: No Boundaries.
You should check out the lore my dude it’s a whole new world
: {{champion:245}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:245}} is 1 through 5.
"And in this essay, I will demonstrate..." But yeah, his theme is one of the classics (I think its in "Warsongs" ).
zounet (EUW)
: {{champion:136}} sounds so cosmic and of course {{champion:164}} and {{champion:202}}
Jhin;s theme goes off in lots of interesting directions while keeping a consistent theme. I get goosebumbs from the Camille theme, the melody is just so {{summoner:14}}
EATARI (NA)
: Easy number 1:{{champion:240}}
His theme is iconic, and triggering, as a top laner.
: In no particular order: {{champion:6}} Visionary Anarchist (Bane) {{champion:222}} Anarchy for fun {{champion:82}} Death Knight/World Dominator {{champion:412}} Reaper/Tormentor {{champion:19}} Cyborg Werewolf Vigilante
Great comment, I was talking about music themes, but, I notice that may not have been clear. I'm liking your summations though. I think Riot's strength is drawing on archetypes we find appealing, whether in presentation or background.
Jacksin (OCE)
: My take on Kai'sa
the league community’s popular definitions of what makes a good character tend to be limited in their scope and variance. This is a thoughtful analysis, .
roolik (NA)
: Never saw pepole mad cuz of that. I did see pepole mad cuz shes very strong
People got very pissed about character
Rioter Comments
: Cinematic Parallels: Thresh and the Indominus Rex
What do you think this analysis tells us about Thresh?
Jaspers (EUW)
: The man's grieving, give him time. Sylas is the only antagonist in the story.
Not sure, Jarvan doesn’t look like he’s slowing down the Demacian wheel of justice any time soon. The civil conflict in Demacia isn’t one you can paint with a broad brush. We clearly see how even a well-intentioned, “good” man like Jarvan can fall to the common trappings of authority.
: Riot has a problem with continuity
I really don’t see be problems with any of these, but if these things really get in the way of your enjoyment then I can get it.
: Lux embracing her magic and making it her own
Also, spooky that J4 is shaping up to be an antagonist.
Rioter Comments
: Impact? Sure. Positive impact? Not so much. It is getting annoying that Riot thinks always doing the same "twist" where the light side is actually evil is somehow adding variety.
Oh no we have deeper lore now than just “white army good, black army bad”. Seriously though, the changes Sylas brought to demacia feel natural and explore the relationship of Laws and Justice really well.
: Jarvan III is not dead. He wants his son married first before he goes.
: {{champion:131}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:142}}
Diana has an outdated VO, and Kayla, Morgan’s grew up in Proto-Demacia a long time ago, enough time for vernacular differences to develop. Zoe also came from a long time ago, again long enough to justify vernacular differences.
: Conspiracy theory: The Crownguards killed Jarvan III
I’d also like to add that it’s now obvious that Tianna wanted Lux married to Jarvan as a means of creating a Crownguard heir! I think the Crownguards are in it for the control of Demacia.
: It's pretty obvious it was them. The bigger question is are they acting on their own "for the good of Demacia" or are they in cahoots with someone.
I think it’s more powerful for them to be upholding some twisted idea or order than to be in some sort of conspiracy. This does not preclude though that there are powers that stand to benefit from the chaos.
: And who better to "investigate" Jarvan III's tragic death than the Mageseekers? After all, there's a mage rebellion going on. Mageseekers like, maybe, Tianna and Mr. Tianna would be highly qualified to ~~erase any signs of~~ look into the possibility of foul play.
darkdill (NA)
: Yeah, but that was a dumb move on her part. She'd still stand a better chance against him while having her powers.
Does she really know how to use her powers though? It seems like they’d be more useful to Sylas than to her.
darkdill (NA)
: I don't like how Lux keeps having to avoid using her powers in the comics
I thought she used it so that Sylas couldn’t take her magic again?
: The mention is Naganeka remarking that Rhaast wanted to kill Xuyaan personally. They don't specifically say he's an Ascended in the two sentences of lore he got, only that he'd be mad Ta'anari killed Xuyaan because he wanted to do it himself. Which as a scythe who can possess people, he could still in theory do.
I still feel like the mention was made in the mood of twisted camaraderie that all the Darkin have for each other. Rhaast, like the other Darkin, has been broken over the many years. He basically exists entirely for bloodshed, and so believes it’s his purpose. I don’t think those are signs that he was a weapon originally, especially since we receive no indication anywhere that that would be something any of the Darkin are capable of.
: The Unifying Theory of Rhaast
Isn’t Rhaast mentioned in the story where the Darkin get defeated? Iirc they refer to him as a fellow Darkin/Ascended so it seems like he would exist independently.
Rioter Comments
: It is Xerath. Everything lines up. > But, as I well know, some abominations birthed by Shuriman hubris live on… Xerath is from the days of the Shuriman empire. > A creature looms, burning and broken like the empire it would rule. It is unlike any Ascended I have ever seen, a shattered god that has claimed this fallen city, and would see it rise again. > But once… it too was a man. Xerath visuals match and he wants to make Nerimazeth the new capital of Shurima. Additionally, he was a man who became an Ascended. > The Ascended has left no blood upon its tip, only sand. It possesses no flesh other than magic and stone. Again, matching Xerath's visuals. He is a being of magic and a shattered sarcophagus. > Around us, the ruined city burns, as the Ascended’s magic refuses to fade. Further confirmation that it's indeed an Ascended.
This story takes place before Xerath’s escape from the tomb, but now that I think of it it could take place right when Xerath escapes.
: Hey Riot, Why Are The Women In Your Game Mostly Sex Objects Despite Having No Real Reason To?
Hey man you have my full support. The thing is though these boards are absolutely terrible at discussing social issues, they’re filled with gamer types.
: Garen's make-ups are too thick...
Idk it’s hard to say when characters have makeup since every character seems to have flawless skin and solid face game. So either everyone has makeup or no one does.
Jacksin (OCE)
: Jax and Rammus are the only champions that species we have no idea about
Pretty sure Jax is a dude who has undergone some level of corruption or modification throughout his years.
NY64 (NA)
: Question about the sea monsters that surround Bilgewater
Well going by real world animal behaviors I would say Sea Monsters are more likely to recognize ships as hunters and attack in self-defense. However in fantasyland there is no reason why a group of sea monsters can’t recognize a ship as full of potential food, except for the fact that I can’t imagine a sea monster gets much out of even a modest crew of humans.
: > [{quoted}](name=WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=E2l2jdV5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-05T15:54:38.368+0000) > > It’s hard to say how Viktor would comprehend the void. As it stands he would probably dismiss tales of the Void as old legends or rumors, but I can imagine him being absolutely fascinated if he were to acquire a specimen for research purposes. > > Due to his rather cold nature regarding the mechanics of life he would probably take a clinical fascination with the void, but I sooner see him thinking that mechanization of humans is one of the only routes to victory against the void sounds like an overall loss if existence costs free will i'm pretty sure you could make a brighter tomorrow happen
Well Victor would disagree with you as it seems like he’s not a huge fan of “free will”.
: Would viktor surrender to the void if it meant his glorious evolution would succeed?
It’s hard to say how Viktor would comprehend the void. As it stands he would probably dismiss tales of the Void as old legends or rumors, but I can imagine him being absolutely fascinated if he were to acquire a specimen for research purposes. Due to his rather cold nature regarding the mechanics of life he would probably take a clinical fascination with the void, but I sooner see him thinking that mechanization of humans is one of the only routes to victory against the void
: Which Champion's Designs/Gimmicks are out of touch in your opinion?
I think your thoughts on Kayla are colored by preconceptions of the symbolism of armor. While fancy looking armor can be a sign of strength, it’s also a common idea for characters to shed armor that is restrictive of them. Lacking armor can imply strength through it’s implied arrogance. It’s also inaccurate to say she’s a total fanatic, after all she takes heavily after her mother, and is in fact inspired by her. That’s a pretty humanizing element to her story. As for Wu and Yi I will only day that Wukong isn’t quite the copy of Sun Wukong that he was, or used to be.
darkdill (NA)
: I hope that you aren't replacing Vic Mignogna's Lee Sin lines because of his current issues
: Come on Riot, April Fool's was like two months ago
Oh so this is another ridiculous “SJWs are ruinin’ ma vidya” post
Composure (EUNE)
: > Eh, I can’t say much about Dio, but Zuko isn’t really like Qiyana. Zuko is an emotionally manipulated and physically abused child with a desperate need to prove himself. You watch Zuko because you want to see how he can redeem himself or how his character changes. To be honest at first I thought that I should compare her more to Azula because they're both similar. But I decided to go with Zuko because he also wanted to be respected by others just like her and later I thought I could also compare Qiyana to Azula as well, but I decided to skip it because the post already was really long :D > Qiyana is a villain. She’s ruthless, power-hungry, and motivated. We can infer from her opinions of her parents that they are kind, law abiding people. Qiyana has the ego of Draven, but she isn’t necessarily a glory hound. Draven wants to be famous, but doesn’t really care for responsibility and is subservient to his superiors. Qiyana is much more ambitious, she wants to rule a nation that has remained secluded because she believes this seclusion is weakness. She also believes that, if she were in charge, she could thrust Ixtaocan onto the world stage. I don't know if I could call her a villain, selfish yes, but not a villain. Her motives ain't evil/bad but they're not developed/written well. You see she believes that seclusion is weakness, but she doesn't say why this is weakness there's no real explanation why she thinks like that. it's if someone said that League is a terrible game without explanation. > Wether or not she’s right about her ruling capabilities is irrelevant. What is interesting about her is her cunning. She has nine older sisters to contend with for the throne, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to secure her spot. In that way u can see her as a non-giving up character, but again this is {{champion:246}} we're talking about. One of the reasons why I choose Zuko over Azula is this: Qiyana does things cos she can do them but does she really want to? like Zuko he can kill Avatar but does he want to? > Characters like Zuko or Dio don’t serve so much as comparisons because they’re not really great templates for characters. She’s more like a Julius figure drumming up grassroots support for her eventual overthrow of the State. The thing is both Dio and Zuko are very well written characters they are believable. Qiyana does not feel that way. A good character always can trick our brains into thinking at least for a moment that this is a real person and not just fictional character. Basically Zuko/Dio are characters with believable personalities and Qiyana is just a plot device made for the introduction of a new region. At least I think that way.
I’m really not sure how you don’t see her as a character, from reading your other comments I gather you have a poor idea of what is character development. Qiyana has solid reasons to be the way she is. She also makes character defining choices that are in line with her personality.
Composure (EUNE)
: I don't understand why are u disliked you're right :D
Composure (EUNE)
: Qiyana is boring character in the lore. (Very long post)
Eh, I can’t say much about Dio, but Zuko isn’t really like Qiyana. Zuko is an emotionally manipulated and physically abused child with a desperate need to prove himself. You watch Zuko because you want to see how he can redeem himself or how his character changes. Qiyana is a villain. She’s ruthless, power-hungry, and motivated. We can infer from her opinions of her parents that they are kind, law abiding people. Qiyana has the ego of Draven, but she isn’t necessarily a glory hound. Draven wants to be famous, but doesn’t really care for responsibility and is subservient to his superiors. Qiyana is much more ambitious, she wants to rule a nation that has remained secluded because she believes this seclusion is weakness. She also believes that, if she were in charge, she could thrust Ixtaocan onto the world stage. Wether or not she’s right about her ruling capabilities is irrelevant. What is interesting about her is her cunning. She has nine older sisters to contend with for the throne, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to secure her spot. Characters like Zuko or Dio don’t serve so much as comparisons because they’re not really great templates for characters. She’s more like a Julius figure drumming up grassroots support for her eventual overthrow of the State.
Socholo (NA)
: Bard Origins: A Journey Through Africa? [THE UPDATED VERSION]
League could do with more Sub-Saharan African influence
: Shuriman mortal army equipment: Concepts, ideas, and what we know so far
Well thought-out, high effort post. I’m not a big weapons/military guy so I can’t really add much, but this seems well researched as well
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Aatrox is by far the most powerful of the Darkin, a being stated to have killed spirit gods before. Despite his tremendous power, Aatrox can defeat Mordekaiser with a large enough supply of bodies regardless of the presence of Mordekaiser's army. More importantly, Aatrox may have a way to permanently slay Mordekaiser by severing him from Mitna Rachnun; as he says himself, he does not bring "death", but "oblivion". And no, Mordekaiser can certainly not take on all of the five remaining Darkin by himself at once. And no, _Mordekaiser can most definitely not survive the Void_. Don't overestimate his capabilities.
That bit on Aatrox having enough bodies feels like a weak line of reasoning as it’s just giving Aatrox more power. It’s a bit more relevant in the army matchup, but I could say the same but for Mordekaiser. There are multiple ways to interpret that quote. Aatrox could be referring to his overall goal of bringing about the end of all things, or simply gassing himself up. I could say that, since we know Darkin can be rendered to their weapon form and destroyed/suppressed (since Kayn could hypothetically do it to Rhaast), it would be a simple matter for Mordekaiser to pick up the weapon. Trying to definitively say one can take on the other just quashes discussion without any actual evidence, since this whole thing is based on conjecture anyway.
: Don't know about that. I seriously doubt Mordekaiser can destroy a curse made from celestial magic by the Aspect Of Twilight. We all know that the Aspect of Twilight is one of the most powerful beings in the universe that can affect the world on a global scale unlike Morde. Neither does Morde because necromancy and spirit magic won't cut it and again, the curse was made with celestial magic. You're overrestimating Mordekaiser's capabilities. Mordekaiser won't be able to handle even two and even more, three celestial/sun powered god warriors. Sure but Aatrox would use and meld his army into his own and improve his form even more. He would become gigantic and then he'll be able to take care of the army of ghosts and Morde.
We don’t know how Morde’s Necromancy interacts with Celestial magic. For all we know Morde could imprison a Darkin weapon in his own Shadow realm and render it moot. Edit: Morde could probably wield a Darkin weapon
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Haven't seen a bigger lowballing the darkin. These 5 darkins needed Targon influence and celestial power to bind their magic into their weapons. Mordekaiser was stopped by Black Rose. 2 aspects had active role in their defeat. Mordekaiser's enemies were LeBlanc and Vladimir so far. Mordekaiser is powerful and perhaps a worthy oppenent against any darkin in 1v1 but saying he can definitely take 3 of them at the same time is delusional. Saying he can destroy a darkin weapon even more delusional when they are said to be near destructible that so far only the Void is capable of it.
Fair enough I definitely misjudged the Darkin, but it’s difficult to say that the involvement of celestial magic trumps anything Morde can throw up. This is an interesting topic because there’s not really an official power level assigned to any of these characters.
: Aatrox vs Mordekaiser
Well I’m going to give Mordekaiser the edge due to his knowledge in magic. Aatrox’ Blood magic can’t really affect the Tinhead, and if anyone can understand and use magic powerful enough to destroy a Darkin, it would be Mordekaiser. I somehowe doubt that’s Aatrox has the magical know-how to permanently destroy Mordekaiser, if even just killing Mordekaiser is possible. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Mordekaiser could take on all five of the Darkin, at the very least, the three we’ve already seen. As for the respective armies, I’ll give that to Mordekaiser. Army of ghosts tends to outmatch army of thralls.
EdgeLady (NA)
: Qiyana did give off the impression of disregarding life, but I wasn't sure Riot would go this far with her. They're definitely trying to give her a backstory akin to Prince Hans; hopefully she'll end up as a more fleshed out character that he was (at least in his first appearance).
Well she fits the power hungry ruler bill in that regard. A few lives probably don’t concern her especially when they’re people who scorned her.
: still a bitch. still hate her.
Okay thanks for the titillating (mildly sexist?) discourse friendo.
: I have much the same views as you regarding qiyana. I was hesitant to see an obvious character development to maturity, and this Caligula/Azula characterization fits way better (hell, even DRAVEN would agree she has too much of an ego). as for Malphite, I like they kept him being a shard of a greater whole. while I did enjoy his character, I do think it could be better with an updated bio (which we get tomorrow I believe?)
Yeah the short bio was informative but I too would like more on Malphite. Where did all the other shards go for starters.
Rioter Comments
: How do people/champions in Runeterra cope with PTSD (or avoid it, entirely)?
Because trauma is relative. Runeterra is a much more chaotic/violent place than our world, and PTSD is the name of a specific condition that we still don’t really understand. Also, some people just aren’t affected by things. Methinks the same sort of people who we call champions may also be made of sterner stuff.
Dyromic (EUNE)
: Unpopular opinion: Qiyana is a waste of the Elementalist (Avatar) fantasy
Well she is the only one to use multiple elements. And I feel like she compares pretty well to the other human mages. A color story would probably show off some more abilities, but I think her kit already does a good job. Considering that she is an assassin rather than a mage.
: The Pantheon rework
I agree with Warlord here. I think another two voices in one champ would run too derivative of Kayn/Rhaast
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