: Some of the items feels completely broken. A 1star {{champion:236}} with {{item:3109}} should not be able to out damage AND HEAL 2 3star champs, aka {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}}
> [{quoted}](name=MoonFlux97,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=4HOMjBEE,comment-id=001f,timestamp=2019-07-04T03:47:08.944+0000) > > Some of the items feels completely broken. A 1star {{champion:236}} with {{item:3109}} should not be able to out damage AND HEAL 2 3star champs, aka {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} But that is supposed to be the FUN part of the RNG.. Still think this game will go the way of the Dominion in less than 1 year.
: Yeah, but that's why there's 8 players in the game, and you can play more than once. Everyone has the exact same RNG. Whether it's "good" or "bad" RNG, it's the same. Over 100 games, the better player wins more than the bad player because the RNG evens out. Even in a single game, a bad player will take a bad roll and get 8th, and a good player will take the exact same bad roll and get 4th. It's similar, but also yes different, than ranked solo queue. You're lowering the odds of having an inter/troller on your team because you are on your team. But there's still the RNG that you get that player, or you get the lowest ranked player in the game. The RNG is the sweet, sweet essence of a game like TFT. It's why it's streamable, it's why it's going to be a great esport. The randomness is exciting in both the items and the shop, and watching people work with the RNG and flex their muscles to decrease their "bad rng" through builds, flexibility, econ, etc is soooo much fun to watch.
> [{quoted}](name=Qwinnie The Pooh,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=4HOMjBEE,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-07-04T02:06:05.497+0000) > > Yeah, but that's why there's 8 players in the game, and you can play more than once. Everyone has the exact same RNG. Whether it's "good" or "bad" RNG, it's the same. Over 100 games, the better player wins more than the bad player because the RNG evens out. Even in a single game, a bad player will take a bad roll and get 8th, and a good player will take the exact same bad roll and get 4th. It's similar, but also yes different, than ranked solo queue. You're lowering the odds of having an inter/troller on your team because you are on your team. But there's still the RNG that you get that player, or you get the lowest ranked player in the game. The RNG is the sweet, sweet essence of a game like TFT. It's why it's streamable, it's why it's going to be a great esport. The randomness is exciting in both the items and the shop, and watching people work with the RNG and flex their muscles to decrease their "bad rng" through builds, flexibility, econ, etc is soooo much fun to watch. I still do not get it.. You have no control over what items/champs you get, you have no control over how those champs attack/use abilities in game and you call this FUN???? I would rather watch paint dry on a wall, way more entertaining... Maybe we can stream a wall of fresh paint and a TFT game and see who wins.. my money is on the wall
: Teamfight Tactics-- /Dev Update: Your Feedback and the Road Ahead
I predict this will go the way of all the rest of the game "modes" Riot has tried over the years. The novelty will wear off and the RNG aspect of the game will get tiring and boring. Less and less will play until... Then again maybe this will pull all the Trolls from LoL into TFT...
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preside (NA)
: Team composition/Ranked MMR/Winstreak Losestreak
1. No one and I mean no one is 100% 2. If you are a gold/plat smurf carrying is easy.. Esp when you can get Iron players in a Silver Match.
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: Ranked (afk and feeders)
This is a big problem still... people do not report because they feel it is worthless and RIOT will not do anything to the afk/feeder To bounce between ranks because you have a jung who cannot jung or a top feeder or an afk is annoying. I do not mind losing but not this way.,
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: I've recently play fiddlesticks in the midlane and his mana goes down pretty fast. However I do understand that support fiddlesticks with the pre-patch 8.15 is too low but I believe the mana cost should be lowered to 65 or 67 mana because fiddlesticks is overly reliant to mana and could be difficult to lane using him.
Fiddle is still fine in the mid lane. You cannot spam your darkwind and need to time it with killing at least 1 minion so you get bounces to the other champ. It is also a great zoning tool, just auto the minions and if they get close darkwind them. Any melee champ will have to keep their distance. I can normally push them out of lane easily with this. I still take flash/tp on him but want to try flash/ignite. Get them low with darkwind, hit lvl3, flash fear, dw, drain and ignite = kill. This patch will hurt him a little. But not that bad.
: Death of a Marksman? -- "Marksmen are feeling the brunt of "adapt or die" that every other lane has always faced over the years. It's just happening all at once now."
The problem I see at the Pro level is the amount of time it takes to get "good" at a set of champions. There is an old saying that if someone/thing is multipurpose it will be no good at any purpose. Meaning if you are a jack of all trades you will be so-so on all of them and not an expert at any one. I.E. The handyman vs the certified electrician/plumber.. Pro players are expected to be "experts" at what they do, mechanically, gameplay, shotcalling, etc.. In order to get to this level requires hours and hours and hours of playing and practice. To expect them to shift on a moments (patch) notice to a completely different set of champions/play style(s) is not realistic. And given the current nature of the game, with patches applied every 2 weeks, even if they take the time and grind, what they have just learned maybe outdated in 2 weeks. IMO the changes need to slow down and let the game stablize. Fix bugs, deal with new champs/reworks that may need a tweek. But otherwise leave the game alone! Utok
: Patch 8.4 notes
Arghh Vision is now even harder w/o Trackers Knife .. Fiddle Buffed and Nerfed ... His clear will be harder now in mid..
: Fiddlesticks rework or any changes in the future?
Leave Fiddle alone.. With the latest Rune changes he is actually really OP mid now. Try Aery on him and you have a long range bomb that can zone anyone. You can get them to 1/2 health in no time and push them out of lane or set them up for an easy gank. His Ult is not really his strength, it is his E and Q/W. The E can be used to clear lanes and zone in teamfights. Watch them scramble to get away from each other and then you can pick off the one who ran in the 'wrong' direction. The Q is a get out of gank free card when your flash is down :-) (90%+ of the time). His W is a free sustain in lane until I need/want to go back. I agree he takes some time to learn. Especially his Ult and when and where u can use it. Since the new runes I have played him mid a lot. Actually getting tired of pushing people out of lane, killing them with aery. Kinda boring now.. Utok
: Seriously, no one else is mad about the IP to blue essence conversion?
I got well over 150K+ total BE. I do not remember what I started with (like 100k ish). Still have 155k+ after I bought a few things. Ward skins, icons, etc. I do not recall what I got from runes for BE but it was a fair deal IMO.
AdanYEva (NA)
: The capsules arent bad, it's the burden of repeatedly selling useless champion shards.
Try having all the champs so whatever you get is worthless.. Unless you want to save them for Mastery 6/7 upgrades but that is only if you get the ones you play. A 1 in X chance since I have them all..
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Subdue (NA)
: You know, it's really easy to focus on the losses and blame others, while at the same time thinking all your wins are because you're the greatest. But there have been games where you've played poorly and still gotten a win because your team carried you too. The idea is that the games where you're not the factor that determines which team wins or loses balance each other out over time. http://picpaste.com/pics/awdaf-Z38GR6CK.1499147385.JPG
> [{quoted}](name=Subdue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A50vdEgk,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2017-07-04T05:51:23.467+0000) > > You know, it's really easy to focus on the losses and blame others, while at the same time thinking all your wins are because you're the greatest. But there have been games where you've played poorly and still gotten a win because your team carried you too. The idea is that the games where you're not the factor that determines which team wins or loses balance each other out over time. > > http://picpaste.com/pics/awdaf-Z38GR6CK.1499147385.JPG No they do not.. ive had plenty of games ranked and normals where I have held lane, roamed and my team has fed. 1st twr and 9 deaths in 10 min. that is a death a min... no way to dig out of that hole.
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: Wow, it's so true that people don't like change, however I for one love the new system for getting in games. I've been playing since season one and ranked game set up was so toxic before, nothing but fighting and champs you wanted to play getting banned. Before you got in game most people were already hacked off. I'm glad it takes time to pick and ban and talk about strategy -- that's what LoL is all about. If you can't deal with that then don't play ranked games. I've won way more games since the new set up came out, and our team talks about roles and choices. It was a bit of a challenge at first but once we got used it to it and understood the process it works really well. Thanks to the Riot team for finally having a game start that makes the process less toxic and more rewarding for what and where you want to play. And IMO teambuilder was never that great -- I used it a few times and hated it. So please don't bring back teambuilder, it's not needed. To the rest of you I say learn the new system, you'll get used to it. It will make you a better league player to understand the correct way to pick and work together as a team prior to getting in game. I'm sure they will make some tweaks to it as Riot always improves on things however, I don't see much wrong with it except that people in general are not used to it yet. See you on the Rift and may the odds be ever in your favor!
I agree this new system is great for Norm/Ranked Draft. It is a complete disaster for the casual player who: Does not give a flip about bans Does not really care about playing in the whatever is the new and current meta. Which changes with the direction of the wind Just wants to play a game with a specific champ in a specific lane, just to have some fun. The new queue fails at all of this.
IDeoxite (NA)
: I think everyone is complaining too much about new champ select
People are not complaining about the new queue. I personally think for draft (normal or ranked) it is a much better system. What they are complaining about is the removal of TB and being forced to play Normal Draft. (Blind Pick is a non-starter for so many reasons..).
: If you can only play one role, you've probably been ruining everyone else's time when you're forced to play something else. My advice is learn to play more than one champ more than one role. Expecting Riot to cater to your limited capabilities is really foolish.
> [{quoted}](name=aceofsween,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=FyrIGAGE,comment-id=00b40000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-15T20:08:35.765+0000) > > If you can only play one role, you've probably been ruining everyone else's time when you're forced to play something else. My advice is learn to play more than one champ more than one role. Expecting Riot to cater to your limited capabilities is really foolish. It is not a matter of being able to play only one role or not. In TB you were not forced to play another role. You got what and where you wanted period. Some of us just want at times to hop on play a game or two (because we have things to do in the real world). TB was perfect for this, no having to think about bans or meta.. just play. If you win great, if you lose great.. No pressure just a game...
: Why did this have to replace Team Builder? Why can't we have both? I'm a casual player because I have a wife, kids and a job. When I get on I just want to get on and have fun and play what I wanted to play and who. Team Builder was a nice laid back atmosphere to do just that in. It wasn't taken super seriously, and was just meant to get in there and have fun playing how/who you wanted to. This is effectively going to turn that into a draft/ranked-lite mode. And that sucks. Riot, not everyone who plays this game is a teenager with few responsibilities. Some of us have very limited time to play and just like to get on and play who we want when we want to. Anymore the only things I do in this game is play Team Builder and ARAM. Now that Team Builder is gone I guess it's ARAM or nothing for me now. Thanks, Riot.
> [{quoted}](name=ToadKillerDog7,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=FyrIGAGE,comment-id=00f7,timestamp=2016-01-10T10:26:23.662+0000) > > Why did this have to replace Team Builder? Why can't we have both? I'm a casual player because I have a wife, kids and a job. When I get on I just want to get on and have fun and play what I wanted to play and who. > > Team Builder was a nice laid back atmosphere to do just that in. It wasn't taken super seriously, and was just meant to get in there and have fun playing how/who you wanted to. This is effectively going to turn that into a draft/ranked-lite mode. And that sucks. Riot, not everyone who plays this game is a teenager with few responsibilities. Some of us have very limited time to play and just like to get on and play who we want when we want to. > > Anymore the only things I do in this game is play Team Builder and ARAM. Now that Team Builder is gone I guess it's ARAM or nothing for me now. Thanks, Riot. Are you listening RIOT? This is your paying customer talking here.. The one with (some) disposable income. The one that buys the skins, etc with RP ($$) not the teenager with no to very limited funds. Utok
: New champ select replaces Team Builder
Wait queue times arguement = busted same or longer for draft mode Still get what you want to play in the position you want = busted bans and having to choose two positions guarantees you wont get it 100% of the time. Results Riot once again screws. News Flash RIOT: NOT EVERYONE CARES ABOUT META, HAVING THE PERFECT COMP. tHEY JUST WANT TO PLAY.. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THE SKINS, CHAMPIONS, ETC.. THESE ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS.
: New champ select replaces Team Builder
: New champ select replaces Team Builder
So far it has taken 2x as long to get into a game as TB did.
: Frankly all you people complaining so much about being forced to play more than 1 role are the problem, and this new select is the solution, so im not surprised there is so much salt here. Multiple positions is a core value of the moba experience and opting out of 80% of it is stupid enough without making everyone's wait times longer or trolling games because you just have to have things your way or the high way.
I just want to have a game more where I can play the champ I want in the position I want. Is that too much to ask. I could care less at times about meta, team comp, etc...
: I think for the average league player that plays a couple of roles and has a decent champion pool, this is an excellent idea. Most games I want to play jungle or mid and those are highly contested roles most of the time. If i go into a queue knowing I will 100% get one of those roles without a toxic waiting time I will be happy. Most of the complaints are stemming from a lack of understanding (which is rampant in the league community holy shit). You can still play the champ you want (MOST LIKELY) in the role you want (MOST LIKELY) and like all things riot does it will be a work in progress and they can tailor it if there are any massive complaints. Too much hate for such a nice idea.
I do not mind the new system (I have played it in PBE). And I understand splitting the pool of players argument. It is just I do nto feel it fits well with the regular player (non-ranked). That just wants to pop in and play a game. Not worry about bans, remember they do not play ranked, so probably does not care or maybe even understand bans completely. TB was perfect for this. Utok
Símbą (NA)
: you are not forced to play 2 roles you can play 1 role and leave, there is a option for that , is simple you wanna climb your rank you have your plan A (role 1) plan B (role 2) you can play a custom game if you wanna learn to play 1 role and 1 champion because ppl who want to climb does not want newbees on his game
So arrogant.. There are a lot of people who could care less about "climbing in rank". They just want to log in and play the champ they want to play where they want to play it. Have some fun.. They care less about bans, team comps, etc.. Its a game for them.. a way to have fun meet people and kill some scuttle crabs.
: you can do everything in the new system you could in TB, but you now can do it better with less waiting. they say you can plan your teams build out, which is true, but they are NOT saying you have to. It will just help knowing what your teammates intend to pick and you can pick accordingly or just do whatever it is that you want to do think of this way. The new system is Normal Draft/Ranked fused with TeamBuilder. and later on if TB fused with Normal Blind. that is what this new queue system will be; The "Love Child" of TB and the current queue systems. I hope this will help you understand it better. if not then just wait for it to come out and see for yourself or go watch some PBE content videos on youtube about the new system or any other way for you to get the information that you seek. And if you still don't like it after it comes out then I don't know. No one is forcing you to play the game. I wish you Good Luck and Lots of Fun for when go out onto the Rift of Summoners and other games as well
TB does not have Bans, it allows you to again play what and where I want to play. Not what I want and were I want if it does not get banned and if no one above me picks it. There is no guarantee that 1st pick will still autolock yi jung. What do you do then, dodge and get the penalty? Leave TB alone!
: New champ select replaces Team Builder
I agree : Leave TB alone. In the original post about the new champ select you never mentioned it replacing TB. Only Normal/Ranked Draft Modes. That is fine. When I play solo 90+% of the time it is TB. I get to choose what and where I want to play. Don't have to worry about silly bans, etc. Yes (sometimes) the wait times are a little long but I DO NOT MIND. There is an old saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it" that applies here. TB is not broke for 80+% of the people who play LOL so don't fix it. Utok
Utok (NA)
: RIOT please stop with the unique champ on the map crud..
My point is in Skarner's case, the objectives in question give no benefit to the enemy team and all the benefit to Skarner's team. So you get 15 gold if you capture a point, whoopee!!! IMO it is throws a global objective onto the map that is centric to 1 and only 1 champ. Has no value overall to the game but can affect the game dramatically. It becomes no longer just a fight over dragon/baron as global objectives but now over those plus 6 others on the map. With again no real advantage for claiming them (enemy team) apart from keeping them from Skarner.
Meddler (NA)
: Initial Juggernaut Thoughts
Riot just stop with the cute 1 champ only changes. Mord with his pet lizard - useless, negates his ult on another player. Skarner with his crystal crap - Now you have to worry about 6 objectives on the map that are of NO NOTHING NADA benefit to your team but unless you monitor them can let skarner roll over you. And whoopee you get a whole 15 gold for a capture... hold on let me get the band out and play a hurray song.. Just stop with the gimmicky changes.. you just sold out Madison Square Garden for 2 days.. DO NOT FIX was is not broken. You get to many one off champ things and you will loose your fan base. Period. Utok
Rioter Comments
: Thank you for screwing up Morde.
yes he is supposed to be an alternate adc. But this patch completely negates him in a solo lane. With his W only good on allies, you go into solo lane with 2 spells vs 3 and even less options to build your shield up. Plus your even slower than you were before (and mord was already slow)
Utok (NA)
: This is why you should be able to dodge in queue and why a 4v5 should be loss prevented.
and RIOT has talked about doing this exact same thing... Loss Prevent on a individual basis based on if someone never connects.
Utok (NA)
: This is why you should be able to dodge in queue and why a 4v5 should be loss prevented.
that was my point if they never connect.. And I program for a living so I know of what I speak
Utok (NA)
: This is why you should be able to dodge in queue and why a 4v5 should be loss prevented.
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Teremina (NA)
: Xin Zhao Q isn't working - on the third basic attack it's supposed to knock enemies up if Im correct
I have seen the same thing. It seems to be the large monsters in the jungle are affected (gromp, blue large golem, large raptot (I think) etc..) His Q will still knockup others.. I am not sure about champs.... I will run some tests tonight to see what is broken and what works and report back.
: RIOT: League is dead...
I don't think it is dead, but ranked has big problems.. I started back playing ranked again after a long pause.. after 3+ years and around 3,000+ games i knew a thing or two. I ward (even if I am not support) and know when to get out when I am low, ping others about drag/ganks,etc.. My first 6-7 games back in rank, each had a afk/lvr. One even had a afk then the adc (cait) decided it is better to sit in fount than to play. Since it was obvious to all that 4v5 we would loose. In actual fact we were holding our own 3v5. He finally got in game only to be so far behind it was worthless. Each of these games I loose points. I do not mind loosing if we have the worse team. But I do mind loosing a 4v5 where we had a chance if it was 5v5.
: why we have 4 v 5s in solo queue.
I have had this happen in 6 of my last 7 games. I loose points ... Can't riot figure out it is a 4v5 I know they can because in bots if it is a 4v5 (afk/DC) only 4 bots will play the game (making it a 4v4). Apply the same to ranked and you now have a way to respond to this.

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