Sukishoo (NA)
: Im hoping the new support is a yordle, so soooooon?
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dIvtlGtE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-28T18:27:30.264+0000) > > Im hoping the new support is a yordle, so soooooon? I really hope not. I love supports, but I can't stand Yordles. Its bad enough having Lulu, who's kit I would really enjoy if I could get over the fact she's an obnoxious yordle, but having a 2nd Yordle support would be heart breaking to me. The last support release I enjoyed was Nami, so I have high hopes from a new enchanter support. (I kinda like Pyke, but hard to call him a support really)
: While I personally wish players would would use Brand as a mid lane mage more than a support, I can't say I have a problem with him being support either. Officially categorized supports such as Anivia and Zyra have effective CC and high damage as well, with their trade-off being very squishy.
> [{quoted}](name=Saunter24,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fpcFJVdV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-29T17:01:12.023+0000) > > While I personally wish players would would use Brand as a mid lane mage more than a support, I can't say I have a problem with him being support either. Officially categorized supports such as Anivia and Zyra have effective CC and high damage as well, with their trade-off being very squishy. Thats one thing I don't understand, why some mages are catagorised as supports but others arn't. Like why is Brand a support, yet Twisted Fate isn't? TF has a better stun (lower CD and targeted), mana sustain so he can poke forever, better peels (red for AoE, gold for stun) global vision (vision is a supports best friend) and can teleport to the carry if they get caught out alone. Meanwhile Brand has stun, pokes and thats it for support utility. And thats just one example I could think of many more.
: > [{quoted}](name=TwistedNightmare,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pytdEbPB,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-11-24T11:34:12.028+0000) > > hey! you leave Soraka alone, she's a antasti champion with clear cut strengths that make her valuable on a team but also clear cut weaknesses the enemy can exploit to play against her. She's a solid design. Udyr too has the crippling flaw of being kite fodder, he has 0 range and no dashes/teleports. > > Champions like Yasuo however have such a rediculously overloaded kit that the very core design has no weaknesses, and THAT is the issue. Yall motherfuckers dont get that the reason I chose these 3 specific champs is because the OP plays them. Soraka is not my most hated champ but that doesnt mean I like to play her or play against her. In my **_OPINION_** she is antifun. EVERYTHING FUN IS SUBJECTIVE! Irelia, Akali, Graves also have very clear weaknesses and yet many find them antifun. And that is okay, but saying ''X champ should be removed because its antifun'' is dumb as hell. Nvm how Udyrs pattern is just ''ME RUN TOWARDS U ME, E ME Q AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'' Yasuos weaknesses: *Melee * no early escape *AD *Squishy champ * Bad midgame dmg * Weak without his tornado * Huge CD on windwall (which is his only real defensive option) * Powerspike costs huge amounts of gold These are just some of the reasons Yasuo doesnt see play higher than Plat nowadays. I get that you're new to the game but you're gonna see that not everything you redeem antifun means its overloaded/overpowered. Everything sounds overloaded/overpowered when you just mention a champions strengths. Soraka should sound like the most broken support because she has everything but proper engage but that isnt true now is it?
I'm new to the game? Thats cute. Anyway... "Yasuos weaknesses: Melee no early escape" His 'melee' status is nullified by the fact he has a ranged poke with no mana managment. He has an escape by level 2, with his E (everyone takes Q first but if you really want to argue it he CAN pick E at level 1 and have a level 1 escape) "AD Squishy champ" Yauso is NOT squishy, he has higher armour and hp regen than Garen, he gets a free passive sheild which an insanely high uptime that basically blocks every opening hit (and auto refreshes on ult), his wind wall is just cancer and is literally broken (it bugs so often I've seen it delete things it shouldn't like melee attacks) He can sit on windwall and nullify almost every threatening ability in the game. Also his E is magic damage and his ult gives him 50% armour pen for free, so building armour dosen't actually counter him making the AD thing not a weakness. "Bad midgame dmg Weak without his tornado" Are you insane? his mid game is overwhelming, thats where he shines the most because his first crit item causes him to snowball as he has higher effective stats than anyone else. Secondly his tornado dosen't actually add much to his damage output, it adds CC, so it makes his damage safer, but his damage is NOT low without it. "Huge CD on windwall (which is his only real defensive option) Powerspike costs huge amounts of gold" 18 seconds max level isn't that high considering this ability can hard counter most ults in the game that generally have 60+ sec CD. Also refresing sheild is a defence option, as is using E to get out of any fight that looks bad. And his power spike is hitting level 6, that costs no gold. If your refering to the power spike he gets from his first crit item, thats universal as everyone gets a power spike from their first damage item, Yasuo's item power spike is actual more cost efficiant than anyone elses because he doubbles the crit stat. So basically all of the suposed weaknesses are compleattly invalidated by the tools in his kit. Henche his kit is overloaded, he has way too much in his kit that causes the issue of balance, you can't buff him because he has so much going for him that simple number changes can break him compleatly in terms of balance.
Moody P (NA)
: Sion is a failed rework and is consistently one of the most toxic champions in top lane
if you think old Sion with his targeted stun with a 1 for 1 ap ratio wasn't cancerous then, boy, I've got news for you.
: Do you wanna know what makes League of Legends TRULY Progressive?
Shazzbot69 (EUNE)
: Why does the new soraka skin look like crystal maiden from dota 2?
> [{quoted}](name=Shazzbot69,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=irAZ0pI4,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-24T02:11:12.075+0000) > > Common Riot, you won't copy the in game guide system from dota, but you will copy their skins? Lame. You mean Jaina Proudmoore, Dota has no claim to that copy/paste character design. Also as others have stated, feels more like a nod to disney's Frozen than anything else.
Destaice (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Grimspeake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=51lEAWhf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-24T06:17:00.432+0000) > > Tryndamere is harder to play “Muh right click”
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=51lEAWhf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-24T06:55:46.277+0000) > > “Muh right click” any compitant player will kite all day if all you try to do is right click on them. He has a lot more depth to him that people give him credit for, puerly because in super low levels where people just click on eachother he comes out on top.
: Id have so much fun if they removed cancer champs like Udyr, Soraka, Wukong aswell. Just because a champ is modern doesnt mean the old ones are any less antifun.
> [{quoted}](name=ankoanko19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pytdEbPB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-24T02:15:12.419+0000) > > Id have so much fun if they removed cancer champs like Udyr, Soraka, Wukong aswell. Just because a champ is modern doesnt mean the old ones are any less antifun. hey! you leave Soraka alone, she's a antasti champion with clear cut strengths that make her valuable on a team but also clear cut weaknesses the enemy can exploit to play against her. She's a solid design. Udyr too has the crippling flaw of being kite fodder, he has 0 range and no dashes/teleports. Champions like Yasuo however have such a rediculously overloaded kit that the very core design has no weaknesses, and THAT is the issue.
: Everyone: ''Udyr, Skarner, Xerath and Zilean has gone over 3 years without a skin''
I love Soraka, so I'm super happy to have her get 2 ne skins (and the snow day one looks fantastic), but I can see why its a bit upsetting for other people who don't play her.
: Shield Bash on Sona?
Not seeing a benifit over dark harvest sona
: Neeko is a dumb pander to the LGBT community for money
Neeko is fine, her sexuality is a single factor in a multi faceted. {{champion:110}} on the other hand was horrably done, and a clear publicity stunt. They (quite literally) made a song and dance about his sexuality.
Stupafly (NA)
: Neeko's Sexual Preference is Irrelevant.
> [{quoted}](name=Stupafly,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bAsciroU,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-21T15:13:04.868+0000) > > "Neeko is the first lgbtq champion!" um... {{champion:110}} is 3 gay men in one body. {{champion:28}} Isn't picky on gender. {{champion:104}} +{{champion:4}} are reunited as 'partners' and it was said designed as ex-lovers. And I'm sure there were more I'm forgetting about.
: Comebacks don't FEEL like they're comebacks
Forced combacks shouldn't be a thing. It'd be like watching a boxing match and on round 3 they give the guy who lost the first two rounds some knuckledusters to 'balance' it out. Its a stupid concept, if comebacks happen they should be a natural thing not because the game over compensated the loosing side to force a comeback.
: why even go adc? not a single soul wants to play support they all troll games dead
As a support main I find I often have to fight over the support roll in blind pick modes. So plenty are willing.
: This is not how you play support XD
Zyra has always been a high damage champion, she hurts, she gets kills, its what she does. she's a kill-lane support, like Brand, annie or TF. High burst damage with hard CC. now if you were a Nami going 10/0/5 I'd say something was wrong there.
: What makes Neeko "openly gay" ?
Done better than the disater knowen as Varus.
ExpStealer (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwistedNightmare,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tfyNNEuc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-22T12:36:53.649+0000) > > Neeko is pretty subtle honestly, and I could be wrong but as far as I know she hasn't been confirmed to be a lesbian, so her quotes could be interpreted as idolising rather than romantic interest. She's more inline with {{champion:4}} and {{champion:104}} who seem to be pretty obviously a gay couple, but never outright confirmed. People say a Riot employee confirmed it when asked, but I haven't seen the Tweet myself.
> [{quoted}](name=ExpStealer,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tfyNNEuc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-22T12:39:13.023+0000) > > People say a Riot employee confirmed it when asked, but I haven't seen the Tweet myself. As I recall IronStylus also confirmed that Graves and Twisted Fate were designed as lovers to stoke the fires of their personal vendetta to greater heights, yet they still arn't canonically acepted as a gay couple by most players. Though its still early days for Neeko, we could get more of a reveal on her yet.
: Neeko's an amazing champion..This is unfortunate.
I'm kind of annoyed by her, I feel her kit should have been a Leblanc rework, she has 100% stolen Leblanc's identity as "The Deceiver."
ExpStealer (EUNE)
: I hate that Neeko is shoveling her sexuality down my throat :(
Neeko is pretty subtle honestly, and I could be wrong but as far as I know she hasn't been confirmed to be a lesbian, so her quotes could be interpreted as idolising rather than romantic interest. She's more inline with {{champion:4}} and {{champion:104}} who seem to be pretty obviously a gay couple, but never outright confirmed.
RawwR (NA)
: {{champion:133}} has a spell where she throws valor to gauge their eyes out but {{champion:104}} can't have a cigar
{{champion:4}} can smoke on {{champion:104}} , but {{champion:104}} can't smoke on a cigar.
Kasy (NA)
: Where would he hide his ace?
: Champion insights roundtable: Gangplank
I can see what they were thinking, and I do agree, he did need to be less of a joke and more imposing. But they did it in the wrong way, they changed his look too much, theres no resembalance to old gangplank. Different voice, different face, different hair colour, different body type, different age.. They changed factors that didn't need to be changed and he simply isn't the same man, it feels like an imposter who stole Gangplank's name. Is there a valid reason they couldn't have made him a badass imposing character and kept him with black hair, muscular and a hairy chest? Was it really neccicary to change defining characteristics. He actually looks more like Gragas than he looks like old gangplank. (Gragas's thinner older brother)
: Old Soraka- Could heal EVERYTHING. And not in scary doses like people think. IIRC, the cd on the old heal was like 11 or 12 seconds or something. Starcall was an extremely weak aoe. The big seller that made me want one is that they could give me mana back. Wish was decent, but often used when it was wrong. Having one on your team was good or bad, depending on if they were an afk healer or one that cared about preventing ganks. New- Both Aoe spells have a "slight" delay. All you do is keep moving and you will never get hit. Ever. The heal is more rapid fire, which would arguable make it better. But it kills them. You trade 10% of your hp and mana to heal maybe 5% of your targets. Wish is same. Having one on your team is like a handicap now- you have to protect soraka so so so hard. Its insane. I felt bad for my Vayne. Any time I would go to heal, I got shot. Any time I used my Q or my E, it was dodged because of the delay in impact. All my opinion and data, take as you wish.
Old Starcall was not weak, It was devastating if used right, and the MR shred in team fights synergised VERY nicely with AoE spells from teammates. Since it had a radius around Soraka too, it worked as a very potent zoneing tool, there was the threat of being hit the second you went near Soraka. Old Soraka had a lot in terms of poke, zone, bait and kite. New Soraka has none of that. Well, she can poke but its unreliable. Old infuse was a reliable poke. But back to my point, Old Starcall was a great tool and very under appreciated, the creep wave clearing potential often saved towers, and the MR shred could win fights. Without Starcall, Soraka has lost her zone and kite gameplay.
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