: Why are towers always buffed in the weirdest ways?
You guys aren't "the majority of players". This place probably consists of less than 1% of the player base, please stop saying that.
: We don't honestly really have any evidence people actually voted for it and it wasn't rigged. People from both reddit and this forum seem to have favored Adventurer and deep space over the battle-cast which was widely known to be the least popular.
You dont seem to understand how tiny of a fraction the boards and reddit contain of the entire playerbase. Thats why no one here should ever say "the community agrees" or "the community hates" because frankly this place is a very tiny and very biased part of the actual community.
: How can I take this ranked system seriously, when this happens on a daily basis ?
That happened to me for awhile too, fell from d3 to d5 and my mmr got so bad that I was gaining 13 and losing 24. My tip to you is to get very good at jungling and camp bot every game, thats what Ive been doing and I managed to get to d4 with my fucked up lp gains.
: The boards and reddit have always only been a minority of the community as a whole as they are the only players who are vocal about what they think. Just because the boards aren't lit up with complaint threads doesn't mean that the majority of the community doesn't think that assassins are still bad. AD assassins have sat on the top of the assassin tiers ever since Riot did hardcore tinkering with lethality and squeezed out the current iteration of Dusk Blade. They build their Duskblade, choose between BC and Ghost blade or Ghost blade and BC, then just do their thing. They aren't really broken but they're definitely stronger than their AP counterparts. AP assassins have been in the dumpster for awhile because when it came to the update they're the ones who got the short end of the stick and had their kits hit with "counterplay". "Counterplay" Which funnily enough doesn't have to apply to champions who are currently doing an assassins job better than assassins but being ignored because they're classified differently. Fizz was broken for being able to 1 shot an ADC with a full combo, Riven flash diving a full 5 man team and 1 tapping the squishies with 2 abilities and cleaning up the rest is perfectly acceptable.
Out of curiosity which ap assassins do you think are weak currently? Because Ekko, Katatina, Kassadin, Fizz and Diana arent even bad, I'd go as far to say Katarina is too strong. Leblanc isnt bad either, but leblanc isnt an assassin.
: Hey ToxicShaco, I see that you're actually only level 21. I've got good news for ya. We redesigned the 1–30 leveling curve specifically to give out more BE overall, and [we even published the EXACT numbers to prove it](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/hAaYMrEs-leveling-and-rewards-early-impressions-and-adjustments). Once you check out the post, you'll see charts that show you exactly how much BE each level up to 30 will give out, along with estimates of how many games it'll take you to get there. We also showed in that post how we also made leveling 1–30 faster in the new system. So the change actually is a win-win for you. We're going to spread the information in this post a lot more widely so more folks like you can see for themselves how the new system is better. Sorry about the confusion!
How do you guys deal with this shit? lol.
: Sona doesn't need nerfs. The Sorcery and Domination trees need to be looked at.
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jAjUjgEk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-12T02:15:50.043+0000) > > your most played is anivia. > > id prefer a champ that didnt have infinite wave clear after certain items and was able to one shot much less half shot my squishy team mates with a q e . > > not saying shes op but shes just as annoying. Anivia the champion that counters the current Meta Champion is op? Hello are you just dumb? If she didn't exist we have to deal with amount of absurd shit all the time.
Has she been countering the entire meta for months now too? Just wondering if thats why she always has like a 54 wr.
: Because champions like Corki exist. ADCs that do magic damage.
Oh ic one champ = 3, and can be played on both teams at the same time. Damn thanks again boards.
dominusx (EUNE)
: Reminder the game has been overhauled and adcs still broken as shit.
Sry ppl dont pick mages anymore according to the boards, too weak. So why would they have 3 magic dealers :thinking:?
Poske (EUNE)
: just build Morellonomicon Yes mana stat is wasted but guess what IT IS STILL EFFICIENT Many do it
This. Morello, lucidity, zhonyas Vlad is actually really good.
GigglesO (NA)
: I like aftershock, but what if I play champions that don't have a hard CC like olaf and Morde? What then, how am I supposed to get my tank stats. Damage is nice and all, but you have two issues with champs like Morde and Olaf. 1) being tanky enough to get to them 2) having the damage to kill them once you get to them. New runes don't give enough damage to those type of champs to heavily spec damage, and build tank. They also don't give enough tank to spec tank and build damage. For the record, I also like unflinching, but I shouldn't have to burn my summoners to get the tenacity.
Mind explaining this one to me? Shouldn't you just be going phase rush on these champs? And haven't these champs always went for offensive masteries? I think im missing the arguement.
: *rolls eyes* Yea, because he's completely useless without his shadow.
: Just f*cking venting about Hyper-Mobility
Lol "no risk". No risk is Lux/Xerath sitting at 1k range and throwing all their shit around, or a fed tristana /twitch blasting people at high range with their supports pressing their skill buttons on them. Risk is jumping into the enemy team as a squishy champion in a meta where there insane amounts of shields and heals flying around. I couldn't even bring myself to read past that. Whenever someone says mobile assassins have 0 risk, I just can't lol.
: I think it's about time we have "AD" Support!
Because supports are either tanks, healers/shielders, or champs with enough base damage that they dont really need that much gold to top the charts. Not sure how a physical damage champion is going to fit in there without just going to another lane.
Fowus (NA)
: wtf? zed would have gotten shut down so easily by ssg considering they had malz all 3 games
Zed wouldve gotten shut down considering the meta they are playing in lol.
: Roa, glp, protobelt, deathcap, ludens off the top of my head
: Buffing underperforming items would indeed solve item choice issue.
Which items would you say are underperforming? P.s. Dont talk about buffing rylais that will make me kms myself hehe.
: How do people come up with this shit?
Boards is full of mage mains. They also somehow managed to go from "we dont have enough choices in our items" to " our items are weak, buff them pls".
: > [{quoted}](name=TrashAtThisGame,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oajUVlEs,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2017-11-05T17:55:08.218+0000) > > Crown did nothing relevant that whole series except press R, because AP or AD aside, a point and click suppression is useful. Malzahar wasn't picked for his damage that series. He was picked for his reliable cc. Faker tried his hardest to carry that series, and the only thing that mattered was the underperforming Bang. > > The casters even said it at one point. Crown was essentially another support. > > The moment an AD mid with CC shows himself, there will be no reason to ever pick an AP mid again. What is this thread about? I want you to think about what you just said. I'm going to quote it for you again. >Before mages / ap assasins were chosen due their kits, they could rely on them damage or utility, now ap are just play to force tanks build mr And what about Ryze and Karma? Were they picked for their point and click suppressions? Karma for her high CC? Was Syndra being played for her stun? Does Yasuo no longer have hard CC? Maybe think before you whip out the victim complex
LOL exactly. People just need to find a reason to call mages weak.
: Yasuo is still stupid. And broken.
Lol quality post, thnx for sharing.
: Maybe hilarious for the person playing her, but I have the sinking feeling anyone fighting against her is going to be hurling their computer monitor through a wall in frutration and rage. I could understand all that mobility if it ends up being that she's super squishy, but I'm terrified that's simply not going to be the case, and we're going to see another "Tank Ekko" style situation and have a champ that is super mobile, high damage, AND very survivable all in one package.
People say that about Yasuo a lot, but I have really never gotten too frustrated playing against him. Mobility doesnt bother me. And you are making a lot of assumptions when you dont even know her kit.
: New Champ: Zoe, the Aspect of Twilight preview
Boards: We hate yasuo CerainlyT: Hold my beer On a side note this champ looks absolutely hilarious.
: {{sticker:sg-soraka}} Can you deny the cuteness of pouting Soraka?
: WTF making a post without any complain... wrong board {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
I honestly hate the board emotes, but that miss fortune one is kinda funny not gonna lie.
: Assassins still had their place in s4, but right now everyone is an assassin
Assassins had their place in s4 because there werent a bunch of new support items to cockblock you. Leblanc and Talon still had their silences, and all of them still had their old burst speed.
Squey (NA)
: damage creep is up but it seems like more of a flat value. Thats why champions designed to burst either get ahead and destroy or are even and get out damage by everyone else. Thats because even sustained damage is more bursty now. And with the inclusion of shield and damage reduction items. Sustained damage is going to always out perform burst champions. Vlad never used to 1 combo people till full build and even then he had to be going with a very offensive build. But then item buffs and bad reworks have made him a burst mage on top of good sustained damage. Lux used to be love for her 100-0 potential. Now any mage with items can 100-0 a squishy if they get a full combo with similar items. ranged top laners used to poke you out of lane. Now they combo you out of lane as soon as u get back to it. junglers used to be weaker then lanes. They would just be helping the lane. This season especially junglers are usually just as strong or stronger then the lanes for most of the early game. It used to take assassins landing there combo to kill people. Now its not required. A zed ult e auto will do 800 damage by itself with just 1 item. akali and dianna only need 1 ult to kill . Tanks used to win trades by just being more durable and having mini sunfire. Now tanks have base damage almost as high as mages. Its alot higher then almost all bruiser and skirmisher ability base damage. It used to be tank would outscale your damage with there durability. So you had to punish them early. Now tanks have the stronger early game but get outscaled by the damage.
Zed can only do that kind of dmg with his passive and duskblade., and even then its like 500-600 dmg vs a mid laner who built armor. He is still completely reliant on hitting his q. If duskblade wasnt an item Zed would actually be terrible.
: Preseason has always built on previous seasons. This is the first *destructive* preseason the game's had. If the new runes come out and people start thinking the old runes were better, that's gonna be a major concern since there's no feasible way to return to the old runes after that point. This project is probably one of Riot's riskiest ones since they're shaking up one of the foundations of the game so hard.
Well the old masteries arent better so you dont have to worry about that. There are more options now, and very strong options can always be tuned down during preseason.
: Calling it now: Dark Harvest is going to make A LOT of people mad. VERY mad.
Thats what preseason is for lol, what do you mean this season has BIG stakes?
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=UrZedM8,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VTv4Ykbu,comment-id=0000000400000000,timestamp=2017-10-29T10:33:08.043+0000) > > Its dependant on the skill if the Ahri player actually. Literally everything in this matchup is on ahri. She can dash after he ults, she has the range advantage, she has the ability to charm straight out of zeds ult. And you are talking about gold, even I can 1v5 in gold, players in that elo dont understand much about the game. I think your assumption is frivolous and wrong. Gold does occasionally get misplaced players, but that doesn't mean the Majority don't understand the game, or that they don't have very good luck. From what I've seen: Gold consists of four groups of people: -Ex Plat/Diamonds who placed poorly in their placements and are stuck suffering the curse of "new accounts with placements" lopsiding many of their games. -People who have worked hard and went up from Bronze to Gold by fighting elo hell, know quite a bit about the game and can play at a fast predictive pace. -People creating new accounts after being perma banned whose skill levels are much higher than gold. -People who place gold, try to stay there, but inevitably Bronze/silver players who eventually get filtered down to where they should be. The first 2 are just as common as the last one at any given time, but they are more populous, and are replaced as they filter out. The third spoils a disproportionate set of games, because it's not really fair when a Challenge pro player jumps into a game with people who are plagued by low latency, the randomness of placements, and at least a medium degree of skepticism of other players on your team. (for example, if I op.gg and find a smurf, I tell my teams, and I generally advise them what to do and not to do to help corner that smurf... like who is the most likely feeder on the other team, how to build to prevent the smurf from snowballing, to farm, to be protective of infernal drakes around their timers..... teams rarely listen to any of it, but sometimes do). I'm not going to claim to be perfect at all. I'm a good pather, and a good strategist towards knowing how to play certain champ compilations. But I have a horrible attitude.... the one where when I expect a laner to do their job on a gank, and they don't, which results in one of my 2-4 deaths a game.... I get touchy and argumentative. I'm also not too fond when a direct counter feeds a game disrupter like Nasus, Riven, Zed, or Kha. Once fed, those champs have very little counterplay, except zerging them, which leaves his/her other teammates the opportunity to snowball too or take objectives. If I wasn't verbal, I'm easily about Plat I - Diamond IV. I'm usually that one person who can take a 15/0 Riven and dumpster her under a turret. But, by then my team's already given up. This account's only about 1 1/2 months old. When the new Evelynn came out, I had pretty good success in norms with her to where I considered my play to be up to putting her into ranked, and I was playing the meta. I quickly found out that wasn't true. While I could pull a 9-10 kill game with 2-3 deaths at most, I just wasn't contributing to my team enough to actually carry the games. They didn't know how to interact with her, and she couldn't compensate their lack of lane pushes, or CS enough to compensate her team/other teams cannibalizing her jungle in between ganks. I've worked out some build modifications that seem to work about 90% of the time vs any champ composition, so I've been able to switch back to Eve and use her to climb a bit to recover what I lost playing her. I won't get back up to the Plat IV MMR I had by week 3 of the account, but I will probably be able to get back up to about a Gold II MMR if I get enough time to play. But atm.... I'm lowly Silver II.... because ranked just wasn't ready for Eve, when Eve was ready for ranked. Ofc, it's partially due to verbal harassment too.
You probably wont like what im about to say, but if you continue to climb as you play this game you will probably find out anyway. Gold players are terrible, plat players are terrible, low diamond players are terrible, people begin to actually get good at high diamond but still are terrible compared to actual good players. Of course good is a relative term. From your prespective you probably think low diamond players are amazing at this game, but from an actual high elo players perspective they are garbage. And again you probably wont like what im about to say, but you aren't at a plat-diamond level, if you were you would be there and not have a negative winrate in silver. You talk about what you are good at, but dont realize the millions of mistakes you are probably making. And being verbal will only hold you back so far, I know because I do the same thing and can still get to plat in 50 games. Sorry if this came out a bit harsh, really want to avoid that, but its hard to make something like that sound nice.
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=UrZedM8,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VTv4Ykbu,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2017-10-28T17:33:40.838+0000) > > I really dont see how this is possible lol, if you have that big of a lead and you are dying, especially as Ahri, youbare misplaying big time. It depends on the elo of the zed. A good zed can literally follow Ahri's ult, and hit her twice mid ult before she ults a second time, and his proc on ult will kill her before her third hop. Ahri's ult is not an untargettable or a blink; It's character movement, and entirely vulnerable. I've had a rank 69 Zed 1v5 my team in Gold once, and every kill occurred in less than 1-2 seconds, because he was able to proc every hit in the blink of an eye and get out of any harm by going back to his shadow. It didn't matter if you were predicting his shadow jump, or whether he was staying. While you tried to figure it out, he 1 shot you.
Its dependant on the skill if the Ahri player actually. Literally everything in this matchup is on ahri. She can dash after he ults, she has the range advantage, she has the ability to charm straight out of zeds ult. And you are talking about gold, even I can 1v5 in gold, players in that elo dont understand much about the game.
: Is Ryze worth playing anymore?
He is fine, just takes skill.
: I've played against Zed as Ahri so many times, and most of the time I manage to get kills on him early. Even when I killed him 3 times in lane, the second that guy gets Duskblade, I know I can't fight him anymore. Not even if I get Zhonya's (he can just wait for it to time out then kill me). This happens very often, almost everytime I face a Zed. It feels so bad, knowing I should be stronger... Yet it doesn't matter. He got his duskblade. The lane is over. If I do try to fight him it ends with me dead. Not a single time I've managed to 1v1 him at that point, despite me being several levels ahead, having 5 kills and 50 cs on him and having 1.5 items more. I wish I was exaggerating, but I'm not. The powerspike it provides is too massive. Any other champion with Duskblade just oneshots aswell. Imo it gives far too much power. Try playing against a Rengar who kills you in 0.35 seconds, or an ad Renekton with Duskblade (0.56 seconds with only a duskblade). The problem -in my opinion- is that it gives a lot of extra damage without having to really do much for it. Duskblade is the difference between getting oneshot in half a second, and getting oneshot in 1.5 seconds -something I think has much more counterplay.
I really dont see how this is possible lol, if you have that big of a lead and you are dying, especially as Ahri, youbare misplaying big time.
Kachomp (NA)
: Vasilli neeeds to be perma banned
No one knows if he actually hit her or not. If your question is should he be banned for something that wasnt in game? Probably not, thats the police's job not riot's.
: As I said in the post, ardent had been in the same state for 10 straight patches before people realized. A small nerf makes sense given that. Janna is also a very safe character, naturally she's going to have a higher Winrate. Hence the mini-rework. Not too mention she was hotfix nerfed twice when that happened.
How did small nerfs make sense given that ardent was completely warping the game? That arguement you are using is terrible, although I agree with your actual post, small nerfs made no sense given how ridiculous ardent was.
Yenn (NA)
: Solo queue needs to be fixed, skill discrepancies are getting out of hand
Yeah I had a similar problem, I was d3 and lost like 25 games back to back while playing well for a majority of the games. I decided that maybe I just have the worst luck in the world, so I stopped playing soloq at d5 0lp and now I only play flex q until this season is over.
: You know what is disappointing right now? Nocturne
I too get disappointed when i use my brain and the enemy support starts banging their head on the keyboard and i get outplayed. But I suppose this is the meta riot likes xd.
Shylien (NA)
: "Overtuned defensive support itemization and kits are negating burst!"
Careful the support mains will be angry that you dared to blame their 100% balanced champions/items and not the big bully adcs.
jonisen22 (EUW)
: What is it that makes Yasuo able to withstand so much?
If he e's through your whole team then its probably your imagination.
: It's not that people believe they should have the opportunity to win any game at any time. It's a matter of having an actual viable strategy to turn to if you fall behind, not just hope for an enemy throw. Not that I agree with the OP on this one in particular, but snowballing does have to be kept in check. When it's too easy to snowball, games suffer.
You are contradicting yourself here. "its not that people believe they should have the opportunity to win any game at any time," and "its a matter of having an actual viable strategy to turn if you fall behind." An actual viable strategy entails that it works consistently. What you want are consistent ways to win from behind, the game isnt supposed to work like that. You are supposed to get a lead and win the game with that said lead, comebacks have always happened when the winning team begins to throw.
: I miss that group shield the inner towers had in S5. Why are we allowed 0 actual comeback mechanics?
Out of curiosity why do people think comebacks should always be an option? The team that gets the advantage early should always have a very high chance to win the game. And if your complaint about that is "but what about late game champs?" Should late game champs not come with the disadvantage of losing to early game champs snowballing the game? Comebacks should be rare, they should not be an every game thing while the enemy team is playing well.
Yma S (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=UrZedM8,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=06JIzNc0,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-21T21:41:46.368+0000) > > So I take it you just got completely dumpstered by a Yasuo? my most played hero is morde I shit on yasuo in lane matchups. But doesn't excuse his design being awful also that isn't an arguement.
Ah yes there it is. The Xerath vs Yasuo game where he went 17/5. Im sure you played perfectly and its just Yasuo being bullshit though.
Yma S (NA)
: Hey Riot no one likes Yasuo
So I take it you just got completely dumpstered by a Yasuo?
: Evelynn: The Assassin With No Gap Closer
You want to give hef a gapcloser with the way her charm works? Uh idk about that.
: Is there a single justifiable reason to pick evelynn over kha'zix?
Is there a single justifiable reason to pick Kha Zix over a tank?
: Here's to a dream for a new season with a new beginning and hopefully real legitimate variety
Im pretty sure the meta will be the exact same until something is done about adcs, supports and tanks. You can quote me on that if you want.
: When you don't realise that live patch is 7.20 while worlds is played on 7.18.
When you don't realize ardent is still broken and bot lane is still doing the same exact shit.
: I think the new Kat and Zed skins look worse than sewn chaos blitz & amumu
The skins are just so messy, every skin made by riot recently looks so good but these two are so bad lol.
Pauuuul (EUW)
: Tbh I really dislike the Zed skin.
Its not good lol, everything about it is just off.
: no one likes Zed and Katarina, why even chose them why not a someone that people like
Zed and Kat both maintain higher playrates than most of the champions in the game... Do you mean to say you dont like them? Maybe even the mage and support mains on the boards don't like them? What even is this?
: The Problem with Ornn is that he's insanely clunky and has no front loaded CC for a tank.
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