: This Needs to be Changed.
.... You get a FREE champ every time you level. You're complaining about not getting FREE champs fast enough on the FREE game you're playing. Perhaps spend $20 and get everything you need while supporting the company that makes the FREE game, you're playing.
xelaker (NA)
: Does anyone remember that mana used to be a thing you had to manage?
> [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LK8ltwZL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-18T15:36:31.273+0000) > > Ya'll are acting like riot is taking away your ability to use the mouse...mid season riot is gonna try and fix the acd mess they made, be patient then have a bitchfit if it falls through And its REALLY hard for adcs to auto attack and do half everyones hp AMIRITE?
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Ducasi (NA)
: So after the upcoming nerfs to mages, the only viable champs will be even more just tanks and adcs?
Chortle (NA)
: Zyra has been a disappointment @RiotRepertoir
> [{quoted}](name=Chortle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7Ov6feHE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-16T16:34:48.602+0000) > > The current Zyra is a shell of what she used to be. > > Current issues plaguing Zyra (mid/sup/jung): > > 1. Low plant health allows enemies to negate a large portion of her damage. > 2. Lack of magic pen in runes and items. > 3. Awkward Q shape causes her to have farming issues when compared to the old circle design. > 4. Early game only champion (not even that good compared to other early game champs). > > > Suggestions for change: > > 1. Replace her new Q with the old circle shape but add the increased size for plant spawn. > -This will allow her to more reliably clear minions in mid/jung camps and have almost no retaliation for supp. > > 2. Shift power into her abilities instead of her plants. > > -Give her some decent scaling AP ratios to her abilities. Gut her plants. Give them debuff abilities or have their damage amp up over time instead of allowing them to be dispatched so readily by her enemies. This would allow zyra players to feel more impactful when landing abilities and give enemies the chance to disengage before her plants increase in power (damage or debuff increase). > This also would have the potential to spice up her builds. With more scaling, she possibly wouldn't need as much magic pen until late game like other mages. > > {{champion:143}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:143}} > I think many Zyra players are feeling frustrated right now. I have detailed my thoughts on how some issues could be addressed, but more than anything I would like a discussion from Riot regarding the issue. The plants seem to be a huge mess currently. More insight into your thoughts on how they could be balanced or how much they impact her design would be appreciated. > > {{champion:143}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:143}} this this this this this
: Haven't been excited about anything league related since Zoe.
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Onotori (NA)
: What is the point of a mage?
> [{quoted}](name=Konotori,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fhtYB0Az,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-04T07:47:03.938+0000) > > I just honestly don't know why I bother playing them. > > * ADCs burst much harder and have higher sustained damage, plus they have lifesteal out the ass and no cooldowns, skillshots or resources. > > * Assassins are infinitely more mobile and do much higher damage, plus they can build Death's Dance to heal. > > * Tanks have better CC and a lot do more sustained damage, plus MR is infinitely more effective than armor and, unless you're playing Azir or Kayle, you basically can't hurt a tank while building AP. > > * Divers do more damage while being much tankier with better CC. > > ... What the fuck do mages even do better than anyone? Only time AP is even viable is if you're playing a champ that literally one shots (or a support) -- otherwise you're just intentionally gimping yourself and trolling your team. > > And yet, we pretend Riot gives a damn about balance. THIS. The only people down voting are tanks/adc's/bruisers that don't want mages to be buffed
Lesba Zyra (EUNE)
: CG riot. You have finally destroyed midlane Zyra
> [{quoted}](name=Lesba Zyra,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9FuMtqJf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-31T11:42:57.647+0000) > > Greetings, > > **first of all. Let me introduce myself. ** > > I am OTP midlane Zyra from season 3 and you can know me as Lesbian Zyra (Lesba Zyra, Zyra x Lissandra .etc). Yes. I'Ve been playing midlane/top/jungle and adc Zyra for 4 season in a row. And yes, I never ever play supp Zyra, because of her release. I've get in love to play her as a mage and a midlane champion. I am from EUNE, but I've got to use NA forum, since nobody listen to EUNE forums anyway, because of its toxicity level. I've managed to hit master every single season. The previous season I've been able to hit [challenger](https://i.imgur.com/OjF9P9c.jpg) too. I've got around 4KK masteries with Zyra, if I will count all of my accounts. So in the end, I've managed to get over 5 000 games with Zyra. > > Anyway this season started fine. I had something around master 100 lp and 62% winrate, playing with challenger players .etc It was alright. Once the patch that changed liandry into a crap item, it forced my elo and my mmr to rapidly go down. I've been able to drop from [Master 100 lp to Dia 4](https://i.imgur.com/g3Tpl4n.jpg) in a simple week. > > **Now I've heard Riot's opinion about new Liandry. ** > > They say that the item is stronger against tanks now. And I say that's not truth at all. Sure 10% dps is fine against tanks, since flat magic pene is useless against tanks anyway, BUT. The dot is really weak, especially for poke machines like Zyra. Actually this dot is 50% less effective for poke. Did you ever think about tanks and their magic resistance? Since the mask deals only magic dmg, they just simply build mr to counter this item. So in the end, you've got only 0.5% dmg per second against tanks. You know how bad that feels? 0.5% dmg per second? The old mask had 1% if you will count all those MR items. Sure, the new liandry is stronger against target with 50% and less dmg. Anyway who plays for that? You've got to shrink their HP, so you can use burst for targets that have 50% less. > > Also since the liandry has lost its early magic pene, it has no longer to be usefull as 1st item. And that has nerfed Zyra a lot. Without situation item like the old liandry, she has no chance to fight against RoD, early mr abusers (abyssal mask), mercury, hexdrinker .etc If you would like to play for flat pene, you've got to buy ORB. Sure, you can say, that I've had to face those builds with the old liandry too. Anyway there was a good dot to be used and I could buy void staff with that. New Morello isn't good item for Zyra, because of its missing DOT. Zyra needs additional item do deal dmg and she needs flat magic penetration, because of her weak ap ratios. > > **So what's the current problem of Zyra?** > > _She still needs flat magic penetration to deal decent dmg._ Without that, I feel like my numbers don't hit at all. And we all know that Riot isn't playing around flat magic penetration, so she needs something to scale. She needs better ap ratios or some scale power like AS modification for plants or something like that. I've got an idea to give her flat magic penetration scale. Or just give her some % hp dmg. There is a lot of ways how to buff MIDLANE Zyra. > > _Also there is a problem about her secondary role - support._ I don't know, how did you allow Zyra to become a support champion over midlane. It's same with Brand. You've managed to push Annie back into midlane. So why not Zyra? Why not Brand? You've got to give them something special as a midlane champions. And that's scale. A special scale that counts with creeps. Yes. Zyra has got W reset, but that's not enough. Plants are weak and has no dmg against MR targets and HP targets. > > _So we've got another problem and that's her plants._ Almost every champion is able to one-shot them or just simply ignore them, because of their weak dmg. They feel like a garbage gold sack. That's all. Did you try to play as Zyra vs Kayle, Corki, Orianna, Vlad, Singed .etc? And I am not even talking about her high counters like Zed, LeBlanc and any assasins mostly. > > _Her passive is strong early, weak late_ Why? Because of late game plants with are simply one-shot by everything, since everyone has items, cdr .etc to spam auto-attacks and abilites. > > _Also her spells are clunky and old_ For example her **E**. The super slow skillshot that has 0.75s duration at level 1 and weak ap ratio of 0.5 scale? What's that? A joke? > **Q** Can you nerf it to its old circle Q? It was definitely better, because of poke. Now you are rarely able to hit that, because players ain't just walking to sides. They are walking forward and backward, so I don't get your opinion about Q + E sinergy. You think they are going to just go right and left to get hit by her E that roots them for 0.75s? Also it's weaker for clear. you need to go side to use its all hitbox with forces you to get in a danger. Also can you give it back its range? It's really clunky, because of W's sinergy. Sometimes Zyra just plants W or Q, instead of doing both. > > **Result** > > Zyra has become only early champion with depends on enemy builds, because of MR. She is super squishy and her plants are useless against a lot of champions, because of one-shotting. Her abilities have no scale and are out-dated. Her core item {{item:3151}} was nerfed a lot, especially early and poke. And she is still counted as a support champion only with is sick. > > So I hope you @Medler is going to read that or any of riot's balance team, because I've got no motivation to play Zyra anymore. And mostly the league itself, because I just love playing midlane Zyra only. > > also you know what's sad? That my strongest build is now on-hit Zyra. Wit's end, nashoor, rageblade .etc, because everything else is simply without dmg. THIS THIS THIS THIS
: Constantly Getting Penalized For Game Freezing
Throw that MAC garbage out and get a REAL gaming PC.
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Lavenora (EUW)
: A new Star Guardian team: Ashe - Sona - Irelia - Zoe - Caitlyn
Yeah NO. I'll be damned if zoe gets a star guardian skin before Zyra.
: Reminder that Lulu's shield duration is longer than the shield CD
> [{quoted}](name=Dead flag blues,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RE0AamGa,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-26T16:46:24.727+0000) > > And that she has the most cancerous spells of the game in her kit She does need a nerf BAD
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: New Star Guardian Ideas?!
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: People troll without saying a single word and don't get banned
How in the WORLD can Riot catch this behavior and punish it without me taking an hour to record, and upload a video of it and send in a email showing the behavior to riot, who will takes 18 weeks to actually view it, because I can't post it on the forums because it would be considered " name shaming/player shaming "
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Δkαshι (EUNE)
: Katarina's ward jump
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Kronoff (NA)
: Is there a way to track player ban status?
> [{quoted}](name=Kronoff,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EK3wQae3,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-13T02:12:24.861+0000) > > So if I know the username of a player, is there a way to track if that player got banned or what type of action was taken against them? They made death threats towards me in quite graphic detail, and I was curious how much of a punishment they will receive. Mostly curious due to a 14 day ban I got for sarcastically saying kys to someone else once, which I get they don't like that word but I figured it's internet slang/culture of insults so I was surprised with how severe it was, but I understood so just rolled with it. > > I will be very tilted if a legitimate death threat would be treated less severe. Why would you not just mute them instead of throwing a temper tantrum and crying on the forums?
shoe6535 (NA)
: can i mute myself
> [{quoted}](name=shoe6535,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vGXjwaLh,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-12T22:38:27.194+0000) > > i got a 14d ban like a week ago for toxcicity and ive made a new account and im still toxic and just cant help myself from flaming people when they do dum stuff so is there any way i can just mute myself from chatting because i really dont want to get perm banned{{champion:32}} {{champion:32}} Lmao I feel this so much
: 'Kill urself lol'
You should probably get psychiatric help if someone's internet words hurts your feelings.
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: "Featured Streamer"
> [{quoted}](name=Reng Wo Men,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RxzEb1Eu,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-13T00:49:18.884+0000) > > Is it just me or is every "featured streamer" a wretched e-hoe? Where them bois at? maybe you should hop on grinder and find out since you're so interested in penis.
: 4 out of 5 ultimate skins have been given to female champions
> [{quoted}](name=L Psy Congroo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jr3wE7Av,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-13T00:58:55.121+0000) > > Rito pls, your sexism is showing. female champs are better death with it cake boy.
Kythers (NA)
: I report people for elo boosting and scripting only and get 0 ban feedback RIOT PLEASE BAN ACTUAL CHEATERS NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT TOXIC PLAYERS
> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wV3AknA1,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-03-12T18:37:00.947+0000) > > I report people for elo boosting and scripting only and get 0 ban feedback > > RIOT PLEASE BAN ACTUAL CHEATERS NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT TOXIC PLAYERS
: > [{quoted}](name=Demon Empress,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fmi51dXv,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:38:37.581+0000) > > It's not about me. It's about anyone. It's not even about excuses. > It's about an overly controlling policy that severely punishes chat but very rarely punishes gameplay. It should be the opposite no? > > What's worse? A whiny crybaby on your team yelling at you or a player that decided that he's gonna just start inting your enemy laner for each lane while trying to take your CS. Then don't say "there's a mute button" because that means you're attacking the fact you were punished for speech. And gameplay can't really be punished now because the automated system can't read context and tribunal was ruined by other players. And it doesn't matter what the answer to your question is because the system can only punish one of those.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fmi51dXv,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:52:55.919+0000) > > Then don't say "there's a mute button" because that means you're attacking the fact you were punished for speech. And gameplay can't really be punished now because the automated system can't read context and tribunal was ruined by other players. > > And it doesn't matter what the answer to your question is because the system can only punish one of those. Guys Busty Demoness was wondering if she can have free skins for having breasts.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warrior Princess,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:49:24.886+0000) > > *MOMMY SOMEONES WRONG ON THE INTERNET AND MY FEELINGS ARE HURT* If you can not engage in debate beyond red herring and other low-tier plays like what you've consistently shown. You don't deserve a debate. Not like you're looking for one anyway so it's not like anything of value is even remotely lost. And also, it's kind of funny how you're the most butthurt in this thread despite the theme is supposedly about combating butthurt or whatever you think you're doing. And worse, you're butthurt at the imaginary prospect of an imaginary individual getting butthurt. Just lol.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0006000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:56:39.624+0000) > > If you can not engage in debate beyond red herring and other low-tier plays like what you've consistently shown. You don't deserve a debate. Not like you're looking for one anyway so it's not like anything of value is even remotely lost. > > And also, it's kind of funny how you're the most butthurt in this thread despite the theme is supposedly about combating butthurt or whatever you think you're doing. And worse, you're butthurt at the imaginary prospect of an imaginary individual getting butthurt. Just lol. I'm laughing hysterically over here. You are the epitome of the word "snowflake"
: > [{quoted}](name=Warrior Princess,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:41:21.920+0000) > > but but I *JUST WANT FREE SKINZ FOR BEING A BUSTY DEMONESS AND BARON OF BUXOM!* Advertise yourself as Xena or Sivir and perhaps you'll get some gifts.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:55:05.176+0000) > > Advertise yourself as Xena or Sivir and perhaps you'll get some gifts. BUT GUISE I HAVE BEWBS!!!!
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ADC Bard,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:41:16.575+0000) > > there is no such thing as cyber bullying. > > All you have to do is stop talking to the "cyber bully" or just step away from the computer > > BANG > > {{champion:432}} There is no such thing as murder and whatever that may or may not disturb you with its death count either, all you have to do is stop watching news or just step away from all forms of information technology and social events. Bang.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:48:30.927+0000) > > There is no such thing as murder and whatever that may or may not disturb you either, all you have to do is stop watching news or just step away from all forms of information technology and social events. > > Bang. *MOMMY SOMEONES WRONG ON THE INTERNET AND MY FEELINGS ARE HURT*
ADC Bard (NA)
: there is no such thing as cyber bullying. All you have to do is stop talking to the "cyber bully" or just step away from the computer BANG {{champion:432}}
> [{quoted}](name=ADC Bard,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:41:16.575+0000) > > there is no such thing as cyber bullying. > > All you have to do is stop talking to the "cyber bully" or just step away from the computer > > BANG > > {{champion:432}} thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
: How I picture what the League community looks like irl:
but but I *JUST WANT FREE SKINZ FOR BEING A BUSTY DEMONESS AND BARON OF BUXOM!*
: How I picture what the League community looks like irl:
: > [{quoted}](name=Warrior Princess,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:33:04.484+0000) > > *GUISE IM BUSTY IRL. ADD ME AND BUY ME SKINS BECAUSE MY NAME IMPLIES I HAVE LARGE BREASTS IRL, IM DEFINITELY NOT ALSO 200+ POUNDS* Attacking my username and assuming my practices pretty much proves my second sentence correct.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:34:25.306+0000) > > Attacking my username and assuming my practices pretty much proves my second sentence correct. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/594/533/54d.jpg
: Pretty sure it wasn't simply you telling them "buy a ward" that got you punished. Based on your post, you're also extremely sensitive to the idea that you're more abrasive than you believe you are.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:31:25.810+0000) > > Pretty sure it wasn't simply you telling them "buy a ward" that got you punished. > > Based on your post, you're also extremely sensitive to the idea that you're more abrasive than you believe you are. *GUISE IM BUSTY IRL. ADD ME AND BUY ME SKINS BECAUSE MY NAME IMPLIES I HAVE LARGE BREASTS IRL, IM DEFINITELY NOT ALSO 200+ POUNDS*
: Idk why they deleted it, but you were talking about toxicity and getting banned on the gameplay board. Could be the first clue. Real rocket science. If you're interested in discussing [player behavior, this board may be what you want.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation) Lol this is your 3rd topic on the same thing, you sure you're not the crybaby? I did enjoy the show while it lasted.
> [{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=otkXE9QX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-12T19:29:45.453+0000) > > Idk why they deleted it, but you were talking about toxicity and getting banned on the gameplay board. Could be the first clue. Real rocket science. If you're interested in discussing [player behavior, this board may be what you want.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation) > > Lol this is your 3rd topic on the same thing, you sure you're not the crybaby? I did enjoy the show while it lasted. https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/south-park-wow-guy-600x337.jpg
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: Reminder that Riot's policy on toxicity is bad
Careful, riot will delete your thread like they just did to mine. I posted almost the exact same post 20 minutes ago: https://imgur.com/a/TxQo0
: Being a support and the cost of items
Let me rephrase this. MAGE-support items.
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: kaisa is junk
She is horrible. Everyone saying she isnt is just a happy overpowered adc that doesnt want her to get on their level.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warrior Princess,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cMNqbsVR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-11T01:47:54.259+0000) > > < removed by moderation > Many recent champs were thought to be released UP, but then became monsters after buff because they were never UP to begin with but rather people just hadn't figured them out yet at the time of just being released. We do not need yet another reenactment of that. Just because a champ was not released in the same level of gamebreaking-ness as someone as hilariously broken like Zoe, doesn't automatically mean this champ is severely underpowered and needs immediate buffs.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cMNqbsVR,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-03-11T01:54:54.305+0000) > > Many recent champs were thought to be released UP, but then became monsters after buff because they were never UP to begin with but rather people just hadn&#x27;t figured them out yet at the time of just being released. > > We do not need yet another reenactment of that. > > Just because a champ was not released in the same level of gamebreaking-ness as someone as hilariously broken like Zoe, doesn&#x27;t automatically mean this champ is severely underpowered and needs immediate buffs. If you actually owned her and played her you wouldnt be typing this BS. Give it a rest.
Rexxiee (NA)
: Riot if you want Kai sa to be weak early and scale, thats fine.
> [{quoted}](name=Rexxiee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tVFPOx65,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-10T18:45:16.106+0000) > > But then her base range needs to also scale somehow. > > Make it so she gains 25 aa range for every ability upgrade? So late game she can get 550 or up to 575 range, would not change her first 20 mins or so. > > She just needs way better scaling to warrant her current trash tier early game on every lane/jungle and range late game would help her a lot. Everyone downvoting this is just trying to screw her over because they are happy kicking her ass. She NEEDS buffs. Period.
: How are such toxic and sour players allowed to get off without so much as a mark?
> [{quoted}](name=PopcornBunni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z7YWjpfG,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-10T23:07:29.465+0000) > > &amp;quot;GGEZ&amp;quot; should be a straight bannable offense. Not a warning, not a final notice, a fucking ban. These people ruin the game. You are so sensitive it actually grosses me out. You should stick to single player games if something like that actually upsets you.
: She's weak for the same reason Kayle isn't very good. Itemization for heavy AP-AS takes way too long to get going. This would probably be Kai'Sa's best build if it was actually reasonable to get going, because Plasma scales really hard with AP. {{item:3124}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3146}} Good luck building this in a reasonable amount of time. She doesn't really do anything with AD/crit that all the other auto-focused hypercarries can't do already.
> [{quoted}](name=Tèrminus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YAFWE29H,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-11T01:32:01.822+0000) > > She&#x27;s weak for the same reason Kayle isn&#x27;t very good. Itemization for heavy AP-AS takes way too long to get going. This would probably be Kai&#x27;Sa&#x27;s best build if it was actually reasonable to get going, because Plasma scales really hard with AP. > > {{item:3124}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3146}} Good luck building this in a reasonable amount of time. > > She doesn&#x27;t really do anything with AD/crit that all the other auto-focused hypercarries can&#x27;t do already. this
Rexxiee (NA)
: Can we get another kai sa hotfix buff?
> [{quoted}](name=Rexxiee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YAFWE29H,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-10T23:38:41.362+0000) > > Her wr went from 39~40% to 40~41% with her last &quot;buff&quot;, basically it didnt do anything. > > Hotfix in some 50 + attack range and then maybe she&amp;#039;ll break 45% wr, just maybe because her kit still sucks but she&amp;#039;d have playable range atleast. Yes. She NEEDS a buff.
: By the nature of how ADCs operate, kaisa is destined to be perma garbage with her current range
> [{quoted}](name=Tychusfindlay918,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yELVj1Xf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-10T20:03:16.763+0000) > > The ADC game is a game of effective ranges, and hers is waaaaaayyyy too low. Yes she has abilities that can transcend her auto range, but they&amp;#039;re nothing in comparison to other range extending things like clean cuts from xayah. > > Kaisa will permanently be garbage unless riot decides to omegabuff her numbers so she just stomps people in spite of that weakness. I agree 100%
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