: You could send a screenshot to Riot support and they will likely do something about it. But the image, you're gonna have to black out the person's name or else moderators are gonna remove it. Yeah sorry you had to go through it.
> [{quoted}](name=MessyStuff,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=18z3N1We,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-09T04:13:55.343+0000) > > You could send a screenshot to Riot support and they will likely do something about it. But the image, you're gonna have to black out the person's name or else moderators are gonna remove it. Yeah sorry you had to go through it. Eh not really. some guy told me to kill myself an called me a %%%%%% in dms and i sent to riot support with an SS and he got away scot free.
: I hardly ever am bothered by bm but today it felt personal
buddy, if you int everygame ( which what you do) dont cry to boards when its YOU whos the problem.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: It's just his engage range. If Talon has to play it safe, he can't engage on me, because even with Flash, his engage is 1050 range. Yea, he gets some move speed, but I can react and move out of range and that's something I can expect. Zed's W lasts long enough to get both Q and E if he swaps almost before W ends, and WR max engage range is 1275 without flash, so I guess I don't need to say the range with flash, do I? That difference in range and W duration is quite high, so he doesn't lose his engage unless he sits stupidly far back and I'm at my max range for spells (in Ahri's case, 880) which means he can farm safely due to his passive without me being able to harass, making it a win-win for Zed. True, there are other factors like HP, armor, mana (for me), junglers, but even say I get ganked by a jungler, versus Talon or Ekko I can back up enough that unless the jungler is Amumu/Sej/Rammus to keep me slowed/stunned for long enough for them to get in range, I can get away, while from Zed it's much harder to do so and the jungler can add up the extra damage needed for Zed's R to get a kill.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktAfpeZN,comment-id=002a0000,timestamp=2018-12-26T16:03:38.509+0000) > > It's just his engage range. If Talon has to play it safe, he can't engage on me, because even with Flash, his engage is 1050 range. Yea, he gets some move speed, but I can react and move out of range and that's something I can expect. > > Zed's W lasts long enough to get both Q and E if he swaps almost before W ends, and WR max engage range is 1275 without flash, so I guess I don't need to say the range with flash, do I? > > That difference in range and W duration is quite high, so he doesn't lose his engage unless he sits stupidly far back and I'm at my max range for spells (in Ahri's case, 880) which means he can farm safely due to his passive without me being able to harass, making it a win-win for Zed. > > True, there are other factors like HP, armor, mana (for me), junglers, but even say I get ganked by a jungler, versus Talon or Ekko I can back up enough that unless the jungler is Amumu/Sej/Rammus to keep me slowed/stunned for long enough for them to get in range, I can get away, while from Zed it's much harder to do so and the jungler can add up the extra damage needed for Zed's R to get a kill. are you autistic? zed w is on a 22second cd. talon wis on a 9 second cd early and his q is also 8. tat means talon can get a free passive proc and zed ha to lose 60 percent of his hp or he dies.
: btw u are an idiot :) if u watch ll stylish streamers u will see that he uses oracle when Talon uses R so he can hit em with Q then its done :) U are the real garbage here ;)))
> [{quoted}](name=Spirit DevilI ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktAfpeZN,comment-id=001e00000001,timestamp=2018-12-25T21:00:53.799+0000) > > btw u are an idiot :) > if u watch ll stylish streamers u will see that he uses oracle when Talon uses R so he can hit em with Q then its done :) > U are the real garbage here ;))) who the fuck buys oracle early (nonsupp)
Rylalei (EUNE)
: Being honest, I do feel sorry for him being so downvoted for missing the point of the thread. It's not about "learning to play" versus Zed. Unlike other assassins, unless he's a complete noob, the lane has no interaction. The "good" Zeds play the lane like an artillery mage yet still retain his all in potential due to his insane engage range. As I said in multiple comments, you don't "win" vs Zed even if in the same scenario, every other assassin would be set behind and punished. I can shove the lane into his tower, but due to his passive and his low cd Q, he can thin the wave being able to almost perfectly last hit everything, and there's no counter play to that, I can't do anything to stop his passive, and if I try to harass him under tower, depending on what I play, I risk taking a WEQ + Electrocute combo and maybe even a tower shot, while as I said, other Assassins can't do that. I showe Ekko under tower? He'll lose farm, he can't last hit almost everything perfectly, so if I outplay him correctly and poke him, he can't really fight back, he either comes close to the wave and tries to Q me as well as the wave, risking taking more damage himself, and if he's behind already, that's bad for him, or just tries to grab some cs with Q and loses a bunch to tower, same goes for Talon and anyone, except Zed, he can both farm and harass if you're not careful because of his 1550 harass range on WQ and there's his passive, as I said, allowing him to last hit almost everything, making him stupidly safe. Winning trades versus Zed just isn't rewarding, unless he's a complete noob or you are something that can 100-0 him instantly and have the means to harass from a high enough range that the tower won't hit you and you're so far away that WQ is hard to land, Zed just goes even, he doesn't lose, when all other Assassins in the same scenario would lose and get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktAfpeZN,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2018-12-25T07:26:14.632+0000) > > Being honest, I do feel sorry for him being so downvoted for missing the point of the thread. > > It's not about "learning to play" versus Zed. Unlike other assassins, unless he's a complete noob, the lane has no interaction. The "good" Zeds play the lane like an artillery mage yet still retain his all in potential due to his insane engage range. > > As I said in multiple comments, you don't "win" vs Zed even if in the same scenario, every other assassin would be set behind and punished. I can shove the lane into his tower, but due to his passive and his low cd Q, he can thin the wave being able to almost perfectly last hit everything, and there's no counter play to that, I can't do anything to stop his passive, and if I try to harass him under tower, depending on what I play, I risk taking a WEQ + Electrocute combo and maybe even a tower shot, while as I said, other Assassins can't do that. I showe Ekko under tower? He'll lose farm, he can't last hit almost everything perfectly, so if I outplay him correctly and poke him, he can't really fight back, he either comes close to the wave and tries to Q me as well as the wave, risking taking more damage himself, and if he's behind already, that's bad for him, or just tries to grab some cs with Q and loses a bunch to tower, same goes for Talon and anyone, except Zed, he can both farm and harass if you're not careful because of his 1550 harass range on WQ and there's his passive, as I said, allowing him to last hit almost everything, making him stupidly safe. > > Winning trades versus Zed just isn't rewarding, unless he's a complete noob or you are something that can 100-0 him instantly and have the means to harass from a high enough range that the tower won't hit you and you're so far away that WQ is hard to land, Zed just goes even, he doesn't lose, when all other Assassins in the same scenario would lose and get punished. the only way he can trade is on a 22 second cool down what?
: As a Talon main i agree with u in pre-season 9 and season 8 Zed became a Talon counter Zed can farm with Q and poke ur shit out with WEQ lol then they nerf mages? hope i see incoming zed nerfs ")
> [{quoted}](name=Spirit DevilI ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktAfpeZN,comment-id=001e,timestamp=2018-12-25T18:50:09.668+0000) > > As a Talon main i agree with u > in pre-season 9 and season 8 Zed became a Talon counter > Zed can farm with Q and poke ur shit out with WEQ lol then they nerf mages? > hope i see incoming zed nerfs ") WHAT LOL TALON legit shits on zed bc his burst is stronger, early level is stronger and his ult counters your ult. if you're losing to zed as talon you're just garbage
Rylalei (EUNE)
: Question about Zed, the most annoying assassin to face of them all
LMAOO silver 4 ahri player with negative wr complaining about zed im deceased

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