Nylisa (EUW)
: i'm trying to imagine someone doing that over and over. its a hilarious image!
...Also he's a giant man.
Asudurga (NA)
: "Property of Kled!" sign ward skin?
There is nothing I want more than this! {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Can we just appreciate how well designed Illaoi is?
Golly, my pod is getting way too much love today. Thank you! We promise to only let it go to our heads. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-hearts}}
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wX1wphnV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-05-24T20:22:29.678+0000) > > Aw... shucks. I'll pass this around. > > ...But you know you're just gonna give us all big heads. > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Please.. Waaarg... I must know. What was the inspiration for Xayah's dance? It looks so familiar and I showed up too late to the AMA!
Warren did that animation. I think he pretty much made it up himself. He started out doing a sorta english raver thing... and then didn't like that... just kept messing with it.... and dancing at his desk.... and messing with it.... and dancing at his desk... (It's pretty awesome).
: An Open Letter to Rakan's team
Aw... shucks. I'll pass this around. ...But you know you're just gonna give us all big heads. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: How come does Nasus know the modernShuriman language, correct me if I'm wrong but after the fall of Shurima, he isolated himself from the world, but when he met Taliyah and Sivir, he was able to understand them and to be understood from them. How did he learned the modern Shuriman language?
Isolated is not the same as trapped in box -- or outside of time. (like his peeps) I imagine he speaks with a heavy accent-- but can communicate. 'cause, I mean, he had to go out and eat tacos sometimes.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: What does Nasus and Renekton mean? Why are Azir and Sivir's names similar? Also why don't you have Rioter icon? Don't come with bad news pls.
Technical problem. I hadn't noticed it. The talented (and witchy!) Bioluminescence fixed it.
: What happened to your red?
Wait what? Ah crap. Thanks, I hadn't noticed it. Now, I get to wander over to the IT department and see wtf happened.
: wouldn't you mean Latin vs Italian? English is a germanic language which has some stolen words from the romanic(based off of latin) languages of Italian, french and Spanish.
I don't think they are that close. I might give you latin to haitian creole or maybe, maybe brazilian portuguese. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Will there be a new Worldbuilding lore for the Frejlord (similar to Bilgewater, Shadow Isles, Mount Targon, Demacia, etc.)?
Yes. But not similar to that style probably. A new thing. We rito. Always trying that new style.
: Isn't her flail also made of True Ice?
: Wait.....those horns are made out of True Ice, aren't they? Isn't True Ice nearly indestructible? If that's the case then...............holy hell. A part of me says you really don't want to get on Sej's bad side.
You really, really, **really** do not.
Sharjo (EUW)
: Yeah vastaya can be any kind of animal, athropods, reptiles, birds, fish, etc.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Xerath has meaning of ''little cunning demon'' or something similar according to WAAARGHBoo iirc. It was used to be mocking, like people wouldn't take it serious in Xerath's human life. But after Xerath's Ascension, meaning of name also has changed thanks to Nasus. People now know it as something seriously devilish. Like name of the Voldemort, people avoid to speak it. I'm pretty sure Xer doesn't mean something equal to cuteness and innocence of baby bunnies either. Edit: I found the answer. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/f2tgimyd-something-interesting-about-the-shuriman-language?comment=001a0000000000000000 Xer seems like also has meaning of ''hateful and ''devil''.
Yep. This is also an example of how the Shuriman language has changed in 1000+ years. AS noted in Sivir's color text "Water"-- she can't really understand what Azir is saying most of the time.
: I'm not sure I understand this. Got a few questions. Is "Eye’Sse’a" meant as a pronunciation guide of "Iccia"? If so, why does it include "s" if that sound doesn't exist? Also, which sound are you referring to when you say that "“X” sound does not exist?" "X" can mean two different things in English orthography (/ks/, as in "fix", or /z/ as in "xylophone"). And neither of those involve vowels, so why is it in that section? I'm particularly confused since the letter shows up in example word #36. What are the bracketed bits after numbers 32 and 35? I'm inclined to say they're meant to indicate pronunciation, but one of them starts with "oo", which is stated to be impossible. This also raises the question of what sound "u" is actually supposed to make, as it shows up all over the place. What sound does "q" represent? It's usually a /k/ in English, but since "K" is supposed to be replaced with "c", I wanted to make sure. Number 62 includes the letter "j". Which sound does that indicate? The three most common ones would be /j/, /ʒ/, and /d͡ʒ/. The last seems pretty unlikely with the sequential stops, but the other two seem possible enough. I could probably think of more, but those are the first things that come to mind.
The most import is the first one. "Buhru Language **Guidelines** (not rules):" Based on previous language worldbuilding I've done (on other properties) --my general rule is.... every rule must also be broken --infrequently. This is because real languages don't exist in a bubble-- they are affected by their surroundings and change over time. A little variation creates a sense of depth-- implies the history of a place (and opens that up for exploration later) --When possible these variations should tie into other world building in flight-- but even then some instances should occur for future exploration. For instance Vastayan has a relationship to Ionian (and is some of places where Ionian breaks its own guidlines-- it will be an example of modern Ionians are using a vastayan word. (probably incorrectly) Modern shuriman's relationship to ancient shuriman and noxian would be a similar example.
: Is the Vastayan language the same or related to ionian? (I mean what karma speaks) Btw what is with this word? https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/a/ad/Xayah.move33.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20170422022652 Idk how to write it
Lore: The Vastayan language is older than Ionian and Ionian borrows a lot from it. (Think Latin vs English). Production: We reverse engineered Vastayan from what we knew about the ionian language.
: Why is the horn already broken before she even put it on, what a shit gift
Except that she is the one who broke it.... when she killed the previous wearer. (bittersweet--lore)
Draclen (NA)
: What Thought Process Goes into Naming a Champion?
So, I can't talk to the process pre- Rek'Sai. But currently we take a lot of time and care and it often takes several weeks (or even in some painful cases months). If the language for the area hasn't been outlined yet-- that's the first set. Then as series of goals are set. (i.e. Sound's exotic, sounds mean, is one syllable, has three syllables. relates to a place, etc..). Next the writer does some research and generates a list of names. --The pod and other writers cull that list to a top ten. This is checked with localization teams to make sure the name isn't something terribly wrong of off-color. Assuming the writer doesn't have to start all over again- the remaining few choices are narrowed down and final selection is made.
Azteryz (NA)
: interesting what about rengar's invisibility cloak? is that a form of changing his appearance to blend with the environment or is it something specific only to his tribe of hunters?
Vastayans are tied to natural magic-- not just spirit animals. The spirit of places, plants, stones and ideas.
: I believe they are part of them. In rakan's story he thinks about changing the color of them, but decides not to because it would take some magic. some vastaya are able to change their own appearance but I haven't read anything that makes me think they could change their clothing magically as well. Therefore I think it's more likely the feathers are apart of them.
Yep. The Vastaya are not like us or yordles. We have a true shape. Yordles have a stable shape but it is hidden behind a glamour (aka an illusion). Vastaya must have a physical form (unlike a true spirit) but they can change this form pretty severely-- provided they have access to enough magic, are well rested, and have some free time (the complexity and familarity of the form can make transitions much, much faster though). Most have "prefered" shapes relating to the cultural norms of their tribe, subconcious personal expression, and to the collection of spirit aspects their tribe are the closest to.. When traveling in human lands true vastaya often try (conciously or subconciously) to look more human-- or are inspired by human fashions. Rakan has a cloak, because he likes cloaks and he's traveling in human lands. He could make it into wings or a shiny tuxedo if he liked-- but it would wear him out until he got used to the shape. It's likely that Rakan would NOT be able to make his appearence something that wasn't colorful and loud-- because his personality forces itself upon his shape-- and a drab exterior would be painful for him. People with vastayan heritage retain some of this power but have much more limited control. They might be able to transform quickly-- but only to one or two shapes (usually related to their spirit animal). Or they might be able to "partually" transform to many shapes or harness natural magic...but they aren't really in control or can't totally transform.
: @WAAARGHbobo: Regarding Xerath's "magical nuclear reactor" thing...
All of our characters have built in ironies: Xerath was powerless. Now he is so powerful he is only barely contained. Xerath was a slave, he thought that by getting power he would become free of his chains. But now, with power, Xerath's chains are all that keep him from exploding (dying).
Fasmodey (EUW)
: WAAARGHbobo, what would happen if Xerath entered to Demacia?
He would be.. slightly less likely to explode and destroy everything
: Shen's SS and the Vastaya
Shen is not Vastayan but he is a guardian of the balance between the two realms (planes/dimension). -And yeah-- Xayah is not fond of him or his order-- she wants change.
: Xin Zhao needs a horse
Dude. I love the idea of rework-- with him on horse. (I will pitch this)
: :p I kinda want Zed not be the old power corrupt thing. I kinda want him more anti heroish instead.
Zed is, indeed, much more complicated than you think. But he is definitely _not_ a nice person.
: Xayah and Rakam Upon Entering the Anti-Magic Filled Demacia
It won't instantly kill them--- but it would be like you walking into the Sahara desert... in August... on a hot day... without sun block. ugh..
: Which question is that "yep" directed at? XD
: Then I have 2 questions: Xerath and Aurelion Sol. Xerath is now a being of magic, how would Vastayans (and more precisely Xayah) see him? Why is Xayah so friendly towards Aurelion Sol?
In Xayah's view, Xerath's magic, and all of the magic of the ascended is stolen. Xayah's lines to Sol, are because Matt worked on both champs. (Similar to Rakan's lines to Rek'Sai. They are there 'cause that's the first Champ Jimmy (beefpunchbeef) and i worked on together)
: Question, is Ahri going to get a lore update sometime soon, and does Xayah see her as the worst sort of Vestayan out there?
: So there's a physical world, a spirit world, and a world between the two?
There are "borders" between those two. Think of it like the ocean and the land... there are tide pools, mangrove swamps, river deltas, cliffs, and sandy beaches that form the borders. Some borders are clear and delinated (a beach or cliff). Others are difficult to judge.
: When's the AMA?
On the 20th... (next week?). I believe.
: Thoughts on the Vastaya topic.
To clarify: Having Vastayan heritage is not the same as _being_ a Vastayan. A true vastayan can live in our world-- but not for very long without access to magic, also a true vastayan can live in the spirit realm-- but not for very long without a material form to contain them. (The ancient ones were born in the borders between realms. Long ago those borders were less distinct and more common) Furthermore, many creatures gain power from the spirits' realms in other ways. Vastayan --and creatures with the Vastayan heritage-- have a common ancient ancestor born from between "our" world and the spirit world. This means they are born with a natural magical connection to that, well... natural magic. Others creatures and magic users have stolen this magic or taken it from the spirit world-- but they are not vastayan and do not even have that heritage. Finally, with all things you hear from a League Character be aware you are hearing that character's POV. I.e. What Rakan and Xayah say is not "the truth" it is their perception of the truth. Shen or Azir would see this magic in a very different way--- though their perception is also limited. (Feel free to bring this up during the AMA when I have more time to answer questions.)
: The Vastaya, Xayah, and Rakan
To clarify: Having Vastayan heritage is not the same as _being_ a Vastayan. A true vastayan can live in our world-- but not for very long without access to magic, also a true vastayan can live in the spirit realm-- but not for very long without a material form to contain them. (The ancient ones were born in the borders between realms. Long ago those borders were less distinct and more common) Furthermore, many creatures gain power from the spirits' realms in other ways. Vastayan --and creatures with the Vastayan heritage-- have a common ancient ancestor born from between "our" world and the spirit world. This means they are born with a natural magical connection to that, well... natural magic. Others creatures and magic users have stolen this magic or taken it from the spirit world-- but they are not vastayan and do not even have that heritage. Finally, with all things you hear from a League Character be aware you are hearing that character's POV. I.e. What Rakan and Xayah say is not "the truth" it is their perception of the truth. Shen or Azir would see this magic in a very different way--- though their perception is also limited. (Feel free to bring this up during the AMA when I have more time to answer questions.)
: @Riot, a quick question about possible future voice over updates.
We "like" to use the original actors when we can, but it's a complete variable with reworks: 1. Can the actor still do the voice? (voices age and can be damaged) 2. Is the actor available in our timeframe? (Conflicting show, out of country etc..) 3. Is the character's VO direction or backstory changing signifcantly? 4. How does the rework pod, VO team, and narrative team feel about the original performance?. 5. If there has been a small shift in the character--- is the original actor able to perform that? etc...
: Xayah originally called Rayah?
nope. She did have a "working title" That was probably a typo.
: Xayah and Rakan's duo quotes still trigger if one of them is dead.
: @Riot Lore Persons - Does Rakan not actually love Xayah?
Those lines trigger on the death/killing of an enemy team Xayah-- and are thus meant as a joke. He absolutely loves her.
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OPkqt6tg,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-05T03:41:40.989+0000) > > If your working on some fan-fic I'm happy to give you the language rules though. Close enough! Hit me!
Here you go some of the stuffs. (very and crudely abridged) **Buhru Language Guidelines _(not rules)_:** Words are built on combinations of Aztec and Ancient Greek, with additional elements of Hawaiian, Aboriginal Australian, and Latin. **Rythmn and order:** Vowel sound are often built into consonants. Examples. Oro, aco, ata, umo etc.. for Compound vowels this is also true. So Oalo, Altua, Uocae, Most words end in a vowel (if feminine) or a compound consonant (if masculine). i.e. tl, chtl, ect… C is an exception to this and may end a masculine word. Full words are usually (not always) three syllabi. Iccia. " Eye’Sse’a." Two syllables words do not usually exist alone and have a, three letter word adjacent to them or merged into them. i.e Kaiya-oto. Kai’Yah Oto. Two letter words are adverbs or adjectives. (like Japanese use of –san) The language is broken into three syllable words, two syllable words, and five syllable words. Typically a single thought takes about twelve syllables. “Kaiya-oto iccia, ohomoc-ata uotaca.” Punctuation: Never use an apostrophe ‘. For longer words use a – if needed. **Vowels:** “Ao” does not exist. Use “Oa” instead “Ea” does not exist. Use “Ae” or “æ” instead. “E” letter does not exist. Replace with “AE” or ii (Sean = Siian) “X” sound does not exist. “Er” sound does not exist. “Ir” sound does not exist. “Ou” do not exist. Replace with “ua” or “u” (out = uat OO does not exist, except at the end of feminine words. (boot = Buot / ) (Llatoo ) “AI” sound very rare. Do not use this sound most times. “AS” does not exist and is not used. “Y” is only used at the beginning of a word for the “eye” I sound. **Consonants:** “K” is replaced by C “M” is only used next to vowels and is never the beginning or end of a word. “S” is replaced by C. The S sound does not exist. “T” is never alone. Add another consonant. Tl, Tl, Tc, t… “Th” sound does not exist. Do not use this sound. “H” is never used alone. (hr , htl etc..) “U” can be used as vowel or as consonant for V “L” is never alone (The “L” sound is always long. IF using L Add another consonant Ll, tl, lw, lc, ul, etc..) “Sh” does not exist and is not used. “V” letter does not exist. For sound replace with U. Be aware and avoid direct use of of Tl, Tc, cll, Chtl, Ythl, etc… Some Random words: Xaiv Yurochtl Oqul Illuora Illuka Iwtia Ictae Guyra Kaiya Ioelu Atha Octala Qo-a xoas Xoas Qo-a Yegu Sa’eu Tua Qo-uto Ibuhr Vae-a Poao Opochtli Colotl Yaotl Coatl Otomoc Tlaco Nlaepin Xoco Rava Ocllo Yutu Curi Bauhro Laidahcii 1. Bradhuc Ladcii 2. Bru-ahcci Lahdi 3. Burahdatc Lacbi 4. Buahdacci 5. Buara Dalii 6. Ctamacihtol 7. Altoc 8. Althabo 9. Abulaccanii 10. Ucanu 11. Chodatc 12. Buzulduac 13. Yuotldii Lahyi 14. Arzintli Qaoc 15. Lcaoc 16. Aocarzintli 17. Opochtli 18. Oalhauchtli 19. Qoachitli 20. Yulutl 21. Ubrucii 22. Qoasotl 23. Ozoac 24. Uqioc 25. Ohlaoc 26. Ulioc 27. Yaotl (enemy) Modify to Yaotli 28. Arzintli (water sacred) 29. Qaoc Cuatl 30. Qtocaotl 31. Owaimoc 32. Uwan Yaowc (Oo’wan Shaos) 33. Illaoi 34. Illuka 35. Guhra Ctaoc (Gow’ rah Shaos) 36. Xaoc Guhra 37. Kaiha 38. Ioilu 39. Ata 40. Sa-iu 41. Tua 42. Oto 43. Omu 44. Vaia 45. Upali 46. Opochtli 47. Qalotl 48. Cuatl 49. Caolz 50. Ozomoc 51. Tlaco 52. Taepl 53. Zocua 54. Rava Ucllo 55. Yutu 56. Curi 57. Octulu 58. Ghiara 59. Nura 60. Tlatha 61. Yuralha 62. Tjorrah 63. Yllacta 64. Tuamaz
: So Rakan can pass Illaoi's test? What about Xayah?
I think part of these two finding a purpose for their lives was/is tied into this relationship. They have goals they are chasing, they have love, they are doing what they think they should be doing with their lives. They are in motion.
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OPkqt6tg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-05T01:27:53.403+0000) > > Yeah, although the other writers do this work too. > (Although I seem drawn to do it more often). > > I don't want to reveal to much of Illaoi's languages meaning-- it is intentionally meant to be exotic and untranslated. > > I'll give you "Altak." It's a combination word-- it means both "to see" or "eyes opening" and "because" or "understand" Effectively it means "awaken to reason"-- but in conversation can be used to mean any of the above. Well. That's unsatisfying. And also makes it difficult for potential Fanfic writers. Buhru sounds like such a cool place and yet there's very little we know about it. I suppose it makes sense since most Bilgewatrians probably have never set foot on Buhru. But still, even the most exotic and distant languages have translations. You had to combine words from different languages to make Buhrun, right? Something that would have been impossible or otherwise very difficult if you couldn't understand the words you were using in your native tongue, right? Most other conlangs in movies and video games are translated if only for the sake of convenience. Granted, Illaoi only speaks a few lines in-game using her native tongue, so ultimately, not that big a deal, I guess? I still would've loved to know more. =/
If your working on some fan-fic I'm happy to give you the language rules though.
: Yo, it's the Kled dilemma again, where his most bombastic voice lines are front-loaded into these audio dumps because of how Riot labels their files. The soundbites from 2 minutes onward are much more subdued and actually fit how Rakan looks.
Yep. The lines are alphabetically arranged by the type of trigger.
: @WAAARGHbobo - You say you work on champion languages?
Yeah, although the other writers do this work too. (Although I seem drawn to do it more often). I don't want to reveal to much of Illaoi's languages meaning-- it is intentionally meant to be exotic and untranslated. I'll give you "Altak." It's a combination word-- it means both "to see" or "eyes opening" and "because" or "understand" Effectively it means "awaken to reason"-- but in conversation can be used to mean any of the above.
: Xayah and Rakan are the teenage couple that make out too loudly in a public place
The first 3 minutes of lines are his "attack lines." The sound files are arranged alphabetically.
: > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=LBtVAztG,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2017-04-04T18:34:54.302+0000) > > Their shape is defined by magic. > > In the same way our shape is defined by water. ??? What does this even mean. Our shape is defined by many years of evolutionary history and the physical environmental conditions on earth.
we are animals that evolved from sea creatures. Our physical form, our lungs, everything is build FROM modifying a sea creature into a land creature-- The sea is still what our core design is from. Magic.
Sraeg2013 (EUNE)
: And what's consistent about vastaya exactly? _"They are shapeshifters!... Except for those that aren't... But they are still vastaya!"_ https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.218547668.2032/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg
Their shape is defined by magic. In the same way our shape is defined by water.
: Hm. How do you think they would be affected if they were near Galio?
not sure. But I'm also not sure how I would do if I was covered in calcium chloride and placed next to 90 million de-humidifiers... ...probably _unhappy_ at least.
: They drink magic and 70% of their bodies are made of magic? @,@
: About the Vastaya: "the vastaya are not an individual species, but [snip] a phylum" ???? Also Ahri
Not exactly. We and fish share a common element. We both NEED water are primarly made OF water, and evolved BECAUSE of water. The Vastaya have ancient ancestors who relate to natural magic the way we relate to water. (Edited added below) It is easiest to understand the general term Vastaya if you non-literally translate it to mean, "shaped BY natural magic." It covers a wide spectrum of creatures - mostly chimeric and shapeshifters who exist as phyical beings but require magic as we require water.
: How did you guys come up with the name Vastaya? It sounds extremely Slavic, but I can't think of a possible root. Vas=village maybe?
Much like Illaoi (and her language) it was created in house. A basic phonetic system is build from several root languages (never less than four) and then built into words. Those words are then tested in languages to make sure they don't mean anything. The phonetic system is then re-used for anything relating to that champ and its homeland. This was a combination of sanskrit, east asian and slavic languages.
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