: "You have been inactive and have disconnected" - practice tool
So you arent wasting Riot's resources while not actually using them? Riot is hosting an entire game for a single person as opposed to 10. People afking in a custom or practice tool is literally wasting their resources for absolutely nothing. Have a bit of consideration. Sheesh.
: > [{quoted}](name=OHminus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4EM2e4xd,comment-id=0000000100000004,timestamp=2017-06-25T12:57:46.264+0000) > > which ability is this? AD with dash that is not on R (all of them have some form of utility or damage attached to it): {{champion:266}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} Mages who have some kind of dash that is not on R: {{champion:268}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:115}} Mages who have utility or damage in their dash that is not on R: {{champion:268}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:127}} I didn't include AP assassins ({{champion:105}} ) because they are assassins or any hybrid types ({{champion:55}} ) or simple increased MS ({{champion:43}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:26}} ) because either they aren't classified as mages or that the mobility wasn't insant. Ekko, Kennen and LeBlanc were iffy as they weren't technically mages, but I included them due to their mage-like qualities.
> [{quoted}](name=ZapMyHeart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4EM2e4xd,comment-id=00000001000000040000,timestamp=2017-06-25T15:47:34.499+0000) > > AD with dash that is not on R (all of them have some form of utility or damage attached to it): > {{champion:266}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} > > Mages who have some kind of dash that is not on R: > {{champion:268}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:115}} > > Mages who have utility or damage in their dash that is not on R: > {{champion:268}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:127}} > > I didn't include AP assassins ({{champion:105}} ) because they are assassins or any hybrid types ({{champion:55}} ) or simple increased MS ({{champion:43}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:26}} ) because either they aren't classified as mages or that the mobility wasn't insant. Ekko, Kennen and LeBlanc were iffy as they weren't technically mages, but I included them due to their mage-like qualities. I'm confused. Why do you get to separate assassins from AP while simultaneously lumping like 8 classes together as AD? Not only are you lumping assassins into AD, but you are including classes like tanks as AD. Can you explain why {{champion:105}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:427}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:111}} aren't included in AP but {{champion:238}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:78}} are included in AD?
: It wasn't a build. It was a list of CDR options. Note the "plenty of options". Again, nit picky just to prove a point. If you continue reading after the "DANGER DANGER! FOUND SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!" you may have more success
I'm not being nit picky. You said > Given the abundance of CDR in any build these days, you'll usually hit the cap without an hourglass with relative ease. I was point out that with a normal build you normally dont hit the cap without Zhonya's or another 10% CDR item subbed in for Zhonya's. How is that nit picky? I was addressing your point directly lol Who cares about a list of items with CDR if you cant cohesively put them together?
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=on2ZwX51,comment-id=0001000400010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T23:28:58.047+0000) > > LOL literally 0.15% of games end by 15 minutes yet you're still going to try to justify "***MOST**** games last 15-35 minutes. > > # 0.15% > > The fact that you think 0.15% is "PROOF" that your claim is correct is so nonsensical and illogical that it blows my mind. Like holy shit you cant be serious. > > The CORRECT statement is "most games last 25-45 minutes" > > Yeah man "*any AP champion that uses mana*" really is a "niche". So very specific wow. > > I'm done with this. You're practically shitposting at this point. Thanks for illustrating even further that you have no idea what you're talking about. > > and people wonder why nobody takes the board seriously your really don't understand the concept of a scaling items or when champs get thier powerspikes do you. you want to KNOW why a lot of champ buy {{item:3027}} becuase its the ONLY halfway decent option for most it is the LEAST niche out of all the "hp items" because it gives raw stats with amost no useful passive spart of the scaling that any champ that wants scales into late game can use well. i mean you sound like the idoit {{champion:238}} i faced when i rushed {{item:3157}} vs an all AD team... and he was like "phh you rushed zhoyas" IT NOT LIKE THERE IS ANY OTHER OPTION!!!!! {{item:3027}} is the LEAST bad option as it can be used on MORE champs than the others.. that doesn't make it GOOD for any champ who is going to be trash lategame anyways. obviously like EVERY ap niche items SOME champs are good with it... even crazy strong with it. the REASON why everyone GOT {{item:3116}} was BECAUSE it wasn't "niche" you could use it on ANY ap champ and it was good because it was JUST the stats.. yes the passive broke a few champs but riot should have fixed the PASSIVE. not ruin the ONLY item that gave us the raw stats we needed that didn't have some stupid drawback that made the item slot inefficient.
I really dont have the energy for this. You're allowed to think "{{item:3027}} is complete trash" all you want. I'm allowed to think that opinion is laughably idiotic and anyone who has that opinion has no idea what they're talking about, which I do. Have a nice day
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=on2ZwX51,comment-id=0001000400010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T23:28:58.047+0000) > > LOL literally 0.15% of games end by 15 minutes yet you're still going to try to justify "***MOST*** games last 15-35 minutes. > > # 0.15% > > The fact that you think 0.15% is "PROOF" that your claim is correct is so nonsensical and illogical that it blows my mind. Like holy shit you cant be serious. > > The CORRECT statement is "most games last 25-45 minutes" > > Yeah man "*any AP champion that uses mana*" really is a "niche". So very specific wow. > > I'm done with this. You're practically shitposting at this point. Thanks for illustrating even further that you have no idea what you're talking about. > > and people wonder why nobody takes the board seriously I think you misunderstand. He is saying the majority of the games end somewhere between the 15 min mark and the 35 minute mark. Which the graph also displays that to be true.
The graph clear displays most games end between 25-45 minutes. Its pretty obvious. "15-35 minutes" is a straight up lie
: Don't be picky about which part you comment on. Given the abundance of CDR in any build these days, you'll usually hit the cap without an hourglass with relative ease. {{item:3115}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3152}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3102}} 80% CDR without hourglass. Plenty of options, if you buy 40% worth in here and then hourglass. CDR not used. Hence useless CDR because it doesn't come into play if you already hit the cap
Except what you listed isnt an actual build. That build makes absolutely no sense. Its easy to do that when you just throw a bunch of random items together. I could do that with some ridiculous AD build too like..... {{item:3078}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3812}} = 90% CDR The problem with this is that that build is hot garbage. A few normal builds would look something like this: {{item:3165}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}} = 30% CDR {{item:3027}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}} = 20% CDR {{item:3027}} {{item:3040}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3102}} = 30% CDR {{item:3165}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3157}} = 40% CDR {{item:3027}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3135}} = 10% CDR Note most of those already have the {{item:3157}} in it already
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=on2ZwX51,comment-id=00010004000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T22:33:08.253+0000) > > [No they don't. You are WAAAAAAAAYYYY off on that one bud.](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-12-infographics) > {{champion:31}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:82}} maybe a few others > > You're really proving you have no idea what you're talking about. You are suggesting {{champion:82}} builds {{item:3027}} when he doesnt even have mana lol > > Other champs that build {{item:3027}} frequently: > > {{champion:38}} {{champion:1}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:90}} > > Hmmmmm seem to be a lot of top tier picks in there. Must be because their core first item "is complete trash". Logic. > > The rest of your post is rambling on about {{champion:76}} who a lot of people build {{item:3027}} as a second item anyway. A lot of your points are just straight up wrong because you're operating under the assumption that "most games last 15-30 minutes" which is massively incorrect. you freaking QUOTED my post which PROVES i said 15-35... then you link me to site that PROVES my own point of that 80% of games last between 15 and 35 min.. i also said its a trash item UNLESS you are a lategame champ of course u post champs like {{champion:13}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:34}} i said {{item:3027}} is a NICHE item that is trash unless your one of the champs who can USE IT. if you going to try to quote me out of context.. and pretend i said something i didnt say.. and twist my meaning. At LEAST put some EFFORT into it... like edit my quite or something to make it at least LOOK like i said something i didn't. then you might at least convince people who are as dumb as yourself
> then you link me to site that PROVES my own point of that 80% of games last between 15 and 35 min.. LOL literally 0.15% of games end by 15 minutes yet you're still going to try to justify "***MOST*** games last 15-35 minutes. # 0.15% The fact that you think 0.15% is "PROOF" that your claim is correct is so nonsensical and illogical that it blows my mind. Like holy shit you cant be serious. The CORRECT statement is "most games last 25-45 minutes" > i said {{item:3027}} is a NICHE item that is trash unless your one of the champs who can USE IT. Yeah man "*any AP champion that uses mana*" really is a "niche". So very specific wow. I'm done with this. You're practically shitposting at this point. Thanks for illustrating even further that you have no idea what you're talking about. >{{item:3027}} is complete trash and people wonder why nobody takes the board seriously
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=on2ZwX51,comment-id=000100040001,timestamp=2017-06-24T21:37:39.154+0000) > > This statement shows you have no idea what you're talking about. {{item:3027}} is a great item on practically any mage that has mana. It gives health sustain, mana sustain, and becomes gold efficient after one stack. When its fully stacked its something crazy like 150% gold efficient from stats alone most games last 15-35 min if you want to have {{item:3027}} fully stacked by that time you have it COMPLETED as your first or 2nd item... and how mnay champs want to do that? {{champion:31}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:82}} maybe a few others champs that have powerspikes mid and early game would have to CHOOSE to purposly hut themself during the time where they are the strongest in order to get this item im not going to build {{item:3027}} on a champ like {{champion:76}} becuase even though i need the hp... i need it EARLY. but i ALSO need {{item:1410}} completed to even clear with decent mana remaining to gank i need {{item:3158}} and i need {{item:3102}} {{item:3100}} and {{item:3157}} before i can consider getting my hp items... thats 5 items... by that time the enemy is going to have MR and im either going to need {{item:3135}} or {{item:3089}} as my 6th item... there is no spot for it. and even if there was.. there would be no good time to build it... by the time the games reaches 35 min we need to end IMMEDIATELY because {{champion:76}} is about the most worthless champ you can have on your team lategame. im not going to START building a {{item:3027}} at 35 min... and if im fed... im snowball my lead. there is ZERO siutation where ANY of these hp items are effective on nidalee {{item:3116}} was.. becuase not only did it not have some stupid passive that made it only useful for some champs... nidalee could actually USE the passive as she had no form of cc. but even then it mad no difference to her.. only her teammates because if a spear it to even proc it ... you could already pounce to them but now the hp and AP are too low.
> most games last 15-35 min [No they don't. You are WAAAAAAAAYYYY off on that one bud.](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-12-infographics) > and how mnay champs want to do that? {{champion:31}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:82}} maybe a few others You're really proving you have no idea what you're talking about. You are suggesting {{champion:82}} builds {{item:3027}} when he doesnt even have mana lol Other champs that build {{item:3027}} frequently: {{champion:38}} {{champion:1}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:90}} Hmmmmm seem to be a lot of top tier picks in there. Must be because their core first item "is complete trash". Logic. The rest of your post is rambling on about {{champion:76}} who a lot of people build {{item:3027}} as a second item anyway. A lot of your points are just straight up wrong because you're operating under the assumption that "most games last 15-30 minutes" which is massively incorrect.
Rioter Comments
: Ye, that's why Zhonya's was nerfed. Post-nerf Hourglass lost AP, armor and gained a useless 10% CDR (CDR is a kinda common stat nowadays), so if you decide to build it you "waste" a slot that you could use for an heavy AP item resulting in higher damage. Meanwhile an ADC can build PD, getting defensive power anyway because of the damage reduction and the best stats of all the Zeal items. And I'm not even counting that ADCs have a personal bitch called support whose job is to keep them alive no matter what. Yea, supports in 2k17 = adcs slaves.
> gained a useless 10% CDR CDR isnt "useless". Thats just ridiculous. Zhonyas was nerfed but there's no reason to make ridiculous statements like "CDR is useless"
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=on2ZwX51,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-24T17:44:49.791+0000) > > Ummmmm you're forgetting a ton that give HP {{item:3027}} {{item:3152}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3030}} {{item:3116}} > > > {{item:3040}} also has a large shield hp means nothing when u have no resistances... and EVERY ONE of those items is situational {{item:3027}} is complete trash unless your playing a scaling champ that does decent lategame {{item:3152}} is good on a select few champs like {{champion:1}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:105}} {{item:3151}} requires u to have a form of cc to get full effectiveness {{item:3030}} is like for {{champion:136}} and i dont know of any other champ that would touch that thing... {{item:3116}} was the ONLY option that was available for ALL mages, but now it gives barely any stats. most mages didn't give a damn about the slow they wanted the HP and AP and THATS what they took away form it... {{item:3040}} only gives you the shield once you reached max stacks.. so again.. its a scaling item...
> {{item:3027}} is complete trash unless your playing a scaling champ that does decent lategame This statement shows you have no idea what you're talking about. {{item:3027}} is a great item on practically any mage that has mana. It gives health sustain, mana sustain, and becomes gold efficient after one stack. When its fully stacked its something crazy like 150% gold efficient from stats alone
: Yasuo had been nerfed multiple times and he's still problematic none of them addressed real issue
> Yasuo had been nerfed multiple times and he's still problematic none of them addressed real issue You can also replace "Yasuo" with "Shaco" and its still true
: Yo Meddles, Where is Shaco's damage?
> The damage in his kit is literally E + auto attacks Lets completely neglect his clone damage. I thought you were the Shaco main?
Penns (EUW)
: I mean.. just looking at the comments in this thread.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ELoFF00GP4 2/2 with ok farm isnt fed lul.
Uses a video from the Lethaility meta as "proof". We all know lethility was broken then. That doesnt mean it still is
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ELoFF00GP4 :D
posts video from Lethaility meta. We all know Lethality was broken then. Trying to us it as evidence for now is stupid.
: It's time we tone down AD sustain across the boards
> rav hydra is the only item I currently feel is fine the way it is. Isnt it weird how the one that is melee only is the only one that feels fair? :^)
: But who else other than Rengar mains are going to be in uproar? makes perfect sense. People who don't really care won't care to vote up or down at all. I don't get what you're trying to say exactly.
> Its also snuffing out the other discussions we are trying to have by kicking all the other issues off the front page > It would be nice if you limited it to a few threads instead of upvoting practically every single one. Even if they were spaced out it would be better rather than constantly kicking other discussions off the front page
Eedat (NA)
: I agree with a lot of this. I pointed this out in a thread like twenty minutes ago. I use this board as opposed to the main reddit because the main LoL subreddit is extraordinarily diluted with E-Sports, Pro/Streamer drama, highlight reels, he said/she said BS, etc that its extremely hard to have a discussion about actual gameplay. Although we're much smaller in numbers, this is our outlet were we can have our discussions with each other and have it been seen by Riot as opposed to it getting shoved to page 3 of the "new" tab in 10 minutes on reddit. This "{{champion:107}} frenzy" is making it more similar to reddit in that its diluting other gameplay issues that we're trying to discuss.
> I agree with a lot of this. I pointed this out in a thread like twenty minutes ago. Not gonna lie, I saw that and thats what made me make this thread. > I use this board as opposed to the main reddit because the main LoL subreddit is extraordinarily diluted with E-Sports, Pro/Streamer drama, highlight reels, he said/she said BS, etc that its extremely hard to have a discussion about actual gameplay. > Although we're much smaller in numbers, this is our outlet were we can have our discussions with each other and have it been seen by Riot as opposed to it getting shoved to page 3 of the "new" tab in 10 minutes on reddit. > This "{{champion:107}} frenzy" is making it more similar to reddit in that its diluting other gameplay issues that we're trying to discuss. Couldn't agree more
Rioter Comments
: What does Riot have against unique and varied forms of vision?
tl;dr a Shaco main wants there to be even LESS counterplay to his main. 4 seconds of complete invisibility to all wards attached to a flash on a basic ability apparently isnt enough.
: Popular champions are SUPPOSED to have low winrates...
Another garbage Lee Sin shitpost. That makes it #426799654332288
: Except I've been able to outline my logic for you to follow which you conveniently ignored. Quite interesting.
And I've outlined the logic of my stance and you keep dismissing it as illogical. Hence the loop
: These are my assumptions: 1. People complain when there's something they want but don't have. 2. There are at least 10 people on boards. 3. Different people may not want the same things. 4. Riot listens to the community. Here is my logic: 5. 1, People complain that rengar is op. 6. 4, Riot nerfs rengar. 7. 2,3, Some people dislike the new rengar. 8. 1, People complain rengar is too weak. 9. 5,7,8 There are different groups on boards who want different things. Conclusion: There are different groups on boards who want different things. That was fun! Thanks for the practice :) Edit: Oh and it's called mob mentality when referring to people. It also doesn't explain the behavior in your post.
Let's be real. We're both locked into a never ending cycle of "no, I'm right!" There is no end to this and I don't feel like talking circles over and over.
: You're ignoring the logical conclusion that there are multiple groups who want different things and are vocal at different times. If you can't see this then there's no point trying to make you understand. On the other hand there's your conclusion: "boards hates everything no matterm what"
> logical conclusion There you go again. ***Just because you call it "logical" doesnt make it logical.*** Go read up on herd mentality. Theres a lot of data on it which backs my point. So how is my point illogical with real data backing it up and yours is logical just because you say so? My point has been proven thousands of times in real world scenarios and happens practically every second of every day. You have provided nothing but opinion. You have the illogical claim.
: > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind > the community is not a hive mind Is this pure conjecture? What about this? > Yea everyone has their own things they want from the game. Example would be that I want them to buff turrets so that you don't lose tower from going back to base 1 time from full HP, and I like when games go on for 40-50+ minutes. I'm sure there is a decent amount of people who would also want that same thing I mentioned but probably as much people who like when turrets are easy to take/games are way shorter etc. What about this one? > There is more than one person on boards. Different people want different things. You're right that there's no pleasing this community, but you're wrong about why. Now while keeping the past few quotes in mind tell me if this is logical or not. > The second Riot gives the community exactly what they want is the exact second we bitch about it. > It's really like a group of people standing in a circle with everyone pointing to the person on their right and saying "it's their fault." >6 months ago people were begging Riot to make junglers gank instead of rewarding AFK farming. So they changed the jungle for this season to do exactly that. Now the community is angry that they did. > > ? > > **Remember when the community begged Riot to "MAKE THE GAME LESS SNOWBALLY!!!!!" so they upped the catchup XP along with some other changes?** Now we're bitching about it. > > Remember when we begged Riot to buff towers so they did and games because 50 minute snoozefests of waveclearing under towers until everyone was full build? Remember then how we bitched and demanded ways to end games when you got a lead so Riot did and nerfed towers again ***(AKA make the game more snowbally)***? Now we're complaining that we want them buffed again and games are too snowbally. > > Remember when the community begged Riot for "more counterplay for assassins" then we bitched when they did it? All I'm gonna do now is quote my first response to this thread and leave it here for you. > There is more than one person on boards. Different people want different things. You're right that there's no pleasing this community, but you're wrong about why.
> While there certainly are individuals, the vast majority of the community is a hivemind. I can easily point to data that proves that people in large groups lose individuality and just go with the flow. It's an extremely common occurrence. This is absolutely no different although on a smaller scale. People in large groups are sheep. Its been proven over and over and over again. It's started wars and riots. It's collapsed economies and entire civilizations. What you said still isnt "logic". Its an opinion.
: > [{quoted}](name=SnakDatSmilesBak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GXTAs85X,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-06-12T18:54:09.537+0000) > > People downvote logic and upvote conjecture, look at this post for evidence. And I was just saying it's funny to me. Like in a "thanks for the lol" kind of way ^_^ Read into the matter further and you'll understand why boards acts the way your post describes. In fact, it's almost a perfect microcosm.
You're trying to dismiss my point as "illogical" while using pure conjecture. You realize the hypocrisy right?
: It's really funny to me that almost every comment on this post is telling you that the community is made up of different people who want different things and yet your post is being upvoted like it's fact.
What are you implying?
: You know the community REALLY wants a change when...
Nope that just means its the popular buzztopic on the boards right now. Rest assured we'll bitch about whatever changes they decide on later
: the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind the community is not a hive mind you can't just point at "this community" as a scapegoat. we are not one collective conscience and we do not have the same opinions
Come on man. While there certainly are individuals, the vast majoirty of the community is a hivemind. Take a look around. Throw a few popular buzzwords around and the community jumps ship in an instant. Legit look at the front page. There are like 10 Rengar threads on it. A month ago everyone overwhelmingly hated Rengar. People ***overwhelmingly despised*** old Rengar's design and now we're begging for it back. Same shit with LB. The community absolutely despised that champ and now they want her back. Same shit, different story. Over and over and over and over and over again. > the community is not a hive mind 90% of it is without a doubt.
Rioter Comments
korg023 (EUNE)
: Things riot should make priority right now : 1. BUFF TOWERS 2. CHANGE JUNGLE AGAIN,REMOVE XP CATCHUP MECHANIC,MAKE GANKING MORE RISKY,REWARD PEOPLE FOR FARMING IN JUNGLE MORE. 3. FIX MINION BLOCK. When they fix these,its going to be huge leap forward.
Its funny because 6 months ago people were begging Riot to make junglers gank instead of rewarding AFK farming. So they changed the jungle for this season to do exactly that. Now the community is angry that they did. Lmao.
: Binary means they would have to use the same key strokes every single time because they literally cannot lead with any others. The only one who follows under that would be {{champion:61}} who doesn't have the ability to lead with W,E,R. So she would technically be binary. Other champions like {{champion:150}} can lead with Q or E or depending on rage W and R.
Ori doesnt have to lead with Q because she can use her teammates to deliver the ball for her. So not really binary.
: Remember when Rito said 'no binary' champs? : A guide
: 4 SUPPORTS 1 KOG MAW, ALL BOTTOM (VIDEO SOON)
: His winrate is high because he counters burst makes and assassins. Both of which are very meta picks right now
Assassins are not meta. Assassins are trash.
Rioter Comments
: > i'm silver 1 don't look at the pro players for builds listen to me instead :^)
Thinks he qualified to speak of the game at Challenger level when literally every single pro calls D5 complete garbage :^)
Eedat (NA)
: If DD is "disgustingly broken"
Lol at these people using probuilds as an actual source. Illaoi has been played twice in the past two weeks on that site. Illaoi has been played 5 times in NA Challenger over the past month with a 0% win rate https://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Illaoi has been used 0 times in EUW and KR challenger in the past month https://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/ https://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Obviously {{item:3812}} Illaoi is amazing because probuilds says the pros actually play her. Great source you got there of pros on their smurfs kek
: http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Riven http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Illaoi http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Fiora would you look at that people who are actually good at the game build this item a lot more than the average player, 70% of games built on illaoi and 57% on riven ... yeah they never build it especially when the player is good right?
WUT? People use probuilds as a valid source now? Clicked Riven. Only picked half the time. Clicked Illaoi. 2 games played in the past two weeks LOL. Clicked Fiora 15% pick rate. Kek thats a fantastic source you got there
: Death's Dance is complete bullshit
> Just played a game vs Draven Janna when Draven went DD first item. I was LB. Could you imagine if the game was actually balanced around one person having a bad game? Not even saying DD isn't OP. Your logic of "WELL THIS ONE TIME DRAVEN GOT REALLY FED AND BOUGHT DD THEREFORE ITS BROKEN" is god awful
: Can people start acting like a power budget exists?
> Can people start acting like a power budget exists? Ummmmm I think you meant the opposite
Midtermz (NA)
: Our 7.11 Malzahar
[I told them this was going to happen](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AYkFv9cc-problem-with-the-malz-revert)
: The Boards Problems are not Actually Lee Sin, Yasuo, Ahri, ETC
Opened thread expecting an actual discussion. Just another Lee Sin/Yasuo QQ thread. Downvoted and left
: Kindred feels like a worse version of Vayne
> Kindred feels like a worse version of Vayne No they don't. Not sure what you're even talking about.
Eedat (NA)
: Feedback on the new proposed Rune system
WAIT. They want to BUFF keystones? # WHY?
: when is Riot going to realize Garen is the weakest champion in high elo
> Riot keep saying "he will be monster at low elo", but thats not my fucking problem lol. So you came here expecting everyone to be sympathetic to your concerns then straight up say "I dont give a fuck how this affects you". Right
: More LP loss than gained
You have an overall win rate of 47%. Out of your last 13 games displayed on op.gg, you've only won 5 of them. Its pretty obvious why your MMR is tanking
: For a marksman that uses an Ammo system, Graves doesn't feel like it impacts him that much
His reload system impacts the way he plays a lot. Its extremely noticeable, try playing him. He doesn't need the same reload system as Jhin. They're different champions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4hUfeOio,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-26T21:48:21.450+0000) > > Compared to Jhin I mean. > > If you see some outlaw with a fat shotgun you kinda expect him to just fire two rounds or so before having a lengthy reload, his insane damage justified by how slow he's to reload. > > Yet that doesn't really translate into game. > > Dunno, just my two cents, feels like Jhin is the only one out of these two to actually get an interesting ammo system. its because graves had his dmg nerfed so much that it doesnt seem impactful anymore. this is why he no longer goes bot lane, his lane is no longer justified because his dmg isnt there early and instead abuses how safe he is in the jungle.
Ummmmmmm he no longer goes bot lane because you can't AA through a wave which makes him terrible. People stopped playing him bot as soon as he was reworked
Sub HeroCro (EUNE)
: Axes literaly go where you want them to. Its not that hard There are some mechanics you should know like ER Flashing and carrying animation triple axe magement etc As for kog maw skillcap You need some damn fast fingers or scripts to unlock him Pre revert video though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzW1oET3n-8
If it was 5.0 AS Kog I would have conceded it takes a lot more skill than a normal ADC. But its not so he isnt
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