: Any news on the Lux comic?
It's getting made. I think JohnO is a good writer. Sorry, no new news.
d00mface (EUW)
: Hi, Odin! I loved Ashe: Warmother as a whole - I’m certain I’ve said this before but this (+ your other narrative work on the region) has really gotten me invested in the Freljord so thank you again for that! So my question for you now that Warmother has completed its short run is... Do you find you prefer writing prose or comic scripts? Do you find one easier than the other? Do you think you get different/better feedback from one medium vs the other? Sorry to go full English major brain on you, but I’m always curious about the preferred mediums of my fellow writers lol.
I strongly prefer writing film and TV scripts. I entered writing really backwards. I went to art school for undergrad. Studied animation and film. Fell in love with storyboarding. Worked in advertising. Hated it. Went to grad school to become a director or cinematographer (leaning towards the latter). Only to discover I liked writing scripts and jokes in my first writing class. I've always loved reading books and did some acting as a kid-- but my parents were visual artists and I (and they) kinda assumed that was where I would end up. I worked as a video editor before getting to write for TV and that even further pushed me away from writing description. Because of all of the above-- I prefer the more slimmed down style of screenplays (And I lean towards reading books with minimalist descriptions like Amy Hemple or Elmore Leonards). 'Cause when I'm writing descriptions, it feels kinda weird to not draw the stuff or thumbnail it-- and instead use words to describe it. It always feels kinda ugly and slow. In my prose writing I really tend to try and minimise descriptions as much as possible. Comics are even weirder because every part of my storyboardist brain wants to go at it-- but I also know that would give the artist no-freedom and make the job tedious. (because I've been on the other side of the relationship with a writer over describing.) shrug. It's weird.
: Oof, sounds difficult. Well, I think you did a really good job balancing character, plot, and worldbuilding with the amount of pages you had. Do you mind if I ask you some more questions?
No problem. I set aside time in my schedule today and tomo. (after that... its frankly when I'm waiting for a meeting. )
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=lfjyAswt,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-03-20T19:50:44.940+0000) > > 1) This will be explore much, much later. (hopefully) When we are looking at Lissandra. Sorry no spoilers here! > > 2) There are female frost priests. We just haven't been in a place populated or important enough for one to be there. > > 3) An oath is an oath. Its about the culture you are raised in and your own convictions. Sejuani was willing to break the oath her mother was forced into because she didn't think it should count. This isn't a magical oath. This is your word, honor, and reputation. (now making an oath to a magical creature... that's a different beasty). > > 4) no spoilers. > > 5) Really, really hard. But depends on what you are hitting it with. True fire? Not to bad. True ice? yeah okay. Normal earth steel? Yipes. It might shatter the steel instead or both the steel and the ice-- but it would definitely freeze and shatter the weak hearthbound, normal-human hand that you were holding the steel sword with.) Demacian steel? wow good question... donno. So can we say that per average True Ice is stronger/more durable than normal steel? Excluding the fact that any but incredibly powerfull beings and Iceborns are killed upon contact with it (and that even for the non-Iceborns that can touch it without dying, it would still cause immense pain). I mean from a durability PoV
I think its a complicated question that hasn't come up yet. the question that immediately swirls in my head is what if the person hitting the trueice is an iceborn? Or an iceborn holding a piece of normal steel? What about cold iron? What about silver? What about... etc etc...? As I think I've said before I don't like lists I like simple rules which create a lot of variables but which can be felt. (not sure how that plays out).
: First of all, thank you for the answers. I really appreciate that. > 1) This will be explore much, much later. (hopefully) When we are looking at Lissandra. Sorry no spoilers here! This kinda sound as if Warmother always have been planned as three comics focusing on the journey of the Freljord leader. That sound amazing. And I'm sure The Iceborn would love to get his Lissandra content. > 2) There are female frost priests. We just haven't been in a place populated or important enough for one to be there. Wait, that sounds like female frost priests have higher esteem than male ones. I guess the stronger Iceborn genes give them also better healing magic? > 5) Really, really hard. But depends on what you are hitting it with. True fire? Not to bad. True ice? yeah okay. Normal earth steel? Yipes. It might shatter the steel instead or both the steel and the ice-- but it would definitely freeze and shatter the weak hearthbound, normal-human hand that you were holding the steel sword with.) Demacian steel? wow good question... donno. Demacian Steel to op, pls nerf. But seriously, it still seem to be a difficult ask. Also, so other True Elements are actually a thing now? I remember Scathelocke mention that this topic was discussed intern but is still influx. Which could make an interesting discussion to see that is an element in Runeterra, how are this other True Elements are known in their culture (I doubt they will be called True xxx) and how these work. True Fire is easy to imagine - just a flame which never will go out and burn hotter than everything else. But for example, what in the hell would be the pure elemental form of water. Just water which can't evaporate and freeze? Could you drink it for example (since well, water is for drinking). How in the hell could you make something useful for society. Weapon? Maybe a nice fountain? Question over Question.
: I think you got a typo in the title, edit it as long as you can ;)
: I'm... Floored. This was all amazing to read. I had worries and doubts and small nitpicks, but overall? I loved reading these comics. Thank you so much for creating them. I kind of just wish there was more... I feel like maybe it would have benefited from having a couple more pages explicitly explore Ashe's mindset and conflicts, but with what pages you had I think you did an amazing job with. Ashe is one of my favorite characters in the game, if not my most favorite, and overall I really like this changes to her so far. She's still mostly the same character, but with much more depth. So does Ashe believe in destiny or not? Or is she still unsure about it? Does she truly believe in pursuing a goal of a unified Freljord or is she more going along with the flow? Also, will we get something for Sejuani as well? Or even more Ashe? There's so much to unpack from those two, I would really love to see more of them, or even the Freljord in general. So, thank you so much for this amazing first series! It makes me wonder what's next in store from you guys...
Yeah I have to say coming from a television background trying to fit a story into 20 to 25 pages of a comic book is really hard and involved a lot of learning, which my editor helped/pushed me through(thanks Ellie!). Personally would have liked to have spent more time (pages) on this story-- but comics normally have a pretty brisk pace compared to TV and manga. So I tried to respect that. Donno, I could go faster but it might be less emotional or I could go slower and the major plot points might take even longer to get too. (ugh!)
: Not sure if this is meant to be a QnA or not but I'm curious about two things. Has it been fulfilling to finally have the chance at completing this arc and releasing these stories that've been rummaging around in your head for years now? And what do you think is next for anymore Freljord based stories, anything you could possibly share?
1) It's been nice honestly to finally, finally get some of this world building and character stuff in front of the players. 2) Sadly I can't share them. (that would be a spoiler!)
: I'm sorry if I don't dwelve too deep in it but I still have this question: Is the origin of Ashe's bow been explained fully? Is it Targonian or Iceborn craft? Did she find it as she told or did she lie as Swain says?
Yep, Ashe's connection to the bow has not be explained yet. Sorry.
: So, we finally got the last issue of the Warmother comic and it has been a worthy ending for the first comic. First, I’m actually impressed how Sejuani was able to steal the spotlight the moment she came into the frame. I freaking love her whole presence in the comic. She is beautiful, she is badass, and she is a person with real emotions. The comic not only expended on Ashe but gave us such a better understanding about Sejuani. The fight between Ashe and Sejuani broke my poor heart. Overall, the moment when Sejuani declared Ashe as her battle sister was the moment it all turned to the worst for both of them. Sejuani was ready to do everything for Ashe and the first reaction Ashe gives her is hesitation. It broke my heart to see this kind of hesitation. I understand why Ashe could not watch to see innocent people get slaughtered. It was the right call to save them but it cost them their friendship. Not gonna lie, I felt a little bit cheated to see Sejuani coming back to her village, knowing this will be the point she will take the place as Warmother and not to see that will happen. This turning point for Sejuani deserves its own spotlight. Comic or Short Story? I don’t care but I want it. So but I have a few question with this final issue. 1. I want to know how this telepathic link between the Frost priests works. It such a small sentence but I want to know more. Can everyone learn it? Does it work like the dream walking Lissandra uses? Which downsides have it? Can someone hide his intention? Or does make it a person like glass, unable to hide and shows everything about you? 2. Are Frost priest are position only for male Iceborns? Since we saw a handful in the comic and these have been only male so far. 3. How difficult is it to break an Oath? Ashe and Sejuani are Battlesisters and we know that oaths are not taken lightly in Freljord. What would happen if Sejuani would kill Ashe? Is it completely meaningless now or does an oath has some kind of hidden magic, maybe? 4. I guess Urkath will be one of Sejuani’s bloodsworn? In “Silence for the Damned” it was mention that Sejuani has bloodsworns and he clearly tries to woo her. Which favor does he own to Sejuani? 5. How difficult is it to break True Ice? We can see that the broken helmet which Sejuani wears ingame is still unbroken in the comic. We know the helmet somehow got broken during the time her mother died. So could that happen to possible every True Ice Weapon? Or does it have some deeper meaning which could be used to fuel Sejuani’s claim as true ruler of the Freljord? Anyway, thank you Odin for delivering writing such an amazing comic and it was a blast to read. I can’t wait to see your work on Zed, especially since I expect a lot of information about Shadow Magic. Maybe I will be the person who does that big Feedback Discussion this time.
1) This will be explore much, much later. (hopefully) When we are looking at Lissandra. Sorry no spoilers here! 2) There are female frost priests. We just haven't been in a place populated or important enough for one to be there. 3) An oath is an oath. Its about the culture you are raised in and your own convictions. Sejuani was willing to break the oath her mother was forced into because she didn't think it should count. This isn't a magical oath. This is your word, honor, and reputation. (now making an oath to a magical creature... that's a different beasty). 4) no spoilers. 5) Really, really hard. But depends on what you are hitting it with. True fire? Not to bad. True ice? yeah okay. Normal earth steel? Yipes. It might shatter the steel instead or both the steel and the ice-- but it would definitely freeze and shatter the weak hearthbound, normal-human hand that you were holding the steel sword with.) Demacian steel? wow good question... donno.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Ashe: Warmother Comic Nr. 4 (final) Feedback and Character Discussion; SPOILERS
1) No update on Oathfather. Hoping the physical sales do well. That will probably determine the fate of a possible follow up. "Doing Okay" currently. 2) Vedmah is a role/ability. Existing across tribes and factions (and yes Lissy has many of them). It's like saying warrior. But in this case you mean an oracle or seer. The nature of their second sight an vary. Hopefully examined and seen in later stories. 3) Yes, hopefully in Oathfather. 4) No. Not to tribes which worship the old gods. 5) Keenly spotted. Notice how puny the piece of trueice is on Sejuani's and her mom's weapons. True ice is rare. The larger the piece of it the harder it is to control and the more it takes out of you. 6) Dark Ice is different from the True ice, and for the average Freljordians it is known to have better healing and regeneration powers. A person wielding it can even give warmbloods around him/her better stamina and strength-- closer to that an iceborn might have. (At this point I'm not going to answer, beyond what the common knowledge a typical Freljordian would have) 7) Valknu is very powerful. (BTW He was offering the services of one of his attendants. ) He probably wouldn't heal a broken or severed arm where anyone could see. But it is within his power, though that would really tax him and would have _other_ costs. 8). Mind reading will probably be explored in Oathfather. Sejuani believes they are lying about this ability. Kalkia thinks they are telling the truth. This is different from dream-walking. Dreamwalking is how Lissandra's faith communicates. And why the messaging is sometimes difficult to understand or do. 9) If Sejuani's magical ability was stronger-- yes. Is it? Who can say... 10) (no answer) 11) (see #10)
Falrein (EUW)
: Hi Odin. If you ever read this, I want you to know you broke my heart. I was so moved. I almost shed a tear. No joke. Other than that, I can safely say this was a great comic. It's reassuring to see that this Riot and Marvel first collaboration can give something so great, and it can only improve from now on. I'm guessing it's too early to talk about this, but would you happen to know if the comic sold well/got read a lot? Did the numbers meet Riot's expectations? Since it's the first time I'm guessing the numbers weren't that high, but I'm wondering if you're satisfied with it, and if we're on the right track to get more comics... I'm not even sure you can share actually, but it would be really great to know about that to be honest!
Ultimately at this point, it's fate will be decided by sales of the physical release. (In may I think?) It's done "okay" on universe. Obviously, the hope is people were waiting to binge when it was finished.
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Moody P (NA)
: sniping you to dodge class work are Volibear and ivern good friends since voli is such an environmentalist, making friendly trees and inventing water? is Volibear a net positive on the freljord or is he regarded universally as an asshole? Why even worship lesser gods or spirits when something like nagaka exists and bodies them all?
The Volibear is about “wildness” and “the wilderness” so it is a friend of ivern in some ways. But only because it is an enemy of fields, domestication, civilization, walls, and rules. It hates “the lies of men” and “man’s attempt to enslave and escape nature.” The more powerful a being is, the harder it is: to understand, to be worthy of its intention, or to communicate with. Probably naga is more powerful than the Volibear or Ornn (because a god > a demi-god) but which is easier to contact? which is more likely to come to your add?
: Its a god of Life, all living things matter. Whether its Gods Need Prayer Badly or just a "desire" (as improper that word is to describe a god's dominion), Runeterra might not be the only care but the Bearded Mother has reason to care for any life however small. Same how Kindred despises the undead despite being a pair of entities that represent and administer death.
Yeah Kindred cares about death and It hates undeath because that is an abomination to the cycle of life and death — it breaks the rules— so it is an enemy of naga and kindred. Thus I would agree naga cares about “all life” and is somehow fueled by it. BUT this also assumes each life includes an end. (The possible reincarrnation and after-life of a soul is seperate though related issue). Now Illaoi’s faith assumes all “life” serves some unknowable plan — thus we all are instruments of nagakabouros moving the universe towards some greater destiny. Thus a worthy, righteous, and just life to her is one that embraces life itself. Accepting and pursuing all of its messy mixture of ambitions, loves, feelings, and chaos. Now, is she and her faith correct about what Nagkabouros wants? who knows? That is where faith is required.
Quepha (NA)
: It isn't concerned It doesn't benefit It doesn't care Illaoi's religion is based around their observations of its actions and what they think pleases it. Because they take observations of (a very small part of) Nagakabouros, they may have developed a philosophy that happens to go along with Nagakabouros, but that doesn't actually mean it has impact upon it. Rick and Morty (200 IQ btw) uses this concept pretty well with their "Get Schwifty" episode where the town develops a religion around a giant head in the sky. It's a goofy version of Lovecraftian cosmic old gods that develop cults around them.
One of the things I thought was interesting about a religion in a world where you can see dead people, your own soul, magic etc... was that it still required “faith.” You can have absolute proof that your god is real and can effect your world. But you can’t be sure of its reasons or goodwill. Are you worthy of its attention? Does it prefer your foe over you? Is it even possible to understand what it wants? In Illaoi’s color text she tests Gangplank, but really it was a test of her own faith. She had to trust her god’s system over her own feelings. So the uncertainty of these gods’ goodwill and motives is intentional. It leaves a place for our characters’ and audience’s uncertainty. Everyone has to judge for themselves and make choices. There is no guarantee that good will triumph or even that you are fighting for the just cause. So whether your a non-ursine shaman of The Volibear, a vastayan druid, or a worshiper if Nagakabouros — you have to choose to whether or not to trust your god and your connection to that god.
: It was said by some Rioter(don't remember which one exactly, sorry) that Jhin actually had several Haikus in his VO that didn't make it into the game, among other things. Its probably like Kindred's poem, though, in the sense that it doesn't end. Though, honestly, Jhinkus are far superior.
Yeah. there were about a dozen haiku's recorded. But they violated the game's ratings level, so were omited. RE: The above. Most of the characters I wrote VO for have defined syllabic and speaking patterns. (Because real people tend to speak in patterns determined by the complexity of their thoughts, comfort level, energy level, and lung capacity.)
BSurvivor (EUW)
: the site Is too laggy i can't even read the comics
Is it fixed now? ( I’m not the guy who would fix it... but to quote Saul Goodman “I know a guy...”) Should be fixed now
Atgo (EUW)
: > When I was working on the worldbuilding for this, I assumed Lissy was from the matriarchal, child-centric, culture of the Freljord. And though she was creating something new with her cult (a new religion) her point of view was still from within that society. So her motivations, world view, and religion reflect that culture and her somewhat rightfully paranoid point of view. > > In a way her religion has its own rules, ranks and orders outside of the old culture. But it was built from that culture of oathsworn and valuing children above all. Just a question here. During the "imperial age" the Three Sisters ahd united Freljord and made it into a great empire spanned though _a bit_ better than the actual Freljord, even though I think the Iceborn...werent exactly the kindest masters, I thought life conditions of that era were better than actual Freljord and that it's children focused culture was made after the fall of the empire, the Watchers etc made life in Freljord A LOT harder. So was the "children culture" there since the start of Freljord, inclunding the "imperial age"? Or did you mean that since the chidlren culture and the Frostguard religion appeared at around the same time they were built on the same culture? Btw thanks for your activity on the Boards! It's wonderful to see Rioters interacting with their community like this, all your team does a great work!
So the culture existed before that golden age, because life was hard, and you needed people with magic to survive. The golden age happened and things got better but the culture didnt change its value system. And even in thst golden age it was still a dangerous place to live. Monsters, magic, cold, and unnatural cold.
: Same on this side, still feeling bad I got salty at Riot as a whole and involved you in it when you set such a great example.
No worries. Everyone gets frustrated and salty sometimes. (Me included and often) Just try to remmember my peers and I might be frustrated too. Maybe even about the same things. Or maybe behind the scenes stuff. We are all under pressure, facing restrictions from non-writer product owners, balancing various team needs, regional ratings restrictions, art needs, deadlines, and other stuff. And most importantly Just Normal Life Crap— the same stuff we all struggle with : ambitions and dreams, family stuff,etc... etc... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
d00mface (EUW)
: Hi Odin, just passing through to say that I'm really digging all the work you're doing with the Freljord. You've almost single handedly gotten me invested in a region I previously had next to no interest in. I'm super excited for the next issue of Ashe: Warmother! Keep up the good work and have a nice day, man! c:
Thanks! One more week (i think) till the end of the first freljord book. Then a couple months until the trade paperback is released in stores! (Yay!!)
: Wait, so you're saying that Lissandra's cult takes in anyone who pledges themselves to her cause, no matter the background? Also, does Lissandra use a bit of manipulation or secrecy to make sure her people remain loyal to her or no? And is Lissandra still called a warmother? In that regard, does Sejuani and Ashe kind of do the same thing? They both take in people who share their beliefs, no matter their background? Sejuani accepts anyone who shares her views and supports her leadership, and Ashe accepts anyone sees her as the reincarnation of Avarosa and thinks she is the rightful ruler? So all three of the leaders have many different kinds of people within their tribe? ... That's kind of a cool concept when you think about it actually...
I think there is a very selective process to get into the higher levels of the cult (where secrets reside) but for the lower levels the barrier for entry is probably just a willingness to work and show of loyalty. (i.e. getting to be a the level of a choir boy level pretty easy. Friar level a bit harder, Getting to beCcardinal level --rare and hard.) Lissandra is not called a warmother. But the power structure of her cult and her understanding of loyalty and hierarchy still comes from her freljordian cultural POV. Ashe is dedicated to taking in all sorts of tribes. Her vision to turn all of the freljord into one united tribe. She's even open to having both members of lissy's cult and the old gods. She may not trust all of them... but she knows she has to accept them if she wants to unite their followers. Sejuani follows the old ways. She wants the strongest tribe and believes that a tribe survives in part by preying on tribes weaker than her own. She's more about protecting and elevating the people close to her.
Zapzya (OCE)
: Hey Odin, just wanted to say that even though I may be unhappy with some of the directions the lore team has taken, I’m still really glad you guys even exist and love most of your work. Especially Warmother, that series is fantastic and I’m so glad you got to work with Marvel. So I’m sorry if I get a little heated in my criticism at times, you guys are great.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Children of the Frostguard - Orphans
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} When I was working on the worldbuilding for this, I assumed Lissy was from the matriarchal, child-centric, culture of the Freljord. And though she was creating something new with her cult (a new religion) her point of view was still from within that society. So her motivations, world view, and religion reflect that culture and her somewhat rightfully paranoid point of view. In a way her religion has its own rules, ranks and orders outside of the old culture. But it was built from that culture of oathsworn and valuing children above all. So yeah. She created a place for the orphans and the unwanted (and as Nunu shows her cult sometimes creates orphans to get children.) But the cult also takes adults and volunteers. Was Maalcrom orphan or a bastard? there's a good argument there. (i.e. I'm not going to reveal his backstory.) Maybe he originally choose that path because he liked the idea of being a healer more than being a warrior. Or was he attracted to the notion of a life devoted to something larger than his tribe? Or maybe he saw how badass they were and wanted in on that? Basically I don't think of her cult in black or white terms, because I think it's made of a lot of people with a lot of different reasons for being there. And I think she's too smart to only collect certain people. The frost priests in Sejuani's tribe are pretty clearly "baddies." But I would argue the frostguard in Ant's story are heroes. I think there are elements in Lissy's cult that have to be evil, but if we let it get too evil it wouldn't be realistic. And providing a place for lost children seems like a win-win for her. I can't say if any of this will pan out. Riot changes stuff all the time and I certainly don't feel like have much say in the directions we take. (In lore, character, or games.) But I can say your analysis of what I was doing is correct. (mostly)
: We must bring this Jhin Ross thing up to 4444 upvotes
: Hey Odin could I ask narratively how similar are Zoe's spell theft and Sylas' spell theft are
I can't speak to Sylas, but thematically I never thought of Zoe's spell theft as "theft" exactly. 1. she's not taking a spell from someone --she's getting to use it too, or getting a random one. 2. she's not really taking a specific ability or specific spell someone has (Unlike the hunka hunka sy-sy) i.e. She's getting a "summoner spell" which feels more like some sort of generic relationship with fate-- than the ability to create a giant flaming teddy bear. So I thought of this ability as thematically about her connection to change and chaos. i.e It was more about "random chance" frequently seeming to fall in her favor... especially in chaotic situations.
Atgo (EUW)
: Leona, Diana and Taric merged with their Aspects too, but you're also right that they didnt get all the power at once, I will send a wall text I did on Discord once to explain Ascepts, Ascended and Darkin so I can clarify it for you: > What I believe that happens with the Ascended is that the power of the concept comes down to human and the human body and soul are wholy remade by that power, but the concept itself is still on the celestial realm, as the concept would be erased had it fully made it to the physical realm. The quanitity of power absorbed by the human varies depending on how much physically and psycologic they're attuned to that concept. > > Aspects are a tricky one, while I believe the concepts are still on the celestial realm even when they get a host, the "conciousness" of the concept gets inside the host's head and the host will gradually get more attuned to that concept. You could describe that as the concept "planting a seed" on their hosts. Thats also the reason why Ascended get new bodies and Aspect mantains their bodies, Ascended need a new body since their human bodies would desintregate with so much power in so few time, but Aspect hosts have time to "adapt" to that power. > What I believe that happened with Darkins is that their concept was teared off from the celestial realm and forcefully had to materialize into a human body and then said body was trapped into a weapon. I remember Taco talking sometime ago about how concepts are not able to materialize in the physical realm due to their abstract nature, how does war looks? How does changes looks? Therefore when the Ascended gets fused with the entirety of the concept, it means > > Every. Single. Interpretation. From. Every. Single. Sentient. Mind. > > Their bodies are simply not able to exists and when they get into a weapon, everything that the concept ever was is reduced, and human minds cant reach to it because it is trapped. I believe that the entirety of the concept power is trapped inside the weapons, even though I'm not sure if the Darkins can tap into it. I hope that clarifies it for you. If you still have questions just ask me.
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} not all of this.... but the closest I've seen.
: So how much of Zoe's decision making and mental development is the little girl and how much is the alien?
The intention with Zoe was to show that the Aspect choose Zoe because she was so naturally going to be and act like it needed to. (Literally to personify it as a physical avatar) I.e. that the line between the two personalities and consciousnesses would be unclear even to them. They have a sense of "the other" but not where it begins, and just kinda "default to trust." _Merge_ in this instance wasn't meant as a one way street. The Aspect changed Zoe some... but also she changed the aspect. (It was clearly cruel previously) Pure headcanon, but I assumed when the Aspect was looking for its next vessel (in this case Zoe) the aspect of twilight knew (felt? saw?) on some level* that it needed to change... because the world was changing. And what it represented was changing. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} (*subatomic? subconcious? metaphysical shift? how do you explain a 4th dimensional being/ concept and abstraction made real by magic?)
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=E6sm7oxA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-06T19:07:15.491+0000) > > Where does it say? > > "When Zoe stepped through, she was forever merged with the ancient being" > > I don't see this in her bio or color story. And that does not seem like the language I used or would use. > > -Odin This line "When Zoe stepped through, she was forever merged with the ancient being. " is from the [insights page](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/11/champ-insights-zoe/).
Ah okay (thanks!) That’s just something the insights copywriter did. “Forever” is not a part of Zoe or any aspect that i know of. _Merging_ is intended though (and not unique Zoe). I think the insight’s writers intent was to show that Zoe the little girl was forever changed— not the aspect. Thanks
: Appreciate it. I've tried to be one of those people that praise Riot for good things and give them the benefit of the doubt on mistakes, but I guess it hit really close to home since I love Shyvana. (In case you can't tell.) I think I need to get the idea out of my head of what they said before, about being one of the best when it comes to being connected with the community. It was an old stance, and I think that's all it was. Regardless, thanks man hopefully someone will come out with an official response soon.
The answer is “i donno, sorry” and also i wasnt consulted on it, or have even read it, yet. (But mostly, I am trying to avoid answering stuff that is too off topic from whatever the original post was about. )
Terozu (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=E6sm7oxA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-06T19:07:15.491+0000) > > Where does it say? > > "When Zoe stepped through, she was forever merged with the ancient being" > > I don't see this in her bio or color story. And that does not seem like the language I used or would use. > > -Odin ------- >Delighted by Zoe’s carefree exuberance, the Aspect opened a shimmering portal to the apex of Mount Targon, offering the girl a chance to see the universe. She dove backward into the portal, instantly merging with the Aspect, then stuck her tongue out at her dumbfounded teachers as she disappeared. Her bio. Paragraph 6.
That's not the same quote. "She was **forever ** merged..." _Forever_ is not a word I would have used.
: Zoe - instantly merging with the Aspect
Where does it say? "When Zoe stepped through, she was forever merged with the ancient being" I don't see this in her bio or color story. And that does not seem like the language I used or would use. -Odin
: Hello M'lord WAAARGGHbobo, i hope you'll believe me when i say that i apologize for what i'm about to do (and for my english hmm…). My question has Indeed **nothing** to do with the post, it's about something you said about Jhin being related to Yi. I'm writing a fanfiction about Jhin (in french, not in english ofc since that would be such a mess) and i need to know if you were trolling or if it really was a hint. Thank you very much for your attention and, once again, sorry for the disruption '3'
I generally do not answer wuestions off topic. But sure.... im waiting for someone. They are Not related. From Rival schools. (Probably bad translation). Jhin’s father’s felt his school was treated as second fiddle to the wu ju (sp?) school that Yi is the last master of.
Kagiretz (NA)
: Riot, Please Dont Make Volibear Corrupted by Void.
Nah, He (it?) is not void corrupted in that story, nor is cosmic horror a part of his thematic direction. No worries... other than a building sized monster bear that make you forget civilization and your humanity.
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EsyM32Zf,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:11:04.899+0000) > > Shortly after Ashe finishes. I think maybe the next month after. I know this is off topic but is there anyway you can get me into contact with anyone from the art department? I have a request to make and it's rather personal.
I believe, our community team handle these sorts of requests. (I think) Message them, they’ll at least know more than me. (I would normaly say reach out on the forums, but many artists check the forums very, very infrequently.). Also even though it’s personal you will probably have to explain it to the community peeps. (But at least that’s in a private chat)
: I can’t fix it... but it should be fixed by now or soon. They are releasing the various localized versions as they are finished. I’ll check on the timeline today, but my understanding was everything would be done by this weds.
Yes, should be fixed by Weds. Thursday the absolute latest. But Weds is their target and expected release.
SickAnto (EUW)
: Ehy Odin! Good job again for your wonderfull work! But I have a little problem: in the Comixology site there are only the english version of the Third Issue and I can't find my languange version(Italian). Can you resolve this please?
I can’t fix it... but it should be fixed by now or soon. They are releasing the various localized versions as they are finished. I’ll check on the timeline today, but my understanding was everything would be done by this weds.
: What manga you grew up reading?
Mostly all the normal, mainstream stuff, Akira, Nausicaa, Ramna 1/2, Inyusha, Battle Angel, Dominion tank police, ghost in the shell, Appleseed, barefoot gen. I’m old enough that that stuff was kinda just getting realsed in the usa for the first time, when i was an early teen. I also like: one piece, Naruto, and blade of the immortal, but i was in college when i got into them. The only kinda esoteric thing i loved was “Short Program” by mitsuru adachi.. book 1 is tied with Akira as my favorite. Just a book of realworld human short stories— but really heartly warming.
: @Rioters since you partnered up with Marvel, I have a question for you guys?
I mostly grew up reading manga but i really like: Rucka, mignola, bendis, and kirkman.
: It's experimental, plus Marvel also cancels series based on sales.
correct. Also as shown by the recent problems with the comixology and marvel release we are still in beta. Marvel knows how to do comics publishing. Riot knows how to release simultaneous content in 20+ languages... But we're still learning how to work together.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EsyM32Zf,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-22T15:42:19.766+0000) > > Yeah, he’s a higher rank than Maalcrom. He’s not going away easily. Thanks for answering :) Odin sorry I know youre busy and no pressure to answer asap but I must ask this! I presume the Frostguard makes laws for the Freljord, so now that Ashe and Sejuani broke laws I wonder what other laws are there? Any laws you can share without spoilers?
Laws are more determined by tribes. The cult of the three has it's own rules, but a warmother can choose not to enforce them. (or in sejuani's case banish them)
Hozenb (NA)
: You have done a really great job in portraiting the characters of Ashe and Sejuani in the bio, color story, short story, and this comic series. Your wonderful story-telling just adds so much depth into their characters and relationship. Thank you for all of these stories. By reading the third issue of the comic, I noticed something. On page 13, Sejuani pulled the sled with all her effort (in the script, it mentioned that she was almost clawing in all fours) but Ashe did not attempt to give her a helping hand; on page 14, Sejuani was the one pulling on the oar. On page 16, Sejuani shared her blanket with Ashe. Also, Sejuani was the one coming up with the plan of what Ashe should do when they arrived the Winter's Claw. I am wondering whether these were just a coincidence, or whether these were trying to illustrate that Sejuani was the one who was more used to taking care of people. As far as I can tell from the girls' background, Ashe was protected and loved by her mother and fathers in most of her childhood. In contrast, Sejuani was a child who failed to get her mother's love and tried her best to seek love from her grandmother. So, Sejuani tended to be more independent, proactive and caring in her relationship with Ashe and Ashe tended to be the one who was protected and being taken care of. Did I overthink?
This was intentional. My thought was partially that in this part of the story (and possibly when they were kids) Sejuani was taking care of Ashe. Your insight was correct, I am showing Sej as the tougher and more experienced of the two girls. And this was a clear way to indicated that she cared about Ashe-- but was dealing with the situation. Just from my own life I noticed the person with the rougher background/experiences tends to take charge when the situation gets f-up... (Also I think Ashe is in grief and is weak from hunger and well... everything-- and this let us see her "recovering" because of these friendship)
: I cannot wait for your Zed comic.
Thanks! Though next up is Lux by John O. I think it has some cool surprises in it.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Just bought it! Thank you for updating us! The Script is so interesting to see and the Glossary comes in handy :) Also Interesting, in the Script you named the Frost Priest but not yet in the comic... All the more reasons to get the Extra
Yeah, he’s a higher rank than Maalcrom. He’s not going away easily.
: Could I also ask if you'll expand on the animosity between Ashe and Sejuani because Sej's bio doesnt really explain it and they seemed super chummy in this week's issue
Yes, and not just in the short term but we will unfortunately watch it grow for a while. In a way, this last issue is almost a flashback. It’s about showing you how important this friendship was to both girls. How obviously close they were, and how they must have leaned on each other in the past. They both grew up feeling alone, pressured, watched, and had difficult relationships with their mothers. But, ironically, the differences within those similarities are what will drive them apart.
RJay123 (NA)
: Just wanted to stop by and throw all my love and support for these comics. They're awesome and I think this is huge step in the right direction in terms of expanding League of Legends into other media. Personally, I think this is all part of your plan to make it to the big screen. Do the marvel route where the comics provide the source material for the movie. Can you confirm my prediction Mr. Riot {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: Odin curious, why Ashe of all champions to be the first champion for the comic series with Marvel, not that I have any issue with Ashe
Actually wasn’t decided by me. I think the team voted on it. (Lol while was out of office) They were looking for a heroic character that expanding might change players perception of, and thought the freljord had potential and cool stuff players had no idea about.
: When can we expect the first issue of the Lux comic?
Shortly after Ashe finishes. I think maybe the next month after.
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