vrasidaros (EUNE)
: Is it wrong to play Illaoi with grasp instead of clepto?
grasp is insanely good for level 1 W pokes into many melee matchups. It ultimately allows for much better scaling too in terms of oiverall rune setup, but its noticeably weaker pre 6
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Ralanr (NA)
: Yeah, once his items upgrade I do feel a lot more durable.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Elx2Yotc,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-13T19:50:54.723+0000) > > Yeah, once his items upgrade I do feel a lot more durable. Yeah but he still can't tank for shit without getting a gargoyles, but then he does no dmg again. He basically loses out and is just a bad sejuani. Sej can at least just instadump pretty much all her shit and then quickly gargoyles after.
Ralanr (NA)
: I really do miss the shield. But without it, it feels like his abilities per level make more sense (I’m actually having a blast maxing Q first). I actually got the tankiest I’ve ever been on Ornn in an Aram yesterday against a ful AD non ADC team with a soraka. I had 525 armor and the only one who had conquerer was Aatrox. It felt good to be tanky again. All it required was idiots not buying armor pen and no ADCs.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Elx2Yotc,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-12T15:05:51.621+0000) > > I really do miss the shield. But without it, it feels like his abilities per level make more sense (I’m actually having a blast maxing Q first). > > I actually got the tankiest I’ve ever been on Ornn in an Aram yesterday against a ful AD non ADC team with a soraka. I had 525 armor and the only one who had conquerer was Aatrox. > > It felt good to be tanky again. All it required was idiots not buying armor pen and no ADCs. He becomes tanky again as you get near full build with the double upgraded items (preferrably one mr and one armor against mixed teams) but game is over at 2-3 items usually.
Arkon567 (NA)
: Fixing leavers in games, The Hero Program
I don't think anyone would want to take over what can probably be considered a much done game and possibly in a champion/role they dont like or care to play. Easier solution is to become more law and order about AFKs and leaving. Punishments should be harder, and cut off points for temporary and permanent bans need to be in better place.
Nithke (EUW)
: So why is he complete shit ?
> [{quoted}](name=Nithke,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Elx2Yotc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-11T20:26:56.674+0000) > > So why is he complete shit ? He's basically a C tier bruiser. After he lost his shield, he doesn't have any real tank steroids outside of a free conditioning. Back when he did have his shield and he was a premier tank, it was because he had C-B tier bruiser damage with A tier tanking. Now he still has his C-B tier bruiser damage but he has C tier tank.
: Nothing feels worse than loving a champion who isn't on Riot's favorite list
{{champion:83}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:516}} only communities I kinda feel bad for. Yorick especially, champ has, is, and will probably continue for a long time to just be so fucking bad it hurts. TFW nerfed specifically for low elo, making him giga trash and most likely unworkable in Riot's eyes until they can change his kit to be more forgiving for garbage players and more rewarding for high elo.
: Why is Sions pickrate so low?
His pick rate is low because riot fucked everything in his kit just to allow him to keep his buffed W which is what made him a problem in the first place. His E is gutted. His Q is for all purposes gutted. His W passive is too good, but not good enough to make up for all the times riot beat around it just so that it could stay.
Leetri (EUW)
: Vayne is barely ever played top, you'll on average see her once every 100 games. Heimerdinger has been top since basically forever, kinda mute point arguing about him ruining top.
> [{quoted}](name=Leetri,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RwJ29493,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-07-08T23:58:10.240+0000) > > Vayne is barely ever played top, you'll on average see her once every 100 games. Heimerdinger has been top since basically forever, kinda mute point arguing about him ruining top. moot
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: Make Morde Passive Reset When Hit by Hard CC?
It feels like his ult should take up a huge part of his power budget but his basic kit and especially his passive are still decently fucking insane.
Anatera (NA)
: But...but..but..they look cool! And all 12 year olds love that! Listen Riot, here's a free tip and I won't even charge you the ridiculous price of a skin for it. The more of something you put into a game, the less unique and special it becomes. This applies to everything, not just executes. Dashes too (hint, hint). Yeah, I get that coming up with new ideas is hard. That's why you get paid for it. Stop rehashing things.
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=liRNrOvR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-29T17:38:14.424+0000) > > But...but..but..they look cool! And all 12 year olds love that! Darius ought to have been the first and the last, especially since his kit is the most suited for it.
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Moody P (NA)
: Darius has 2 slows and a (much faster) hook to stick and make them proc 5 stacks Mord would never get passive off early against anyone except a tank
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RXEdhmNE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-25T02:58:16.220+0000) > > Darius has 2 slows and a (much faster) hook to stick and make them proc > > 5 stacks Mord would never get passive off early against anyone except a tank "except a tank" That largely applies to darius too. I don't see the issue here.
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: If you're not willing to build vs the problem, don't complain about it.
shit thread. If a champion is made or killed by just one item he's problematic. His ult shouldn't steal any stats at all, create simply an arena, and if the other person dies then he steals stats. QSS should also not free people from ult.
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6aGaANWF,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-24T20:27:50.226+0000) > > *Sigh* > > To anyone reading this comment, this Passive of this item doesn't interact with Auto Attacks (unless they apply a separate damaging effect like Teemo E for example). except it currently does interact with {{champion:42}} basic attacks. if you remove basic attack interaction altogether, you now buffed the shit out of corki. congratulations.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6aGaANWF,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T21:03:32.002+0000) > > except it currently does interact with {{champion:42}} basic attacks. > > if you remove basic attack interaction altogether, you now buffed the shit out of corki. congratulations. No, because you dont even need to build helm against corki.
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: Having a few champions break a rule isn't that unheard of. Granted, Cho has diminishing returns after X many stacks, Thresh doesn't have scaling armor if I recall, and Sion is just kinda Sion. Those 3, are out of how many tanks?
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5EKVEdab,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-06-19T14:18:03.359+0000) > > Having a few champions break a rule isn't that unheard of. Granted, Cho has diminishing returns after X many stacks, Thresh doesn't have scaling armor if I recall, and Sion is just kinda Sion. Those 3, are out of how many tanks? No, chogath stacks have linear scaling. By definition that aint diminishing.
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: How many older players feel like they only play 2-5 champs due to reworks?
: You know new morde is broken when even tahm kench loses to him.
No because darius shits on new kench as well, and chogath can farm fairly well and get big without too many problems against kench. Neither of the two aforementioned champions are broken.
: > [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleeper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJXpKRZw,comment-id=000e0000,timestamp=2019-06-11T11:19:20.915+0000) > > Did they ever say that? Never knew. I thought the standard for all melee fighters was just 175, didn't know it was supposed to be a Jugg-specific thing. the standart wasnt 175. it was only very few melee champions who had that much auto range. it was only xin as far as i remember. with the juggernaut rework, they increased the auto attack range of a lot of juggernauts to 175 to offset being poked and kited in lane. then when they started reworking and releasing new melee champions for some reason they gave almost all of them also 175 auto attack range, and 200 in irelias case. the worst part is, they probably only gave irelia that much range, because it makes it look prettier when she attacks with her floating blades. bunch of idiots. but what can you expect from the people who changed steraks gage offensive component from a base ad to a bonus ad increase and made it core on every fighter and skirmisher in the game, when they initially released it exactly with base ad on purpose so its a lot better on juggers than mobile bonus ad scaling champions. the problem is, theyre designing an item or mechanic with purpose, and 5 month later they forget why they did it that way and give it out to everyone, even when its a shit idea.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJXpKRZw,comment-id=000e00000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T11:50:26.612+0000) > > the standart wasnt 175. it was only very few melee champions who had that much auto range. it was only xin as far as i remember. > > with the juggernaut rework, they increased the auto attack range of a lot of juggernauts to 175 to offset being poked and kited in lane. > > then when they started reworking and releasing new melee champions for some reason they gave almost all of them also 175 auto attack range, and 200 in irelias case. > > the worst part is, they probably only gave irelia that much range, because it makes it look prettier when she attacks with her floating blades. bunch of idiots. > > but what can you expect from the people who changed steraks gage offensive component from a base ad to a bonus ad increase and made it core on every fighter and skirmisher in the game, when they initially released it exactly with base ad on purpose so its a lot better on juggers than mobile bonus ad scaling champions. > > > the problem is, theyre designing an item or mechanic with purpose, and 5 month later they forget why they did it that way and give it out to everyone, even when its a shit idea. I agreed until the steraks part. Cry more child. {{champion:122}} idgaf about those changes, matter of fact, Amen on em.
: So is Qiyana like the first real female AD assassin?
Why does this even matter, why is this in gameplay boards.
CytheGuy (NA)
: Because that's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear /s
The most fun we'll get out of this champion is probably pornographic.
Jøkèr (NA)
: New Champion Teaser!
Annoying voice, annoying theme, ugh. Like Illaoi but 100x more annoying and skinny. I like Illaoi though
: Melee toplaners weigh in: Who's the most tilting ranged champion to face top?
Teemo is actually easy Quinn is fairly easy Kennen is supremely fucking annoying And god forbid if gnar ever becomes meta again that would suck.
: Stop "balancing" ARAM
Veigar deserves his ARAM nerf. But bans would just make everything easier since the most cancerous of the ARAM lot could be taken out, and then you could make anyone else work fairly well afterword.
: So when are tanks that can't 1 shot people going to be relevant again?
Speaking of ornn, his combo shouldnt fucking deal the amou8nt of % max hp damage it does. Let's kill conqueror and also cut back on tank damage across the board. win win (still an overall tank buff since they'll all still have their CC).
: I've played Aatrox vs Darius many times, and the only time that occurs is if the Darius just fucks up his lane phase so much and disrespects Aatrox's Q (key point is dont pull him after Q2 or he'll direct Q3 on you), and doesn't buy bramble. High ELO knows how to counter him, and its very simple for everyone lower than that to understand it too.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zXnagAJM,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T22:56:19.576+0000) > > I've played Aatrox vs Darius many times, and the only time that occurs is if the Darius just fucks up his lane phase so much and disrespects Aatrox's Q (key point is dont pull him after Q2 or he'll direct Q3 on you), and doesn't buy bramble. High ELO knows how to counter him, and its very simple for everyone lower than that to understand it too. "High ELO knows how to counter him" We're both D3 asshat, next.
: ??? He cant sit on a 5 stack Darius' face, the fuck? You realize he presses R, the revive only happens when he KILLS a target, right? That means you can dunk him at 5 stacks level 11 and fuck his day. Just buy bramble and watch the futility of Aatrox trying to kill you.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zXnagAJM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-25T22:50:01.261+0000) > > ??? He cant sit on a 5 stack Darius' face, the fuck? You realize he presses R, the revive only happens when he KILLS a target, right? That means you can dunk him at 5 stacks level 11 and fuck his day. Just buy bramble and watch the futility of Aatrox trying to kill you. Nah he just drain tanks you and never gets executed.
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: Because it kills rune diversity. Like basically every adc would take it, almost every top would take it. It also is too similar to press the attack. There is no reason to bring it back.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b9JYEHTM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-05-17T10:15:26.061+0000) > > Because it kills rune diversity. Like basically every adc would take it, almost every top would take it. It also is too similar to press the attack. There is no reason to bring it back. nope, warlords bloodlust or whatever it was called was pretty popular.
Doge2020 (NA)
: If you want to compare sustain based juggernauts to see who is tankier, use Illaoi, in my opinion she is the queen of sustain for juggernauts. Darius would never be able to out tank her or out sustain her.
> [{quoted}](name=Doge2020,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9apaRxo7,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-30T18:35:08.848+0000) > > If you want to compare sustain based juggernauts to see who is tankier, use Illaoi, in my opinion she is the queen of sustain for juggernauts. Darius would never be able to out tank her or out sustain her. Before latest decimate buff I would agree. but 3 man Q is now 45% heal, which is more than illaoi hitting 8 tentacle slaps...
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Moody P (NA)
: 45% tomorrow pogchamp
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9apaRxo7,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T15:28:03.401+0000) > > 45% tomorrow pogchamp I'm so glad riot is taking this route to buff him instead of yet another damage buff which they did time and time before which never helped darius that much.
Haze97 (EUW)
: Darius cannot tank more than a Garen, ever. Even when the Garen doesn't press W, he still stands far tankier than Darius.
> [{quoted}](name=Haze97,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9apaRxo7,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T15:22:25.153+0000) > > Darius cannot tank more than a Garen, ever. Even when the Garen doesn't press W, he still stands far tankier than Darius. Whatever pal. You're wrong. Darius has the potential to heal 36 (without visage) % missing health every 3 seconds towards late game, he can absolutely outtank garen in a normal scenario, AND HE FREQUENTLY DID OUTTANK GAREN in seasons 5 and 6. Garen has NO in-combat sustain options, and he basically doesn't have a passive in mid-late game teamfights.
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stoyo8 (NA)
: Most darius players can relate to your issues. Damage is really high and darius is the squishiest of the juggernauts so he just dies before he even reaches five stacks most of the time. To help with these issues you can take ghost, and because you are taking ghost, take raptors cloak for sustain and faster walk back to lane. Also ulting someone who is low can be better actually hitting someone five times to get passive off. . . darius has an atrocious A.S, he takes to long to get five stacks the normal way. Hopefully buffs make him feel more tanky
> [{quoted}](name=stoyo8,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9apaRxo7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-30T01:56:17.371+0000) > > Most darius players can relate to your issues. Damage is really high and darius is the squishiest of the juggernauts so he just dies before he even reaches five stacks most of the time. > > To help with these issues you can take ghost, and because you are taking ghost, take raptors cloak for sustain and faster walk back to lane. > Also ulting someone who is low can be better actually hitting someone five times to get passive off. . . darius has an atrocious A.S, he takes to long to get five stacks the normal way. > > Hopefully buffs make him feel more tanky It's not that darius is the squishiest, but its that his sustain is one of the hardest to get off in teamfight scenarios against coordinated teams. compare him to someone like garen who presses W to become a top tier tank for a few seconds basically, or Nasus who also becomes a premier tank by just pressing R. Darius can tank just as much if not even more than them, but the amount of positioning and enemy stupidity it takes to do that is almost impossible. Next patch darius will probably be decent. Getting a 3 man q is a pipe dream, and then of course with how high damage is it usually doesnt even matter if you do get a clutch decimate late game.
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: Yorick was just pick or ban, don't be that greedy.
> [{quoted}](name=Laufplanke,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=t03Q9hFL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-14T01:50:35.167+0000) > > Yorick was just pick or ban, don't be that greedy. Didn't say to give him something massive, nor do I ever play yorick. He certainly needs a buff more than renekton.
: Conqueror shouldn't heal at all.
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FL35VGif,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-13T22:59:29.916+0000) > > Conqueror shouldn't heal at all. This, give it back some of the adaptive force scaling it lost and just throw out the healing which will never be properly balanced along with the plethora of fucking healing items in the game (Especially on the AD side of things).
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Sucction (OCE)
: Armor doesn't do more or less than it did two years ago. It still scales the same way, the items giving it haven't been changed much in terms of stats either. The only true damage related stuff has been 10% on Conqueror and the W buff for Vayne. Zoe's E is pretty minor, and Pyke's ultimate doesn't really count. Fiora is totally out of meta so the other main source of frustration isn't present. There hasn't been any buff to penetration besides the initial LW item, but I legitimately have never seen a single person with it in their inventory for some reason. It's only really bought on assassins anyway, I feel. Armor and its effect just hasn't really changed much at all. Besides Conq and Vayne, it's the same as it always has been.
> [{quoted}](name=Sucction,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BbgMmAjJ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-06T22:33:46.396+0000) > > Armor doesn't do more or less than it did two years ago. > > It still scales the same way, the items giving it haven't been changed much in terms of stats either. > > The only true damage related stuff has been 10% on Conqueror and the W buff for Vayne. Zoe's E is pretty minor, and Pyke's ultimate doesn't really count. > > Fiora is totally out of meta so the other main source of frustration isn't present. > > There hasn't been any buff to penetration besides the initial LW item, but I legitimately have never seen a single person with it in their inventory for some reason. It's only really bought on assassins anyway, I feel. > > Armor and its effect just hasn't really changed much at all. Besides Conq and Vayne, it's the same as it always has been. overall damage has skyrocketed since season 5 easily. Penetration itself is actually up since lethality scales better than flat pen used to. More importantly, the amount of %hp in the game and the amount of flat damage is so goddamn high. Why exactly do you think tanks aren't even meta outside of maybe 1 or 2 (chogath and ornn, and ornn not even for his tankiness, just for his ult and passive and his INSANE fucking damage output for a tank). Armor hasn't changed, but damage, especially physical, has.
: I've seen champ select screens where people in support, top, and jungle refuse to pick tanks because "they picked Vayne" This might be having a slight effect on that Also her W is bullshit
> [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XvhuHXEm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-06T06:07:10.649+0000) > > I've seen champ select screens where people in support, top, and jungle refuse to pick tanks because "they picked Vayne" > > This might be having a slight effect on that > > Also her W is bullshit I mean I do the same thing usually. Why bother playing what I like {{champion:122}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:75}} into that fucking champion. The second she gets rageblade I might as well be sona-tier tank. She has no skillshots so you cant really outplay her damage.
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