: > [{quoted}](name=Kingdom Corn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gU1QRmwJ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-10T02:39:36.264+0000) > > Well maybe if your dumass built armor or mr then you wouldn't die. What are you expecting? Build full ad and crit and still be tanky? Tell that to a 400 Armor Malphite or 4k HP Sion (250-300 Armor) that gets 2-second-bursted by an Assassin that has like 40-50 Lethality from 2-3 items, a Black Cleaver, AND LW. Maybe if Armor Pen wasn't so prevalent on every AD item, then tanks could actually be played. Assassins blowing up squishies (which I assume is what you were talking about) is entirely their job, so I guess it's missing forests for a completely different forest with different trees that they still missed.
> [{quoted}](name=Eevee Girl Alex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gU1QRmwJ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-11-10T04:01:43.215+0000) > > Tell that to a 400 Armor Malphite or 4k HP Sion (250-300 Armor) that gets 2-second-bursted by an Assassin that has like 40-50 Lethality from 2-3 items, a Black Cleaver, AND LW. Maybe if Armor Pen wasn't so prevalent on every AD item, then tanks could actually be played. > > Assassins blowing up squishies (which I assume is what you were talking about) is entirely their job, so I guess it's missing forests for a completely different forest with different trees that they still missed. I want you to show me a video of an assassin killing a 400 armor malphite in 2 seconds.
: > [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w82paml5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-09-17T19:36:15.024+0000) > > he was in a good state for a whole year until the mage update. he was viable up until diamond. > > since im not going to play in tournaments or challenger/master, i dont give a fuck about anything else tbh. but with the boot enchant removal, repeated nerfs of his items including swifties, and league of rylais, he took a large hit and needs some buffs to compensate. Yeah, I think he can use some base stat loving to offset some of the nerfs to juggy items. One good thing that has kept darius viable after all the nerfs to the juggy items is that his base stats are incredible, matched only by illaoi and new yorick.
> [{quoted}](name=Tychusfindlay919,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w82paml5,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-09-17T20:35:02.434+0000) > > Yeah, I think he can use some base stat loving to offset some of the nerfs to juggy items. > > One good thing that has kept darius viable after all the nerfs to the juggy items is that his base stats are incredible, matched only by illaoi and new yorick. Also because when you pick darius you have some form of utility/peel and your passive still does good damage. Even if you lose you won't be total dead weight, just almost dead weight. Also he has sustain in fights. Garen is just running at you with damage. He's annoying, but like olaf your adc will shred him late game.
: vaynespot...?
> [{quoted}](name=awbiyagvfUWRH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Hjs4Fdu,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-09-18T09:25:53.074+0000) > > vaynespot...? Vaynespotting. Every time a Vayne does something really fucking retarded, she gets points depending on how retarded the thing she did was. It was this massive joke that originated on reddit. Shitposts are wild.
resumed (NA)
: yasuo has a difficulty curve more comparable to master yi than any other "hard" champion
He's too strong now because of bruiser items which let him faceroll. The original build, shiv IE into other damage items was much harder to pull off and i doubt you'd be able to win with it consistently simply because melee carries are garbage.
: > [{quoted}](name=Catastrop,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=89u6uzfN,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-04T18:42:46.359+0000) > > Which ranged champions even builds this aside from {{champion:81}} {{champion:150}} though? Like I can't see anyone else even benefiting that greatly from it otherwise. ive watched a video of a teemo main playing against a garen main in diamond. he rushed frozen mallet, and that was basically the end of the game for the garen. whenever he got hit by 1 auto attack from the teemo, he would pracitcally stop moving without a chance to fight back or escape and just die to the auto attacks. this is just 1 possible interaction. the same does work on other ranged champions against slower melee champions. but its a good example of how extreme the range advantage of a champion can synergize with an item compared to melee champions, and why it is a good idea to keep certain items strictly restrcted to melee. there also has been a slight surge of bruiser vaynes lately building triforce and mallet for the same effect. she has a fucxkton of item independent damage in her kit on her ult and her w and really only needs attack speed to carry. bruiser vayne with mallet is sadly a very viable concept. there have been a lot of cases over the year of abusive item synergies between ranged champions and items that were originally designed for melee champions. on the other hand i cant recall a single incident of melee bruisers or tanks abusing adc items to the same point ranged champions have abused their items.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=89u6uzfN,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2016-09-04T18:45:44.828+0000) > > ive watched a video of a teemo main playing against a garen main in diamond. > > he rushed frozen mallet, and that was basically the end of the game for the garen. whenever he got hit by 1 auto attack from the teemo, he would pracitcally stop moving without a chance to fight back or escape. > > this is just 1 possible interaction. the same does work on other ranged champions against slower melee champions. but its a good example of how extreme the range advantage of a champion can synergize with an item compared to melee champions, and why it is a good idea to keep certain items strictly restrcted to melee. > > there also has been a slight surge of bruiser vaynes lately building triforce and mallet for the same effect. she has a fucxkton of item independent damage in her kit on her ult and her w and really only needs attack speed to carry. bruiser vayne with mallet is sadly a very viable concept. > > there have been a lot of cases over the year of abusive item synergies between ranged champions and items that were originally designed for melee champions. > > on the other hand i cant recall a single incident of melee bruisers or tanks abusing adc items to the same point ranged champions have abused their items. Teemo can buy rylais to do pretty much the exact same thing I'm pretty sure.
: so through that grind did you enjoy it at all? did you enjoy the game? playing? was it impossible to do so why trying to focus so hard to improve?
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=00010005000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-04T07:01:32.904+0000) > > so through that grind did you enjoy it at all? did you enjoy the game? playing? was it impossible to do so why trying to focus so hard to improve? I enjoyed playing when I won. When I lost I just felt like my time was being wasted and I just became salty. I kept playing because I wanted to hit diamond and feel better about myself. It's also an escape from school in real life because I don't like having a social circle but also hate being alone. So I just play League, and when the fun was gone I just started spamming games to at least hit diamond to get something out of my time.
: no it happens very often. and to say cuz someone doesnt play rank isnt as good as someone who does isnt necessarily valid either. i never said it cant be competitive but to use that to base how you treat and talk to others is wrong. and that does happen. it happens on these boards over and over if you disagree with someone point of view. just as you are saying my point is invalid because you are low diamond so you must know more then i do. but for the most part alot of people do exactly what i say happens. there are exceptions. and boosting happen before there was dynamic queue. and the competitive ladder and scene you speak of out side of pro play dont mean anything and isnt valid to any extent. and if we werent ever bothered how people talked to others on the game there would never be a need for muting, reports and bans by riot. its toxicity all the same. to try and say dont be bother by someone talking down to you and belittling you cuz its for fun is irreverent. people call themselves boosted garbage as an escape goat of saying hey its ok im not that good but if they are playing rank and being serious in the "competitive ladder " and play bad they can just use hey im a boosted animal making a mockery of rank it self. but you can play competitively and not turn every thing into a pissing contest. but to put ones self worth into a ranking on game that in all reality means nothing in life is misplaced. im not saying your not a good player, and that you dont deserve your rank. and im saying anything to discredit that. and if you arent the person that i speak about in my statement then why are you offended? but know that it happens. you even stated it does. in your response. but to discredit in what i say is wrong because what i say happens on a regular basis. and im glad you arent one of the ones who do that. but in the end its a game, win or loss. you play to enjoy the game. if you didnt enjoy the game then why would you put in all the time and effort you must have to gain your rank? and not taking the game so hardcore and seriously would improve the enjoyment of the game. you can be competitive and not be so hard up over the game. for example... IMAQTPIE on his stream is always laughing joking having fun whether or not he is winning or losing. and he was a pro and played on the highest level of the competitive scene, then you get the infamous tyler 1 who was a complete tool and would troll and talk shit, be toxic ect. those are both ends of the spectrum. what im stating is be more like qtpie and have fun. if you are good then you are good and you can have fun playing and not carrying as much because guess what you are gonna be a level above. and if i was way off base then i dont think so many people would have agreed with me
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=000100050000,timestamp=2016-09-04T06:40:44.882+0000) > > no it happens very often. and to say cuz someone doesnt play rank isnt as good as someone who does isnt necessarily valid either. > > i never said it cant be competitive but to use that to base how you treat and talk to others is wrong. and that does happen. > > it happens on these boards over and over if you disagree with someone point of view. just as you are saying my point is invalid because you are low diamond so you must know more then i do. > > but for the most part alot of people do exactly what i say happens. there are exceptions. and boosting happen before there was dynamic queue. and the competitive ladder and scene you speak of out side of pro play dont mean anything and isnt valid to any extent. > > and if we werent ever bothered how people talked to others on the game there would never be a need for muting, reports and bans by riot. > > its toxicity all the same. to try and say dont be bother by someone talking down to you and belittling you cuz its for fun is irreverent. > > people call themselves boosted garbage as an escape goat of saying hey its ok im not that good but if they are playing rank and being serious in the "competitive ladder " and play bad they can just use hey im a boosted animal making a mockery of rank it self. > > but you can play competitively and not turn every thing into a pissing contest. but to put ones self worth into a ranking on game that in all reality means nothing in life is misplaced. > > im not saying your not a good player, and that you dont deserve your rank. and im saying anything to discredit that. and if you arent the person that i speak about in my statement then why are you offended? but know that it happens. you even stated it does. in your response. > > but to discredit in what i say is wrong because what i say happens on a regular basis. and im glad you arent one of the ones who do that. > > but in the end its a game, win or loss. you play to enjoy the game. if you didnt enjoy the game then why would you put in all the time and effort you must have to gain your rank? and not taking the game so hardcore and seriously would improve the enjoyment of the game. you can be competitive and not be so hard up over the game. for example... IMAQTPIE on his stream is always laughing joking having fun whether or not he is winning or losing. and he was a pro and played on the highest level of the competitive scene, then you get the infamous tyler 1 who was a complete tool and would troll and talk shit, be toxic ect. those are both ends of the spectrum. what im stating is be more like qtpie and have fun. if you are good then you are good and you can have fun playing and not carrying as much because guess what you are gonna be a level above. and if i was way off base then i dont think so many people would have agreed with me I don't have fun with League in all honesty it became a grind fest to improve and get better. The magic was gone and after I hit d5 I went from 15 games a day to maybe 3 while surfing reddit and boards. I'll refresh the reddit page for an hour without feeilng the urge to play the game. I typed my response not because I'm salty at your post, I just felt like I wanted to chime in. While there certainly are people who are mean and treat others like garbage because of their rank it's very rare. People don't want to get boosted because they are getting bullied. In my experience these people get boosted because they want to bully other people but don't have the rank to do it yet. If there is a competitive ladder some people will want a way to rise to the top without putting the effort in. I doubt the key motive behind getting boosted is due to rank trashing.
: Your attitude is 100% indicative of a person that should never queue for ranked. Ranked exists for the singular purpose of competition and a sense of achievement when you succeed in ranking up. I'm not endorsing the douchebaggery that occasionally goes on, but if you think that people shouldn't be proud of their rank then you need to wake up. edit: Sorry for my bluntness, I've just had to respond to the single most arrogant comment I've seen on these forums and I'm still pretty salty about it.
> [{quoted}](name=MonkeyMadness,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=0001000400000000,timestamp=2016-09-04T04:57:41.167+0000) > > Your attitude is 100% indicative of a person that should never queue for ranked. Ranked exists for the singular purpose of competition and a sense of achievement when you succeed in ranking up. I'm not endorsing the douchebaggery that occasionally goes on, but if you think that people shouldn't be proud of their rank then you need to wake up. > > edit: Sorry for my bluntness, I've just had to respond to the single most arrogant comment I've seen on these forums and I'm still pretty salty about it. You're delusional. People can be proud of their ranks, but there is nothing wrong with saying, "I want to be in the top 1% of players and any rank below that is worhtless to me." I had that attitude and I hit diamond 5 for the first time this season, it's how i forced myself to improve. It's like when someone who puts a lot of effort into school saying, "I want to go to a top 10 university, anything below is failing to me." If that's their drive who the hell are you to say "no everyone deserves to be equally happy with their achievements and their associates degree is just as good as your PhD from Caltech." Fuck no I'm flaunting my doctorate and i'll be fucking damned if i studied 20 hours a day and landed at some 250 rank college that no one's ever heard of, and while I'll respect other people's achievements you better be damn sure deep down I know my achievement is better. The ranked ladder exists as an incentive for people to work harder towards their goals so they can get that sexy border to show people "hey, i'm better than the vast majority of people who play this game." You're attitude is much more toxic because you want to apply the special snowflake bullshit to every rank. You improve at the game by working harder and being better than other people. That's how LIFE works. Being better than other people is an accomplishment, and wanting to be better is an incentive to work harder. No one compliments the 2.4 GPA kid who goes on to earn 35k at some hell hole job because it's not impressive. People will compliment the Stanford graduate who gets job offers for 90k+ starting salary from major tech companies right after graduation because it's an astounding achievement that's actually WORTH something. Not saying people who don't achieve that deserve to be treated as subhuman trash, but while people may be cordial they probably won't be respectful towards the first kid, and for good reason.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Indeed. If people stopped caring so hard about what rank was better, the game itself would be better.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-03T15:57:07.827+0000) > > Indeed. If people stopped caring so hard about what rank was better, the game itself would be better. Except it wouldn't. Ranked brings in the hardcore players who grind non stop to improve. If you want to have fun ignore them. But you have no right to tell other people to not be competitive.
: But there's more people boosting now and it's much easier to do.
> [{quoted}](name=Finn Teh Human,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=001b00000000,timestamp=2016-09-04T06:11:09.290+0000) > > But there's more people boosting now and it's much easier to do. There really isn't. The supposed land of the boosted, diamond 5, really is just the same as any other elo to me. Win, lose. The boosting part of dynamic queue never had any statistics. There was just anecdotal evidence backed by outrage mob mentality. I really didn't like dynamic queue but it didn't hinder my process to climb. It wasn't even less enjoyable for me. I just didn't like it because other people didn't like it.
: There was less boosting and it was harder to boost when there was solo q. Solo q allowed YOU as a SOLO player to show how well you are able to perform in a game and how well you are able to even carry at times. Riot doesn't seem to understand that they took ranked 5's and smashed them together with solo q to make the ugly baby called dynamic. Even tho I gained a lot by totally ditching my own premades, I still think having other premades shouldn't be allowed. I've had a few experiences where the premades won't work with the solo players and they won't even help (example the Botlane and Jungle are the 3 premade) so the jungler ignores all the other lanes and the fed botlane still can't carry. And I'm tired of people who say "it's just a game". It's more than a f*cking game. I love how there's so many ways to make comebacks and to win the game, and how your rank is SUPPOSED to reflect on you as a player. It's one thing to be casual about normals, but don't start pulling that casual bs into ranked.
> [{quoted}](name=Finn Teh Human,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=001b,timestamp=2016-09-04T05:17:48.214+0000) > > There was less boosting and it was harder to boost when there was solo q. Solo q allowed YOU as a SOLO player to show how well you are able to perform in a game and how well you are able to even carry at times. Riot doesn't seem to understand that they took ranked 5's and smashed them together with solo q to make the ugly baby called dynamic. Even tho I gained a lot by totally ditching my own premades, I still think having other premades shouldn't be allowed. I've had a few experiences where the premades won't work with the solo players and they won't even help (example the Botlane and Jungle are the 3 premade) so the jungler ignores all the other lanes and the fed botlane still can't carry. And I'm tired of people who say "it's just a game". It's more than a f*cking game. I love how there's so many ways to make comebacks and to win the game, and how your rank is SUPPOSED to reflect on you as a player. It's one thing to be casual about normals, but don't start pulling that casual bs into ranked. There was never soloqueue a lot of people duo boosted.
: boosting will stop when people get out of the mindset that if you dont have a high rank you arent worth shit on the game. people put too much stocking into rank. people focus and get good or get lucky and achieve a rank then they go and play a game vs lower level players pubstomp them and then flame them that those players are bad they should uninstall ect. it happens. so what does that lower level player see and wanna do ? well if i get to so and so rank then i can be like that rank elitist assclown and i can talk down to and belittle others too. then i feel good about me and my ego. its just like bullying and anything else. people in general need to stop taking the game so damn seriously , its a game. play have fun, your gonna win , your gonna lose. but dont let the process of playing a game turn everything into a pissing contest
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z1T6pZV3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-03T15:22:57.840+0000) > > boosting will stop when people get out of the mindset that if you dont have a high rank you arent worth shit on the game. people put too much stocking into rank. people focus and get good or get lucky and achieve a rank then they go and play a game vs lower level players pubstomp them and then flame them that those players are bad they should uninstall ect. it happens. so what does that lower level player see and wanna do ? well if i get to so and so rank then i can be like that rank elitist assclown and i can talk down to and belittle others too. then i feel good about me and my ego. its just like bullying and anything else. > people in general need to stop taking the game so damn seriously , its a game. play have fun, your gonna win , your gonna lose. but dont let the process of playing a game turn everything into a pissing contest 1. Most people aren't rude about their rank. I meet VERY few players who enjoy pulling rank to be an asshole to other people. I play in low diamond on my main and pretty much everyone I meet calls themselves boosted garbage. 2. If you're lower rank than someone else you're worse than them. This is a competitive game with a competitive scene, and there is a competitive ladder. It is not meant to be your funhouse, and you have zero right to tell other people they can't treat the game like a competition. And telling someone that they're not as good at the game because they're lower elo isn't "bullying". If you play the game for fun you shouldn't even be bothered by people who say that. 3. Most people who get boosted are the ones who like to talk shit to other people to inflate their egos. They are the ones that want to be elitists and belittle lower ranks. The people who are actually good at the game don't need to tell lower rank people they're worse than them, everyone knows they are.
: > [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jvJAUvmZ,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-01T05:18:59.881+0000) > > That's a very good comparison to make, and pretty accurate. The characters feel more like MOBA characters than FPS classes, but the gameplay is FPS all the way through. > > Another game to look at is Mech Warrior Online. Free to play Mech FPS where the gameplay is slower (read: you don't die instantly unless you're *very* out of position) and you can customize your load out. Built in voice chat, but everyone is pretty good at keeping things low key and not going off the wall when things head south. That sounds pretty solid. Now my only question is; Does it have a ranked system that tracks stats?
No ranked system yet, mostly because it's a brand new game. Blizzard said they plan to release it in a month.
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jvJAUvmZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-06-01T04:54:48.441+0000) > > and the ever so new and prospective Overwatch. I might look into that, I keep seeing it come up literally everywhere this is being discussed.
Yeah the hype is real. Mostly because it's new, but also because it really is indeed a fun game for a lot of people. It's my first FPS and while it took me a while to get used to the controls I'm really having a blast. Not the dream game and Blizzard has some shitty memes attached to it but I would definitely recommend if you want a fresh and polished game. You don't have to worry about afks too, and since games are short and there is no snowballing mechanic feeders aren't that much of a problem too. Overall a lot smoother feeling than League.
: "We will add Solo Queue after Dynamic Queue" (few months later) - "We will never add Solo Queue"
This is probably the first time I'm ever going to agree with Dominick Destine. I've clocked in around 5k hours on League, not counting watching streams, researching, League boards and reddit reading, just sitting in client for queue times, and chatting with friends I've made over the two years I've been playing. I was literally thinking and dreaming about League every day for two years. But in the past month, I found that I was forcing myself to play League, not for enjoyment but as a gateway drug from the real world. Clicking the Play button became more difficult than actually winning a match. Riot's inability to do just about anything right ranging from balance to soloqueue to any other features that they claim they can't make has just turned me away from the game faster than they got me addicted to it. Here's to Riot for finally curing my addiction of League and letting me focus on dead week and finals, and the ever so new and prospective Overwatch.
Ralanr (NA)
: I don't know why people want an assassin meta.
Nobody wants an assassin meta. It's just that right now everything that can build tank feels like they can burst you just as fast as an assassin, so why not have assassins. After all, at least you can still kill them if you CC them, unlike tanks who just walk away after shrugging off four ults.
: The Most Hated Champion Class:
Most hated class on this board, yes. But if you go to reddit, there's not that many "zed OP thread" making it the front page and having a bunch of silver orianna mains shitposting garbage memes about how a 49% winrate champ that isn't picked often in pro play is somehow hitler and kim jong un combined.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: The basic formula for the boards ATM
More like "nerf zed pls", "mage itemisation sucks", and "how am i supposed to beat zed in lane when I walk into melee range and afk? that's not fair". Never mind the fact that the top winrates in plat+ for mid are all mages except for 2, mage itemisation has been broken beyond belief up until this season where they both have good benefits, and it's almost always a mage being picked in mid lane in competitive play.
La Bello (NA)
: I consider Diana more of a fighter. Katarina is absolutely awful. Even when her kit was first introduced people were unsure about it and not really excited for it.Shes pretty hilariously binary and toxic.Q>E>W all day no real options to handle close range threats.resourcless champion who throws 1000000X daggers at you inlane to bypass her melee shortcoming Zed doesnt need a rework. Maybe some QoL like faster shurikens but not really. He comes and goes depending on the state of AD itemization and counter Items. Akali definatly needs a rework. She outputs so much damage theres absolutely no hope of fighting of her and she has no problem sticking to people.shes completely useless in a teamfight thansk to all the vision trinkets and cheap pink wards. W should offer something different.Not only that but her sustain is absolutely RIDICULOUS. By the way how come you didnt mention {{champion:28}}- an assassin that builds full tank and iniates for her team. yeah real assassin like >.>. Also her scalings are everywhere do I go AD because of Ravage or do I go AP because of scalings?(thats a trick question it doesnt matter what you build because youll still be able to instagib that marksmen) {{champion:91}} -Rengar tier levels of unfun. no real counterplay to being oneshotted in a split second sometimes even zhonyas isnt fast enough.The only thing gating him is his GODAWFUL laning phase. {{champion:121}} -so hard to balance and turbulent. completely depedant of resets to do anything in a teamfight.is either useless or too strong. {{champion:107}} - do I even need to say anything?stop beating around the bush and rework this bad kitty {{champion:245}} - another "assassin" who operates more like a soft iniator/fighter. {{champion:11}} - another "assassin" who builds tank because the crit build is not attractive enough and on hit is so abusable(im talking about{{item:3930}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3071}} by passing his weaknesses ).Personally If you ask me Highlander should give less half attack speed and instead offer attack damage so people will stop with this on hit true damage BS(On normal Yi this wont change much as most crit yi's already build{{item:3142}} {{item:3046}} ).
Diana can oneshot less than 0.2 seconds. What makes her a fucking pain is that she can function as a fighter because her shield gives her such a massive defensive tool, tack that on to hourglass and you got yourself a fucking pain in the ass.
: Should i get rengar
No he's really fucking bad atm.
ybuR (NA)
: Make AP Champs abilites do 400% damage to minions
Honestly yeah i agree TF waveclear so bad red card Q should do 700% damage to minions instead. Lol wtf noob at least u die to zed level 1 for me zed use ult on me during loading screen and i lose game ff 30 seconds gg rito.
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jlcwvMjQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-16T23:39:16.574+0000) > > No. DFG was far more reliable. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Tell me how an execute passive is more reliable than flat 20% increased magic damage, from your ENTIRE team too? That's not counting the fact that you can't auto attack a single champion until the champion you actually want to assassinate, while mages can spam everything until they finally have the squishy backline in their sights.
: Removing Deathfire Grasp and then adding Duskblade kind of contradicts riot's balance philosophy
No. DFG was far more reliable. The only thing that's similar about them is their actives did damage and they had good stats.
: Why don't you guys want Jhin's reload time to be lower late game?
Because he hits 700 AD and letting him have any sort of consistent damage with that would be broken beyond belief.
: MKLol is illegal for other reasons. It provides some sort of unfair advantage through timers. Replay programs like Overwolf or Lolreplay are typically fine. They can't be *too* specific though, because people will just look for loopholes. Here's a relevant and useful link; http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/5kx4F7VE-reminder-third-party-applications
MK doesn't have timers that the in game doesn't provide already. It gives you timers on drag/baron and gives you blue/red timers if you saw them destroyed.
Andrionar (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VjbihAY3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-16T21:54:01.943+0000) > > Rengar can't do it without his ult. He doesn't have any sort of gapcloser coming from the jungle until level 6. > > Xin can do that at level 3. Idk what weed did you smoke, but at level 3 rengar can jump from bush, flash on you or just strightly come in to lane and snare you for 2 seconds by taking at least 50% of squieshy target hp. I have no problems against lvl 3 Xin ganks at all. Even Gragas with a decent offensive rune page could do the same or even more at level 3 and he HAS A GAP CLOSER!!!
1. How the fuck does jungle Rengar jump from a bush to the middle of mid lane. 2. The fucking snare is dodgeable. 3. Gragas has zero sustained damage later in fights, nor is his sustain through the roof in duels.
: Garen is definitely a much better top laner as he's very straightforward, easy to use, and can do alot of damage in all stages of the game while not being kited as much as darius. However if you were to be asked if you can either have a good darius or a good garen, what would you choose ?
Garen. Like you said, while they both have weaknesses Garen has less.
Quepha (NA)
: Don't nerf Kog'maw, nerf Guinsoo's
Before the winrate with rageblade he had 47% winrate. Now after being buffed he has 55% winrate. Yes it's the item's fault!
Andrionar (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VjbihAY3,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-16T21:47:07.104+0000) > > He was doing ok in my plat ranked games last season. Honestly I felt like the AD bonus ratio was fine, but the crit thing needs to go. He already had a really strong early game gank potential, now he's basically 100-40 you with basically zero counterplay early game unless you have flash/mobility spell. Rengar with 5 stacks practicaly could do the same... After the buff, I didn't saw any Xin player who would have caried the game, yet. I feel like hes almost as bad as he was, becouse it's very easy to kite him.
Rengar can't do it without his ult. He doesn't have any sort of gapcloser coming from the jungle until level 6. Xin can do that at level 3.
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OgLQberU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-02-16T21:34:56.789+0000) > > A champion Yes. A broken champion with absurdly high pick/win rate needs to be nerfed. Not everyone else.
A champion spikes up like 6% because of an item. Nerf the champion right?
Ñaofumi (NA)
: Why does the boards hate Jayce?
For one, Jayce is better at poking than lux and ezreal, only Xerath and Ziggs can beat him. And the reason people hate him is because he's bullshit. Oh, he walked out of lane, oh shit there's an undodgeable 50% of my HP now. Guess I'm going to sit at my tower for the next 20 minutes until my tank scales to mid game so he can CC jayce and we can finally take him down. It's almost impossible to fight against a good jayce as any sort of immobile melee champ. He wasn't even nerfed that hard after S4 worlds if I recall correctly. He just fell out of flavor because mages and assassins outperform him in the mid lane, and bruisers are more effective in the top lane. Because of the versatility of his kit, his ability to do almost everything, he can never be buffed because then he'd be TOO good at everything. And it was Pawn that popularized him for a short bit, not Dade. Dade was known for his yasuo play.
Andrionar (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VjbihAY3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-16T21:40:31.214+0000) > > That's plat+ only. Xin's mostly known as an insane snowballer in low elo. It's impossible to balance champions around both elos. Also Riven and Katarina has the same snowball potential in low elo, katarina might have even higher one, even if she's not viable in higher elo atm. To me, he felt almost usuless before the buff and now hes in an ok spot. P.S i don't play him
He was doing ok in my plat ranked games last season. Honestly I felt like the AD bonus ratio was fine, but the crit thing needs to go. He already had a really strong early game gank potential, now he's basically 100-40 you with basically zero counterplay early game unless you have flash/mobility spell.
Andrionar (EUNE)
: Are you sure m8? http://champion.gg/statistics/#?search=xin&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend
That's plat+ only. Xin's mostly known as an insane snowballer in low elo.
: Current state of Darius ?
He's literally useless unless you have a comp around him or you're playing against shit players. He's the definition of get camped get fucked, get fed get kited infinitely, get good wreck noobs until you face other good players. If you want to play something like him pick Garen.
: Gutting Runic Echoes instead of Udyr;
A champion that had a low pickrate and a mediocre winrate outside of sudden broken item being introduced (feral flare, devourer), suddenly spikes to 57% winrate after this item is released. Oh yeah it's the champion's fault.
Pika310 (NA)
: I've been saying for a long time that Rito hates Ahri, I don't understand why people wait until it's too late to finally see something that's been waved in front of their faces. TLDR: I saw this coming.
That's why she's had 54% winrate+ for the past year?
: That's funny, because I thought a game was supposed to be fun? I get that some people think winning is the only way to have fun, but most people are able to have fun even when they're losing. This game, to the original poster, is no longer fun, regardless of circumstances. The guy could be in Diamond and he'd probably still have the same complaint about his placements. He's not having fun with this game. And if you think getting better at this game in particular will result in you having more fun, you're only fooling yourself.
Yes a game is supposed to be fun. But obviously every game is supposed to have a competitive element. If you want to play League for fun, play normals. Because if you're playing a game for fun, you shouldn't care about ranking or anything. But as soon as you start playing ranked, you must accept the fact that some people REALLY care about their ranking. There's a difference between playing basketball for fun with your friends, and dicking around on your school's varsity basketball team. Wanna know? You'll get kicked out of your varsity sports team. Even though basketball is a sport for FUN for most people, some people are REALLY competitive about it and thus will train hard and work hard to win.
: Ranked Isn't fun Anymore. Please fix
Anymore? When was it fun? Ranked is for people who are trying to improve and hone their skills. It's not a playground.
: Do you guys think Jhin is too weak? (Poll)
Honestly against most comps in soloqueue he's trash because people won't peel. But they can't buff him because his passive steroid is fucking ridiculous. Like absolutely insane. He's like yasuo in that sense. In the right comp, good. In a bad comp, feeds and is useless. But because of their huge steroids they cannot be buffed to be more reliable, because then they'd be OP.
Lucky (NA)
: An AD Carry builds defensive items and gets more survivability.
The whole point of their class is to be glass cannon squishy. Steraks is basically giving them artificial tankiness that still has combat stats. You can't let a long ranged champion also be tanky and still four hit you, that'd be broken.
Lucky (NA)
: In an year or so, we'll have threads saying "I miss season 6"
I feel like each season just gets worse and worse. I mean it might just be the grass is always greener but that's just me.
: What will lol look like in two years?
Every ability is now a skillshot 100% true health max HP knock up slow three hit stun suppression taunt that heals everyone for 600% max HP that gives every champion and turret 100% damage reduction. Oh and Scuttle Crab now deals 1 true damage to you each time you auto attack it.
: If Lux is so popular and strong right now
Because Lux can farm safely and outscales in fights.
: > [{quoted}](name=UltraScept,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QiTNXNKx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-16T04:38:11.137+0000) > > Hexdrinker is the same as always and mercs even got nerfed, zeds rarely even build them now. > > Lissandra was never a "insta win" against zed. She's a solid pick because post six she can completely evade all attempts to kill her, and a non fed zed isn't very useful and generally resorts to splitpushing because liss outscales in teamfights. If you want an insta win pick malzahar. Malzahar isn't an instawin pick against Zed either. To be honest he is not even a counter like many people claim. It is a skill based matchup, because Malzahar will be harassed a lot by Zed and he has no mobility to respond against Zed's gap closers and against ganks. Also, Zed is an AD champion, so there are no downsides for him when purchasing QSS. However, Malzahar still outscales Zed in teamfights. To be honest due to the nature of Zed's kit, there are no instawin champions to use against him. There are picks that can deal with hm such as Malphite, Vladimir, Cho'Gath, and Fizz. But they are still not instawin.
Ok let me spell this out to you. Malzahar has very little mana issues if you know how to chain your E among the minions properly. Pre six zed will never land anything more than maybe a shadow E Q (never double Q unless you're walking in melee range). If you chain your E among the minions you completely zone him from the wave in fear of him losing a chunk of his HP from the E bounce. He cannot all in you pre six because you have your voidlings. Post six Malzahar cannot be dove (obvious reasons), and will only die if taking massive poke damage (again you have to be really bad at dodging because after a catalyst you don't even need to sit near the minion wave to clear it with your W Q E), basically denying Zed all kill potential. There are obvious downsides to building QSS in lane, like having absolutely no combat stats and then making both your poke and all in potential worthless against any champion, even squishies. Malzahar vs Zed is completely in the Malzahar's favor. If a Malzahar loses to zed he is either inexperienced or simply worse than the zed. Hell if you look at champion.gg, zed has a 46% winrate against Malzahar. And that's generally because people in plat+ can shut down malz in teamfights where he is weaker because he can get gangbanged. But Malz in lane has a massive advantage against anything squishy.
: The problem with Thunderlord's isnt just that it's strong...
That's because it's simply a little extra burst that is really effective early game. Of course every champion can fit well with more damage....
: Not even Lissandra can counter Zed anymore...
Hexdrinker is the same as always and mercs even got nerfed, zeds rarely even build them now. Lissandra was never a "insta win" against zed. She's a solid pick because post six she can completely evade all attempts to kill her, and a non fed zed isn't very useful and generally resorts to splitpushing because liss outscales in teamfights. If you want an insta win pick malzahar.
: Riot do you plan to release Armor With AP items?
You guys have RoA and Rylais for AP bruisers like cho.
: > [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TFqhxdjg,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-02-15T19:14:57.900+0000) > > who the fuck builds rapid fire cannon on a melee champion anyways? {{champion:107}}
Rapidfire cannon increases Rengar's leap range by such a pathetic amount it's just about worthless. You buy it for the cheap crit and bursty portion. And Dekar, the best Rengar, never even built it after they stopped letting the damage stack.
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