Get2 (NA)
: Those feels when the other team is at your platform in 7 minutes and they have the nerve to say GG after. That is not GG. I didn't find the lobby a challenge at all. lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Get2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZVa2ixkY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-16T05:47:51.659+0000) > > Those feels when the other team is at your platform in 7 minutes and they have the nerve to say GG after. That is not GG. I didn't find the lobby a challenge at all. lol. Wait like summoner rift is gg either
zPity (NA)
: so it's really simple with one huge flaw (aesthetically). person has to be disconnected for a consecutive 90 seconds within the first 3 minutes. However, the flaw is you can't see a person "trying to actively connect" and as a result /remake doesn't activate. so when someone on a shitty connection or pc is "trying to connect to the game for 3-4 minutes or (longer if they have packet loss) remake doesn't activate and you get screwed. solution: require movement out of the fountain and the previous condition. if one of the two conditions are not met, /remake is triggered.
> [{quoted}](name=zPity,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=giebjEY9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-15T13:42:03.641+0000) > > so it's really simple with one huge flaw (aesthetically). person has to be disconnected for a consecutive 90 seconds within the first 3 minutes. However, the flaw is you can't see a person "trying to actively connect" and as a result /remake doesn't activate. so when someone on a shitty connection or pc is "trying to connect to the game for 3-4 minutes or (longer if they have packet loss) remake doesn't activate and you get screwed. > > solution: require movement out of the fountain and the previous condition. if one of the two conditions are not met, /remake is triggered. Woah you telling me they will understand what is "IF Condition " ??? I'm sure they got it but with OR instead of AND
Rioter Comments
: Dark Star Urgot by Slow Damn
When a fan person make better idea than the whole creative team of Riot who punish Urgot lovers with that nightmare whatever ugly skin.
: {{champion:420}} does dash into a tower with her w
> [{quoted}](name=Abibyama II,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEOy7P80,comment-id=000f00010000,timestamp=2019-09-14T10:04:45.713+0000) > > {{champion:420}} does dash into a tower with her w She leap short distance and she can't use it to escape,
: So {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:240}} can all hit towers with their empowered auto or spell but you guys get mad when Fiora can now?
> [{quoted}](name=only luciano,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEOy7P80,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-09-14T00:47:01.478+0000) > > So {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:240}} can all hit towers with their empowered auto or spell but you guys get mad when Fiora can now? They don't dash with it buddy and they can't use it to dash out of fights
: Fiora buffs LMAO
I mean you didn't notice {{champion:421}} buff on tower too ? xDDD
Divin1ty (EUW)
: Revert his W to not last forever and you can buff him. Right now you literally can't, since one small numbers change and he will run rampant Top. Also **all** Toplaners? Bit exeggerating, you mean those that sell Skins and are thicc. Well, only hot, since otherwise my Boi GP would still have 60-80% Armor Pen with no Items. He thicc. :3 {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
> [{quoted}](name=Divin1ty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oGlcPAbp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-13T23:53:20.999+0000) > > Revert his W to not last forever and you can buff him. > Right now you literally can't, since one small numbers change and he will run rampant Top. > > Also **all** Toplaners? > Bit exeggerating, you mean those that sell Skins and are thicc. > Well, only hot, since otherwise my Boi GP would still have 60-80% Armor Pen with no Items. > He thicc. :3 > {{sticker:sg-jinx}} And i don't mind that idea, i didn't like that rework anyway just trading his defensive for dumb offensive all for that sack of the pros that abuse him right the fucking pros that ruining every solo queue and champion for people
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=A Twist of Fate ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ziT6oWGH,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-13T08:37:24.400+0000) > > Seriously, there’s no champ in a worse state compared to mr minion with mana. Teemo and Annie are meant to receive mini reworks too and are getting small buffs so why can’t the same be done for wukong? Yes we need more braindead point and click champs to be meta {{champion:1}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}}
> [{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ziT6oWGH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-13T08:48:27.862+0000) > > Yes we need more braindead point and click champs to be meta {{champion:1}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} Like it matter {{champion:92}} require skills and yet she is broken and going to get more broken, so what
Saezio (EUNE)
: Ok, from what I remember, China Server loves wukong. But at the same time, in his current state if he is allowed to be viable in high elo, he destroys people with no counterplay from mid lane. That's why they can neither rework him nor buff him. I could be wrong, but I remember that conversation like 1-2 years ago or so.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=odoRzEjb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-13T01:05:43.579+0000) > > Ok, from what I remember, China Server loves wukong. But at the same time, in his current state if he is allowed to be viable in high elo, he destroys people with no counterplay from mid lane. That's why they can neither rework him nor buff him. > > I could be wrong, but I remember that conversation like 1-2 years ago or so. Does that mean we should buff that overloaded powerful champions with more AD such as riven, vayne and graves ? Righttt
Rioter Comments
: Why everyone is ragequitting even in ranked now?
As i top laner i understand their rage, you either banned {{champion:266}} and get dived level 6 by {{champion:240}} or {{champion:58}} or {{champion:122}} And if you banned one of them the other will pop up, it the same cycle of broken ass champion that bully you in lane and ruin you, dive you without counter and best part they still scale as you and even better sometimes due to dumb buffs they got along Conquer abuse
RoyHelios (EUW)
: also main wukong (900k), but Hardstucking cause the champ is trash, cant even to carry even i m in 20/1 waiting his rework for almost 10 patch, it s starting to be stupid AF (when you know morde came after 1 patch, pantheon also, kayle also,...) its insane ... just for fun : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1eMfdDnpQM
> [{quoted}](name=RoyHelios,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kKXb2IaT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-10T08:34:52.383+0000) > > also main wukong (900k), but Hardstucking cause the champ is trash, cant event to carry even i m in 20/1 > waiting his rework for almost 10 patch, it s starting to be stupid AF (when you know morde came after 1 patch, pantheon also, kayle also,...) > its insane ... > > just for fun : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1eMfdDnpQM He just at the point of being dead and if he didn't have some sort of mobility he would be gone in trash like in ages ago. It just how dumb how {{champion:13}} get his rework who got like 1 month from wukong announcement rework.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: first of all, thx for the respond. But, isnt it possible to just launch the rework on live servers and to add the visual updates later on?
> [{quoted}](name=KingKongLoL YT,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ME2TcV99,comment-id=0001000000000004,timestamp=2019-09-07T10:49:34.586+0000) > > first of all, thx for the respond. But, isnt it possible to just launch the rework on live servers and to add the visual updates later on? I mean even he looked decent on pbe and he was just what we wanted, but nah we got to leave him in this garbage status. I would rather see him in good status over good visual look
: Gave up on my boy Aatrox since they dont know how to keep him fine in soloqueue, and decided to be a backseat boy and pick Swain/Shen. Dudes have the ability to counterpick Swain, they do it, and just can't win despite it. Im not playing to win lane and I win almost every match (on my secondary, which just surpassed my main despite being stuck in a 49% winrate hellhole in plat for months), which is disgusting to think of (it means I legit dont have to do a damn thing to win the game but not die)
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-07T03:17:07.831+0000) > > Gave up on my boy Aatrox since they dont know how to keep him fine in soloqueue, and decided to be a backseat boy and pick Swain/Shen. Dudes have the ability to counterpick Swain, they do it, and just can't win despite it. Im not playing to win lane and I win almost every match (on my secondary, which just surpassed my main despite being stuck in a 49% winrate hellhole in plat for months), which is disgusting to think of (it means I legit dont have to do a damn thing to win the game but not die) That is another thing, it doesn't matter what you do as top laner unless you have like 3 kills lead and 3 plats eaten from enemy tower otherwise game is decide by other factors what is worst that is top lane is 1v1 to death by the champion who counter other or is more toxic
: > [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-09-07T02:37:45.666+0000) > > And it not good thing to have what consider late game champion are powerful in lane neither is good having cancer to deal with but it just get worst at top laner cause the island effect and the smarter jungle thing I mean. Early game picks don’t fall off anymore either. Renekton, talon, draven, they all scale just as hard as any hyper carry does and they are made to be strong early.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-09-07T05:13:38.958+0000) > > I mean. Early game picks don’t fall off anymore either. > Renekton, talon, draven, they all scale just as hard as any hyper carry does and they are made to be strong early. and that what i'm talking about, like wtf we should do as players against that
: That’s every role. Never had an adc ever say “man I’m sure glad the enemy picked {{champion:119}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:21}} “ Never heard a mid say “oh wow I’m going to enjoy playing against {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:84}} “
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-07T02:22:16.442+0000) > > That’s every role. > > Never had an adc ever say “man I’m sure glad the enemy picked {{champion:119}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:21}} “ > > Never heard a mid say “oh wow I’m going to enjoy playing against {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:84}} “ And it not good thing to have what consider late game champion are powerful in lane neither is good having cancer to deal with but it just get worst at top laner cause the island effect and the smarter jungle thing
Meddler (NA)
: Preseason stuff is the limiter on this one. Once some assets for that are finished we'll be able to get some folks back onto this and another smaller rework that's also currently on hold.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ME2TcV99,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-06T23:00:28.587+0000) > > Preseason stuff is the limiter on this one. Once some assets for that are finished we'll be able to get some folks back onto this and another smaller rework that's also currently on hold. I mean it taking forever and he is in gutter status, even you said the rework was successful and many liked it so it was our only hope for last months and now we wait for how long which us unknown :/
: ez solution griv, poppy, heimer thats what i have issue with when u play renek and they scale better than you only if they get fed thats why they are lane bully aatrox i agree is cancer late game but early hes soo weak try closing games early and akali hate to admit it she kind broken (if played well) they both deserve a nerf which both aatrox and akali are gettin and also itemize against them should help you in lane.
> [{quoted}](name=MightyGedoman,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-06T22:06:26.069+0000) > > ez solution griv, poppy, heimer thats what i have issue with when u play renek and they scale better than you only if they get fed thats why they are lane bully aatrox i agree is cancer late game but early hes soo weak try closing games early and akali hate to admit it she kind broken (if played well) they both deserve a nerf which both aatrox and akali are gettin and also itemize against them should help you in lane. Hope they gutted not just nerfed
Keiaga (NA)
: Have you considered the fact that those champs aren't too amazing and you're most likely both bad at the game, and also playing a weak champ?
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OVXxeET2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-06T21:45:27.582+0000) > > Have you considered the fact that those champs aren't too amazing and you're most likely both bad at the game, and also playing a weak champ? Never said they amazing, i said they cancer toxic
: graves once got a -3 base AD nerf and it dropped his winrate by 2%
> [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eNEaMyLi,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-09-06T18:38:09.942+0000) > > graves once got a -3 base AD nerf and it dropped his winrate by 2% You said it "base" AD xD
Rioter Comments
: You can basically guarantee now that the rework won't come until after Worlds for uhh, self explanatory reasons
> [{quoted}](name=mosaickle,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ME2TcV99,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-06T15:51:47.129+0000) > > You can basically guarantee now that the rework won't come until after Worlds for uhh, self explanatory reasons Or never cause artist busy with dumb game mode call TFT
: Riot has a minor rework ready in concept which was met with positive feedback, but it will be a while until it get's released. They need artist time to create it and those are currently busy with other stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ME2TcV99,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-06T14:35:55.947+0000) > > Riot has a minor rework ready in concept which was met with positive feedback, but it will be a while until it get's released. They need artist time to create it and those are currently busy with other stuff. Tft stuff*
: Wait Vayne's getting buffed now too? Where did you hear this? Because I'd like to stop banning her in every game I play.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aXmMEEUz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T01:24:22.674+0000) > > Wait Vayne's getting buffed now too? Where did you hear this? Because I'd like to stop banning her in every game I play. Under the part where her said " Riven and Even got overnerfed " There another twitter where he said vayne, mf and other going to get buff
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JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Yeah, i seriously agree. Instead of nerfing the problem, they nerfed the jungle. Hey how about instead of nerfing all the broken champs on top lane, just reduce exp gain from top lane, problem solved !
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EI6mdozr,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-08-27T19:58:38.300+0000) > > Yeah, i seriously agree. > > Instead of nerfing the problem, they nerfed the jungle. > > Hey how about instead of nerfing all the broken champs on top lane, just reduce exp gain from top lane, problem solved ! I not even that, it just why you nerfed exp ? Right cause the dumb shit that spammed in the middle of river. And why there was level cheese 2 ? Right cause camps is too easy for early cheesing champion to kill and shit on
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Jungle in season 9.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EI6mdozr,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-26T14:55:32.037+0000) > > It is actually more worth while to play a jungler that ganks level 2 after redbuff > and then ganks again, and again and again and again and again > than play a jungler who needs to power farm > to 6 to not be a complete liability on the entire team. > Why? > ##Because jungle exp is just fucking absurdly low. > junglers are BY FAR much better off leeching exp from the lanes instead of powerfarming the jungle because > lanes bring a fuckton more exp than the jungle. > So, just take exp from the lane and woop.... you're 2 levels over the jungler that has had trouble being relevant before 6. > > What riot did was try to nerf early ganks with all the nerfs, but what they don't understand is that they did the exact opposite. > it is more CRUCIAL THAN EVER to get that level 2 cheese gank and follow up on it with the 2 scuttlers > because otherwise you fall off so fast you might as well afk > at the fountain because you are going to be 2 levels below everyone the entire rest of the game. > > And then you ask yourself why no one wants to play jungle any more. All they had to do was kill the dumb {{champion:59}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:64}} etc early level 2 cheese, but you know what we buff them instead cause we got no balance shit in our mind
: i don't think you realized that most ranged champs are squishy and do less damage than melee champs per hit so all yous gotta do is jump on them and you win the 1v1. There are only a few exceptions where ranged champs can deal as much damage as melee and thats urgot and graves. But at least graves is squishier than urgot. Urgot is just broken.
> [{quoted}](name=overpoweredscrub,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eRZT3B90,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-26T22:37:27.124+0000) > > i don't think you realized that most ranged champs are squishy and do less damage than melee champs per hit so all yous gotta do is jump on them and you win the 1v1. There are only a few exceptions where ranged champs can deal as much damage as melee and thats urgot and graves. But at least graves is squishier than urgot. Urgot is just broken. Urgot fight anyone in melee range and squishy ? i don't think someone that able to build cleavry or trinity is squishy, special when they have dash or cc
: So... make them be unviable everywhere? Because you cannot handle playing against them? Melee champions already have higher MS than ranged ones and better base stats. Maybe actually learn to deal with them instead of whining about them.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eRZT3B90,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-26T22:29:31.893+0000) > > So... make them be unviable everywhere? Because you cannot handle playing against them? Melee champions already have higher MS than ranged ones and better base stats. Maybe actually learn to deal with them instead of whining about them. They nerfed their damage or their agenda of cc or dash.
Divin1ty (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eRZT3B90,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-26T22:29:31.893+0000) > > So... make them be unviable everywhere? Because you cannot handle playing against them? Melee champions already have higher MS than ranged ones and better base stats. Maybe actually learn to deal with them instead of whining about them. No one has problems winning games against them, they just turn Top into a shithole and unfun for one side because they had to pick first.
> [{quoted}](name=Divin1ty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eRZT3B90,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-26T22:31:37.447+0000) > > No one has problems winning games against them, they just turn Top into a shithole and unfun for one side because they had to pick first. ^
Rioter Comments
: bc shes a lategame scaling adc and a lot of low elo games (Gold and below) dont know how to play much against her. Oh yeah she also doesnt have invis, stupid mechanics, and get this, she is very easy to kill for assassins and very easy to shutdown early game.
> [{quoted}](name=GodlyBane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2019-08-25T04:17:31.186+0000) > > bc shes a lategame scaling adc and a lot of low elo games (Gold and below) dont know how to play much against her. Oh yeah she also doesnt have invis, stupid mechanics, and get this, she is very easy to kill for assassins and very easy to shutdown early game. Yet doesn't explain her over spiked pickrate and winrate in high elo but okey.
: Ranked flex is a joke tho
> [{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tEEPNQnM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-25T00:38:04.509+0000) > > Ranked flex is a joke tho So guess you can troll it, got you
: > [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=taUi4d96,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:53:23.029+0000) > > that is annie though not yordle xD Yeah exactly, so she doesn't fit. We need a red haired Yordle to replace her
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=taUi4d96,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:54:01.585+0000) > > Yeah exactly, so she doesn't fit. We need a red haired Yordle to replace her Nooo leave her alone, she is cute with them
Rioter Comments
: So what you are saying is we need a red haired Yordle, then these skins to be made.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=taUi4d96,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:46:52.526+0000) > > So what you are saying is we need a red haired Yordle, then these skins to be made. that is annie though not yordle xD
ARC RAZIEL (EUNE)
: Riot ? 50+ ping increse
> [{quoted}](name=ARC RAZIEL,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E2ZvtEAh,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-24T15:33:44.335+0000) > > I used to play on 135ms on NA, now its ~190 ? why ? > i used to have 32 ms on Eune season 3,4,5.. cant tell from when but its incresed to 40+ ms, right now with this " bug" its ~60ms , why ? > Riot we want answers. I guess it common problem for everyone, we all on like 50 base increase on our normal ping
: Downvoted by a Jinx main who is currently abusing her winrate :3 {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
> [{quoted}](name=Dora drugs Diego,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:01:36.743+0000) > > Downvoted by a Jinx main who is currently abusing her winrate :3 {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Atleast you admit it xD
SiG DxD (EUNE)
: so is {{champion:145}} but too many skins to be nerfed i guess
> [{quoted}](name=SiG DxD,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-08-24T20:13:32.803+0000) > > so is {{champion:145}} but too many skins to be nerfed i guess She after her in number of picks and winrate, so if jinx got nerfed she will be top so i agree
Ackelope (NA)
: if you'll notice her banrate is pretty low, most people playing don't perceive her as a large problem or simply don't mind playing against her that much. That's probably the actual reason she hasn't been nerfed or considered for nerfs yet, riot takes banrate into consideration and as far as I can tell it matters about as much as winrate when it comes to actually executing on balance changes.
> [{quoted}](name=Ackelope,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-08-24T18:49:16.532+0000) > > if you'll notice her banrate is pretty low, most people playing don't perceive her as a large problem or simply don't mind playing against her that much. That's probably the actual reason she hasn't been nerfed or considered for nerfs yet, riot takes banrate into consideration and as far as I can tell it matters about as much as winrate when it comes to actually executing on balance changes. I mean people notice that right now slowly, it just no one notice her cause vayne and ezreal was more toxic
: My initial comment was a joke, but yes. 12.5% would be the ideal number, in a perfectly balanced world. However, the point I was making is that it's not like she went from Kog'Maw's 1.1% to 20% out of nowhere. People have been playing her for months.
> [{quoted}](name=ArtumisPrime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=000e0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T17:28:35.762+0000) > > My initial comment was a joke, but yes. 12.5% would be the ideal number, in a perfectly balanced world. However, the point I was making is that it's not like she went from Kog'Maw's 1.1% to 20% out of nowhere. People have been playing her for months. True true, it even prove that she was hidden op as people said but we didn't notice cause vayne and ezreal was more cancer
: She is that strong for four months or even more. If she is not getting pick/ban in pro or getting more than 54,5% winrate, she won't get touched. And she is popular, too. Maybe that's why.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Politur grime,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-08-24T16:29:25.903+0000) > > She is that strong for four months or even more. If she is not getting pick/ban in pro or getting more than 54,5% winrate, she won't get touched. > > And she is popular, too. Maybe that's why.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I mean facts, popular and girl champion that mostly get you ticket to free elo of op dumb shit champions
: Not directed at the OP but it makes me salty that I honestly saw threads wanting to nerf Tristana before I saw threads wanting to address the fact that Jinx has been the best ADC for nearly the entire season. She's freelo. It doesn't even matter if you lose lane as Jinx or if you're not even good at her as a champion. Just turn your brain off, wait until level 9 and until you have Runaan's and then AoE rocket crit people from 700 range. Yes, you heard me. 700 range. That's higher Tristana's at level 18. She gets it twice as fast as Tristana and benefits from a better mid to late game for it. Why is Tristana in pro play in a solo lane and doing meh to bad in solo lanes for soloqueue suddenly the call from god to nerf her... but Jinx has been dominating bot lane and games for nearly the entirety of the season but everyone just shrugs? Seriously, something needs to be toned back on Jinx because her long range and ability to AoE crit your entire team is exceptionally problematic. Why is she allowed this kind of interaction but for Caitlyn, it was the first thing to go? And Caitlyn didn't even have *higher than a 50% WR when they utterly neutered her for a season and a half.* Get rid of the Runaan's interaction or greatly reduce the damage that her rockets can do. Because as it stands, the only weakness Jinx has is being immobile and that's even negated by having a huge fuck off range and a reset that gives her huge amounts of MS and AS.
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-08-24T16:31:56.615+0000) > > Not directed at the OP but it makes me salty that I honestly saw threads wanting to nerf Tristana before I saw threads wanting to address the fact that Jinx has been the best ADC for nearly the entire season. She's freelo. It doesn't even matter if you lose lane as Jinx or if you're not even good at her as a champion. Just turn your brain off, wait until level 9 and until you have Runaan's and then AoE rocket crit people from 700 range. Yes, you heard me. 700 range. That's higher Tristana's at level 18. She gets it twice as fast as Tristana and benefits from a better mid to late game for it. > > Why is Tristana in pro play in a solo lane and doing meh to bad in solo lanes for soloqueue suddenly the call from god to nerf her... but Jinx has been dominating bot lane and games for nearly the entirety of the season but everyone just shrugs? > > Seriously, something needs to be toned back on Jinx because her long range and ability to AoE crit your entire team is exceptionally problematic. Why is she allowed this kind of interaction but for Caitlyn, it was the first thing to go? And Caitlyn didn't even have *higher than a 50% WR when they utterly neutered her for a season and a half.* > > Get rid of the Runaan's interaction or greatly reduce the damage that her rockets can do. Because as it stands, the only weakness Jinx has is being immobile and that's even negated by having a huge fuck off range and a reset that gives her huge amounts of MS and AS. All they have to do to make her decent one more without being op, just removed the dumb crit shit they added on her rocket. I was from the people who was against that dumb idea of giving jinx among all adc free crit on her long range high damage and aoe rockets that was dumb honestly.
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: You know, it makes sense, but scenarios on the boards like these always felt strange to me. A champion could go completely unnoticed for a few patches, other things having people's focus. But then slowly people begin to see their numbers, not even feeling oppressed by them in game, and call for nerfs. Not that it doesnt make sense, its just interesting.
> [{quoted}](name=Eggbread,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-08-24T09:06:07.242+0000) > > You know, it makes sense, but scenarios on the boards like these always felt strange to me. A champion could go completely unnoticed for a few patches, other things having people's focus. But then slowly people begin to see their numbers, not even feeling oppressed by them in game, and call for nerfs. Not that it doesnt make sense, its just interesting. {{champion:6}} before all of his nerfs and pro play wasn't unnoticeable after it and woah everything went hell for him going top then getting nerfed then getting reworked like within months
: She's had a 14% or higher pickrate in Plat+ since 9.12...maybe even before that, as u.gg doesn't let me check earlier.
> [{quoted}](name=ArtumisPrime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gdxOo3t4,comment-id=000e00000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T10:04:32.774+0000) > > She's had a 14% or higher pickrate in Plat+ since 9.12...maybe even before that, as u.gg doesn't let me check earlier. I think 14% pickrate is decent for adc special if they having around 53% winrate
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