xelaker (NA)
: I guess bring up how back the balance is bad is about something other than gameplay eh? It's cool man power goes to heads, it's human nature.
> [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=aEl6l904,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-08-24T20:41:25.701+0000) > > I guess bring up how back the balance is bad is about something other than gameplay eh? It's cool man power goes to heads, it's human nature. It's more that no discussion can follow from your post and Gameplay is about discussion. If you just want to vent, that's what rant and GD are for. People are looking for somewhat more substantial in Gameplay.
xelaker (NA)
: Read the post before you remove it mods.
Your content: >Riot can you give your game to someone who cares and go make phone games? >I'd say at least the game isn't pay to win, but the balance is so bad that skill only plays a measurable amount if the difference is huge. I'm getting the same vibes I felt about EA getting the star wars license about the future League of Legends under Riot. The last couple of years have tipped well past profit vs player into profit > player and it's butt. Our response: >As the Gameplay sub-board is for content forward threads that foster discussion pertaining to gameplay topics, such as items, champions, gamemodes, and general gameplay balance, we found that your post did not meet these guidelines. While we did have to remove your original post, we encourage you to re-post your content in a more appropriate sub-board; in this case, we recommend the Rant sub-board. >I'd like to emphasize that this is **not **a warning; however, please take some time to familiarize yourself with the Boards Universal Rules, as well as the guidelines for any sub-board you intend to post in before you do so. You could also have reposted it in GD. As written, however, this content is not appropriate for Gameplay because it exists solely as a complaint, specifically a complaint not about mechanics, tactics or the like.
rujitra (NA)
: Rule Clarification
When we review words to see if they should be added to the list, we look at a couple of things: * **How bad is the word to the people most affected by it?** Examples of this are the slang terms for the Roma and for having been cheated by a Roma. Most people don't know the origins of these terms, but they're no less offensive because of it. We don't allow either despite the common perception they aren't highly racist. * **Does the word have a common, innocuous meaning?** We don't censor "bitch" because it's sometimes used in the context of complaining. We would remove it when we note it being used as an insult. This is true for a number of racial and ethnic insults (a "%%%%%" in the armor, my house is "%%%%" and span, etc.). It's worth noting that "r%%%%%ed" was only added to the filter after a couple of weeks of fairly intense debate. People argued that it can mean "delayed in development or progression", but were challenged to find a use in that context. Truth is, it's very nearly always "that's r%%%%%ed", which is useless as a point of discussion, or "you're r%%%%%ed", which is obviously an attack. * **Is the word commonly understood as offensive?** The NA Boards have to be open to all regions because this is where the Rioters are. In general, we lean towards "is it offensive or insulting _anywhere_?" This is how British slang terms for cigarettes and female genitalia are reviewed, for example. So, let's come back around to "whale". Moderating this the way you suggest presents a couple of problems. * I've never heard of someone objecting to being called a whale in the sense of regularly spending a lot of money on something. This is how casinos regularly refer to their high rollers. If we noticed someone using it in a derogatory way with regard to someone's weight or size, that would be moderated based on the general guidelines. * The word has a perfectly innocuous meaning. It would be really awkward to go to GD and see a thread titled, "I went on a cruise and saw some w%%%%s." * Again, yours is the very first complaint I've ever heard with regard to the term, so I don't really feel it's as much of a problem as you're making it out to be. As always, if you can find an example of a pejorative use on the Boards that would not be subject to traditional moderation, link it to me in the Discord and I'll take a look.
: "riot, look at my match history"
>"Do not post content advocating or soliciting violations of the Terms of Use, Summoner’s Code, or Board Rules. Players encouraging this sort of behavior will be punished as if they had engaged in it themselves." It wasn't Riot that removed the content.
: I got in trouble for what?
>I could have said it like "don't be a pvssy" and that still isn't that bad. "Bad" is a matter of opinion and, frankly, kind of irrelevant. The rules against things like that aren't because we're weak, rather the opposite. We choose to take a principled stand for a community that is welcoming and inclusive. We're building the sort of house we would want to live in.
: Specialist/mod does not belong on the boards
Have all of you forgotten Ulanopo's First Law? _**~~IT'S OKAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE WRONG ON THE INTERNET~~**_ I mean, seriously. You guys have been going back and forth about something that's entirely a matter of opinion.
: Might as well remove stickers then
Knock it off, both of you.
: Might as well remove stickers then
You're right in feeling that stickers can be used and be seen as being dismissive. I feel that way too sometimes and have removed posts I felt crossed a line. They're open to far more interpretation, however, than something someone took the time to type out. One is a person picking from a relatively small palette of emoji. The other is a deliberate statement. You might also have missed the following from your removal: >I'd like to emphasize that this is not a warning; however, please take some time to familiarize yourself with the Boards Universal Rules, as well as the guidelines for any sub-board you intend to post in before you do so. Your response in that thread was not helpful and the action was intended to remind you to use the Boards more respectfully. Your other post in that thread remains up, as it was a meaningful participation in the discussion.
Hotarµ (NA)
: This removal was justified considering you're directly violating two rules, "Disrespecting or Insulting Other Community Members" and "Gameplay & Rank Shaming." You're trying to downplay someone's opinion or input by calling out their inability to ward in addition to trying to discredit what they're saying by claiming they're mad because you unfriended them.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=H7nJe8iE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-17T01:47:37.113+0000) > > This removal was justified considering you're directly violating two rules, "Disrespecting or Insulting Other Community Members" and "Gameplay & Rank Shaming." > > You're trying to downplay someone's opinion or input by calling out their inability to ward in addition to trying to discredit what they're saying by claiming they're mad because you unfriended them. Pretty much this. I will also point out that this was part of the removal: >While we aren't taking any actions against your account at this time, please keep in mind that continued violation of the Boards Universal Rules and sub-board guidelines may result in future punishments. The action amounted to a reminder to use the Boards more respectfully in the future.
Salty Nami (EUNE)
: Old lores of Malphite as ASMR!
Your previous thread was deleted for being in the wrong board.
Nea104 (EUW)
: Mods strike again. The simple expression "White Knight" apparently is not allowed.
>WE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION STOP DEELETING OUR POSTS CAUSE OF A FEW '' INSULTS'' WHEN YOU COULD REMOVE ONLY THE ''SAID INSULTS'' IN IT JUST LIKE YOU REMOVE NAMES IN THEM!!!! I stopped editing posts because of the high percentage of people who complained it was unfair to do so because it amounted to a "public shaming" or it "altered the meaning of the post." Turns out, what people really want is to not get moderated at all. Go figure.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pP3tWBEM,comment-id=00060000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T22:33:21.326+0000) > > I don't think Rujitra was using _argumentum ad populum_, I can clear that up. He did. And either way, there are no shortage of people and examples that show using the word in other ways and those people do not stop existing just because Rujitra alleges that everyone else agrees with him.
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pP3tWBEM,comment-id=000600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T22:51:20.341+0000) > > I can clear that up. He did. And either way, there are no shortage of people and examples that show using the word in other ways and those people do not stop existing just because Rujitra alleges that everyone else agrees with him. They can use it in other places all they want - within the strictures of that place. Here, people shouldn't be using it at all.
: Oh I get that people are telling me that context doesn't matter. The problem is those people are unbelievably stupid and fostering an ACTUAL toxic environment.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pP3tWBEM,comment-id=0006000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T18:24:07.384+0000) > > Oh I get that people are telling me that context doesn't matter. The problem is those people are unbelievably stupid and fostering an ACTUAL toxic environment. I think we can say we disagree with people without calling them stupid.
: Then the vast majority of society is populated by a bunch of monumental idiots. What, did you think an appeal to popularity was actually going to work on me? The majority of any society supporting their own oppression does not make oppressing them right.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pP3tWBEM,comment-id=0006000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T18:50:00.490+0000) > > Then the vast majority of society is populated by a bunch of monumental idiots. What, did you think an appeal to popularity was actually going to work on me? The majority of any society supporting their own oppression does not make oppressing them right. I don't think Rujitra was using _argumentum ad populum_, because how many people feel a thing and how intensely they feel it is very much relevant when it comes to code switching, which is what we're really discussing here. The rules of a place are what the people who occupy that space make of them. I wouldn't go so far as to say people feel the sole meaning of the word is racist, but I would say that most people feel it's too fraught for public usage. Again, that's a code-switching thing.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: He literally accused a higher ranked player's playstyle of being inting.
What you said: >That guy is D2 with his "inting" while you're still stuck in Plat. This is an ad hominem, specifically with regard to rank. The [Universal Boards Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE) specifically state this is not allowed. From the moderation action: >While we aren't taking any actions against your account at this time, please keep in mind that continued violation of the Boards Universal Rules and sub-board guidelines may result in future punishments. You were simply being reminded we expect better from you, which frankly you should understand by now, given the number of actions against your account. >Also don't you usually sign your removals? Why is there no signature below mine? It was Evangele, but that's hardly relevant given the removal was appropriate.
: HELP ME FELLOW SOYBOY BOARDERS. I GOT BANNED NEED HELP ASAP.
As the OP appears to have only been here to troll, the thread has been locked. If you have questions or concerns about this action please visit us in the [Moderation Discord here](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification). ~ Ulanopo
: So, which report do we click?
Either is fine. Neither Wrong Board or Spam merits an escalated response. Hate speech, threats and self-harm can be brought to the Discord for more prompt attention.
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jbMzaecy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-04T17:17:47.278+0000) > > Calling people names is an example of being disrespectful. You weren't given a suspension, but rather a reminder that you are expected to abide by the Universal Rules. > > EDIT: It's also important to remember your prior comment in that chain - the one where you called the community "Typical ignorrant Rito fanboy 14 year olds." - was left up, mostly because you weren't going after a person. Respect is for those who deseve it, not who demand it. Think you can earn my respect by being such a spoiled mod who exploits their powers just like all board mods do? No wonder why no one takes mods seriously here.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jbMzaecy,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-09T14:15:35.632+0000) > > Respect is for those who deseve it, not who demand it. > Think you can earn my respect by being such a spoiled mod who exploits their powers just like all board mods do? No wonder why no one takes mods seriously here. Frankly, I am entirely indifferent to your opinions regarding me. I happen to think you being unwilling to afford people a baseline level of respect and dignity says more about you than my choosing the opposite says about me. At the end of the day, we moderate the Boards with the purpose of nurturing a vibrant, welcoming and civil community. If that's not something that interests you, there's nothing says you have to participate.
: Unfortunately, as you can see from the fact several of the mods in question refuse to provide any evidence to the contrary, the mods are immune to the rules. They can be as universally disrespectful as they want because it's up to _their_ discretion what counts as disrespectful. We have no option but to let them abuse their privileges. Or go to Reddit instead, and be drowned out by the fact so many more people use it than the boards.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=qApXUOWk,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-08T02:25:26.096+0000) > > Unfortunately, as you can see from the fact several of the mods in question refuse to provide any evidence to the contrary, the mods are immune to the rules. They can be as universally disrespectful as they want because it's up to _their_ discretion what counts as disrespectful. > > We have no option but to let them abuse their privileges. Or go to Reddit instead, and be drowned out by the fact so many more people use it than the boards. I've had three of my posts removed. The first time, Keyru asked for a sitdown, as I was in a pretty bad place at the time and said something I shouldn't have. It was made very clear during that discussion that being removed from the program was on the table. Short version: You couldn't be more wrong.
: We arent about to sit here and let moderators break their own rules by the way.
>Yep, and here we see Djinn outright saying Mod's shouldn't be held to a higher standard... when they definitely should. "Higher standard" shouldn't mean "emotionless robot." I came to this party too late to have a say but, if I had, I would have agreed with Djinn. Yeah, it's not the best way to say that sort of thing, but it's also not punishable.
Olyander (NA)
: What are all the different ways Riot punishes players?
There are also ID bans, which are where Riot will automatically perma any account they discover being used by certain people, regardless of whether or not there was any behavior on that account. Tyler1 is an example of someone who was on an ID ban.
Ornn (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bVmgNBMq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-02T10:22:52.703+0000) > > Can we take a moment to realize that the skins team isn't responsible for the state of the game? actuilly everyone is resposible for the state of thegsme there is no balasnce team its all fo riot who make opinions
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bVmgNBMq,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-04T02:53:55.777+0000) > > actuilly everyone is resposible for the state of thegsme there is no balasnce team its all fo riot who make opinions That simply isn't true.
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: Fanboy on forums is considered harassment? Riot here's an actual insult:
> Hey Vlada Cut, > > We've recently removed your post for violating the Golden Rule on the Boards: "Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Harassment and insults will not be tolerated". > > Your removed content: > [EDITED] > > While we aren't taking any actions against your account at this time, please keep in mind that continued violation of the Boards Universal Rules and sub-board guidelines may result in future punishments. Calling people names is an example of being disrespectful. You weren't given a suspension, but rather a reminder that you are expected to abide by the Universal Rules. EDIT: It's also important to remember your prior comment in that chain - the one where you called the community "Typical ignorrant Rito fanboy 14 year olds." - was left up, mostly because you weren't going after a person.
: SMURFING IS CHEATING. BAN ALL SMURFS!!
As the OP has basically admitted to creating this thread to troll, it has been locked. If you have questions or concerns about this action please visit us in the [Moderation Discord here](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification). ~ Ulanopo
: Riot deleted my post to silence me (Revert Runes or We Are Storming Riot Headquarters)
Or it could have, you know, been removed for being a memepost in Gameplay and you were told to bring that sort of thing to GD. Just sayin'.
: Respect is something you earn. Not something you have or you own.
All too often "people need to earn my respect" is code for "I want to reserve the right to treat people badly unless and until they conform to my expectations." That's fine. No one is saying you have to be respectful all the time. All you were told is that you are expected to treat people with respect _here on the Boards_. That's what the community wants and it's our mandate as moderators to foster that environment. If you don't want to be part of that community, that's fine too. There are plenty of other discussion boards and Discord servers that would be a better fit.
: Stop. You want Pollock jokes to be considered "polonophobia", if you're offended just stay off the internet. People like you want to cry about everything and this is why League lost its best players. Next time someone says "I was gyped" you going to say they're Antiziganist?
> [{quoted}](name=Aletheiacracy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Odllztb0,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-29T19:03:55.794+0000) > > Next time someone says "I was gyped" you going to say they're Antiziganist? Next time someone says that, I'll remind them that's a highly racist term, same as I always do.
: Because it's from 2012, which is very old, and means I have been playing the game for a long time. Most people learn things about a thing when they do that thing for a long time. Does anyone on this board possess critical thinking skills or am I alone in the dark?
> [{quoted}](name=Will of Noxus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=P2wJtU5y,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-29T17:21:42.307+0000) > > Because it's from 2012, which is very old, and means I have been playing the game for a long time. Most people learn things about a thing when they do that thing for a long time. They call that an Appeal to Authority. > Does anyone on this board possess critical thinking skills or am I alone in the dark? Try to be more respectful in the future.
: > [{quoted}](name=PBcali,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYPauM7J,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-28T13:11:53.337+0000) > > i agree, but it seems like everybody else on this forum so worried about the .0001% of players at a computer cafe.. I've never even seen a computer cafe in my city. (san diego) seems like a weak excuse. a ban on a HD? that seems like it would solve the "college dorm" issue. Interesting how this forum is so against multi acct bans... I know, right? This was a legit discussion about something totally doable and look how many downvotes it got. lol The boards are full of degenerates.
> [{quoted}](name=FutureTrunksOP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYPauM7J,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-28T13:15:08.545+0000) > > I know, right? This was a legit discussion about something totally doable and look how many downvotes it got. That's an opinion you have. Lots of people disagree with it, hence the downvotes. >lol The boards are full of degenerates. This really isn't helpful and should be avoided in the future.
PBcali (NA)
: you sound ignorant, so the more something pisses you off the more you ignore it? Not sure that makes any sense bud. Many other company have more effective methods to deal with these types of problems. I know for a fact Blizzard enacts IP bans and CD key bans. where once an account has logged in using the blacklisted client (cd key) it is automatically banned. Riot could give each client a unique ID that can not be changed just like a MAC address.
> [{quoted}](name=PBcali,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Rq1h2rEL,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-28T08:55:35.590+0000) > > you sound ignorant, In the future, you should avoid statements like these, as they add nothing to your argument and feel unnecessarily hostile.
: can you get perma banned for saying "kys"
> [{quoted}](name=Artorias1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kxHMfgE8,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-26T05:25:19.924+0000) > > Using my alt acc for this, but can you get banned for saying kys. I just told this guy who purposely ran it down that and he said he would report me. I already got a chat restriction, will I get a 14-day ban or a permanent one? > > I'm not even sorry, he deserved it. > Like he was not okay in the head. Yes.
: Chat Logs? A rant about boards.
>Back to the solution. Maybe one already exists? Let's find a new platform to discuss the game where we can set the precedent. Yes, that would be best. Here's the thing, you've already said the Boards community isn't for you, so finding somewhere else that gives you what you want would be appropriate.
NY64 (NA)
: Personally yes I do believe that infinity edge does take out diversity in other builds. Heck we have Jhins that buy 5 infinity edges because it is so good. What makes it good is that it gives 80 attack damage. In the past it used to give 65 AD. Right now it feels like as soon as ADC’s get the item, they delete people in a few auto attacks and it doesn’t help the lethal tempo allows them to attack so fast and even go beyond the attack speed cap.
Good. Take that. Make it about 75% less ranty and BOOM! Gameplay post.
NY64 (NA)
: Question about my post being deleted.
I don't know why people are downvoting you, as it's a perfectly valid question. When you say, "I have made many posts and have learned that the ones I make that usually get the most views,votes, and comments are those that are short and sweet", you've kind of hit the nail on the head. The biggest problem with Gameplay right now is how difficult it is to find meaningful content. Threads that only exist as a conversation starter are generally a better fit for RANT or GD, as the majority of the feedback we receive is people wanting more substance. With regard to your specific thread, I feel it's a problem because it expects the reader to accept a pair of unsupported assumptions: that ADC's do too much damage and that Infinity Edge is a core component for why they do too much damage. We're not expecting a graduate thesis on this, but you need to structure the conversation in such a way that it can lead in productive directions. As examples, if IE is too strong, when and why is it strong? What do you mean when you say that ADC's do too much damage? Does IE squeeze out other gear choices?
: no she's not she's a teenager and is interested in dating ezreal she only looks childish because of her personality she's at least 14 years old and at max over a millenia that makes her a gilf and not even close to a child but that doesn't matter and you know why? NONE WANTS TO SEXUALIZE HER you don't even understand the level of ignorance you are indulging in zoe is a millenial goddess she deserves a sexy skin sexy just in looking good that doesn't mean anything creepy in your perverted twisted minds even if people imagine her that way since shes fictional the resources are possible to reimagine her to look very adult so problem solved! no need to creep to the worst case scenario's and accuse people of shit
> [{quoted}](name=Unlucky Yordle,realm=OCE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=MAJvf1vJ,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-23T00:45:44.131+0000) > > no she's not she's a teenager and is interested in dating ezreal she only looks childish because of her personality > she's at least 14 years old and at max over a millenia that makes her a gilf and not even close to a child but that doesn't matter The community does not share your analysis. > and you know why? NONE WANTS TO SEXUALIZE HER you don't even understand the level of ignorance you are indulging in zoe is a millenial goddess she deserves a sexy skin sexy just in looking good that doesn't mean anything creepy in your perverted twisted minds You were the one who brought sexuality into this by stating it would be okay with you if the skin was sexually appealing. > even if people imagine her that way since shes fictional the resources are possible to reimagine her to look very adult so problem solved! no need to creep to the worst case scenario's and accuse people of shit That's not how the character is currently presented. You're making an argument about a hypothetical situation.
: I want those comments go back where they were as they have not violated any rules. It was just Periscope abusing his power over me. And if that is not possible I want Periscope to create a pinned post on boards where he says that he is very sorry for deleting comments not because they violated any rule, but only because he didn't like them and that he wont do that ever again on **any** boards member that just happens to have a different opinion than he does. Are we having here a civilized habitat or a censorship where mod can abuse his power over users boundlessly? (Now let's wait for Periscope to delete this comment because he felt bad that I criticized his power abuse and that I used some irony here and there)
> [{quoted}](name=Citizen Kayn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=TeAqEdjt,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-22T04:02:44.873+0000) > > I want those comments go back where they were as they have not violated any rules. That is incorrect. Please reread the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). >Was there some cursing in my comment? No. Was there racial slurs or something like that? Those are not the only criteria we use when determining if an action is required. >Else tell me what rules is this comment violating. . > **Disrespecting or Insulting Other Community Members** > Do not post content intended to insult, belittle, disrespect, or intentionally offend other community members as individuals or as groups. Criticism is an important and useful method of feedback, but must be respectful and constructive in nature. Non-constructive forms of criticism (such as questioning another poster's intelligence or requesting the firing or removal of an individual) are violations of this rule.
SanZero (EUNE)
: the RANT link gave me > Error: 404 > “Looks like you’re lost. Need a map?” > This page is missing or has been moved.
> [{quoted}](name=SanZero,realm=EUNE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=p1EAe971,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-22T01:55:06.322+0000) > > the RANT link gave me Fixed.
SanZero (EUNE)
: Now now... why my thread has been deleted ?
> so what is do you mean by spam exactly? There isn't a hard rule. The Boards are moderated by a team of volunteers. When a post is reported, they review the content and made a determination if it violates the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE) and, if so, what should be done. > let me shape this question it in another way... what does riot think the spam is whither in the game or in a board ? In-game chat restrictions are applied by Riot. On the Boards, we consider the following behaviors to be low-effort: * Duplicate posts, especially where no new content has been added. * Copy/Paste posts. * Linking to unrelated or semi-related posts in another person's thread. * Posts that serve only to complain. These can go to [RANT]. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/rant If you have any further questions, please feel free to head to the Discord.
rujitra (NA)
: I didn't see it - and I understand that and I worded it very poorly - what I meant is that there is no "censorship" and there's no law that prevents the moderators from setting and applying the rules they see fit. I didn't mean you guys can delete on a whim (well, I'm sure you could, but I suspect it would result in that person not being a mod anymore).
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=TeAqEdjt,comment-id=00030001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-22T01:01:39.167+0000) > >there's no law that prevents the moderators from setting and applying the rules they see fit. No law, per se, but we do have oversight, both internally and from Riot. >I didn't mean you guys can delete on a whim (well, I'm sure you could, but I suspect it would result in that person not being a mod anymore). The larger point I'm trying to get to is that discussing moderation actions with respect to the legal definition of censorship is not going to be especially helpful, as it's only collaterally relevant to how we work. A great deal of thought and effort went into crafting the Universal Rules. Similar effort goes into every review, modification or addition to those rules. Additionally, we have a team culture that is centered around letting people speak their mind wherever possible. We've never had anyone "casually" remove something because the way we recruit, screen and train moderators very much focuses on having the _opposite_ instinct. In the old days, we had a small time and the workload was heavy. Now, we have a much larger, more stable group that relies less on individual effort and perspective. It's a good team doing something they enjoy and I'm very proud of them.
rujitra (NA)
: No, it really is the same. You trying to veil your insults by phrasing them differently isn't an excuse to insult people. And the moderators can delete your posts for whatever reason they want, actually. If you have an issue with it, go ask a Herald in the discord server to review it.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=TeAqEdjt,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-07-22T00:51:05.874+0000) > > And the moderators can delete your posts for whatever reason they want, actually. That's not actually the case. We train moderators to remove for reasons consistent with the Universal Guidelines and our vision for the Boards. No removals are done on a whim. >If you have an issue with it, go ask a Herald in the discord server to review it. You might see my post just above yours. :)
: Alright, what rules have my post violated exactly? Free speech? Describing an argument as idiotic is not "violation" of any rules. And if I would say that strawberries are red, would that be a violation of rules? This is a clear abuse of mods powers. He did not agree with me so he deleted the comment.
> [{quoted}](name=Citizen Kayn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=TeAqEdjt,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T18:27:47.795+0000) > > Alright, what rules have my post violated exactly? > Free speech? From the [Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE): >_ THE GOLDEN RULE_ > _Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters._ . > Describing an argument as idiotic is not "violation" of any rules. And if I would say that strawberries are red, would that be a violation of rules? That was not the reason your comment was removed. It was removed for insults and antagonistic language. It's worth noting this was a simple removal - it did not come with a suspension or even a warning. Removals of this sort are intended as a reminder to use the Boards in a respectful manner. Your takeaway should be that we expect better from you in the future. > This is a clear abuse of mods powers. He did not agree with me so he deleted the comment. After a review, my opinion is this was a legitimate and proper removal. You may wish to come to the Discord if you continue to have misunderstandings about the action.
: banned for sexually explicit content?
Zoe as a character presents as a child. Our relatively strict policy serves two purposes here: The community at large is very much not interested in the sexualization of children. They make this clear both in the regularity with which they report content of that sort and in direct requests to us through the Discord. As the moderation team is tasked with trying to make the Boards a welcoming and useful place for the largest number of people, we have an obligation to respond. Also, it's not often that a slippery-slope argument is helpful, but this is one of those cases. Simply put, this is an area where we do not wish to encourage people to push the boundaries in any form. We will not be hosting discussions that boil down to analyzing what is alluring in a child.
: Also satisfying seeing the "Riot will never implement self mutes/accommodate toxic players" assertion be invalidated
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iH0RjMPU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T18:44:04.474+0000) > > Also satisfying seeing the "Riot will never implement self mutes/accommodate toxic players" assertion be invalidated You've always been able to /muteall. You just had to do it every game. This just makes it sticky and _there's nothing stopping you from turning it off._
Eedat (NA)
: Why can EUW, EUNE, and OCE post here on NA but we cant post there?
Mostly because Riot headquarters is in NA. We have the most engagement with Rioters and it's best for everyone to have access to that.
Hotarµ (NA)
: PSA: Riot (potentially) becoming much more strict with 3rd party programs
The larger problem is that almost all of these third-party programs have functions programmed in that do violate the ToS and you can get banned for them even if the software never calls those subroutines. There were many of the early skin changers that contained a zoom hack and lots of people were banned thinking they were safe. Everyone should also keep in mind that no third-party software is allowed to change any aspect of the game experience between hitting the "START" button and the post-game lobby. You don't know what these programs are doing behind the scenes, so you should not use them.
: riot support confirmed you cant be racist towards white people
I'm going to lock this thread before it gets any further out of hand. The best place to discuss this would be the [Moderation Discord here](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification). ~ Ulanopo
: People who support riot are dumb xD I expect many dislikes from you trolls I know you can give me 20
As this thread is intended to antagonize rather than discuss behavior or behavior systems, it has been locked. If you have questions or concerns about this action please visit us in the [Moderation Discord here](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification). ~ Ulanopo
: What happened between Iran and USA?
Thread is being locked for cleanup. It may or may not be unlocked when we're done. If you have questions or concerns about this action please visit us in the [Moderation Discord here](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification). ~ Ulanopo
: > [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=GvyMK7Vj,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-22T00:04:14.973+0000) > > Sometimes, removing someone else's comment means we also need to remove yours that quotes it. So, was the removal message intended to tell me that I did something wrong which I shouldn't do again, or was it just a bit of cleanup and I didn't do anything wrong there?
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=GvyMK7Vj,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2019-06-22T02:37:19.518+0000) > > So, was the removal message intended to tell me that I did something wrong which I shouldn't do again, or was it just a bit of cleanup and I didn't do anything wrong there? It was just cleanup.
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> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=GvyMK7Vj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-21T23:12:18.059+0000) > > "This has been removed because it quotes and responds to content that has been deleted and lacks context without it." > > > Same thing happened to me. I'm very confused. Sometimes, removing someone else's comment means we also need to remove yours that quotes it.
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