Nito (OCE)
: Toxic duo bot lane gets me permanently banned.
> I said this to my mate (the kayn) Lol > Nito: wtf Nito: are you Nito: doing Nito: you Nito: useless Nito: adc Nito: Piece Nito: actually useless Nito: KYS You're joking right?
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0WpXlrOE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-19T03:38:33.473+0000) > > Tbh that not even really gutting it. Thats probably just bringing it down to sub par until lategame. Either way that thing needed the nerfbat It already had the nerfbat. They removed its on hit healing to people enchanted by it.
No, those changes dropped it from disgustingly broken to just plain overpowered
Niyumi (NA)
: Why play anything not AD?
Yeah man ADCs have zero counterplay lol. Obviously wow when you put it that way none at all
Dasdi96 (NA)
: It looks like their botlane was ez+braum. Try doing that against a hypercarry+enchanter.
deathgod5 (EUW)
: Only one question really, how salty was that vayne lol
: Gutting Ardent Is The Healthiest Thing Done In Awhile
Tbh that not even really gutting it. Thats probably just bringing it down to sub par until lategame. Either way that thing needed the nerfbat
: I remember the time when it was a normal thing to win a game from being 0-20 down, Now 0-5 is GG.
Thats sounds like a pretty shitty system tbh.
Rioter Comments
esan42 (NA)
: Will i demote to silver if i don't play ranked until the end of the season? (just got gold 5)
: Is your system just plain stupid or trolling players on their promo?
The season is almost over and you haven't figured out flex is a joke yet?
Aamano (NA)
: Can Ashe's Hawkshot deal 1 True Damage?
I really don't think Hawkshot should disrupt out of combat bonuses
: VAYNE CAN STILL CRIT WITH Q!
Duh? The auto attack damage can still crit. The bonus damage it gets from her Q cannot
LEOWI (NA)
: fair is for rich people?
You dont get banned for one offense. Especially not a 14 day ban. Take your fake sob story elsewhere
: I'm fine with longer queue times. Oh no, I had to wait 10-15 extra minutes to get into game :( Way better than "Oh God I wasted 40 minutes in this game with an autofilled player"
> Oh no, I had to wait 10-15 extra minutes to get into game Like I said, ***you dont understand***. Its not going to be "10-15 minutes". Its a simple concept called bottlenecking. Queue times will back up ***INDEFINITELY***. Autofill ***is not an option***. Either we keep role selection with autofill or we go back to pick order. You dont get both. It is not even possible for role selection to function without autofill
: remove autofill
You don't understand. With role selection there ***HAS TO*** be autofill. It's not an option. It's not up for debate. As long as people queue disproportionately for different roles ***it's not an option*** It you want autofill gone, we can go back to pick order because it's the only way it works. Sound good to you?
SoonshiL (NA)
: Must Own 20 Champions to play Ranked? That's ridiculous!
It's not 20 coincidentally. You need 20 because there are 10 bans and up to 9 people can pick before you. You need 20 to 100% be sure you have a champ to play
Buffy (NA)
: Why Victorious Graves?
Graves isnt really a traditional ADC. I dont think "ranged champion that does AD damage" is enough of a binder to make that a class
: Bronze 3 LOLOLOL
Lost your first 3 games and ended up going 5w-5l against bronze-silver 5 players. Sounds about right
Durzaka (NA)
: Ahri has a 49% win rate in plat+ Nowhere near your mythical 53-57% win rate.
You're not understanding the thread correctly. He's saying she has had a high winrate for a VERY long time but now that's she's dropped to 50% people are demanding buffs that she doesn't need
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ufxsKW5U,comment-id=000600000000000000010000000100010000,timestamp=2017-10-03T19:59:47.318+0000) > > I have a question. In what world do you live in that your lane opponent lets you walk up, blow all your abilities on minions, then melee auto attack them all without killing you? It must be a very whimsical land indeed. Your entire point of comparing numbers is 100% completely meaningless lmao You must be dyslexic or something, because no one said anything about blowing all skills on minions, and then letting you walk up and auto attack. 1) Ahri's autos are ranged, not melee. She clears like Lux..... ebb a wave down to low hp and then auto them to death, or auto them NEAR death and clean up with Q (which is risky because the second hit might take awhile to come back and you might lose 1-2 minions). 2) You're proving my point. If you auto minions, your opponent will look for opportunities to kill you. If you skill minions, you're wasting mana you need to defend against opponent. Ahri is one of the easiest mids to shut down because she DOES have to consider that, whereas most other mid mages have early strong kits to clear minions either through supplementary barriers + damage, or just higher damage and lower Mana costs. Ahri has to let the minions push, risk turret killing some, and auto them in safety, or has to try to last hit skill them after the wave encounters stop being nonrandom degeneration, and try to keep them in lane. She can't effectively freeze and clear until after she's getting toward mid game.
> Ahri's autos are ranged, not melee. Im talking about all the champs you just listed that are melee. Lets pick one. > Diana: Auto attack aoes that do an additional 60 damage at level 1. (20 + 40- Same AP) Costs 0 Mana. Q does aoe that hits all for 95 damage for 55 Mana, has E which does AOE damage to nearby targets (in other words, Diana E is more useful than Ahri E) Are you trying ***actually*** trying to say Diana has better waveclear than Ahri? Are you serious? So let me ask you again. In what would does your lane opponent let you, as Diana, walk into melee range and pop every single one of your abilities on creeps then stand there and auto for the passive and not kill you? What world is this? Im not proving your point. If anything, you're proving the point of the whole post about how delusional people who play Ahri are. You honestly think ***DIANA'S*** waveclear is better than Ahri's. What a joke. Then you go on to make up complete horseshit like: > Actually has a kit which can level 2 kill Ahri every time, even under turret, if played right. bullshit > has 3 aoe wave clears which all cost less and are more***reliable*** than Ahri's. bullshit > Karthus doesn't auto. Cass doesn't auto. Complete horseshit that you 100% stole from that other guys comment lel > Akali: Has FAR more mobility on Ult, Bullshit > Taliyah can clear fast even now Legit try reading first. Riot nerfed the shit out of her because she could clear caster minions at level 1 with a single Q
Arakadia (NA)
: I think the only time a Karthus or Cass autos is by accident. Or when their oom.
Both of them auto early and both go OOM extremely quickly until they get a mana item. And if you're gonna compare that then Ahri with Lost Chapter can spam like crazy too
Azadethe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ufxsKW5U,comment-id=0006000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2017-10-03T19:00:18.333+0000) > > Lol no it doesnt. It actually doesnt cost much at all at earlier levels. Legit 65 mana. Hate to be that beaer of bad news, but no champ instaclears casters a level 1. The last one to do it was Taliyah and she got huge nerfs for it. > > Nope. Every single other mid laner in the game relies on more than just abilities to clear early. Every single other one has to auto as well. Literally ***every*** single one > > there arent many midlaners with built in mana sustain. Gonna have to be more specific > > {{champion:131}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:131}} 1. 65 Mana for 80 base damage +35% AP*2 is horrible for wave clear. Ahri starts level 1 with 335 Mana and has one of the lowest mana regen of all mages starting at just 1.2 mana per second, and ending level 18 with only 3.4 per second. For a full AP rune build (lt's say 50 AP), That's only 115 damage per cast at level 1. Level 3 is 70 for 145 damage. Let's compare that to your argument champions: Diana: Auto attack aoes that do an additional 60 damage at level 1. (20 + 40- Same AP) Costs 0 Mana. Q does aoe that hits all for 95 damage for 55 Mana, has E which does AOE damage to nearby targets (in other words, Diana E is more useful than Ahri E) Diana: has 3 aoe wave clears which all cost less and are more reliable than Ahri's. Fizz: Mana Refund, Dot, Actually has a kit which can level 2 kill Ahri every time, even under turret, if played right. Karma: Are you kidding me? Best wave clear in the game, even at level 1... Mantra Q : 105 base + 90% AP or 150 base damage, Detonation 80 more damage (230 damage level 1) FIFTY MANA. One of highest mana regens for starting champs at 8 per 5 sec (1.6), low cooldown, huge aoe. Kennen isn't even a Mana User.... Kass has passive on hit damage bonus as well as E which has HUGE wave clear scaling. Has no trouble clearing a lane at all unless strongly harassed by a jungler. Katarina? Omfg..... No Mana, Low cooldowns, even at level 1, Dagger damage is a whopping 75 + 9 + 23 = 107 per dagger, and on top of that a reliable 98 damage Q..... or 205 damage aoe clear level 1..... for FREE. Talon? Higher Mana Regen than Ahri, 70 higher BASE mana, and reliable phys damage clear that begins at 115 and can also kill Ahri early AND late game. Akali.... Energy. Has defenses. has better heals. Cresent on Same Runes = 70 + 8 + 30 = 118 damage aoe. Has FAR more mobility on Ult, and can actually 2 shot someone at 6. P.S. Taliyah can clear fast even now, with nerf, and I even Jungle her, where there never was a minion damage boost. 2) Karthus doesn't auto. Cass doesn't auto. There's a difference between HAVING to auto and having the OPTION to auto. Heimerdinger doesn't NEED to auto, it just ensures minion kills. Karma doesn't NEED to Auto, but it helps pick up 1 straggler. Brand doesn't NEED to auto. None of these champs NEED to auto. Ahri does, because her early game mana costs consume her in 6 casts and she has almost no core mana regen. Morgana certainly doesn't NEED to auto. 3) Swain, Karthus both have build in mana sustain. Fizz refunds mana. Annie Refunds Mana. There are a ton of no cost or energy builds like Yasuo. 4) You literally picked about 9 champs who actually all control lane more than an ahri does, either through clear, or through being an early + Ignite killer. The two who are worse clearers are both level 2 killers.
I have a question. In what world do you live in that your lane opponent lets you walk up, blow all your abilities on minions, then melee auto attack them all without killing you? It must be a very whimsical land indeed. Your entire point of comparing numbers is 100% completely meaningless lmao
Azadethe (NA)
: The problem with Ahri's waveclear isn't really the fact that she scales as game goes on. For about the first 7 levels, Q chunks out her mana so hard that she actually tends to rely on Auto attacks for 80% of minion clears, which is really bad because other mid laners have MUCH more mana efficient clears, and most have skills that punish auto attack clearers. Vel, Fizz, Yasuo, Syndra..... all have far better mana sustain for a mid clear than Ahri. I generally think if built right Ahri is broken. But..... rushing Morellonomicon isn't always the right path, and the other paths leave her starving for mana for a bit. I also think most people don't play Ahri right. She has components players completely ignore, and people focus on her Q way too much, even when W is almost spammable. She just has no real early game unless the opponents are dumb and walk into charms or turret dive her. P.S. I don't know many mids with worse wave clear than Ahri. Please enlighten me.
> For about the first 7 levels, Q chunks out her mana so hard that she actually tends to rely on Auto attacks for 80% of minion clears Lol no it doesnt. It actually doesnt cost much at all at earlier levels. Legit 65 mana. Hate to be that beaer of bad news, but no champ instaclears casters a level 1. The last one to do it was Taliyah and she got huge nerfs for it. > which is really bad because other mid laners have MUCH more mana efficient clears Nope. Every single other mid laner in the game relies on more than just abilities to clear early. Every single other one has to auto as well. Literally ***every*** single one > all have far better mana sustain for a mid clear than Ahri. there arent many midlaners with built in mana sustain. Gonna have to be more specific > P.S. I don't know many mids with worse wave clear than Ahri. Please enlighten me. {{champion:131}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:131}}
: There is a huge amount of irony behind the Janna whining.
Hi, I complain about her and don't play either of those champs. Where is your God now?
: Yeah but you need to show up when everyone is screaming bloody murder about the tank meta. It's clearly the best meta of all of them. But the ePeen commands that there is no self-worth without shit talk and insta kills so the ADC meta always comes back.
Ummmm which tank meta? There was that Cinderhulk meta where tanks did more damage just by standing close to you than dedicated damage dealers
: > [{quoted}](name=Shuriman God,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ufxsKW5U,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-10-03T15:48:23.950+0000) > > So does Syndra and Viktor (yes, lost chapter and the Hex-Core Upgrade is comparable to a full Morellonomicon). > So does pretty much any AP mid if we're being honest here. > > The Ahri mains saying she has no waveclear are delusional. Weak early wave clear...and it's very possitionally dependant at all points in the game.
You need to play a champ that actually does have garbage waveclear because you're making it apparent that you don't know what you're talking about
: 1 good reason riot should leave janna OP
This is some extraordinarily bad logic
AzeNRyGG (EUW)
: RIot fucking me in my promos
You now we can just look up your matches and see youre lying right?
: Kog Maw with Targon and Lucian destroying mId laners?
> And why is Lucian now one of the best Mid laners I've seen? Lol 44% win rate. LC$ meta sheeping at its finest
: Hard for me to fully understand why people think trundle's ult is such a hard counter to tanks
: Honestly, if ADCs were to so much now starts buying Relic Shield...
You're missing the point here. The ADC is starting relic shield so the support can get their broken support items sooner. But hey, blame the AD amirite?
Reelix (EUW)
: From 5 minutes to 30 minutes? wtf?
That seems about right. You get punished the more frequently you decide to waste everyone elses' time. Remember that you dodging just wasted 9 other people's time. I do not suggest dodging again anytime soon if you think 30 minutes is bad
: ADC's building Targon's for a big shield.
ADCs build Targon? Since when? The new thing is first buy relic and selling it eventually.
SephAgro (NA)
: except no one said that. sorry but this time its objectively true
> except no one said that buuuulllllllllllssshhiiiiitttttttt
: At least Sated Devourer was decently balanced because either both teams had it or Lee Sin/Elise could equalize in ealry game power, plus Rageblade had not been buffed yet.
So decently balanced that it was removed from the game. You gotta take the nostalgia glasses off
: Season 5 maybe was not perfect but it was fun..
In season 5: "SEASON 5 SUCKS BRING BACK SEASON 2!!!!!"
Suitaro (NA)
: Tank update wasn't a tank update?
> making 3 tanks far too reliable+ Rammus {{champion:3}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:32}} The only tanks that got shafted were {{champion:78}} {{champion:111}} Tanks are extremely strong right now. I dont even understand this thread.
Ahris (NA)
: It is dumb. Zed doesn't really have any counters in lane, a lane bully, scales well into mid and lategame.
> Zed doesn't really have any counters in lane Is this sarcasm or serious?
Kuri Kun (NA)
: We should add trading to League Of Legends
Or it'll turn into an absolute cesspit like CS:GO skins
: Regar has 52.3% win rate 5% pick rate after buff
> if you want a melee that stands a chance in this meta to kill an adc pick him {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:91}}
: I just realized there are only a few limited mixed damage champs left in the game
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Juice (EUNE)
: Renekton has a 48% win rate in a supposedly early game meta
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FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Lee Sin in my lane at 3 minutes
You should be expecting the possibilty of a gank from practically any jungler at 2:50 (well earlier than that if they take a gamble on a level 2 gank) This isnt just Lee Sin
: i would rather have cait ivern karma back then this heal barrier ardent shit
So you could have a Heal Barrier Cait with Karma and Ivern spamming shields with Ardent?
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZqetsmH7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-14T15:09:37.035+0000) > > Which "old towers"? There have been times where towers are far weaker then this. Need to specify season 5 towers . the ones where t2 gave you a shield.
No thanks. The meta of "waveclear behind towers for 40 minutes every game" was tremendously boring
GigglesO (NA)
: Not that much happened to towers, damage just went up...
Thilmer (EUW)
: Completely losing it after seeing Brand recomended items
Top left corner. Click recommended. Drag down his Mid lane recommend items. Fixed. Literally even more buffs specifically for mid Brand on the PBE right now. Chill out.
Ekkô (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SSJ Blue Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jm1E3QUf,comment-id=00000001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-14T21:14:24.100+0000) > > Well you would be wrong because this is my (Eedat's) second account. Kind of hard to play together seeing how we both cant play Monkeyman Maybe one of you could play janna, that seems to be both of your back up champions. Like you said on your other account, people on this board have 5-6 accounts. Since you've been playing since s5 is it hard to believe you have three accounts, one back up level 30 and this level 17 one you haven't gotten around to capping? :) oh well enjoy shit posting in gameplay.
He told me to play Janna when I get autofiled because shes braindead easy lol
Ekkô (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jm1E3QUf,comment-id=000000010000000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-14T21:05:49.106+0000) > > Yeah so much worse than people who have 5 accounts they use to to upvote and downvote things they agree or disagree with. > > Maybe you should try making some friends sometime > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I'm actually not completely sure you're not Eedat's second account considering the similarity between your OP.GG's and the fact you haven't played a game together in months.
Ew. I'm a glorious sololane Monkey master race and he's a filthy jungle Monkey main
Ekkô (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jm1E3QUf,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-14T20:47:00.122+0000) > > Yeah its almost like we're friends or something. So basically he cries about people disagreeing with his post on the boards and you rush to the thread to make it seem like his opinions hold water. That's embarassing.
Yeah so much worse than people who have 5 accounts they use to to upvote and downvote things they agree or disagree with. Maybe you should try making some friends sometime {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
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