: > [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hun24TyZ,comment-id=0000000100010001,timestamp=2019-12-08T05:36:37.511+0000) > > Not offended, just honest about it. if I had really gotten mad about it, I would have reported it and kept my mouth shut. > > Me pointing that out isn't being offended, it's being a smartass. And there's a difference I didn't think I'd have to explain to anyone. > > besides, I don't get offended this fast. Im not a boomer for at least another 15 years. If you aren't a boomer now, you never will be. Boomers were born in 1946 – 1964. That's just a fact.
> [{quoted}](name=UltimateShield13,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hun24TyZ,comment-id=00000001000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-08T05:45:44.534+0000) > > If you aren't a boomer now, you never will be. Boomers were born in 1946 – 1964. That's just a fact. Boomer has become an attitude more than a generation these days lol
Anu3isII (EUNE)
: Most probably he didn't take into account the other half and complains only about the stat runes. Basically, his suggestion seems to be more along the lines of "rework this part of the system" than "replace the whole system".
> [{quoted}](name=Anu3isII,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EA88eEkd,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T08:37:30.964+0000) > > Most probably he didn't take into account the other half and complains only about the stat runes. Basically, his suggestion seems to be more along the lines of "rework this part of the system" than "replace the whole system". There's already 6 choices from 5 trees and a total of 3 choices with 3 options each for stats How many more are actually needed? If you tried to force all the stats from old runes into those stat shards then you're going to have a ridiculous amount of choices and it'd make setting up a rune page a longer process than necessary when most people are going to take generic stats like AD or AS. Its worth noting all 99% of people took was AD/Magic Pen with AS/AD/AP Quints and then defensive runes. Mages may or may not take CDR on blues. Sure you could have a single crit rune, sure you could make the whole thing one stat, but that's not optimizing for your matchup most of the time and was mostly trolling or for fun gameplay. It technically was more options, but it definitely wasn't more useful and viable options.
: Can the Clash Problem notification stop popping up by itself?
"Unforseen issues" Bruh the thing is called "Crash" as a meme, its literally not worked right once. People have finished Clash matches but 90% of the playerbase has experienced nothing but a dumpsterfire trying to get into this mode lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=Madjack01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lPl7ZT6E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-08T13:23:06.228+0000) > > Wow. > > Knights of the old republic. > > Edit: Just to be clear, that's not to be confused with the mmo "the old republic" Sorry I don't like or know anything about Star Wars outside of pop culture references. It was never my thing. Star Trek was my OG nerd juice series. I know behold, someone who has never seen a single Star Wars movie, read a single comic or book, or touched any game. Let the down voting commence.
> [{quoted}](name=OtakuBurrito,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lPl7ZT6E,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-12-08T13:29:52.135+0000) > > Sorry I don't like or know anything about Star Wars outside of pop culture references. It was never my thing. Star Trek was my OG nerd juice series. > > I know behold, someone who has never seen a single Star Wars movie, read a single comic or book, or touched any game. Let the down voting commence. You're probably better off right now not being invested We're getting good games here and there but recent Star Wars content has been rather dwindling in quality. I'm curious how good/bad the new movie will do because the Last Jedi just did not do great lol.
: GD, can we make a story together? One word per post.
: GD, can we make a story together? One word per post.
: GD, can we make a story together? One word per post.
Audhulma (NA)
: In college but calls self and peers 'kid' You're an adult just about everywhere in the world at this point, act like one. Shit happens. Schools all over the place have testing at different times, so somebody was bound to get the short end of the stick at this time of year.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VRKYN5xp,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-06T19:59:45.794+0000) > > In college but calls self and peers 'kid' > > You're an adult just about everywhere in the world at this point, act like one. Shit happens. Schools all over the place have testing at different times, so somebody was bound to get the short end of the stick at this time of year. Brains aren't finished developing until the age of 25 Mine is past that and I still feel like a child in some ways I'll probably be using the term kid here and there until I'm in late 30s or something lol
UnityOE (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dnhw7MFx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T16:28:30.493+0000) > > Anything that is AoE, even if it only hits one target. > > Bloodthirster doesnt work on abilities, so 33% effectiveness > 0% effectiveness. Wait, the BT doesn't do anything either abilities? Does lifesteal only work on auto attacks, then? So is the DD the only item which has lifesteal for abilities? I'm level 100 just about and I had no clue.
> [{quoted}](name=UnityOE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dnhw7MFx,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-06T19:14:43.485+0000) > > Wait, the BT doesn't do anything either abilities? Does lifesteal only work on auto attacks, then? So is the DD the only item which has lifesteal for abilities? > > I'm level 100 just about and I had no clue. Spellvamp only works on spells. DD has Physical damage Spellvamp on it, which is reduced from AoE moves since it'd otherwise be a crazy amount of healing. Lifesteal only works on auto attacks. Bloodthirster is only Lifesteal. DD offers both Lifesteal and Spellvamp though, so even if you have magical moves in your kit you can justify the item due to the defensive aspect from the bleed burst passive.
: 29 upvotes in 29 minutes... Hm...
> [{quoted}](name=Kairoptra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BptwW6aJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T01:50:47.959+0000) > > 29 upvotes in 29 minutes... > > Hm... Maybe if its 29 upvotes in 29 seconds you'd have a point Also we quite literally used to have this game mode on RGM. It was called "Showdown". Riot refused to ever give it to us ever again comparing its collective hours played to SR to declare it unpopular, even though people were using this for warmup in 1v1s before actually queueing up for SR. And SR is a much longer game mode by default. Even if you played the same number of games on both modes, you'd always have more SR games.
: Did all of the old school forum goers leave? Is Jikker and Rift Herald Djinn the only two left?
iSennª (NA)
: Add the healing back on relic shield items
Only if they add the tiny amount of true damage back on the poke items for Spell thief line Though honestly rather than focusing on how passive effects used to work, I'd rather them just make Support Items actually stop being a tax on your gold. The minion nerf AND the removal of gold gen upon completion makes these items feel awful to use. The power level of supports isn't bad right now but its redistributed in a way that just limits itemization and makes the role as a whole feel worse to play.
Saezio (EUNE)
: > . Yes, ideology and the people you grown up around have a major influence on you. But inherently, the choice is always yours. Not really, if the alternative is death/ Family death. The choice isn't fucking yours. You mean every North Korean person just CHOOSES to support Kim Jong Un? You are talking from a very privileged position of being raised in a 1st world country in the 21st century. What percentage of the planet can say the same do you think? 10% maybe. Let that sink in for a bit.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fVzaEjHP,comment-id=000400020000,timestamp=2019-12-05T14:41:25.643+0000) > > Not really, if the alternative is death/ Family death. The choice isn't fucking yours. You mean every North Korean person just CHOOSES to support Kim Jong Un? > > You are talking from a very privileged position of being raised in a 1st world country in the 21st century. What percentage of the planet can say the same do you think? 10% maybe. Let that sink in for a bit. Yeah, Chinese people are raised in a system where if you want any economic stability you're expected to opt into applications that you can't terminate your account over that have a Social Credit Score that actually encourages you to praise the government and stay away from people who don't use these applications or have controversial opinions since they use that to monitor people. It is dystopian as hell. Does that mean they aren't racist when they're calling other people pigs/dogs/ect? No. It means that their society heavily promoted it. There is a difference in privilege from where you're born but League servers aren't all based in China and if these people are going to hop onto other servers, in some cases needing a VPN, and interact with a culture where racism is explicitly bannable and isn't normalized, they're in for a rude awakening.
Sillae (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fVzaEjHP,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T13:30:18.134+0000) > > Its this weird "Prejudice + Power = Racism" shit that some groups are using to redefine racism so that they can wiggle out of anyone being racist towards white people > > Even though it doesn't even matter if you change the definition, everyone knows what racism means and being a bigoted asshole no matter what word you use is disgusting. Even the false definition doesn't work here. The Chinese player is likely in China, no? Chinese people tend to hold the most power in China, imo.
> [{quoted}](name=Sillae,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fVzaEjHP,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T14:04:19.775+0000) > > Even the false definition doesn't work here. The Chinese player is likely in China, no? Chinese people tend to hold the most power in China, imo. Its OCE which is essentially a mixed bag, you get Australians, New Zealanders, people from the Phillipines, basically a bunch of people who aren't on the Garena or other SEA servers on there. So China is in there periodically but the server definitely isn't Chinese focused. But yeah if it were a direct Chinese server that logic definitely wouldn't work but I've heard a lot of weasle words from these people lol.
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: Why was this worthy of an announcement? Just go play whatever you want to play.
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IN0u2OsR,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T12:37:59.726+0000) > > Why was this worthy of an announcement? > Just go play whatever you want to play. Its an announcement of "This game isn't fun for me right now" which is completely valid when discussing game state
: > [{quoted}](name=Aphelios Thong,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fVzaEjHP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-05T06:10:38.270+0000) > > That isn't racism, but I agree that it's extremely shitty and prejudicial and should be punished. How is that not racism lol. He literally called everyone with a certain skin color a pig. Not too mention there are so many sub-cultures of "white people." Its the equivalent of making fun of all asian people instead of china etc.
> [{quoted}](name=The Malice,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fVzaEjHP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-05T06:26:09.073+0000) > > How is that not racism lol. He literally called everyone with a certain skin color a pig. Not too mention there are so many sub-cultures of "white people." Its the equivalent of making fun of all asian people instead of china etc. Its this weird "Prejudice + Power = Racism" shit that some groups are using to redefine racism so that they can wiggle out of anyone being racist towards white people Even though it doesn't even matter if you change the definition, everyone knows what racism means and being a bigoted asshole no matter what word you use is disgusting.
Hvsao (NA)
: Hey OP, I've ran into this before, but they are very strict about ban removals. You have to prove that you weren't actually banned for proper reasons, and have everything line up. Otherwise they will simply tell you that you should make a new account and best of luck on the fields of justice. I'm speaking from experience. My OG account was banned for 3rd party software, and I have no idea why, and I attempted to get it removed, but they said unless their is definitive information to prove that it wasn't me, its near impossible to get that ban removed.
> [{quoted}](name=Hvsao,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K88Q4vfP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-04T19:11:48.831+0000) > > Hey OP, > > I've ran into this before, but they are very strict about ban removals. You have to prove that you weren't actually banned for proper reasons, and have everything line up. Otherwise they will simply tell you that you should make a new account and best of luck on the fields of justice. > > I'm speaking from experience. My OG account was banned for 3rd party software, and I have no idea why, and I attempted to get it removed, but they said unless their is definitive information to prove that it wasn't me, its near impossible to get that ban removed. Basically Guilty until proven Innocent Honestly I get that they get a lot of annoying requests from people who deserve to be banned, but they literally trust learning algorithms to be 100% accurate. You know, the ones that are designed to fail until they get it right. The ones that are better at solving math problems than human behavior. The ones that recommend Spiderman & Elsa videos with perverted and violent things on Youtube Kids. You know, the ones that totally work the majority of the time. Riot also claims that a human reviews the ban every time but we know how Support operates. They get a crazy amount of tickets and are expected to rush through them in order to get as much done as possible. They're literally skimming tickets, seeing a false ban complaint, and just assuming you're wrong while barely reading it. The only people I've seen actually get their account back had to fight this several times and get a higher up or a Rioter involved on it. Riot Support is good when it comes to things like refunds and compensation for client mistakes, but when it comes to bans they give 0 fucks.
: I too want shieldbomb back, but I have troubles understanding your proposition. What is a tether bomb?
> [{quoted}](name=SilverSquid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GeIFeH5a,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T19:44:06.469+0000) > > I too want shieldbomb back, but I have troubles understanding your proposition. What is a tether bomb? Probably making W explode on both Karma and her opponent in an extra AoE hit Basically shield bomb but much, much more contained and probably easier to balance
: I hate these new support items
There is actually 0 reason for the support items to nerf your income when finished If there's any reason its to guarantee Supports are poor compared to the other classes, if they want supports to actually be mini carries or to actually build items its a terrible change. And given the patch notes it seems intentional.
: I think you mean 2024 because we all know who's gonna win in 2020
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Brad Japan,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l745U0ml,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-04T18:38:56.670+0000) > > I think you mean 2024 because we all know who's gonna win in 2020 Democrats running it down mid
: There are actually a lot less "voting bots" on these forums than you might think.
I mean I guess? It quite literally does the same thing as scripts or bots though, it literally doesn't matter what term is used. Its still a pile of League accounts voting all at once with 1 person as the source, I'm not going to stop calling them bots because 4 characters is shorter than any other way its being framed in this thread and everyone knows what I'm talking about anyway. Its still stupid immature bullshit that comes out of nowhere on these threads lol
Vectros (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=uwillneverclimb,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=RNxiz717,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-03T02:27:49.719+0000) > > This has actually triggered me like you would not believe. I played League from like season 3 (I think) until like season 8, then took a year and a half or something off (i'm guessing at all this) and came back like 2 months ago with a new account. Used to always get banned while climbing gold, sometimes i'd get to plat 5 then get banned. I have at least 8 banned accounts...idk I lost count. I'm doing better since I came back, made it to plat and just had a 10 game chat restriction and have been trying really hard to not say anything even the slightest bit negative. > > I used to get chat restrictions and bans for the dumbest things. Most of the time I would just be like passive aggressive, like "/all watch this i'll prove this game is rigged by doing this thing and I bet you $100 my team does this" and they totally do. They were annoyingly predictable and awful. That was probably the most toxic stuff that I would say, while most of the time I would say stuff like "you have to keep pressure" or "please use your wards. please ward anything it will help so much" etc. My first 2 accounts I was probably much more toxic than this, but all the rest I remember reading chat logs and just laughing. How could this shit get me banned??? wtf? > > If I ever said half the shit you guys were saying, especially thresh/hecarim..if I ever acted like that, instant permaban. Just saying "you're so bad" was game over for me. So this video leads me to believe they had me flagged somehow. Maybe once I got permabanned on 1 account they flagged my IP and were less lenient on my other accounts. Or maybe people don't report as much in Diamond or something idk...but this really irritates me because I had so much money into all those other accounts, and one of them I literally wasn't toxic at all. I just was like basically teaching people common sense shit... so watching these people talk like this ...holy shit i'd be permabanned same-day. While I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, 9/10 times someone says they weren't toxic and I take a deep look at how they act, the are actually toxic without realizing it. It sucks if what you say is true though.
> [{quoted}](name=Vectros,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=RNxiz717,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-12-03T05:42:53.383+0000) > > While I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, 9/10 times someone says they weren't toxic and I take a deep look at how they act, the are actually toxic without realizing it. It sucks if what you say is true though. I mean, it sounds like he's admitting to being toxic but is annoyed that other people aren't getting banned for similar/worse shit
: > [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=N1tIdBOE,comment-id=000700010000,timestamp=2019-12-03T01:13:25.782+0000) > > yea over all, considering lawyer fees, court fees, if they lose the the case they typically have to pay the fees of the plaintiffs lawyers plus whatever a the jury decided was a worthy settlement. a case can go on for years before it comes to a conclusion. It's not gonna cost $10 million LOL
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=N1tIdBOE,comment-id=0007000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T07:03:38.711+0000) > > It's not gonna cost $10 million LOL Depending on the court order if they lost the trial it could be way more than that Its not just initial cost, its what happens after. What's suspicious about this is why if there isn't any proof or real argument that they did anything wrong why they're concerned about going to trial and losing.
: What happened to 2 out of my 6 boards accounts?
IDK, might be a tweak due to all the vote botting? Frankly I don't know why they don't just lock it at 30 or something. We'd still get vote bots and such but at least players can't be people who are so new that they complain about the game while being actually clueless.
: Is there a way to get rid of the "It's pre-season, who cares" mentality?
Because this is LITERALLY RIOT'S ATTITUDE Like Preseason they do a bunch of aggressive changesat the start, do a slow adjustment period before the season officially starts, and by that point they assumed they did enough work for the game to be pretty balanced and they work from there. If the devs don't even care about Preseason being fun to play or remotely balanced because "lul its supposed to be broken, its preseason" then don't expect the players to. And to be fair, it is a testing period, but usually there's never any major changes by the time the season starts. Mostly bugfixes and tweaks. Feedback is often ignored during this period unless its something almost everyone is complaining about.
: "Rioter has feelings too we shouldn't criticize them"
I mean as long as you aren't just hurling flame, I think its valid to complain about the game's issues. I think the reason you see the defense squad so ready is because you'll see shit like people saying "OMG TOO MUCH DAMAGE IN THE GAME, PYKE IS BROKEN, HOW ARE THE MONKEYS ON YOUR TEAM EVEN IN A JOB YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED" where there might be a single vague criticism of aspects of the game but its just a hate piece overall. If you're complaining about how the game feels ruined for you and you have some strong words alongside good points, I think that's totally valid and deserves support. But yeah, I wouldn't beg for the game's death just because I disagree with the direction personally.
Hotarµ (NA)
: For something to be reportable or punishable, there has to be action taken and evidence of it. If someone says "I'm going to feed" and hovers Nunu with Ghost/Cleanse, that's not reportable until they actually start doing it. It's unfortunate (because there are most certainly people who do things like that to make you dodge or genuinely will intentionally feed) but you can't really ban someone for just making an empty threat like that.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=d3A2HAOZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-02T21:42:53.770+0000) > > For something to be reportable or punishable, there has to be action taken and evidence of it. > > If someone says "I'm going to feed" and hovers Nunu with Ghost/Cleanse, that's not reportable until they actually start doing it. It's unfortunate (because there are most certainly people who do things like that to make you dodge or genuinely will intentionally feed) but you can't really ban someone for just making an empty threat like that. People were getting banned a while back just for typing "GG EZ" in chat and that was considered toxic behavior. These days being passive aggressive about builds repeatedly can also build into potential actions against your account for being toxic. How then is someone holding champion select hostage and saying nonsense like "Mid or feed" not actionable? Like I get if its just a silly troll hover and someone jumps the gun on dodging but there's clearly pre-game chat logs in many of these cases that can be used. Thing is, if you don't IMMEDIATELY screenshot it or are on stream you won't have footage to punish them. Having a report button that you can click and fill out quickly with a simple list of pregame offenses would actually log what was said and what actions were done to see if its reportable. There's definitely a grey area since some people aren't intent on doing it at all, but that doesn't mean having a report option in select is a bad idea. If your report is wrong, the person won't be banned anyway.
ICloakI (NA)
: Its always the same thing with you people.
Bruh you have 34 lifetime upvotes, not even a page of posts on this account, and you don't even understand how moderation works around here Even if you're a smurf you clearly rarely use the boards. Yes, you can be critical of these people but I'm getting tired of explaining how these aren't Rioters, or anyone paid by Riot. Its a clique of volunteers, some being better than others at their job. And they're pretty open with discussion, there's an entire board where you can discuss thread removals or you can get into a 1-1 on their discord. There's absolutely problems with board culture but screaming "REEE CENSORSHIP" won't cut it. And I agree that they shouldn't remove threads with hundreds of upvotes over "Low effort post" when the overall discussion is positive and isn't something overly inflammatory, that kind of ruling is vague and bad. But you aren't giving any specific examples and just assuming every time it happens its illegitimate. Like if you want to discuss censorship why don't you actually look at public places like Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube that actually have paid staff who are actively censoring political opinions and constantly breaking the law while getting away with it. There's far more egregious things happening online than a boards mod overreaching in a balance discussion thread by deleting it. If you're convinced talking here is pointless, why don't you go argue about something that change could affect the future of the entire internet instead of your personal spat with the mods?
: > [{quoted}](name=Sillae,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HiBiULMM,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-12-02T16:26:12.248+0000) > > 5 seconds of invulnerable tower? That's.. uh > > > I feel like increased defensive stats are better. Either way, riot doesn't like defense, though, I feel like you guys don't know about old Fortify, huh?
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HiBiULMM,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-12-02T16:28:04.081+0000) > > I feel like you guys don't know about old Fortify, huh? Based on the replies, definitely not It's funny how everyone regards it OP just from concept when in reality, having that kind of ability on Flash's cooldown was pretty trash
afmghost (NA)
: Who came up with the idea to make LED headlights?
LMFAO The only people disagreeing with OP have like 2 upvotes and there's suddenly ~20 downvotes come out of the woodwork and only on the OP Definitely not a vote bot
: just cuz a case was "settled" dont mean there was wrong doing. sometimes its just smarter and cheaper in the long run to settle and get the issue gone then to fight it and drag it out. and just cuz riot settled dont mean they have to admit to any wrong doing. and as far as the amount of $10 Million to a billion dollar company who reportedly makes 1.4(2018) -2.1(2017)billion a year is a joke in all honesty.
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=N1tIdBOE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-03T00:29:22.468+0000) > > just cuz a case was "settled" dont mean there was wrong doing. sometimes its just smarter and cheaper in the long run to settle and get the issue gone then to fight it and drag it out. > > and just cuz riot settled dont mean they have to admit to any wrong doing. and as far as the amount of $10 Million to a billion dollar company who reportedly makes 1.4(2018) -2.1(2017)billion a year is a joke in all honesty. For a billion dollar company with PR concerns there's good reason to not let this kind of thing sit on your record. If they're proven to be innocent the damages can be used against the remaining party to cover unnecessary court costs. When you have the budget and time and you're confident you're going to win, why not go through the court process? Sometimes they get things wrong, but assuming no wrongdoing happened there is no reason to default and settle when you have the resources to make a strong case. Riot Games isn't some individual schmuck on the street who can barely afford a lawyer because they're poor, they could hire multiple good lawyers if they really wanted to. They've effectively chosen to bite 10 million dollars and a lesser extent of court fines while essentially saying "Lol we did underpay workers, sorry" in the system when if they were in the right, there isn't much reason to do that other than the short term expenses which they have the resources to get through. Sure, that's possible, but really unlikely. Big companies usually don't default on cases unless there's enough uncertainty to where they aren't confident. And given how many people in general made claims against Riot, some of it is likely true. Smoke usually comes with fire.
: Mods have done nothing wrong idk whats the fuss.
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yKH1JsNx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-02T11:18:21.282+0000) > > Mods have done nothing wrong idk whats the fuss. They have done some things wrong Its gotten blown out of proprotion recently though. Legit haven't seen any controversial rulings in a good bit, there were some huge Yuumi/Senna threads that got deleted for questionable reasons but past that it seems like minor interactions. Just people massively overreacting to their posts being actioned I guess lol
: Guys I have to tell you a secret.
Yasuo has been hot in any form Lean + Muscular is a good look for a sexy man If only he didn't make League of Legends hell to play when he's in it lol
: How is ChickenWrap even still a MOD/Specialize?
LMFAO went from -20 to +20 in seconds and didn't even bother going after any posts in the thread other than CW's initial reply Yeah that's an organic ~40 users
afmghost (NA)
: Who came up with the idea to make LED headlights?
Some people just want to watch the world burn
: Why did the mods decided to become mods
Someone has to do it. You get a bit of authority. You get to meet a lot of people. If you get involved with anything community relations related as a job you can discuss your experience doing it. You learn a bit about web design. There's a lot of reasons why you might be motivated to try it. Some mods are just people who want to have a bit of a power trip with whatever miniscule bit of power they can get but there's really a variety of reasons and their experiences typically aren't always them getting painted as the bad guy. "Yuu and Mi" for example is someone I've basically never seen flamed, maybe like 10 downvotes on a comment at most and its not even related to moderation lol. Given how small the boards here are relatively I don't think the mods here get too much hate. I think most of the hate goes to the LoL reddit. Though given how there's no consistent enforcement, there's dozens of mods, and there's lots of cases of power tripping I can point to due to them way overusing the "Misleading title" rule on anything they don't like, that's a completely different situation.
BBKong (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFBQtJAv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-02T05:46:55.874+0000) > > Personally even if I heavily disagree with him at times Chickenwrap is probably one of the best mods > > I'd rather someone be clear when they need to make rulings, not use their power excessively, and just be a chill member of the boards. I'd much, much, much rather have that than someone who deletes whole threads if its even a little in a grey area. 90% of the time when I see him say ANYTHING, it's some dumb meme shit. He's just a GDer that occasionally deletes threads that are way off the deep end. That's it.
> [{quoted}](name=BBKong,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFBQtJAv,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-02T05:50:14.549+0000) > > 90% of the time when I see him say ANYTHING, it's some dumb meme shit. He's just a GDer that occasionally deletes threads that are way off the deep end. That's it. Excactly And that's exactly what I want from a GD mod. GD is an environment that's pretty much the "Off-topic" board and can be a bit of anything. Probably the only thing I saw that he commented on that was even a grey area was that jesus meme a week or two ago and he wasn't even the one who moderated it, he just explained the perspective of the rules. He's very hands off and speaks openly. And he's a memelord. That's a perfect GD mod and I wish more mods had an attitude that was similar for the other boards.
: How is ChickenWrap even still a MOD/Specialize?
Personally even if I heavily disagree with him at times Chickenwrap is probably one of the best mods I'd rather someone be clear when they need to make rulings, not use their power excessively, and just be a chill member of the boards. I'd much, much, much rather have that than someone who deletes whole threads if its even a little in a grey area.
Bultz (NA)
: It's time Riot had a hard look at player mods and removed them
Its worth noting they aren't Rioters, they're volunteers. There is a clique of people that talk to each other on the Discord but people are publicly invited to talk to them and there's a link on the sidebar. If you have specific posts or screenshots that might do better for public discussion. Personally I've had 1-1 talks in both public threads and in one of their private rooms. They regularly support using the Discord. On one hand its a quiet space that can promote less hostility, on the other hand it makes it really to hide any feedback they get from others who might agree. Though we also have a "Discuss the Boards" forum so its not like 0 criticism is allowed. There's absolutely problems with the boards environment. I know rules for these kinds of areas are often vague on purpose so they can police when needed in a grey area. Its a smart way to do things so that you can be consistent even if there's harder rulings to make. However rules can be too vague, and atm things like "Low Effort Post" are overused. Several people on the staff agree, especially for the Gameplay board which is a cesspool. However the potential revision I saw isn't far from your exaggeration. If it goes from "Low Effort Post" to something else, they're wanting specifics to the point where you're writing an essay to post on that board. That is just one board though, I'm not sure where you were trying to post to but General Discussion is mostly the wild west unless universal rules are broken. Its hard to say how this environment can be fixed. There's clearly a disconnect between moderators and the players here.
afmghost (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ApdIrgNp,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-12-01T19:46:24.389+0000) > > Honestly it might be more likely that the fact you were in a game with obvious bots triggered the ban > > If you're exposed to them without reporting them, the game could treat you as another bot given its literally a learning algorithm trying to find these bots and they often are premades together. Learning algorithms pretty much exist to fail until they get it right so I think its likely that a rapid decision was made given enough preset flags were set on your account. If you're regularly seeing bots, I think its reasonable that Riot would assume you're a bot if you're often in games with what the system has determined are bots. Well that kinda sucks. And riot claims to be cautious with collateral damage.
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ApdIrgNp,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2019-12-01T20:28:27.179+0000) > > Well that kinda sucks. And riot claims to be cautious with collateral damage. Don't trust learning algorithms. Ever. They're good at things like playing a video game or doing math but when Twitter, Youtube, Tumblr, League, whatever service claims they're going to create a perfect algorithm to police human behavior it will never work right. It doesn't matter how well they're set up, technology isn't there yet and it'll take a loooooong time before it might be. Literally they learn by failing repeatedly. If there's grey areas, like with human behavior, where sometimes something is bannable and sometimes something isn't, the bot will attempt an action that has repeatedly had success which will likely err on the side of banning. The thing is, League's customer support always assumes your bans are legitimate. They "review" it rather quickly in order to get through as many tickets as possible. Sure, they may be accurate saying the majority are correct, but there's a difference between 99.9999% accuracy and 50.0001% accuracy. It could be anywhere in that kind of range and still be accurately "The majority of automatic bans are correct". And they'll force you to fight in order to get your account back by basically begging for a Rioter or annoying support enough for them to properly investigate it rather than skim it and give automatic responses. OP could be another liar but I always err to Riot being full of shit because of their policies. I'd rather throw shade at Riot trusting learning algorithms which have a trash track record across every service that has used them and assume they messed up than assume they're right and let someone be falsely banned and ignored. Riot's policy is just bad on this and they won't admit it unless there's a massive amount of verifiable false bans.
: Bots are reporting humans as bots, and getting humans banned.
Honestly it might be more likely that the fact you were in a game with obvious bots triggered the ban If you're exposed to them without reporting them, the game could treat you as another bot given its literally a learning algorithm trying to find these bots and they often are premades together. Learning algorithms pretty much exist to fail until they get it right so I think its likely that a rapid decision was made given enough preset flags were set on your account. If you're regularly seeing bots, I think its reasonable that Riot would assume you're a bot if you're often in games with what the system has determined are bots.
Kythers (NA)
: I hope shaco becomes unplayable soon
> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=V0Xdk03l,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-01T04:04:06.951+0000) > > I hope shaco becomes unplayable soon The fact we're begging for champions to be unplayable at all is a total disaster honestly Maybe Riot should focus less on kits that are considered boring like Fiddlesticks and Volibear and actually address champions that they're scared to buff due to their design. The game is pretty screwed if the community is actually ok with any champions being unplayable since the bar is just constantly going to move to the champion graveyard expanding. Honestly "Delete Yasuo" was a meme for a while and now I'm seeing people unironically wanting all kinds of concepts actually deleted all over the place. This is what reworks are for. This is what adapting playstyles are for. But I don't know what I expect from the League community, Riot isn't doing much more about toxicity and just assuming the bots are handling it and the game balance isn't improving much later. One problem gets fixed, one or two crop up.
: Account lost
Don't log out of boards. Download another web browser and try contacting Support from an alternate account explaining the issue. Riot rarely looks at these boards. The Reddit will probably ban you using some vague rule because they hate any criticisms of Riot even if its actual bug reports. Your best bet is trying to push for Support's attention and to regularly post here. Even though Riot rarely looks at these boards, you might get lucky and someone can get the right people looking at your issue. But until then you need to go through Support because they'll be able to make sure the right people get your information to resolve the issue. Thing is with Riot Support - expect them to be stubborn or dismissive at first. They're dealing with THOUSANDS of tickets. They want to resolve individual tickets as fast as possible. If they're claiming user error and giving you generic statements that look like a bot made them, open another ticket, reiterate your issue was ignored, and keep pressing. Eventually they can't ignore you. Its troublesome its set up like this but its Riot's system. If they wrong you, you have to fight for your account.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Stripy Bag,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JBvrcfiZ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-28T01:58:40.616+0000) > > Or Chaos won because God King Garen's character is a total dick And straight up glorifying genocide is somehow better? But yeah, people are also most likely to choose the stronger champion, so while it may not be easy to do a fair Vs. event literally anything would be better than the 2 we've gotten so far and I really hope Riot does some fixes for this one.
> [{quoted}](name=carrotbunny,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JBvrcfiZ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-28T03:26:08.967+0000) > > And straight up glorifying genocide is somehow better? But yeah, people are also most likely to choose the stronger champion, so while it may not be easy to do a fair Vs. event literally anything would be better than the 2 we've gotten so far and I really hope Riot does some fixes for this one. In discussions of Order vs Chaos, Chaos is always a crowd favorite. Chaos creates new orders, forces change, and always offers surprises whether good or bad. Order is stagnation, whether good or bad. Most people have experienced good and bad from order, but the disruption of Chaos often gives rise to the best good things in life since they're unexpected. Sure it also has the lowest lows, but I'd take a deep but temporary low to a constant one. Order can often remain in power for a long time meaning bad foundations are protected unjustly. Hell even if we removed morality entirely, defending status quo is just boring conceptually. Most of the intesting, well written characters in any fiction are those who exist to disrupt order. Or if they defend it they often do it in unconventional ways and aren't just cops who follow the written word of the law. I think no matter how you frame this Chaos always has an advantage. And Nightbringer will have a similar advantage partly because of how the Solari and Lunari are presented in the game and how a lot of LoL players like edgy characters. You can make a laundry list of ghosts, zombies, edgy warriors, tragic heroes, ect that exist. Even the religiously devout characters are often portrayed as harsh zealots (Leona, Kayle). The culture Riot promotes heavily leans into edgy stuff.
Saezio (EUNE)
: > **They should let us use the same username when logging in for league of legends and a different username or our email for their global service/other games. ** So, instead of the people that share usernames changing their names, you want EVERYONE to have double credentials. Why? Maybe riot should just give dibs to the first person that loggs in between the 2(or more) accounts that have a shared name and this way I think a lot less people would have to change.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZOoskXAZ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:42:56.000+0000) > > So, instead of the people that share usernames changing their names, you want EVERYONE to have double credentials. Why? > > > Maybe riot should just give dibs to the first person that loggs in between the 2(or more) accounts that have a shared name and this way I think a lot less people would have to change. Bro are you aware of why this is an issue? EVERYONE ALREADY HAS DOUBLE CREDENTIALS.
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: >we use the same name and will likely forget the new one because it isn't ingrained in our brain like the original, Wait, you don't use a password manager?
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Y2KpxUN7,comment-id=0002000100000001,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:21:30.409+0000) > > Wait, you don't use a password manager? Unless you're using an application that encrypts everything that's insecure AF Every web browser has them built in but I try to let it memorize as few as possible. If your PC ever ends up compromised you just give away a bunch of accounts someone could possibly steal. Lets be real, assuming I interact with very few people the most secure way for me to memorize this stuff is physically writing it down, but just from attempting to do that for a few sources it becomes clear that if I care about password security I end up with a ton of different usernames and passwords. With everything I'm expected to memorize in my daily life I'm almost certainly going to forget something. Acting like people can't forget their log-ins when every site every has a "Forgot username/password" prompt is ridiculous. When you're dealing with banks, work, every game site, every social media site, additonal payment sites, whatever personal sites you like, ect you end up building up a lot of these.
rujitra (NA)
: >EDIT: From looking at other posts, it seems to be an issue if you have access to PBE and use the same name. It's technically **any** region - though depending on your name it may be more likely than others. Names that are personal but *fairly* uncommon such as "billyj" (first name and last initial) would be very likely to appear on another server, owned by you or not. Given PBE is a separate server (same as having an NA and an EUW account for example), makes sense why that would be happening. No, they cannot just "fix" the system. Someone has to get a new name. You cannot have one account associated with two accounts - that's simply not possible. So at least one of the conflicting accounts **MUST** get a new name, because once the changeover is made, **only one of the two or more accounts can still exist**. That account will not be yours. Your account will be changed to a name Riot picks (probably some ID number), they probably won't be telling you that without asking (they'll have you go through support to recover and get a new username), and if you try to log in you will get "incorrect password" unless the **extremely** unlikely chance the person on the other server uses the same password. It's impossible to fix this thing that is not an "issue". It is an expected result of a merger between servers.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Y2KpxUN7,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-11-26T23:15:36.323+0000) > > It's technically **any** region - though depending on your name it may be more likely than others. Names that are personal but *fairly* uncommon such as "billyj" (first name and last initial) would be very likely to appear on another server, owned by you or not. > > Given PBE is a separate server (same as having an NA and an EUW account for example), makes sense why that would be happening. > > No, they cannot just "fix" the system. Someone has to get a new name. You cannot have one account associated with two accounts - that's simply not possible. So at least one of the conflicting accounts **MUST** get a new name, because once the changeover is made, **only one of the two or more accounts can still exist**. That account will not be yours. Your account will be changed to a name Riot picks (probably some ID number), they probably won't be telling you that without asking (they'll have you go through support to recover and get a new username), and if you try to log in you will get "incorrect password" unless the **extremely** unlikely chance the person on the other server uses the same password. > > It's impossible to fix this thing that is not an "issue". It is an expected result of a merger between servers. You know that plenty of companies are able to manage multiple accounts with the same log-in name by tying it to email or mobile 2FA style, right? And even if they really wanted to do this merger, they could give priority to either whichever account logged in first, or whichever account was created first, right? They absolutely CAN fix the system. Literally every other game company can go on just fine without you needing to change your log in and yet Riot can't figure this out. I know they want to unify their logins so they can host a bunch of different games but they did this in one of the most hamfisted ways possible.
: His core mechanics seem very basic ADC. I don't get why people have so much trouble understanding it.
> [{quoted}](name=Crimson Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zzEpTy69,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-11-26T03:21:06.374+0000) > > His core mechanics seem very basic ADC. I don't get why people have so much trouble understanding it. Just people complaining for the sake of it I guess He literally only ever has 2 skills and 2 passives at once. He doesn't really have an actual passive since he effectively just adds some more stats to his kit. Then R is just an AoE bomb that has a bonus effect based on your weapon and they're all pretty straight forward (On-hit damage, some healing from the lifesteal gun, more slow from the cannon). You only ever need to know what his current weapons can do in any given situation, understanding all 5 and his rotations would give you a total mastery of the matchup though. People are overreacting and acting like he has access to his whole kit at all at once, this isn't Invoker. He's an ADC with multiple types of autos, he has access to 2 autos + 2 spells at any given time and given he has to burn 50 ammo to change them and he only can burn 10 ammo at a time from a spell, you'll be fighting against the same weapons for a while. Its not like he can easily force a switch of weapon type.
: As someone equally frustrated by having to change his username, let's not blame the engineers: if you're going to have a single log-in for all games across all regions and you previously allowed people on different regions to have the same log-in name (which now needs to be unique) *there is no way to solve this problem that leaves every player with a unique, unchanged name*. No engineer can fix a duplicate data issue while still meeting the goal of universal world-wide logins *and* avoiding anyone having to change their log-in info.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ky2LznbT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T04:49:50.496+0000) > > As someone equally frustrated by having to change his username, let's not blame the engineers: if you're going to have a single log-in for all games across all regions and you previously allowed people on different regions to have the same log-in name (which now needs to be unique) *there is no way to solve this problem that leaves every player with a unique, unchanged name*. No engineer can fix a duplicate data issue while still meeting the goal of universal world-wide logins *and* avoiding anyone having to change their log-in info. Or, you know, they could look at which account is registered at what date and determine who should be the original claimant to keep it simple for those involved in the process. Or, you know, do what other companies have figured out already that you don't have to involve unique usernames to have unique accounts. Blizzard has Battle Tags, Nintendo has ID codes. Having some kind of generated number that's unique to your account lets multiple people share a common name and you only need that number to add them as a friend, it otherwise doesn't display unless you're searching profiles.
: Why am I not allowed to keep my old Username for login anymore
Well now I have a reason not to log into League for a while in hopes they resolve this I made accounts on multiple servers including PBE and I can't be bothered to try and memorize all that crap just to try and secure a login name on the correct account. I have to deal with other companies and my job and I've already got a laundry list of username and passwords, the least a fucking video game can do is be simple with its login process. Hell if you want usernames and passwords to be globally unique, maybe make the servers global, hm? After all I literally never would have these accounts if you didn't have the PBE account unlinked to my main account and the EU accounts unlinked from my NA account and I've need a variety accounts to test your game and to play with EU friends.
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