Rioter Comments
: Patch 9.16 notes
Sylas has been thriving in the jungle after his latest set of changes. Following up on those by toning down his clear speed a bit. Oh no, how could this happen! The mid-laner we have been nerfing and changing for 6 patches now had to resort to jungle??? Well can't let diversity happen! Meanwhile im a silver player and had to watch my team lose to a Brand jungle about 3 times. GG Riot, delete Sylas at this point. You might be thinking that "oh ur silver thats y u lost hur dur". My question to that would be why can brand passably jungle in the first place if Sylas can't.
: That's not all you said, and its certainly not the first time you would have been reported. You don't get multiple game chat restrictions for 1 sentence that is even directly addressing a player.
Not true. I got reported successfully in a ranked game once because I was shotcalling. Our Lucian did something really dumb and all I said was that he could've done it better or something. I didn't insult the guy at all and I still got reported.
: kayle is easier to play i think i don't think she's as strong as vayne or late game adcs in general her damage is easy to avoid and shes very squishy, adcs build bloodthirster and can get tankier for a bit
So why play Kayle in the first place? From that reasoning..she is just worse.
: Off-meta ideas for botlane / support.
A funny off meta ADC can be Thresh, but its kinda hard to do without being troll. Basically full AD thresh for the E passive. An off meta support I try is Lissandra. I build her kinda tanky, and with an Iceborn Gauntlet.
Rioter Comments
: Why is there only 1 AD Support Champion?
Think of it this way. With the items that are currently in the game, name one AD item that would be nice on a support. Oh, and before you name it, it can't be an item that coincides with an AD carry or bruiser...cause then its just an AD carry or bruiser. Kinda simple. If youre the one building for damage, then are you really the support.
: Riot, if you're not going to put all the effort into updating old skins to match their price...
It also doesn't help when they made some skins unreasonably good out of the blue. Some make sense, like the silver kayle skin, since it was an OG. But then they redo Morgana, right after they stripped exiled off the market. (Note, as far as i know its gone, had to look up how to get it cause i wanted it really badly) And coincidence, becomes a really cool skin with a nice theme and pretty good visuals. But now i cant even get it. Whats ironic is i read that they took it off market because no one liked it compared to her others. Now Mordekaiser's recolor skins are suddenly getting their own personalities and yet their visuals are still recolor status. All those skins, and none are even what i would consider "epic", even Pentakill sucks right now.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-14T22:11:38.891+0000) > > alright thats cool and all, but what about the fact that you kinda just went hostile for no reason because you couldnt answer that lethal tempo isnt used top lane If by "Hostile" you mean I disproved your point then sure, I was hostile. We were talking about bruisers, not about top laners. You also mentioned that a bruiser keystone was broken while you were trying to tell me that bruisers have no good keystones, which ISN'T helping your argument. I'm not hostile, you're just wrong. Sorry.
> [{quoted}](name=CloakAndGrenade,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T16:28:03.113+0000) > > If by "Hostile" you mean I disproved your point then sure, I was hostile. We were talking about bruisers, not about top laners. You also mentioned that a bruiser keystone was broken while you were trying to tell me that bruisers have no good keystones, which ISN'T helping your argument. > > I'm not hostile, you're just wrong. Sorry. 1) you didnt really disprove anything 2) do you consider it good if the only bruiser keystone was being abused by other roles than bruisers 3) you should probably just not try the "youre just wrong" thing, makes you look more like an ass
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2019-04-10T20:32:53.699+0000) > > what top laners use lethal tempo, and do you remember the time when they fucked conqueror so hard even adcs and mages could run it? Bruisers are not unique to top lane. Xin Zhou is a bruiser and is in the jungle. And yes, Conqueror was broken for about a patch and a half. The bruiser keystone was broken. You're not helping your case here.
> [{quoted}](name=CloakAndGrenade,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2019-04-13T18:46:56.086+0000) > > Bruisers are not unique to top lane. Xin Zhou is a bruiser and is in the jungle. And yes, Conqueror was broken for about a patch and a half. The bruiser keystone was broken. You're not helping your case here. alright thats cool and all, but what about the fact that you kinda just went hostile for no reason because you couldnt answer that lethal tempo isnt used top lane
: as a lux main who has laned against a slew of zeds I only ever lost by getting out played or misplaying never because I thought zed was broken. i actually enjoy dodging skill shots so when i get hit by someones combo i should take a lot of dmg why should you not be punished if you get hit by a full combo?
: > [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sRfwEfsb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-10T11:12:19.165+0000) > > that and she is still kind of overpowered ever since her update She isn’t that strong. Especially comparing her to the monsters that exist right now that riot say “haven’t crossed the op line” yet.
"ever since her update" did i miss the part where they never touched her shield or Q?
Rustypug (NA)
: unpopular opinion
hottest girl tho {{champion:421}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Laufplanke,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-10T10:44:52.941+0000) > > "Bruises have literally no good keystone" > > Riot: "Haha, lol, yes they don't." Conqueror? Aftershock? (literally changed to give base stats instead of % stats so that it could be useful on bruisers) Lethal Tempo? (literally doubled duration for melee champions specifically for bruisers). Press the attack is also viable on a few, so is fleet footwork and electrocute. I can't think of any other role that can viably opt into more keystones. Fuck, Darius can even take Phase Rush my dude, and it's a nightmare to deal with if he can get to you.
> [{quoted}](name=CloakAndGrenade,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-04-10T18:33:05.014+0000) > > Conqueror? Aftershock? (literally changed to give base stats instead of % stats so that it could be useful on bruisers) Lethal Tempo? (literally doubled duration for melee champions specifically for bruisers). Press the attack is also viable on a few, so is fleet footwork and electrocute. > > I can't think of any other role that can viably opt into more keystones. Fuck, Darius can even take Phase Rush my dude, and it's a nightmare to deal with if he can get to you. what top laners use lethal tempo, and do you remember the time when they fucked conqueror so hard even adcs and mages could run it?
: Considering there are quite a bunch of ranged champions who are _supposed_ to go top as their main position, yeah, you kinda have to live with ranged top laners being a thing. {{champion:6}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:133}} (Yes, Vlad is one of them who is supposed to be a top laner) I agree that they should get rid of Vayne top, tho.
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5NnEB3QB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-10T11:01:07.810+0000) > > Considering there are quite a bunch of ranged champions who are _supposed_ to go top as their main position, yeah, you kinda have to live with ranged top laners being a thing. > {{champion:6}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:8}} > (Yes, Vlad is one of them who is supposed to be a top laner) > > I agree that they should get rid of Vayne top, tho. isnt it funny how everyone hates all five of them?
: As one of the few people that actually owns silver kayle, I'm cool with this, as long as those few of us get a border, or some other signal saying we're OGs. You know, like most of the original owners of limited skins have. I would overall prefer to stay unique in its ownership, but I'm ok with talking about alternative options.
You've been the most kind person that owns the skin. I mean, not everyone can help they weren't old enough to use a PC when it became unavailable.
nGio (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WNWQXRJW,comment-id=000c00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-06T04:08:54.241+0000) > > So to sum up your defense, you think I'm just a stubborn child that wants everything in the world. My apologies for not even being old enough to know how to play this game, unlike you. No one questioned your ability to play the game, so stop with the chicken shit Strawman. >And by the way, iI have given you examples for the good of everyone else Riot has screwed over, NOT myself. While yes, it would be awesome to have the skin, I am more concerned you think I'm just a selfish brat because you have your skin while other people got screwed. The skin was labeled as "Exclusive to Collector's Edition Retail Copy". Deal with it? >In truth, YOU are the one that is being selfish because you chose to view me as the problem, when Riot has already taken back this whole "never returning" thing on other people. But you don't want it to change because it is yours. If they do not get to be special, why do you? Go on, give me a good reason without having to say I am a child or selfish, and maybe I would listen to your point of view. So your entire argument hinges on "well they lied before, so they should lie again"? Do you scum your way through life with that pathetic viewpoint? Again, only a child would think that's okay or advocate dishonesty with more dishonesty. That's not fair to children. Only a bad person would do this. > > only goes to further prove you only want this to be special for you, and you don't care that you are part of a considerably small minority to own the skin. Just flaunting the fact you own it if you ask me, not actually giving good defense if you say Riot should only not lie to YOU. That's why I bought the COLLECTOR'S EDITION WITH LIMITED SKIN. Do you understand how collecting works? You see people displaying comic books/collectible toys/whatever? Yeah, they like that they have something cool that not everyone has access to. You say this like anyone who owns something limited is a bad person for having it. You live in a fucking convoluted upside down world kiddo. Guess what pal? I do all of the dumb side quests for meaningless icons too, because I just feel like collecting shit. You can do the events for icons too, or you can choose not to, and come back in a few years and bitch about how it's not fair to you. The bottom line is that you've wanted a decade old skin for a hot 15 minutes, so now it has to be yours, because you always throw those big tantrums and momma comes running. Someone should lie more to get you what you want, because momma always delivers. You don't understand that momma can't undo promises and commitments that were made before you got here, so you're pissed off at Riot, and at me, and at momma. Again, you're acting like an entitled brat who can't fathom the idea of someone telling you no.
Look, this is my last response to this, frankly cause it bothers me checking my updates just to see you always finding some way to call me a selfish brat. 1) I did not mean gameplay. I was not old enough to even play the game. I was 7 when this game started. Capiche? 2) It was not truly "exclusive" content. You played the normal game. There is nothing about the old copy that made it as special as you deem, because now, it is all the exact same thing, is it not? You bought the game. That is lovely, truly, its nice you were alive to be able to do so. But it had also been the time where the least people were even playing the game at all. I understand a thank you to the ones from the beginning, but there was nothing you did other than buying the game. Nothing exclusive. 3) Why must you insist on thinking the worst of me all because I feel like after 10 years people deserve to have a skin? Hell, I liked Kayle BEFORE the rework for a solid 2 years, but you seem to ASSUME I just wanted it cause it looked good. You are only assuming I'm some stubborn selfish brat, when I actually have liked the character from my beginning, which was not the same time as yours. I don't get the "momma" thing either, you really are just being the real child. So no, I'm not going to bother with this. If you think I'm just a whiney spoiled brat, fine. Think what you want. You are just a human being who has been alive longer than I, which makes you superior, atleast, in your perspective. Thank you for the one-sided mindset, but this has gone no where since you chose to belittle me by only calling me some selfish child without any thought. So sincerely we're done here, and remember, the one defending Riot CAN'T ever give your skin out ever again, versus the one saying after 10 years of game growth it should be shown to the world again... Seems someone that isn't me is being the selfish one, child. Good day.
nGio (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WNWQXRJW,comment-id=000c000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-05T21:42:46.189+0000) > > Investment? Oh! You got the game, meanwhile it isn't my decision this game is free. Sure. Keep going. > > If they keep making other skins return, why do you have to have this special authority over digital code? They screwed other players for their "never returning" purchases, why are you above them? You weren't here for the beta top 500 icon either! But if you were here, you'd definitely have been top 500, so maybe you should get that too! You deserve everything, regardless of previous limitations, because you said so. I never bought the beta supporter pack for Path of Exile, and that's not fair to me either! They should go back and sell it to me, because I deserve it and that's not fair. So because Riot has lied before, they should do it again? No. We've all missed out on shit in games, so suck it up and quit whining. Your entitlement is unbelievable.
So to sum up your defense, you think I'm just a stubborn child that wants everything in the world. My apologies for not even being old enough to know how to play this game, unlike you. And by the way, iI have given you examples for the good of everyone else Riot has screwed over, NOT myself. While yes, it would be awesome to have the skin, I am more concerned you think I'm just a selfish brat because you have your skin while other people got screwed. In truth, YOU are the one that is being selfish because you chose to view me as the problem, when Riot has already taken back this whole "never returning" thing on other people. But you don't want it to change because it is yours. If they do not get to be special, why do you? Go on, give me a good reason without having to say I am a child or selfish, and maybe I would listen to your point of view. Edit: one side note, "So because Riot has lied before, they should do it again? No. We've all missed out on shit in games, so suck it up and quit whining." only goes to further prove you only want this to be special for you, and you don't care that you are part of a considerably small minority to own the skin. Just flaunting the fact you own it if you ask me, not actually giving good defense if you say Riot should only not lie to YOU. Double Edit: Read the comments below this one, there is a viewpoint like yours that had their own reasoning, you can argue this with them too since you like the use of the word "entitlement".
: Wanting to nerf mid lane morg =/= only wanting her to support. Thats just jumping to conclusions. Literally the very next i line says "this will affect support morgana as well". Its a nerf to morgana everywhere, so let me ask, how did you logically deduce they "dont want her midlane"?
where else do you play Morg?
: As an Evelynn main, I actually think eve is underpowered right now. Her ult feels SO bad. It does less damage than her e does, which is so fucked up. Her ult should be the big damage output. They need to give it back the damage that they took away.
I had a thought: lets make Eve able to mid lane. Shes literally an AP assassin with burst potential...gee where have i heard that one before? {{champion:84}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:76}} But then you look at Eve, with horrible sustained fighting damage. Im not saying buff her damage, but possibly some cooldown reduction upon landing the first cast of Q on anything, but much lower than on a monster. Then she has better fighting chance against someone that isnt just a big "fk you" to her combo. Think about it, what does Eve do other than try to 1 shot a squishy. Oh yeah, she does nothing. Because it is all she can do. Unlike how every other AP assassin has the ability to stay in through fights. Or if you hate assassins i guess downvote this post. Edit: as i finished this i remembered something, Eve also has a terribly weak early game, but no people only think about her trying to get into mid and late game...have you died to a single Q E from Evelynn pre 6 while at full health?
: Pretty much sums up how Riot wants champions to be balanced in certain lanes...
"But Morgana mid is cancer, she has a spell shield and her root is forever ynrtehrwea" By the way, skillshots are dodgeable and Zed, Talon, and Karthus don't give a shit about her spell shield. Edit: "But her waveclear" Newsflash, Aurelion Sol still exists.
FFrazien (EUW)
: Nexus Blitz canceled as permanent gamemode
Not gonna lie, why do they keep just adding non permanent game modes. How about we just make this game diverse and add multiple game modes and keep them? You could click on ARAM, and select normal or BB ARAM mode. You could click URF, and you could also play ARURF if you want. Then add PVE events to the VS AI category, and make a special event list. Add Odyssey Kayn as a mode in bot games, or add Doom Bots as a mode. To think this game has been out 12 or something maybe 10 years and theres only one map that we all know and love the most, even despite all the modes they have come out with.
nGio (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WNWQXRJW,comment-id=000c0003,timestamp=2019-04-05T08:12:22.774+0000) > > Not to be rude, but damn. Thats a tad selfish for the, what, thousands of people playing league at the time 10 years ago. Because, not sure if you know this, but theres like, a million people now. Sorry, but i was 7 when this skin became unobtainable. Not to mention, your beloved little skin isnt that special when you realize that Riot already fucked people by making "exclusive" skins returned to present day. > > - Nosferatu Vladmir being "never returning" s1 > - Championship Riven coming back > > You're saying you wouldnt be happy with some mark to show you were an OG, and would rather make it so millions of people can't have the best skin she owns? > > Now THAT is low. > > P.S. your skin is digital data, they can put it in the shop if they wanted This is how early investment in something works. My early investment helped push League past HoN, which is why it's here today. I didn't wait until it was already a winner to buy in. Honestly, you are coming off as an entitled whiny brat. This is going to come as a shock to you, but the world owes you nothing kiddo. I owe you nothing, and Riot doesn't owe you exclusive content. I'm glad it's vaulted, because of people like you, the spoiled kids who throw tantrums and name call when mommy says "no dessert". You missed out, life goes on, stop crying.
Investment? Oh! You got the game, meanwhile it isn't my decision this game is free. Sure. Keep going. If they keep making other skins return, why do you have to have this special authority over digital code? They screwed other players for their "never returning" purchases, why are you above them?
: > [{quoted}](name=WastingSun,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WEE6vIr2,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-05T08:28:19.437+0000) > > Now, their excuse was that, well, they don't want her mid lane. > source?
They said in the patch notes they wanted to directly affect mid-lane Morg.
: backtrack and urgot ult.
: Can The RIOT Dev Gods Please Make ARURF Permanent??
If they did then no one would play the real game. Even they have said that themselves. Kinda says something about the game doesn't it?{{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Yenn (NA)
: What the fuck happened to Mundo?
Not to mention...shouldn't they be more concerned with reworking him?
: I mean I'm used to my adc feeding, it's like in their blood but don't you touch my fucking ward you cumslut bastard, I just put that down and I swear I will murder your family and desecrate their graves if you ever touch my control ward again.
What the fuck did Graves do?
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nGio (NA)
: I thought that Silver Kayle was limited to people who purchased physical copies of League on release. Re-releasing it now would be a pretty shitty move, and a border doesn't do justice. I love randomly seeing exclusive skins in game, because of their rarity. There are a couple of old skins that I'd love to have, but I don't want them made available, because it takes away from what makes them great. We all had access to this shit, and most chose not to invest in League's early life. Let them have a Kayle skin for believing in Riot Games before it was Riot Games. It's cool that the veteran players and original bedrock supporters of League have something that people can't acquire by vomiting out cash for it. I personally hope that Riot doesn't give in to the cash grabs and whining.
Not to be rude, but damn. Thats a tad selfish for the, what, thousands of people playing league at the time 10 years ago. Because, not sure if you know this, but theres like, a million people now. Sorry, but i was 7 when this skin became unobtainable. Not to mention, your beloved little skin isnt that special when you realize that Riot already fucked people by making "exclusive" skins returned to present day. - Nosferatu Vladmir being "never returning" s1 - Championship Riven coming back You're saying you wouldnt be happy with some mark to show you were an OG, and would rather make it so millions of people can't have the best skin she owns? Now THAT is low. P.S. your skin is digital data, they can put it in the shop if they wanted
Ardranor (NA)
: didnt realise how rare it was either honestly. welp guess im maining silver kayle now that she actually looks decent
lmao too bad says riot since you could only get it 10 fucking years ago..yknow, exclusive skins. like how nosferatu vladmir was a never returning skin-oh wait thats back now. like how championship riven isnt returning-oh wait thats back now.
: Nerf Riven
This is kinda a fair point. And of course anyone can disagree but uh...what other champion has 4 gap closers, 2 forms of cc on a non support, a shield, 2 different damage buffs, AOE damage, and a large cone execute. worst part of it all: she has no resource. I feel like just giving her some kind of resource would suffice at least just because she has no excuse not to have one. Now while I don't think Riven is overpowered, she is a bit under looked at for what she can do by herself. Much like Vayne she can sorta just play the game and start dumpstering over half the roster since she is a bruiser that hasn't been gutted. And I'm not going to bother with the discussion of if she is difficult or not, since it triggers everyone. However, is it really good game design to have a character that gets "balanced" for having a few champions be able to beat them? Like...yeah 4 people can beat this 1 person...but what if you dont play those 4? GG? good design doesn't equal being balanced off of OTHER characters.
Foologic (NA)
: BEST COMPLAINT EVER like the summary was a 10/10 great. Like this (bronze) player decides to talk about riven being broken but go look at renekton or vayne two "perfectly" balanced champs.
did you try to balance Riven by saying other champions aren't balanced?

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