays like this often. Not trolling, but similar to what trick2g does. I guess that counts as trolling to these people if you play bad during the same game.
rujitra (NA)
: I was just about to come comment on this one in particular: >Walked directly into a fed Nautilus + MF, danced, then walked back in and died.- Same as the first point, this one is really bad. You walked up into lane, danced, got caught in a combo, flashed out, then kind of half-walked into the enemy team. While "walking directly into" champions could be for any number of reasons (lag, thought they could fight, underestimated enemy, expected team to help, etc) - the dancing makes **extremely** clear that this was intentionally griefing. @OP and their friends - seriously, the boards aren't dumb. I'm not sure why you thought you could get away with intentionally ruining games.
Before you try to imply that were dumb to trying to say the ban is unjust; spectate his other games. He bms often and attempts to bait out abilities this way. He does this on his stream. YISUS HAD RECENTLY DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH KNOWLEDGE OF A HOOK CHAMPION BEING NEARBY. So when it doesn't work, its trolling? Nice.
: > [{quoted}](name=TtvCénsoredMercy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pcInTYKw,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-12-05T03:26:05.766+0000) > > Understandable. Sorry. Can we please talk about how Naive the other rioters comment was though? Actually crazy ignorant. Neither him nor I are Rioters, we work under Riot. So we're like, almost Rioters. Ish, kinda.
Sorry my mistake. It is honestly ridiculous that this can even be considered inting. How do wintrades go unpunished in diamond consistently such as TFBlades game today with the Rengar, and two bad games by a plat player trying to climb gets a permanent suspension. It is subjectively justified by someone who doesn't even have enough experience about the game to make anyone content. Not only this, he implies you can basically never buy mobis on kindred or its troll. LITERALLY EVERY SMURF IN JUNGLE BUYS MOBIS WHEN SMURFING TO GO AROUND FASTER, IS THAT TROLLING ASWELL? He can have the same reasons, especially if he wants to get his marks. May not be the most optimal but is an option. Since when did everyone have to play the same and perfect?
Hotarµ (NA)
: You can intentionally feed or grief without directly walking it down a lane. There are other ways to do it. Such as jumping directly into the enemy team while a minimum of 4 levels behind. >..Removed by Moderation.. I didn't say that you "can never buy boots on Kindred." Please read the entire paragraph, I clearly pointed out that OP habitually buys tabi and/or mercs, and the only other time they ever bought mobility boots was when they were punished for intentionally feeding.
Should a person fear a ban for playing and making bad plays? Not in the right mind though still trying their best? In a game that looks hopeless to try to make a desperate play?
: I'm removing voting from this thread as vote manipulation has occurred. In addition, multiple users have been suspended from the Boards for being uncivil. I'll allow the thread to stay open for now, but I'm watching it so please be respectful towards one another. If it gets too out of hand still I'll lock it.
Understandable. Sorry. Can we please talk about how Naive the other rioters comment was though? Actually crazy ignorant.

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