rujitra (NA)
: That doesn't mean more do not exist - stop trying to claim they don't, because from your own admission you have had multiple prior punishments prior to this permanent suspension, each of which has multiple games of toxicity associated with it.
Read my other comments. One of my punishments was from 2015~ and yet it was still counted, otherwise I would not have immediately gotten a 24 game chat restriction when I started playing again recently. As for "multiple games of toxicity", only the permaban has two games associated while the 2 week ban has only one. What do you mean?
rujitra (NA)
: You used the word once. Normal people wouldn't have even **considered** using the word **ever** - much less once. Plus, the rest of the toxicity in your logs. If you are suffering from mental illness, I am sorry, but it is not Riot's nor the world's responsibility to modify the rules for you, especially when doing so would harm a community/society. If you don't, I'm not sure why you brought this up. If you have a lack of self control, again, that's not Riot's problem. Do I get angry when I lose a match? Hell yeah. I had a game that I was 1v3/4ing the enemy at their inhib as an 19/4 Illaoi, and if literally any of my team had been there game was over. But do I flame, harass others, abuse them, or use hate speech? Nope. It's called self control. People slip up. A slip up is by definition a rare occurrence. You have slipped up in very likely **dozens** if not hundreds of games. That is no longer a slip up. It is a pattern of abuse.
So much assuming, not even worth responding to anymore. You're beyond biased.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=00010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-27T20:20:47.260+0000)This is all I'm saying. Riot made the wrong call. Based on what I've seen in your logs, I must disagree. This is not behavior I'd consider acceptable after a final warning. >I never get a popup for "someone you reported got punished" around these times, even despite my mutual report of the people who reported me. The pop-ups are not reliable, and have not been for a few years now. One of my big frustrations with the system, as it leads people to believe reporting doesn't work.
You only saw two logs. That's all I'm gonna say.
rujitra (NA)
: That is not your call to make, and to be honest, I feel you should remember some things: >But I think that no matter how smart, people usually see what they're already looking for, that's all. - *from Allegiant, by Veronica Ross*. You're not looking for toxicity while you're playing the game. Thus you forget how many times you slipped up and used hate speech (things like "autistic" and "r%%%%%ed" in the way you use them) or flame someone for their performance. >People put a lot less effort into picking apart evidence that confirms what they already believe. - *Peter Watts* Even if you *do* remember some *recent* games, you are not able to see your toxicity in them - because it does not fit your belief that you are not frequently or severely toxic. That is why you came to the boards, no? To try and understand why you may be wrong? Or did you just come to the boards to try and see if you're right and fuel your confirmation bias?
You're trying to tell me _you're_ not biased? Everyone in this thread is biased solely because you all sit here and see similar threads with worse words, worse players saying horrible things. You blend them with me, you just assume I'm just like the rest because of one singular comment I made whereas others do it numerous times. Again, I'm going to say this; I own my mistakes. I understand what parts of what I said were okay and what parts were not okay. I do **not** have a confirmation bias. I came here for other opinions and that is all.
rujitra (NA)
: No, the core of why you're banned is likely your misuse of the word "autistic'. Like seriously, what if I made a mistake and said "lol guess i'm ". You'd say that's unacceptable, right, as it implies that that race is lesser, mistake-prone, etc? It's no different with that word - you are abusing it and honestly it's not just potentially offensive but it shows that you are biased (and in some states such a statement could be used in a discrimination case against you). Oh yeah, and what's this "potentially" offensive crap? Making fun of people with illness that is no fault of their own **SHOULD** offend everyone - it's not a compatible attitude with normal productive society.
Except, and here's the isolated word again, **that** is an isolated incident. I only used the autistic word **_ONCE_** and I'm clearly a terrible god damn person. People get angry. People have mental illnesses. People don't _all think the same way_. You have slipped up and said things you don't mean before. A lot of people have. I said it once. ONCE. I said r%%%%%, ONCE. ONCE. Everything else hardly involved any insults whatsoever.
Eedat (NA)
: No, you're just lying. Lets take a look at your match history. You were playing ***every single day for at least a month*** (not checking further back than that) and then there was an _**exact**_ 14 day gap in playing from April 22nd to May 6th. This was your 14 day ban 100%. Then a few weeks after that you continue. So no, your punishments were not from years ago.
One or two was. Read, thanks. The first chat restriction, I know was.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=000100000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-27T20:14:12.938+0000)No. I don't slip up with any frequency worth a permanent ban, I can tell you that much. The fact that a permanent ban was applied to your account makes me question this. I understand you have one perspective, but ultimately Riot gets to make the call here, and it clearly happens often enough that it happened in two games after your final warning that your behavior was not okay. > I really do approve, though, of how every time I bring this up no one takes into consideration the people provoking me. They likely go unpunished, but because I decided to respond to them for baiting me, I get punished, they don't. Because we're talking about your behavior. If you're being provoked then certainly the other players should face appropriate punishments, but their actions do *not* mitigate the choices you've made in how to respond.
This is all I'm saying. Riot made the wrong call. Riot is looking at my chat logs, but they're not looking at the dates. They're not looking at the replays. They're just firing without extensive thought behind it. They're also not looking at the other people and what they're saying, and that much has been made clear to me. I never get a popup for "someone you reported got punished" around these times, even despite my mutual report of the people who reported me.
rujitra (NA)
: >Viridia: what you think i am >Viridia: autistic? So, you're insulting people with autism for having a disease they're born with and can't change? Wow, hate speech much? For the email thing, once you go through account recovery, you will regain access to the account tickets and other support actions. And lastly, yes, it is a pattern. It is not once in a blue moon. You may think so, but Riot has determined it's not. Keep in mind that they are not going to spend 10 hours going through all your chat logs to identify toxicity in all of them. There used to be a Rioter who would come to the boards and do so in his free work time, but I believe he has likely not had time to do so recently. I think you'd be surprised with just how toxic you are in games - even if that toxicity wasn't enough to get punished in other games.
Are you serious? Are you actually serious right now? I can't call myself something that is clearly a differ-from-the-norm in human behavior because it's _potentially_ offensive. This is your problem. You all take what I say and assume it's in the worst context. You assume I'm doing it out of spite, I'm a hateful person, I go out in public and say the same things; I don't. You don't know me. You know my username, what words I use and that's it. You can keep saying it's a pattern. You can keep upholding the holy law of Riot and how they're always right and they do absolutely nothing wrong ever; at the end of the day, this is an unfair ban to anyone with a shred of thick skin. You really cannot say anything these days without someone getting offended. This is the core of why I am banned.
rujitra (NA)
: League is a competitive game in that you win or lose. League is **not** a competitive "high stakes" environment such as a tournament/competitive play - unless you are participating in a League tournament on a amateur or professional team. Ranked is simply a game mode that has a ranking ladder. It is not a "tryhard" mode, it is not some mode where it is acceptable to flame others. Plus, try saying the shit you said while you're on a professional sports team or even an amateur basketball team at your local gym - see how fast you get kicked out of the gym/team. By the way, I encourage you to look up overwatch and other competitive games - they ban for the type of toxicity you display quite frequently. In fact, [multiple game companies are working together to get people like you who refuse to behave appropriately out of gaming](https://www.pcgamer.com/major-game-companies-are-teaming-up-to-combat-toxicity-in-gaming/). Lastly, there are dozens of lines in your logs that are also unacceptable. The Djinn only pulled the **MOST** severe lines - that does not mean everything else "isn't very toxic".
>frequently Not responding to anything but this; not frequent.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-27T20:05:18.454+0000) I don't understand what the hell you mean by this. Just because League is a MOBA with champions, a 5v5 team game, etcetera, doesn't make it any less of what it is at it's core; a competitive game. Other competitive games [Overwatch, DOTA 2, Battlefield even] would not ban for such small amounts of toxicity. I don't see your point. My point is that Riot is allowed to make their own rules for *League*, and there is nothing saying *League* has to follow the rules of other games. For example, I was a competitive fencer for over a decade, and I had friends who were competitive rugby players. The sort of behavior that was allowed on the fencing strip was *very* different from what you could get away with in a rugby match, even though both are fiercely competitive sports. Just because something is acceptable in one place does *not* make it acceptable everywhere. > Exactly. You pulled the worst lines - only eight lines that I truly could see being severely toxic. Outside of that, I wasn't very toxic. I slip up a few times, and guess what? I'm the worst person! Better ban me. You clearly slip up with enough severity + frequency to have gotten to your final warning. The thing about a final warning is that it means "this needs to *stop* and *not happen again*." If it happens again (and it did), then you're out, because the warnings clearly are not causing the desired change in behavior.
> It was a permanent ban because you had a 14 day ban recently. That 14 day ban told you that if you misbehaved again, you'd be permanently banned. You didn't heed the warning and improve your behavior. Thus, Riot upheld their promise. No. I don't slip up with any frequency worth a permanent ban, I can tell you that much. To put into perspective, maybe.. 20-30 games in between, and that's just a general idea. It is really not that often. I really do approve, though, of how every time I bring this up no one takes into consideration the people provoking me. They likely go unpunished, but because I decided to respond to them for baiting me, I get punished, they don't.
rujitra (NA)
: I was attempting to provide all reasons I know that Support may clear tickets. I did not see the image at first. I edited in an explanation, which I will copy here: >Your tickets were hidden from your view because when you say "I want to change the email" through support, it makes it seem like you do not have access to your account's old email - you must then proceed to prove you are the owner of the account before being given access to it back - including old support tickets. You attempted to change the email through support - instead of using the webpage and accessing your old email. This is suspicious activity that normal accounts do not have. Thus, Riot will not permit you to access other tickets until you prove you are the account's owner and do aco%%%% recovery. This is not isolated incidents. You had a 14 day ban. You likely had chat restrictions. This is a pattern - as evidenced by the fact this is two different games on two different dates. Players flame, sure - but it's once in a blue moon, maybe two games right after another if they're tilted. You are flaming consistently across dates and across games. And this is not *moderate*. You called your teammates "r%%%%%ed", and "autistic", multiple times. By your own definition, that's a high level of toxicity in that one game.
I called *myself* autistic. The only thing i ever called my teammates was r%%%%%ed, and it wasn't more than twice. As for the rest of the email stuff, I had to change it that way. I don't remember why, but something on my end was messed up so I had to make a ticket. Again, this isn't a pattern. One of my chat restrictions was from years ago, yet it was counted. It's not consistent. I don't do it every game. I do it every once in a blue moon, as you stated. You don't see my entire chat logs, every single one, and until you do, I'm not moving from my point. It's not consistent.
rujitra (NA)
: They said nothing about Riot's access to replays. It does not matter. Riot, and support, can access and view replays from both current and prior patches. They simply don't do it. It was a permanent ban because you had a 14 day ban recently. That 14 day ban told you that if you misbehaved again, you'd be permanently banned. You didn't heed the warning and improve your behavior. Thus, Riot upheld their promise.
I'm done responded to the toxic member, but as for you; his point was that I said I gave up. Just because I said something doesn't mean I actually did it. If anyone looked at the chat log and the replay at the same time, they'd see I didn't give up in actuality. > It was a permanent ban because you had a 14 day ban recently. That 14 day ban told you that if you misbehaved again, you'd be permanently banned. You didn't heed the warning and improve your behavior. Thus, Riot upheld their promise. Actually, it would've been a permanent ban regardless of whether or not this incident happened yesterday or in 2022. Seeing as they pulled up a chat restriction I got in like, 2014..
Eedat (NA)
: But you DO do this on a consistent basis. You got 2 chat restrictions and a 14 day ban then kept going
You need to take into consideration how little of my game's chat logs you're actually seeing. The two chat restrictions I got - one or two of which, can't remember- were actually from years ago when I first started playing the game. It's not consistent. Use a dictionary.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-27T19:55:58.693+0000)It isn't worth a permanent ban. That is an opinion you are entitled to, yes. It's one I happen to disagree with if you've had a prior 14-day ban as a warning your behavior needs to improve. >Do you understand what people in other games get banned permanently for? League is not other games. What is applicable there is not necessarily applicable here. >Do you see how there are only 8 lines you pulled? To quote myself: "I actually pulled just the worst lines, as much of the chat log is insulting or abusive."
> > League is not other games. What is applicable there is not necessarily applicable here. I don't understand what the hell you mean by this. Just because League is a MOBA with champions, a 5v5 team game, etcetera, doesn't make it any less of what it is at it's core; a competitive game. Other competitive games (Overwatch, DOTA 2, Battlefield even) would not ban for such small amounts of toxicity. I don't see your point. > To quote myself: "I actually pulled just the worst lines, as much of the chat log is insulting or abusive." Exactly. You pulled the worst lines - only eight lines that I truly could see being severely toxic. Outside of that, I wasn't very toxic. I slip up a few times, and guess what? I'm the worst person! Better ban me.
rujitra (NA)
: So, just because it's what you'd consider "middle school banter" doesn't make it acceptable in League of Legends. What you (and/or others) in middle school said/say does not equate to how to be a decent human being in public. In fact, teenagers are known for their wildly offensive and abusive use of the human language - in the means of being "edgy" and shit, so no, "middle school banter" does not matter. Yes, if you continue to abuse support tickets by repeatedly submitting new ones/arguing, they may block you from contacting support. I am not sure what you thought would happen. If you sit in a McDonalds continuing to scream at the manager after getting your final answer, they'll kick you out and tell you not to come back. It seems that very likely you must have given information (or they investigated your account) that told them that your account was shared/sold/bought/etc. When an account has been deemed to be compromised, meaning accessed by more than one human being *at any time, for any reason*, the support tickets will be **hidden**, not wiped, until the account is recovered. **Alternatively**, you may have revealed private information or attempted to threaten legal action, at which point Support is unable to assist you. This is not "moderate" levels of toxicity. Most players never even get a single chat restriction, much less flame **this much**. You were an asshole. You didn't heed your warnings. That's not Riot's fault. **** Edit - I didn't see the image the first time I opened this post, sorry: Your tickets were hidden from your view because when you say "I want to change the email" through support, it makes it seem like you do not have access to your account's old email - you must then proceed to prove you are the owner of the account before being given access to it back - including old support tickets.
You're assuming a great lot of things. I didn't *spam* support tickets. I made one, a person responded, and I responded back and I'm guessing he didn't like my response so he cleared my tickets all save for one insignificant email-change ticket. I never said anything about sharing my account in any of the tickets, I admitted to *ALL* of what I did but I argued, at the same time, that I felt the punishment was misplaced, or too drastic. "Flame this much" This, I really like this. You see two isolated incidents from two different games on two different dates and you suddenly get the idea that I'm a toxic asshole who spams my teammates with insults every single game. No. These are what I said they are - isolated incidents. Asshole or not an asshole, it is Riot's fault for having too-harsh punishments for, and I stick to my story, **moderate** levels of toxicity. You want high levels of toxicity? How about if someone went in game and called everyone on their team f'ing dumb, r%%%%%ed, terrible at the game every single game. THAT'S not moderate toxicity.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-27T19:53:43.581+0000) > > Giving up? You didn't see the replay, friend. I didn't *actually* give up. I kept playing the game for most of those times. Just because something is said doesn't make it actuality. > In chat. You know, the reason you got banned for, lol. > ..Removed by Moderation.. What, telling you what you did wrong after you made your case public? You are a bit of a hypocrit, telling people ingame what they did wrong and how shitty they are, but not accepting people to tell you what you did wrong.
So you think Riot doesn't have access to replays? Gotcha. Makes a lot of sense for the developers to not be able to access individual replays. As for the rest of what you said, no - I can understand what I did wrong. I *know* what I did was wrong, I understand that being toxic is bad but what I do *NOT* understand is how this warrants a **PERMANENT** ban. I can own my flaws. I can own my mistakes. But I can't own unfair punishment.
: > [{quoted}](name=Viridia,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mgv2bbER,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-27T19:49:52.180+0000)Viridia: get a life > Viridia: how was i supposed to know r%%%%% > Viridia: leave it to a lux main to be annoying > Viridia: autistic? > Viridia: you're just blind > Viridia: ignorant > Viridia: and sucking jarvans dick I actually pulled just the *worst* lines, as much of the chat log is insulting or abusive. These lines *alone* would be sufficient to merit a punishment, and if you had a 14-day ban they'd get you perma-banned reliably. The rules are pretty clear that insulting other players isn't okay. You may consider it "middle-school banter," but it is *also* still very much against the rules.
It isn't worth a permanent ban. Do you understand what people in other games get banned permanently for? Cheating. Saying the N word. Being sexist. CONSISTENTLY. Do you see how there are only 8 lines you pulled? That isn't consistent. That isn't on a regular basis. Forgive me for getting tilted once and losing my patience on people provoking me.
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