SurgicalStriker
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
There was a lot more depth, interesting gameplay and just potential in general for DOTA. Autochess games don't have that. They will "succeed," though, because there's so much potential for microtransactions in the genre. It'll "succeed" because it will be pushed hard publishers, not because of anything particularly compelling about the genre itself.
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Pika Fox
(NA)
The way it works right now, Riot could make up a new rule, inform no one outside of Riot, then start enforcing it without telling anyone why they were banned, and you'd have no recourse. That would be a pretty shitty business practice, and if it were discovered they did that they'd probably lose a lot of players, but they could legally do it.
There really needs to be regulation in regards to player moderation in video games (and far more in the tech industry in general, particularly social media, but that's a different conversation). Unfortunately, there's not much of a lobby for consumer protection when it comes to video games, so it's unlikely that will come to pass. For now and for the foreseeable future, you have no recourse when you're banned in League (or any video game) no matter the reason.
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Luther King Jr V
(EUW)
Not sure what you're talking about here, I've been banned quite a few times on boards. Though, those were all at least 2-3 years ago or more, and I've only had 3 posts deleted in the past 2 years with no bans for any of them, so maybe they've gotten more harsh since then.
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Nik Nikerson
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
Please tell me how I can influence item RNG other than selecting from the carousel (which is also heavily RNG influenced in what appears and what the position of the items are relative to you when it's your turn to pick).
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minorjack
(EUW)
Vreivai
(NA)
Welcome to the problem I've had for years while Riot keeps denying that it exists.
I lose well over 50% of my games, and yet my MMR still doesn't drop from high silver. At all. Doesn't even budge. And every time I ask support about it, all they say is "we're not allowed to alter your MMR, just keep playing." Holy shit, I never thought of that! Just keep playing! Well maybe if that worked I wouldn't be contacting you fucks in the first place.
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Nik Nikerson
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
It's just that it's a joke that Riot is trying to pretend this is going to be a competitive game mode, implement a ranked system, etc., when luck plays such a large factor in determining the outcome of a match that skill is negligible.
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BigFBear
(EUW)
Even with that getting all of those items in one game is still pretty rare.
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BigFBear
(EUW)
Good luck getting 1x rageblade and 2x spear of shojin more than once every 10 games
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Parakeeni
(NA)
-TFT
-"competitive"
lol
Let's have competitive coin flipping, too
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Jennifer420
(EUW)
I'd avoid saying stuff like that. The algorithm is likely exactly the same in TFT as in SR, and that would be judged as justifying a chat restriction in SR. That said, you're probably far less likely to get reported for saying that, since you wouldn't be directing it at a player. Though there are still going to be the people that are just looking for things to report because they want to get people punished.
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Ctrl Alt Xerath
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
Nope, don't spend much on xp. And I am telling the truth. I suppose it could be that, rather than you being extremely lucky, I've been extremely unlucky.
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Ctrl Alt Xerath
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
That's nice, lucky you.
I've never seen a level 3 before round 6-1 despite going for ones others aren't.
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Frost Ace
(NA)
Yes they are as random as he thinks. I've had one game where I was one of the last two. First fight, I lose. Next fight, neither of us change anything. I win. And neither were even close.
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Ctrl Alt Xerath
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
If you almost have a 3 star by 3-2 every time, you're extraordinarily lucky
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rubberduckie666
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
It doesn't even show you something as basic as your level
Game mode is rushed garbage
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Utok
(NA)
That second one is probably the dumbest. I had a game yesterday where I was one of the last two in the match. I lost a round and my team was completely dominated. The next round I was unable to change anything, and he didn't change anything. Not even the formations changed. My team dominated this round. On literally nothing but RNG in the AI's behavior, the result swung wildly from one round to the next.
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Rylalei
(EUNE)
Vreivai
(NA)
Mages in top lane reduces champion diversity, because you're never going to see many of the champions who are shut down by said mages in top lane in any other lane.
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C9 Aphrolift
(NA)
My point isn't that I necessarily think they'd ban for playing off-meta in the way you described. It's that tech companies in general tend to have selective enforcement of their rules, said rules can change at a moment's notice and be enforced before they've even told anyone about them, they enforce rules ex post facto, they ban or otherwise take moderation actions with nebulous reasoning and said nebulous reasoning leads to poorly defined rules that exacerbate the selective enforcement.
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ChickenWrap
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
It is RNG at that point.
It's just RNG deciding who wins the game.
And it's shitty.
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Kýll4Joy
(EUNE)
Vreivai
(NA)
Yeah, algorithms can't understand nuance like that, or context that changes the meaning of what was said. Something to keep in mind for the future.
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FairyTaleHappy
(NA)
Maybe people kept pretending "kys" meant "keep yourself safe" so often that people started using it seriously in that way. I've never seen it, but my 28 year-old ass barely knows how young people might be talking.
Probably not the case, though.
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My Comrade
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
You should have brought that up and resolved it when that happened, then. Since the ban stayed in place, the punishment tier escalates as normal. In this case, "as normal" means any small amount of toxicity escalates to a permaban.
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Darkin Hybrid
(EUW)
I think the lore stopped having any value years ago when they started constantly retconning everything.
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KeepYourFIzzique
(NA)
If you've always used the same email for the account, you could search through your email for ones about bans/chat restrictions.
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C9 Aphrolift
(NA)
Yeah, I was being kind of tongue-in-cheek there to highlight the difference in enforcement depending upon who has a problem with you, and how WookieeCookie very strongly implied that certain things are only breaking the rules if you do it to a streamer.
With the way Riot (and tech companies in general) enforce their rules, I wouldn't risk playing off-meta at all.
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C9 Aphrolift
(NA)
Well, based on the reasoning that was given for the ban, just don't play off-meta with a high profile streamer and you won't get banned.
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Teamfight Tactics
Vreivai
(NA)
So basically this is Nexus Wars from SC2 adapted to League?
Meh. Works better with RTS as a base.
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I am Kira
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
Just take a look at the front page of this board.
Yes, reporting does work.
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Zombie Gerbil
(NA)
There is a scale. It's literally built in to the system. You can either get escalating punishments starting at 10-game chat restriction, instant escalation to 14-day ban or in rare cases instant escalation to permanent ban.
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Jamaree
(NA)
That is definitely not true. Posts by someone looking for help with their chat logs posted usually get multiple downvotes before there's even a single response, and if they show that they're misunderstanding something about the game's rules or punishment system there are regulars on this board who will berate them and do their best to chase them away even if OP has shown no reason to believe they're here in bad faith. And often when someone does start to show bad faith, it's after a regular on this board has already posted a belligerent response to them.
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Eedat
(NA)
Might not have let them on his account. It's rather common for someone to gain illegitimate access to an account and script on it.
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ADC for win
(EUNE)
Permabans are sometimes lifted, but very rarely. It's safe to assume you're never getting the account back.
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Subdue
(NA)
And nowhere in that Code of Conduct does it actually lay out what the rules related to chat are. All it says is
>iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other players while using the Riot Services;
>v. Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot Games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable;
Which are both highly ambiguous, and there is zero explanation of how players are punished.
And when statements like the one I quoted in my first post are relatively common, there is a failure at communication on Riot's part.
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AuthoStats
(NA)
You're not going to win this. You used a macro that inputs move commands for you. That's about as explicit a violation of the rules as you can get.
Nothing in the rules says that it must give you an advantage to be ban-worthy.
As far as what Wuks said that you quoted, he said text macros are fine. What you did went beyond that. Nothing in what you quoted there should have given you the idea that using a macro that inputs movement commands for you is fine. In fact, the first line quoted from Wuks explicitly said that what you were doing was ban-worthy. Movement is part of your gameplay.
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zPOOPz
(NA)
Hard R to differentiate from the variant that ends in A.
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Godfather Star
(NA)
Not being ironic at all. Information about is is buried in support articles and this board, and information on the rules themselves is even harder to come by.
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Vekkei
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
Normally I like to give people on here the benefit of the doubt, but based on the context there it's pretty clear that's not what you meant.
As far as people having kys in their name, report them via support ticket. They'll be forced to change their name and may receive a ban for it, too.
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Lasiaf
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=Lasiaf ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jWzwWhuY,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-06T02:10:30.890+0000)
>Tbh I didn't even know a permaban really existed .. until yesterday of course :/
Riot really needs to explain the game's rules and the punishment system better to players.
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Imperial Pandaa
(NA)
Pretty sure it would be illegal for Riot to require your SSN to create an account, anyway.
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Imperial Pandaa
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M5qk1VhU,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T02:08:08.816+0000)
>
> Skype accounts have phone numbers last I checked, which is admittedly like 10 years ago. That is assuming that there is a verification step and not just a put in some random number. So that doesn't work.
Services that require a phone number usually do have a verification step. They'll send a text message with a code that you must enter.
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ErikTheRead
(NA)
A few hours, usually.
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ErikTheRead
(NA)
I have seen exactly what happened to you happen to others on this board. Usually, they get unbanned, though usually they also go through account recovery first. I think the reason for it is that it shows you are the original owner of the account. Again, I haven't had to go through this personally so I can't say for certain, but if your initial appeal is denied, try account recovery then appealing again.
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Jhins Girlfriend
(NA)
I'm not actually sure the C word won't result in a ban. Some feminists consider the word a slur against women, and it is censored on boards. I would hope it doesn't lead to a ban, but I ain't gonna be the one to try it.
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Imperial Pandaa
(NA)
There are ways they could make it harder to create additional accounts. Require phone confirmation, for example. That would likely be too restrictive on who can create an account for Riot's liking, though. It would also result in people losing access to accounts they've put a lot of time/money into unless old accounts were grandfathered in, and if they were it would be unfair to those who don't already have multiple accounts or are new to the game. I suppose they could allow you to use the same phone number for multiple accounts, and if one of those accounts gets banned all on that phone number get banned, but that still has the issue that not everyone has a phone.
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ErikTheRead
(NA)
From what I've seen, you want to go through account recovery first. I think those reviewing your appeal will simply look at "did the algorithm detect unauthorized third party programs?" If yes, appeal denied. I'm not certain on that, though,
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Owntrolf
(NA)
It's simple. To ban someone for using a banned word, all it has to do is detect the use of said word in a game. That's very simple for an algorithm to do. What's harder, and takes more information to come to a conclusion, is banning for gameplay related offenses, at least if they want to keep the false positive rate reasonably low.
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Vylxeras
(NA)
3) False positive
These do happen, as no algorithm is perfect, but are very rare. And if it is a false positive, you're pretty much SoL, because Riot treats their algorithm as if it's perfect.
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Yuumi or Dodge
(EUW)
For future reference, any amount of intentional deaths to the enemy team counts as intentional feeding. You can go 0/1, and if that 1 death was unambiguously intentional, you may get banned.
In practice, a single death will virtually never be punished, because such a death could also be easily explained by a lag spike, disconnection, real-life distraction, etc. and it requires at least several clearly intentional deaths for the algorithm to establish intent. Regardless of whether you're likely to be banned for it, though, any amount of intentional deaths to the enemy team constitutes "inting."
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Yuumi or Dodge
(EUW)
Generally people on this board have a strong dislike of anyone who received any punishment at all, and will downvote any post by someone mentioning that they were banned/chat restricted.
It's for that reason that I support removing upvotes/downvotes from this board, as it only serves to detract from this board's purpose.
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Newbz
(NA)
Vreivai
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Newbz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=u0AVgnX1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-29T23:49:52.947+0000)
>without any prior bans or suspensions.
Any prior chat restrictions?
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