: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOIdINAF,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-06-23T19:10:33.016+0000) > > k but did you even play in 2014 You tell me https://image.ibb.co/cR6cS8/C2_B6_A49_E_E7_DA_4024_8173_3_E8_C98_E09226.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rOIdINAF,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-06-23T21:55:04.830+0000) > > You tell me > > https://image.ibb.co/cR6cS8/C2_B6_A49_E_E7_DA_4024_8173_3_E8_C98_E09226.jpg Just makes me surprised someone is making URF complaints on the boards when they clearly haven't played much in the last five months.
: > [{quoted}](name=GarySeagull,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lnqEAtdY,comment-id=001200000000,timestamp=2018-06-23T20:53:45.070+0000) > > Udyr is not shit, he's 1 dimensional. > There is a MASSIVE difference. > > Judging your reply you must be 12, you also don't have a clue what you are talking about. Udyr is so very not one dimensional, he doesn't just run at people and anyone that thinks this is just bad. He isn't mechanically hard but there are much easy champs mechanically. Udyr is very much mental champ that requires knowledge of the macro game, vision, an understanding of where the other JG is gonna be at all times and he has the most variants of build path, rune select and skill orders of any champ
You're simply pointing out the aspects that make him more powerful. "flexibility" of build means his kit is too strong, allowing you not to have any knowledge about it to build. Everything else you listed is simply what EVERY jungler has to do all the time. It's the rule of the role, not the champion. He allows for very little counterplay, and you can very much just run at people without needing to think. Anyone who thinks otherwise just wants to pretend they're good at the game because they like to play an easy character. Easy to play _and_ easy to win with. (as opposed to something like pre-rework Taric, which was easy to play but hard to win with because he was so bad)
: You’re on Udyr. I don’t sympathize. Also funny seeing someone notorious for complaining about movement speed play Udyr.
It's funny seeing someone do something hilariously bad as Udyr and complain as if walking _onto_ an ability with a long cast time were because the enemy is overpowered.
Yenn (NA)
: This is the jungle in a nutshell right now, and it's pretty sad
Except for the fact Udyr is #2 in the jungle and has always been unfairly powerful despite his ease of play. Are you simply pointing out the fact you positioned terrible and walked to the other side of that ward for no reason, and failed to see the warning on her W despite the fact you could've gone bear and walked out of it? You're just complaining about getting outplayed while playing someone overpowered.
: to be fair Riot just needs to have a skin test option or something Kinda like a one time purchasable (For like 5 be), One use skin shard.
> [{quoted}](name=ZenithEevee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NPEAE5vn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-23T19:23:49.487+0000) > > to be fair > Riot just needs to have a skin test option or something > Kinda like a one time purchasable (For like 5 be), One use skin shard. Or just an option like HoTS has.
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: UNPOPULAR OPINION: [BRAVE POST]: ¡WARNING! URF isn’t fun and hasn’t been fun, ever.
: A long, comprehensive list of Yi counterplay.
Considering it's the entire community vs. just you, you aren't some super genius who found a magical way to counter Yi. It's the fact literally every Yi can play around that. Any slightly experienced Yi KNOWS Yi's weaknesses, and he has plenty of tools to get around them with just a little bit of thinking.
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CLG ear (NA)
: which champions do you think have the best smelling armpits?
{{champion:10}} 's armpits are probably bad enough, being in heavy armor under the hot sun. But whatabout her _wingpits?_ But hey, if we're talking opinions, I bet Poppy has the best smelling pits. Swingin' around that big hammer all day, in what looks like heavy cloth and bronze armor. Probably heavy and musky. That, OR, she keeps her pits extremely clean so she doesn't stink when she finally meets the Hero.
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: You can save both by making Runaan the actual Darkin and Varus being (maybe) the name he was called by Runeterrans.
Holy shit, that's the best suggestion ever.
Quepha (NA)
: This would be better than leaving it as Varus simply because it outlines how much this is a completely different character. Honestly, they should come up with a completely new name for the champion occupying Varus's slot because the new character is in no way Varus.
I agree. I actually think it's weird they opted to call him a Darkin despite his old lore fitting better with the new idea of demons they're using for things like Swain and Evelynn.
BLT2121 (NA)
: Varus looks better tbh. whenever i see 2 vowels beside each other in a word (same letter tho) it ruins the aesthetics of the word (is that a thing?) eg. Wheeneeveer? or whenever LooL or LoL? Lmaaoo Lmao? Sorry.... Soorryy? or Sorry?
But you're taking things that are words and putting in a mistake. Obviously it would look worse. But a name is different: Temo or Teemo? Le or Lee? From that perspective, the fact Varus isn't Vaarus when Rhaast is not Rhast and Aatrox is not Atrox doesn't make sense.
: except old aatrox didnt have a 3 auto knockup, a blink, and ult that knocked away targets (new xin: a multi-direction sweep. old xin: an attack-speed steroid button) [INSULT REMOVED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO]
I broke it down on another thread, but I'll tell ya here. He was an amalgamation of Anivia, Xin Zhao, and Yi, with every similarity being a weakened version thereof: Passive: Couldn't fully heal like Anivia, and provided only as much AS as Xin's W after a prolonged fight with his healing turned off. Slight rework only made it so you have to do a prolonged fight for the revival as well. Q: Less reliable version of Xin's E-Q combo, with the fact it was only one ability offset by the easy of dodging it and nearly a third the damage. W: Weaker than Xin's on both healing and damage, but forced you to choose between them whereas his provided both every third hit. E: Anivia's Q with lower damage, range, and no stun. R: Aside from basically one auto attack's worth of damage in an AoE, was only an AS boost weaker than Yi's. Minus the reduction of basic ability cooldowns, immunity to slows and cripples, and possibility of extending the duration. He was never a good on-hit fighter because Xin could provide all his strengths, but better. And in situations where Xin wasn't preferred, every other option was better than Aatrox since the differences between Aatrox and Xin were weaknesses of Aatrox, not strengths. It's purely coincidence that a brand new rune suits the fact they removed the cost from Aatrox's damaging W. Two months sooner, or two months from now, old Aatrox would've been back to the bottom thanks to the lack of the overpowered Conqueror.
: so why is there lifesteal vs minions?
Lemme rephrase: the point is so that you don't get to heal without having to interact with the enemy or enemy unites. What are you even suggesting for a Warmog's replacement? That Warmogs simply be added back to ARAM? Or one that literally can't be used, like a Warmogs with the same health threshold but providing 0 HP? You didn't even make a suggestion. Heck, you were even unclear on what you actually wanted. You just want warmogs back. Well, friend, there's an easy solution for you: buy lifesteal on the champion you're playing whom you would usually buy Warmog's on. There's Death's Dance for casters, and Gunblade for everyone else. Mages are in the same boat of having to sacrifice damage for spellvamp if they want it.
: {{champion:268}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:68}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:72}} Based around was bad wording on my part, important part of their kit is what I meant. No one has a shield as the Crux of their kit like Mundo and healing, that is just poor design. And without their shields these champions would be lacking, some more than others
You only listed champions _with_ shields. Like I said, the shield isn't an essential part of their kits. If you'd like, I can break down one by one why each of those you listed. Although, you mentioned Mundo being a bad design. Likewise, Mordekaiser being based around his shield is also bad design. My point was that most champions with a personal shield wouldn't be crippled from not having it in their kits, they're merely buffed above their peers by having one at all-- since for every single case, the shields are on top of other abilities, not solely shields. But I'll name a few who definitely should have counters to their shield because it adds more than need be, and/or in prevents them from buffing the actual core abilities of the champions because they have that defensive capability. {{champion:92}} Often bursts down her targets without needing the shield, or pokes without worry because she has a shield on a dash. {{champion:6}} Will also often kill his opponent without much damage to the shield. It's just more defense than he needs. {{champion:268}} Had his knockup removed, while they opted to keep the shield that all but requires you to intentionally position incorrectly to use it. {{champion:14}} Rarely ever gets to use the damage aspect of his W on an opponent because it can't be cast if the shield pops. {{champion:13}} While his shield isn't the main issue behind his 'unfair for 99% of players' nerfs, it is a contributing factor. While it's a cool concept to give him a shield when using his abilities in a different order, it prevents them from putting any power into his abilities because it would conflict with the overwhelming (if used in master or challenger) strength of his ultimate. {{champion:78}} Who, as we see, received unfair nerfs to her W's armor and MR steroid despite not actually performing better than average. Giving us an option to cut down on their shielding would both grant more room for playing better against them, and give Riot room to buff them if they're struggling, for those who play them. It's a win-win-win situation, including removing the need for enchanters to be nerfed.
Lakrosin (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X7PM2QaF,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-15T13:53:39.424+0000) > > And he has both a shield and heal along with two forms of hard cc, both AoE. Fiddlesticks is a support. Just saying. Might want to keep your mouth shut if you don't understand there isn't just enchanters and 'support item' supports.
MAGE support is one of the THREE support types. Pyke still falls under NONE of them. You're being stupid here.
: Self shielders( and people with shileds on ultimates) kits are based and balanced around self shields as solo laners (enchanters are balanced based on the fact that they enhance another). In order to work properly as independent champions, their shields are important in how they function. Enchanters shields are an addition to another champion. A champion being shielded doesn't need a shield to work well. The difference between gw and an anti shield item is that shielding doesn't give sustain, it allows you to survive longer. Get is important to have as an item but their are issues with it because some kits are based on healing. Mundo for example, he is balanced around get because it is expected to be bought against him. Making an anti shielding item will require self shielders to be rebalanced similarly in response to shielding items. This whole point was talking about how self shielders have no counter. They do have counters, and their shield isn't the problem Getting back to enchanters, the nerfs on them were bad due to item nerfs. What this patch gives is counter play to spam shields because champs that get these shields don't need the shields to function independently. Neither of the nerfs solves the core issues with enchanters though.
Except for the fact the only champion for whom their shield is the core of their kit is Mordekaiser, so your claim that there are numerous champions who wouldn't function well without their shields is simply false.
FridgeD (EUW)
: Im not biased towards tanks. i will never be. But maybe .... you can remember, that nontank-melees exist? adc and melee carries got lifesteal, long range mage ( what a shitty class ) have tear + manaflow band. what shall i do as Darius for example? forcing an all-in doesnt work every time.
You are, and were. You don't have to love tanks to say something that is clearly biased towards them. Build a lifesteal item or Death's Dance. If forcing an all in doesn't work every, then good. You've realized the purpose of it being all RANDOM. You want Warmogs as Darius, all you should be allowed to do is wish you got Garen instead.
Lakrosin (NA)
: {{champion:497}} is something that was supposed to be a pure AP or AP/HP support. His lines suggest he was basically AP pure bred risk taking diving support. So...
And he has both a shield and heal along with two forms of hard cc, both AoE. He has the ability to purchase support items and/or defense, unlike Pyke. And he has the ability to easily leave the enemies he's just knocked up/charmed via his E, making up for being squishier than regular vanguards. Rakan is actually an example of how they can make a support not just another engage tank or just another immobile enchanter, and do it right. Pyke is an example of their misguided attempts to be unique, while missing the plot of a role entirely. Exactly like Mordekaiser in 2015, which was a massive failure.
: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJoWbg1y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-15T08:15:27.788+0000) > > Already made threads about how he's not Riven. Get your facts from sources who know what they're talking about. he is literally riven 2
Show me how he can animation cancel to burst down instead of doing a prolonged fight, or continuously run with 4 dashes, and you'll have a point. Old Aatrox was nothing more than Xin Zhao, but weaker in every way.
: Shielding and healing are different. Gw items have their issues too
I'd say, wtf is up with thinking it's any better to have no way of countering a champion with their own shield? It's actually worse for them to have no counters than it is to just nerf enchanters, since enchanters' _main_ purpose is to protect allies. Hurting them while letting champions with AD scaling shields or shields with innate lifesteal on top remain without a counter is ridiculous.
: Riot, if you haven't seen this yet
Already made threads about how he's not Riven. Get your facts from sources who know what they're talking about.
: So if you are getting flamed and leave you get chat banned?
>Was trolling support when it's an important role >Didn't expect to get flamed for trolling. >Leaves the game instead of using the mute button You deserve worse than a chat restriction, considering what you did wasn't just chat.
: Why Pyke is struggling
It'd be nice to see some discussion on this.
FridgeD (EUW)
: +1 for you. removing warmogs turned aram even more into "who has more longrange poke". btw nothing is better than looking at a shitty aram account player on xerath wasting 50% of his mana to poke and then being forced to watch you regen all your health back.
You're only pointing out issues of warmogs. You saying it's fun Xerath has to watch you heal is just you being biased towards tanks in aram. For it to be fair, you'd have to be advocating for Xerath to also be able to get all his mana back while you heal. Which would simply be accomplished by allowing people to B in aram.
: We need a replacement for Warmogs in ARAM
Well, no, we don't. The whole point of not being able to heal at base is so you don't get to heal to full. If they just give a replacement to Warmog's, then that defeats the purpose of removing it.
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SkieSin (NA)
: The New Aatrox is a Lazy cop out and here is the simple truth why
This is just spam at this point. I don't know how little you actually have to be paying attention to not notice that _you, yourself_ used a GIF for Riven's Q that shows exactly why they aren't similar.
: Nerfing duration was probably the best nerf to give. Nerfing shielding items was not however.
Which has nothing to do with what I said. They shouldn't have gotten nerfs. What should've happened is the introduction of an item with Irelia's passive or Mutilation.
Bazerka (NA)
: These are just my own thoughts, but do what you can to stop the feed / tilt :). There have been many a time I've personally been hyper tilted, but a friendly word / encouragement has helped me cool down and focus resulting in a win. Just my own experience share.
Okay, so when were the times when you were inting and the same happened? Or, ya know, evidence of your claim in the first place. Considering the nature of this game is that most characters aren't _supposed_ to allow you to get back from being 0/10, whether it was from intentionally feeding or just being tilted.
Hügö (EUW)
: But when a champion has a extremly high ban rate while not being fundamentaly broken maybe his kit is recognized as unhealthy by the majority of the players?
Well you're confusing "broken" for "overpowered". They're not the same. A broken champion is either extremely prone to bugs or breaks the rules of fair play with some aspect of their kit. Hence, their kit is unhealthy to the game. Whereas an overpowered champion is simply one that performs too well even in situations where they shouldn't-- or there actually aren't situations where they're weak. Yasuo would be an example of a broken champion. His doubled crit and wind wall are the main culprits, as no matter what state the game is in, crit isn't designed around a single champion who can double it, and his wind wall will always be one of, if not the most unfairly powerful defensive abilities in the entire game. He is fundamentally broken. Now, there was a time when he was both broken _and_ overpowered, back many years ago. And that's usually got to do mainly with damage and cooldown numbers. An overpowered champion can be tuned down. A broken champion must have abilities reworked.
CiphonW (NA)
: I would like to attempt to refute your point if you’d allow. Firstly, when one is faced with words or symbols that have no meaning, the brain will use any tools at its disposal in order to construct meaning. This process occurs subconsciously and cannot be halted by our conscious minds. Spoonerisms are practically ubiquitous among our society, showing presence from realms such as comedy and education, to psychological studies and even every day speech slip-ups. It’s one of the tools our brains may use to decode (and sometimes accidentally encode) words. I’d argue that the average werson pould have only a dittle lifficulty reading this sentence with the meaning I intended, despite the spee throonerisms embedded in it. Secondly, having knowledge of words when they appear in a recogbizable condition neither means that you are hateful nor that you agree with the messages behind said words. Recognition does not cause agreement. It’s not that the viewer is actively seeking a racist word encoded in the name because their subconscious seeks out hate, but rather by their brain’s natural process for creating meaning when none is present, the word was constructed. Thirdly, you may be right that the name was simply a misspelling of some other meaningless words. However in order for this to be a valid excuse for the name being allowed, you must first make the case that the user’s intention when making the name matters at all. From my understanding, it doesn’t matter if the user intended to make different words, so long as the average person would look at it and recognize hate speech with little difficulty. If you can make a case for the opposite I would be happy to entertain it. I’m also happy to answer any questions if I’m unclear.
You cannot use the context that two words are being used together as your argument, as Riot is equally apt to ignore context in all other cases of "hate" speech. Someone was banned recently for merely mentioning that you can't use certain words, but because they said the words to do it they were punished. So you must look at Figger and Naggot on their own. The context notwithstanding. Just as well, what is there to "agree" with when falsely recognizing words that aren't present? It's unreasonable to claim it's fine to punish someone because the _reader_ mistakenly swapped letters of two different words that aren't swapped. It is because of an inherent _desire_ to see hatred where there is in fact none that such people make such mistakes in reading. It's the same sort of subtle racism that occurs when a rich white lady goes out of her way to tell a black man how "oppressed" he is, with no say from the man himself. The intent may be sympathy, but having sympathy for someone being a certain race is a form of racism. My point was that the rules state _misspellings or alternate spellings_ are against the rules, and neither word present here is either of those. I even gave an extensive list of words that would be misspellings or alternative spellings, to make it abundantly clear. You can't just go ahead and claim something is hateful when hate isn't the intent. Are you to assume any instance of the n-word in rap lyrics is hateful? Obviously not. Now, I can agree that something that others will _mistake_ as hateful is _in bad taste._ But bad taste isn't against the rules, and the fact remains that the speaker is not responsible for mistakes on the listener's part. At most, people in game are to ask him, "is that supposed to say the n and f words?" and accept his response of, "no." The listener has a duty to ask for clarity in circumstances where the speaker was unclear, as communication is two ways. This is exactly what happened when he asked Riot Support if the name was alright in the first place; they recognized that it is not hate speech because it's on the reader to recognize what the words _actually_ say, not what their minds fool them into thinking it says. Unfortunately, with enough false reports someone can be banned. And that is what happened here. Reports don't have to be valid if they pile up. Here, we see that a common lack of knowledge regarding the nature of communication led to someone being unfairly punished for the mistakes of others.
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Modi (NA)
: **Hate for the use** of historically offensive terms that were used to belittle, demean, and otherwise diminish the standing of groups of individuals who did nothing but look different and love differently. If that is my hate, then I wear it proudly.
Well, no, you're just misconstruing it then. Pretending to feel bad for groups you aren't a part of by overextending your feelings to situations where they aren't warranted is a form of hatred towards those people, not the words.
: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9aLrg8FE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-14T12:28:00.706+0000) > > You're just... wrong. Watch some gameplay videos and you'll see he is in fact a juggernaut, not a mobile diver like Riven. The similarities are striking, but it's really cool how they've taken the basic concept and changed them into an entirely different play style. > > Old Aatrox had no place in League, as every other AA on-hit champion did the job better until the broken-on-everyone Conqeuror made Aatrox's lack of health cost on Blood Price actually mean something. Well,. the cost on his W never really amounted to much anyway, if you built {{item:3074}} (which you should always do) The cost is effectively negated because you get extra healing on your extra damage.
The issue with the health cost before was that you'd already be dead several times because of it, or because you didn't deal any damage before even getting to the point where you could buy lifesteal. The only time anyone died to Aatrox was when they didn't recognize his kit. Anyone else could buy Ravenous, and rather than negating a health cost with it, actually get the healing from it.
: Even if he was old and had no place in the league, they left nothing of him. As I said in the post above, I wanted him to be reworked like warwick did. With most of him intact in some way. They are completely removing a champ I like and that is all there is to it.
They left him a form of self healing and his ability to revive. That's all you can really ask for on a rework of a champion that was one of Riot's complete design failures. This isn't a case like Kukulkan and Au Kuang in Smite, where the former iteration was still a solid enough character to warrant keeping. Aatrox, as I aid, didn't fit any niche because there was no situation where he did the job of an AA bruiser better than Jax, Yi, Xin, Udyr, Shyvanna, etc. even when Sated Devourer was out and he should've shined.
: (former)Aatrox main here, posting about the recent changes made to him on pbe(long)(ranty)
You're just... wrong. Watch some gameplay videos and you'll see he is in fact a juggernaut, not a mobile diver like Riven. The similarities are striking, but it's really cool how they've taken the basic concept and changed them into an entirely different play style. Old Aatrox had no place in League, as every other AA on-hit champion did the job better until the broken-on-everyone Conqeuror made Aatrox's lack of health cost on Blood Price actually mean something.
Modi (NA)
: The key here is not that I find it offensive or not. It isn't that the person who reported the name finds it offensive or not. The key is that **Riot** deemed it unacceptable, therefore, against the rules. That's it. >The offense you take from the name FiggerNaggot is entirely because of your own inherent hate All I did was cite the TOU to explain that your statement above was incorrect. The ad hominem attack was entirely unnecessary. But if that's what you want to believe, than whatever I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As I said, anyone who finds it offensive, you, the reporter, and indeed those at Riot who decided on the matter, are blatantly falsifying what it's saying based solely on their own inherent hate.
: Just stop censorship altogether, not that swearing is good but because the censor doesn't do a thing. If I wanted to say "A**hole", I will find some way of bypassing the filter - @$$hole, a'ssh0le, or some variety of it. And just because those aren't filterable doesn't mean the receiver won't understand it, we are intelligent human beings capable of reading behind context. Let them swear all they want, when it gets excessive, put the report in and let the ban system deal with it. But tbh, just some crass behaviour is far better than toxic deathwishers, it's some peoples' way of expressing endearment sometimes (like a guy calling his mate a "lil' c**t). This is the internet, where a filter is more of an inconvenience than an actual help.
If you'd report someone for saying something at all, you shouldn't really be allowed to use the chat filter yourself. It should be disabled entirely.
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: What is Riot's excuse for not nerfing Camille and Irelia?
Well, duh, they just nerfed the sterak's+Trinity combo. They want to see how it'll effect those two before slapping on additional nerfs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ev98E4P2,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2018-06-14T08:35:08.213+0000) > > Well, no, actually. I pointed out the striking similarities between Aatrox and Riven because their abilities are actually quite similar. You'd have a point if his Q weren't a damaging ability and his E weren't a dash. Though yes, the differences of the short-range stun and the shield are unique to Riven. > > What you're missing for a comparison between Blitz and Thresh is... everything. I went through with how every single ability of Aatrox's has a similarity to every ability of Riven's. So let's look at Blitz and Thresh with the same lens I used for Aatrox and Riven: > > Passive: Literally nothing in common. > Q: Both displace the enemy. Though in reality, Thresh's is more about the stun than the pull. > W: Once again, literally nothing in common. > E: Deals damage on auto scaling with AD, and knockup the opponent. This is actually the most similar aspect of their kits, despite the fact Thresh's is AoE and knocks them slightly in whichever direction it's cast. > R: Completely different forms of soft cc (categorizing them both simply as "soft cc" is too broad), and while Thresh's lingers, Blitzcrank's is immediate. I'd say they're even less similar than my stretch for Riven and Aatrox's Ws. Although Riven and Aatrox's Ws effectively serve the same purpose. > > If you would bother to read the string of comments instead of just the first one, you'd see where I outlined that Aatrox takes from Riven in a big way, but plays entirely different. Thank's for not putting this as a reply so it flagged automatically. Lucky for you I was coming in here anyway to give an update on Aatrox for the OP. I did take note of what you said regarding the way the play differently, but I feel you overshadowed that with your comments of how similar they are. Aatrox has just changed from a mainly AA champion to a skill shot one. Thats really the biggest change, and it's a lot more rewarding when playing him. Regarding my previous comment about runes for those interested, Phaserush is actually REALLY strong on him. Combined with nimbus cloak, his ult and celerity he can build BC/Trifice, steraks, then tank and still have over 600 AD while in ult. Also note that phase rush will proc of just 3 things hitting them meaning hitting a Q, AA, Q will easily give you the speed to hit that final and most difficult Q. It also sets you up well for your chasedowns and with ult etc, tower diving is very nice with this. I'd say this build would be a must against anyone ranged or has more mobility then you. BC is a strong option when behind as it is much cheaper then triforce, but be aware you lose a LOT of damage from doing this. Triforce can proc so easily off his kit and his base AD is really quite good. I also tried out iceborn and while it isn't a bad way to go if you went BC, you feel the difference in damage pretty hard losing that 100% extra on sheen. I also, I went and tried out frozen mallet with him along side triforce, steraks and deadmans and it is really good for that late game chase. I didn't get to finish a full build yet so didn't get my spirit vestige but on the whole it was a useful addition. Already I can see that Aatrox will have several builds available to him depending on who he is against, and rune choices as much as items will make a large difference. Final point: Cheapshot. This thing works REALLY well. It's so easy to proc I ended a 22k damage game having done over 2k true damage with it. Worth a look at least.
Well that'd be because I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to someone else.
: Please give Shen another rework...
His main problem is that they claim he's a ninja, but none of his attack animations show any sort of martial skill and his abilities don't follow the theme of a ninja, even if you stretch that theme to include naruto lightning shuriken for Kennen.
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: >xi. Selecting a Summoner name that is falsely indicative of an association with Riot Games, contains personally identifying information, or that is **offensive, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable**... I think this qualifies just in that, but the rule continues, and specifically applies to this situation: > **You may not use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent this restriction on Summoner name choices.** ... It is against the rules, as plain as it can be.
Lemme outline for you why calling it a misspelling or alternative spelling is too much of a stretch: Figger: F is further from N than other first letters of words that end in "igger", namely the words Bigger, Rigger, and Digger. Naggot: Likewise, F is further from N than M, which is a likely mistake when spelling the word Maggot. FiggerNaggot could only reasonable be a misspelling of BiggerMaggot, RiggerMaggot, or DiggerMaggot, assuming the goal was to form full words and the letter was missed by a single key as is a reasonable mistake to make. You can't just claim it's a "misspelling" to completely swap the first letters of two words _you_ are so inherently racist and hateful that you immediately see them when they aren't there. Now, with what you claim to see by swapping the N and F from the summoner's name, there actually are alternative spellings. It could just as easily simply be (with a's where they would be): nigg.f.g, nigg.%%%, or even nggr%%% with no vowels. But the stretch you're taking to claim miss or alternative spelling simply doesn't work unless you yourself are inherently racist and homophobic. It's as asinine as claiming the names BiggerMaggot, DiggerMaggot, RiggerMaggot, NaggerFidget, BiggerGag, and DiggerBag are hateful, despite the fact those letters are more reasonable mistakes to make. The offense you take from the name FiggerNaggot is entirely because of your own inherent hate.
: With that logic. Blitzcrank and thresh, same champion. Hook abilities with high mana cost and cd on Q. Check. Empowered auto attack and CC on E, check. AoE soft CC ultimate. Check. Passive that increases durability situationally, check. Overall kit based around picking enemy champions off at range. Check. The kits may be similar, but I think there's plenty of room for them to be unique that we'll see more of once the release happens.
Well, no, actually. I pointed out the striking similarities between Aatrox and Riven because their abilities are actually quite similar. You'd have a point if his Q weren't a damaging ability and his E weren't a dash. Though yes, the differences of the short-range stun and the shield are unique to Riven. What you're missing for a comparison between Blitz and Thresh is... everything. I went through with how every single ability of Aatrox's has a similarity to every ability of Riven's. So let's look at Blitz and Thresh with the same lens I used for Aatrox and Riven: Passive: Literally nothing in common. Q: Both displace the enemy. Though in reality, Thresh's is more about the stun than the pull. W: Once again, literally nothing in common. E: Deals damage on auto scaling with AD, and knockup the opponent. This is actually the most similar aspect of their kits, despite the fact Thresh's is AoE and knocks them slightly in whichever direction it's cast. R: Completely different forms of soft cc (categorizing them both simply as "soft cc" is too broad), and while Thresh's lingers, Blitzcrank's is immediate. I'd say they're even less similar than my stretch for Riven and Aatrox's Ws. Although Riven and Aatrox's Ws effectively serve the same purpose. If you would bother to read the string of comments instead of just the first one, you'd see where I outlined that Aatrox takes from Riven in a big way, but plays entirely different.
: little too accurate to the point where it hurts.... {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
tfw people pretending they played old Aatrox
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