: I was 1814 mmr the game before. I check my MMR after every game. After that loss, my MMR dropped down to 1700 because I lost versus lower ranked players. Obviously it's not representative of my actual MMR because your MMR doesn't drop 100+ points in a single game. If you don't believe me, go soloq first, check your MMR, then duoq with someone significantly below your MMR. Even if you win your games, OPGG will say your MMR has dropped. This is because OPGG measures it against enemy team MMR much more sensitively than Riot's MMR formula. So yes, something is still wrong. My Lucian adc should not be 400 MMR below me...
I told you lol. He was duo'd. He either lied to you about being solo or you never actually asked. He played the next game with the same guy
Ralanr (NA)
: “If an enemy's health is low enough that they will die from Feast a ring of glowing red teeth appears underneath them.”
That's not an execute. An execute scales with enemies % health. For example, Volibears W damage not only scales with his health, but it also does more damage the lower the enemies HP is. Cho's ult, on the other hand, does the exact same amount of damage if you ult someone at 100% HP or 1% HP. That is why it's not an execute.
: AD champs have 26% reduced armor, 35% armor pene, 60 lethality and AP have 33 flat and 40% magic pene
This build XD > 35% armor pene, ***BONUS*** armor pen. How are you diamond and don't know the difference? Or are you playing dumb on purpose to make your point sound better? It's also hysterical watching you desperately trying to compare 5 full items to 2 items plus boots BONUS let's completely ignore champs have roughly double the base Armor than they do base MR Plus you need to stack up BC and Lethality is gated by level unlike magic pen
: ? lol the point is AD have more Tank busting items... they also have more itemization against mages {{item:3155}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3139}} {{item:3140}} vs {{item:3157}}
You're joking right? You do realize EoN hasn't given MR for awhile right?. You then go on list components and their completed items to inflate your list kek
Ralanr (NA)
: Cho is not a great example to list tank strength because Cho is a mixture of tank and juggernaut. Not all tanks have a health scaling true damage execution.
Cho's Ult isnt an execute though
: maybe if you added the 20% dmg scaling to voidstaff it would be relevant against MR stacking tank
It doesnt need it. LW items only penetrate 35% ***BONUS*** Armor. Void penetrates 40% ***TOTAL*** Magic Resist. Void is night and day better than the LW items.
: ya {{item:3135}} is stronger than {{item:3036}} {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Yes, hands down stronger. Beyond a shadow of a doubt
: You know what, i dont mind reverts to all those bruiser buffs on pbe
You're missing the part where the AD on {{item:3031}} went from 80 to 70 and crit went from 25% to 20% to begin with lol
: 1400 MMR Silver Player with 47% Win Rate Ends Up in My 1800 MMR Plat Game?
According to op.gg, your MMR is 1688, not 1800. His is 1565. > Edit: I asked - he was soloqueing so it's not like it was some duo queue MMR situation. Well either you're lying or he lied to you because he was duo with that G1 guy http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=iuamazingspa Notice how they play another game together after that one
: End of Game Stats Can we change Largest Crit to Largest Hit and let AP champs see their biggest Hit?
> and let ~~AP champs~~ any champ that doesnt build crit see their biggest Hit? ftfy
: Mages have absolutely no answer for tanks
What do you mean Void isnt good enough? Void is hands down better than the LW items
IAmWoralo (EUW)
: Oh no Heimerdonger finally became a reasonable champion
What do you mean "finally"? He's been doing well for a long time. Heimer's getting nerfed because his kit is stupid to deal with as a melee. Legit drop your ult turret and run in circles or pop stopwatch.
Lulú (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7EkAZtMh,comment-id=0019000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-12T01:01:34.443+0000) > > It's funny you picked Gold 5 when I'm technically above that lol. Either way, your opinion doesnt stand for all players at your ELO. You trying to pull that just makes you sound like a pompous douche tbh People who know enough about the game and have played it enough (to win) don't like playing against Braum, just fact
Sure is odd considering{{champion:117}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:16}} all have at least double the ban rate as {{champion:201}} in Diamond+ https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champions/ Lulu's ban rate is over ten times higher than Braum's in Diamond plus. Damn, seems your ELO really despises playing against your main
: Enchanters are out of meta atm, and yet somehow all of the damage dealers are actually doing EVEN MORE damage now by themselves, without having it "pumped onto them" (Especially ADC's lol) Where is your god now?
ADCs aren't doing more damage lol. Everything else is doing more damage. Mages and assassins one shot everything. Tanks one shot eveything. Hell, even Leona does more damage than ADCs early. Only outlier is MF really. Even Ezreal who is completely broken needs items before he actually comes online. Since the Ardent nerfs, Twitch's winrate has dropped 4%. Tristana's winrate has dropped 2%. Kog's winrate has dropped 4%. Xayah's winrate has dropped 2%. Its really weird how all these champs are much worse when they dont have a Janna giving them 45 AD, AS, and on-hit damage every time she presses E on them.
: Wow enchanters had a role in the game but got punished for it because adcs do too much damage and do it too fast. seems legit
Probably because Enchanters pumped a fuck ton of damage onto them and removed the counterplay of them being super squishy. Its a pretty well known fact that the enchanter supports and their itemization were a huge factor of ADC's strength last season but hey just try to throw all of the blame onto the big meanie damage dealer.
: If someone doesn't ban a champion but aren't AFK, it should ban "none" instead of dodging.
: Did you know, his w is not his ONLY gap closer, it's crazy I know.
> You can walk into a bush, walk out of it ***wqew auto*** for an insta death Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
: Your daily zed is unhealthy as hell bc duskblade post.
Here's an idea. Why dont you not let him W on top of you for a few seconds after he walks in a bush? Or is he just going to stay in that bush indefinitely and miss 100% of his farm or something?
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: lol?
Literally your own link lol https://imgur.com/a/fwG1Q
: why don't you actually wait a few days so that sites actually get the right type of data instead of a mishmash of pre-nerf and post-nerf data?
It's literally ALL patch 7.24 data. Try again.
: She's currently at 48% here https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Sona/
***your own link says 52.5%*** What the fuck?
: I see something much worse here: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Sona/graphs/ Diamond 51% to 44% and Platinum 51% to 48%, Seems harsh to me. Just because the bronze and silver players don't know how Sona worked, and therefore the winrate is basically unchanged in those tiers and is skewing the averages.
The data I linked is only plat plus 7.24. Notice how it even says "platinum/plus" right there in the URL?
: this includes pre nerf data as shown by lolalytics in its 7 day. patch hasn't been out 7 days., she is sitting closer to 48/49% on patch, but the small sample size is too big of a factor to say she is really that good or bad rn.
Except it doesn't. That's what the "current" in the URL filters. It's only 7.24 data
: This is basically the direction that we're taking balance atm / Per Class
Why do people think AP mids are bad when a lot of them are really good? The whole "AP mids are horrible" thing is 100% horse shit
: She's really not.
She absolutely is and is [100% getting hotfixed nerfed lmao](https://twitter.com/Riot_Maple/status/938822734758346753)
: I think it may be time to nerf duskblade again
How about we just nerf MF instead of hitting every single champ that uses it? Because contrary to popular belief, Zed isnt broken and the only Duskblade users that are doing well are {{champion:21}} and {{champion:91}}
: Morgana "Rework"
Dafuq? Morg is completely broken OP. How do you think she's worse lmao? Hotfix nerfs incoming!
: Morganna changes
You're joking right? Shes broken right now and getting a hotfix nerf
: Pretty much the lowest point for her in a long while, plus the more people click on that she has become the freest kill for 20 mins because she scales too slowly now for how fast games are
Wow 51% is the "lowest point for her in a long while". She's had it so rough
Rioter Comments
nm1010 (NA)
: There is some cooldown difference, but my point is that it forces a poking play style for the mage. I will almost always lose an all in because I just have 100 less base damage + less scaling on my keystone by mid game (even more if I take Aery for reliability). Even Aery is still poking, but is just better than comet in most scenarios. I really just want the option to opt for an all in keystone if I need to be the person dealing with the enemy adc or dueling the assassin.
> but my point is that it forces a poking play style for the mage. How? Comet does more damage than old TLD which actually gives you even more burst on top of more poke. Couple that with the lack of base MR and you get even more burst. > Thunderlord's: the target is dealt 10 - 180 (based on level) + (30% bonus AD) + (10% AP) magic damage > Arcane Comet: dealing 30 - 100 (based on level) (+ 20% AP) (+ 35% bonus AD) Adaptive damage after a brief delay.
: It was two shards if you didn't go for the project one. Also, we haven't seen if they are increasing the frequency of events as well or not.
Fun fact: those possible two skin shards are worth what a single skin shards used to be worth. But now every single other skin shard you get is still only worth half. The illusion of choice lel
: We just got the option for 2 free skin only boxes out of the project event. I assume they lowered Orange essence so we could get better rewards out of events without having to spend real $$ on an event pass
So we get the option of 1 skin shard per event in return for half orange essence? Kek. Even that one free shard is still gated behind the gimped OE system. Open you eyes man. You're getting screwed
: Just an FYI no one is going to play Malzahar after the next patch goes live
I told everyone the partial revert was going to be a problem lol https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AYkFv9cc-problem-with-the-malz-revert
nm1010 (NA)
: Remember that tower 'buff'?
> Wasn't average game time 30 minutes before that +300 hp tower buff went through? No. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-21-infographics https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-23-infographics Almost exactly the same
: Which is the most powerful race in League?
Well Sol literally devours stars sooooooooo.....
Sciela (NA)
: Well, I **do** play Nid, and I fucking mained her when I started in season 5. Zoe and Nid are ***NOTHING*** alike. You wouldn't even *see* Nid as she hucked spears out of nowhere, where Zoe's combo is VERY telegraphed and obvious - to the point that if you get hit by it you have some kind of mental issue. And Nid absolutely can one shot without her spear these days.
> and I fucking mained her when I started in ***season 5.*** > Zoe and Nid are NOTHING alike. You realized she was reworked in season 4 when you weren't even playing right? You realize that everyone is saying she is like ***pre-rework*** Nid right?
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gKTmA22g,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-01T22:19:13.462+0000) > > People dont like her because its like playing against old AP Nid. Sure, you can dodge the spear. But eventually one is going to hit even if you just dodged 10 of them. And that one spear is enough to send you back by itself. Unlike old AP Nid, she has extreme ranged hard CC to ensure her 'spear' lands. > > Also, her W RNG is far too powerful You do realize Nidalee 1) has a MUCH shorter CD kit 2) still 1 hits and 3) has 1 hit combos when the spear alone doesn't clean up..... I play Nidalee. You don't have a clue what she currently does. I can go iceborne and do 70% of a tank's like in 1 combo instead of lich bane. I can jump walls and 1 shot camps. I can 1 shot assassins, tops, adcs, supports, with relative easy.
> I play Nidalee. No, you actually dont. Literally zero mastery points lel http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/89125198/Azadethe#/champ-mastery Which is made painfully obvious by the torrent of bullshit at the beginnning > You do realize Nidalee 2) still 1 hits and 3) has 1 hit combos when the spear alone doesn't clean up..... > I can go iceborne and do 70% of a tank's like in 1 combo instead of lich bane. KEK Nidalee's burst is reliant on landing a spear, then diving into the enemy. That is a drastic difference than chunking people for 1/2 their HP from insane range with one hit. I'm very sorry you're having trouble seeing the difference
Sciela (NA)
: "Hurr durr Zoe's broken 'cause she one shots!"
People dont like her because its like playing against old AP Nid. Sure, you can dodge the spear. But eventually one is going to hit even if you just dodged 10 of them. And that one spear is enough to send you back by itself. Unlike old AP Nid, she has extreme ranged hard CC to ensure her 'spear' lands. Also, her W RNG is far too powerful
: ADCs are the entitled, big ego, cry babies of the LoL world. Sorry.
Am I the only one who finds it funny that this guy is calling people "entitled, big ego, crybabies" after reading his name?
: Mages are the largest champion pool in the game, but has the least itemization.
Completed items that give AP: {{item:3003}} {{item:3504}} {{item:3174}} {{item:3102}} {{item:1402}} {{item:2301}} {{item:3092}} {{item:3030}} {{item:3152}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3027}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3157}} Completed items that give AD: {{item:3153}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:1400}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3026}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3004}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3139}} {{item:3033}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3748}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} Completed items that give both: {{item:3146}} {{item:3124}} I'm sure I missed a few. Anyway, doesnt really look like one has more than the other
: 44 Wins, 71 Loss - still getting feeder premades. Rigged matchmaking -> toxicity and make me feed
ihateunoobs (EUNE)
: another vayne main :) vayne is the only adc that can self peel better (maybe kalista also but kalista is a complex champ not a brain deat thumbe 3x w champ like vayne dont tell me i main use to main her got my first season plat with her and anivia :) )
I'm a Vayne main now? Why don't you just look me up? lel http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=whoisthisdude Whew a whopping zero ranked games on Vayne ever
: what about it
ihateunoobs (EUNE)
: she is at 48 win rate cos 80 percent of ppl dont know how to play her semi decent if u play her more then 15 games u are on 80 win rate she is quite op with the new press the atac dealling extra true dmg really cuts down tanks and her ulty buff and q buff are op what u want to say she ain op? i am p2 tier and everybody bans vayne first
> she is at 48 win rate cos ***(insert statement you cant possibly prove)*** > if u play her more then 15 games u are on 80 win rate More made up bullshit.
: I was falsly accused.
: Vayne needs to be nerfed.
Just because you lost last game to one doesnt mean a champ needs nerfs. She has like a 48% winrate, but you're right. Obviously "no countrplay" and one-shots everything
Rioter Comments
Ralanr (NA)
: Alone? Probably not. Given the amount of AoE Ornn has in his kit in addition to the AoE from those items, it all starts adding up. Course it would help if we saw the KDA of Xayah, Ornn, and Ekko. And Ornn is really strong right now.
> Given the ~~amount of AoE~~ stupid amount of %HP damage Ornn has in his kit fixed
: If Ornn is in the middle of the enemy team, all the ambient damage from Sunfire Cape (on a large amount of enemies) adds up and skews damage numbers. Especially with him having an Abyssal (for increased magic damage), Thornmail (reflection damage) and all of his spells being AoE.
> ll the ambient damage from Sunfire Cape > UNIQUE – IMMOLATE: Deals 12 - 29 (based on level) magic damage per second to nearby enemies Even at level 18 thats going to do like 15 damage per second per champ if the enemies have zero MR built. Abyssal will add like 1.5 dps lol. Maybe they should stop giving tanks stupid amounts of %HP damage instead?
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