: League seems to be in a really bad spot
When everyone complains about everything, is anything really wrong?
Korios (EUNE)
: Swain's VGU concern
Doubt it, since this was like 2 years ago.
tieger05 (OCE)
: I wish flash wasn't a neccessity.
When we didn't have Flash? You mean back in the day of Yordle Stompers? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yordle_Stompers
: Plague Doctor support?
I agree. Singed is the closest thing we have right now with his skin. I think it would be nice to have a Plague Doctor support. There are multiple directions you could go with it.
: How can he if he does only 40% damage?
: "First, we plan to directly change champion base stats."
I'm not sure on starting AP. Might as well just add more to the base kit since adding AP basically just does that. Would only affect those that build Rabadon's, which is basically few and far in between. Starting AP just doesn't seem right. It's like giving bonus AD (not base AD) to an AD champion. Why not just increase their base damages then?
Bârd (NA)
: Not a great build, tbh. * Only 1350 bonus HP * Builds no items that give both HP and resists, so you are lacking in one of those categories until much later in your build. * Only 10% CDR The only benefit of this build is the ability to "super locket" your entire team, but that's not worth it. No matter how big the shield is, it wears off fast and decays faster. If the enemy team isn't dumb enough to dump all their ults into your shield, the best case scenario is blocking the damage from their primary engage or forcing a momentary retreat. A variant of this build is good on ARAM, and it's not terrible on rift. That said, going so far as to call it OP is just asinine.
It's ok for certain champs from my own practice. You get a good bit of health with Cinderhulk and Warmog's which is bolstered by Gargoyle (which is also increased by Cinderhulk) and then you can use Locket to get like a 1250 health shield for yourself and nearby allies. If your Tank is reliant on CDR, you can invest in a big CDR item for the sixth item like {{item:3110}} . If their team has heavy AP, you can get {{item:3065}} or {{item:3194}} instead. While I agree it's not an OP build, it's not bad either or even mediocre. It's a solid build, but not on every Tank.
: Well, he can throw the fed ennemy assassin/bruiser into your squishies so it's an interesting mecanic.
SIayton (NA)
: Is Kayn supposed to get hit by AOEs and other effects while ulted?
Tethers, DoTs, and other similar effects can still hurt you (like Zed ult). Normal AoE can't hurt you.
: Can someone at Riot explain to me how Volibear keeps avoiding reworks/updates?
I completely agree with this post. Everyone harps about Mordekaiser, Skarner, and all the rest, but at least they are remotely enjoyable to play and have some complexity to their kits. Volibear is run in, flip, roar, AA some, bite, AA some more. All simple button presses with little to no aiming.
: evelynn doesnt have horns... {{champion:28}} <--- see any horns? but vaynes parents did die so i guess?
: This sounds like Kindred all over again. Forcing a class that isn't designed to jungle into the jungle is bound to be a balancing nightmare.
: this build is so fuckin dumb lol
This is why True Damage exists, especially % HP True Damage.
Cocho (NA)
: I mean, pen is better lol
Shred is better actually. Shred applies to entire team.
Almighty (EUNE)
: I'm still waiting for my Noxian support. _**Almighty.**_
Isnt {{champion:25}} commonly associated with Noxus?
: Could the raven's skull pic be a Swain's new armor?
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainSeto,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cKwVZ3UE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-19T23:57:02.553+0000) > > Here&#x27;s the thing. Him losing stacks upon death meant a good team could keep a cho from ever getting to the point where he was a threat as a tank. It also meant that in ARAM he was one of the most useless tanks to have on a team because he&#x27;d lose all his stacks by doing the only thing that allowed him to get items. He does what he was meant to do, and does it well. The ultimate solution to fighting a cho is end the game as quick as you can. Otherwise you&#x27;ll have to deal with the raid boss like you would a raid boss. But CHO ISN'T A FUCKING RAID BOSS He's a **tank**.
Cho is a Raid Boss in seriousness. He is a Tank, but he's also a Raid Boss.
Fasmodey (EUW)
http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/LOL_CMS_108_Article_05.jpg On a side note, I like that they are finally giving Swain the right, Noxus color scheme it seems.
: http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/07/champion-roadmap-july-2017/ 'tis here btw
So I saw, I see we will be getting some high textured ravens soon
: Gragas doesn't need a cooldown nerf on his R.
I just wish the cool down reduction on for his E on-hit would be affected by CDR. It's not fun to be stunned for 1~ second every 4.2 seconds when he has 40% CDR.
: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a9/a9955d0992ded88573a4e9ddea90c1a87472862dad214f22b29eb0e40184f586.jpg
: I find {{champion:75}} and {{champion:83}} to be like that. With Nasus, as you mention, it's farm, then hit a spike and take a tower. With Yorick, I farm my Q and at the right time, press it again and throw my dudes at my lane opponent and go back to farming, if they engage just box them or if at 6 summon your 2v1 game changer. They die, you push towers, you push lane, go take rift herald, take towers.... it's all fun.
I guess I can agree with Yorick. You yourself aren't the one really going in and wacking people.
: Dude we've had this 3 Dorans two tanks shove the wave in for way too long. Why would you want to play a lane in a way that makes you forget that it's a pvp game?
I want to defend my tower from the enemy if they get close. I want to make daring escapes and survive ganks. That's my PvP.
awdaf (NA)
: Officially trolled by Riot
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Ralanr (NA)
: "Sion, beware of Ravens."
I honestly don't get how Riot can shove in our face so many times that Swain IS evil, yet people still want to say he is just "wanting the best for the nation of Noxus, which includes necromancy, genocide, and other forms of horrific actions".
Reav3 (NA)
: Better pack something warm. :)
Kriske (NA)
: Yeah but even in that case, I find having the cdr worth it because, with Riven, say on my first back I'm able to buy{{item:3133}} that's 23% CD,{{item:3071}} If I were to get this in a reasonable time, that's already 33% CD. And I'd think having the 33% on a Riven early, especially in mid lane where I play her is pretty good.
Its a matter of choice really. You can either start with a ton of CDR or have some extra stats in other places. Depends on the match really if we are saying which is better.
Kriske (NA)
: You missed my point. Sometimes, there is no late game, hence the 15 minute FF option.
Sometimes there is late game though. Any game decided before the 20 minute mark likely wasn't affected hardly at all by runes anyway. Usually a sign of just one team outplaying the other a ton, not through stats.
: so you want tank meta back in top? no thx
I want to have a champion who's goal isn't to aggressively take over the lane, or at least can usually survive without almost any deaths. Don't need kills, just want to chill a bit. I want one champion like this, not everyone.
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: Name a champion and I'll tell you why they are unfun bullshit
deathgod5 (EUW)
: What champion passive would be completely broken on other champions?
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deathgod5 (EUW)
: What champion passive would be completely broken on other champions?
: Cho'Gath's Update
A champion is slightly powerful for one patch and the entire balance team plus some need to lose their jobs.
: "Personally, I don’t think that the current meta is an ADC meta" - Apdo/Dopa (reposted from reddit)
ADC Meta. Assassin Meta. Mage Meta. Tank Meta. Stupid labels. There are no role metas. It's just there are 2-3 busted champions in one role and, boom, all ADCs are strong. Remember when it was a Tank Meta in Season 5 (maybe 4, time confuses me)? Sejuani, Dr. Mundo, and Maokai, that was it. There were no other extremely OP tanks. The rest just got squashed because there were a few incredibly stupid ones that made the role stand out after perhaps a few class wide changes to the role.
: I never liked that they made cho damage scale with health
Cho's OP? I'm confused. When did this happen? What position? Why? Where? When? I haven't experienced this sudden eruption of Cho'Gath being OP. Everywhere I check, I see anywhere from a 52-54% win rate, but with a 4% or below play rate, meaning very few players are playing Cho that aren't experienced with him. Where is your evidence that he is OP?
: what is the actual lore behind the Omega Squad skins?
: > [{quoted}](name=PRÌÐE,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=j7X1n5Az,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-14T19:56:24.074+0000) > > gentlemen cho. they wouldn&#x27;t waste another suite on the same champ Nah my dude, this is an all white tux. Not a gentlemans suit.
Yifftail (NA)
: The feeling when Kayn is secretly Sasuke..
_Suddenly some weird country guitar music plays in the background_ https://youtu.be/u1RSQIVHTLg
: Aside from {{champion:51}} and {{champion:254}} we don't know anyone trustworthy within/ affiliated with the wardens to guarantee that they could handle Noxus' military. Jinx had a them wrapped around her finger, when she was serious. Piltover was founded merchants and inventors, after rune wars, thus the Wardens are not necessarily a Military force, so its not as though every Warden is ensured to be outfitted with hextech. They make mention of 2 warships outfitted with hextech weaponry in 'Progress Day', but beyond that hextech isn't your everyday commodity. Assuming the familia of the Bluewind Court decide to work together and in tandem with the Wardens, Zaun still isn't guaranteed to provide their assistance either and most of the champions won't budge unless they are directly/ immediately affected by the invasion. Actively plan a defense against Noxus: {{champion:51}} {{champion:254}} and the Wardens, maybe {{champion:126}}, {{champion:164}} and other Family Intelligencers as well as whatever sumpsines they pay off to help them (granted this would probably end up a futile attempt). Reactively protect Piltover: {{champion:154}}, {{champion:222}} maybe, and {{champion:61}} (I assume she is still in Piltover) {{champion:6}} will probably be waiting for when both sides are weak, to go up to Piltover with his men and take control and drive out Noxus/ slaughter those that didn't get away in time. I only see {{champion:245}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:19}} and {{champion:53}} helping if we have a story involving them that would follow into the invasion arc, otherwise they probably only fight if the fight comes to them. I'm not trying to downplay Piltover, but without a doubt they are the underdogs and I will be rooting for them if we have an event whenever that invasion arc happens, but they are literally surrounded by Noxus.
Well if we break it down based on lore level: Noxus- {{champion:122}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:8}} Piltover (and Zaunites Who Would Defend Piltover Inevitably)- {{champion:53}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:154}} So, as far as I can see, Noxus is outnumbered when it comes to lore figures. There are also many "neutral threats" that would inevitably make an impact on such an invasion that roam the streets of Zaun, such as {{champion:36}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:6}} and {{champion:29}} . I would say that, while both sides would not be immune to such threats, the ones from Piltover would at least be more "used to" such threats. Anyways, I would have to agree that Piltover would likely win in a stand off invasion. It is surrounded by an ocean and the many trade partners of Piltover would also likely not like for such a gigantic partner to be lost so Piltover would also have reinforcements. I understand that Piltover resides in "Noxus Country", but at the same time the city is basically a fortress. It's surrounded by water, has tons of supplies (and food that can likely be grown with hextech magic) on the inside, and also has the valleys of Zaun around it. It would just be so incredibly hard to invade without aerial assault, which Noxus has not shown off as of yet. So far, only PILTOVER has ever been hinted at having aircraft, so I don't believe this would be a potential threat. As far as lore power goes based on champions, the most powerful champions we are looking at are (based on current confirmed lore): {{champion:240}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:8}} vs {{champion:245}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:154}} (maybe {{champion:19}} ) Overall, Noxus has the higher power leveled champions. However, Ekko is a HUGE potential threat for Noxus to deal with. Janna might also have huge potential influence, but she is more vague in her current power compared to Ekko, who just controls time.
Krabohod (NA)
: As it was already mentioned in this discussion: it would be difficult for Demacia to get to the Piltover without full fightinh with Noxus first. Also, Demacia and Piltover do not trade, cause in Demacia trade is prohibited, as seen in the Medarda Heirloom, Demacians are also likely to see hextech as magic (cause in the end it based on Backern's magic). So why would they defend nation that they have no interest of saving, nation which is using thing Demacians' hate, have no economic influence on Demacia and is too far away to just send troops there without any consequences. People seems to forget that Demacia is not all-good nation. They are not good guys. They are just nation, just guys. They would not kindly save all they can, they would act only if it would heavily affect them. And Noxus' war with Piltover would not.
True. They would likely first acquire a trade agreement and would only act hostile if it would greatly benefit them, such as if Piltover denied them trade or something similar.
: wow 16/2/9 and i got a while 11/6/4 yasuo got s..
74 CS < 269 CS Plus, scores are determine based on each individual champion's average performance in the role you played. For example, a 5/0/12 may be an S on a Support Tahm Kench, but could be a B+ on a Middle Lane Katarina.
: you know thats called top down right? Third person is positioned behind the shoulder.
It's all technically third person.
: Also, that rifle looks like a plastic watergun tbh XD
I like him personally. The star eyes really get me.
: Who's going to be the forgotten champion now?
{{champion:82}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:72}}
: Reworked champions should be released with a "Release Skin" too...
It would only really potentially delay the reworks. I would rather have a decent champion now than one with a skin about a month or two later.
: Yet Riot won't fix him and he will get a rework probably at least 2 years from now
I think Morde will get a rework next year personally. Galio got a rework not too long ago and we already have Urgot coming up. Eve is probably due for September-October.
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