: is there a build that allows her to get all her upgrades? Even if the passives on said items don't make sense for her effectively, and what's the power bump like from having all 3 evolved? Also first.
> [{quoted}](name=MalrothDragonia,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=oEEngRkl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-26T22:30:56.832+0000) > > is there a build that allows her to get all her upgrades? Even if the passives on said items don't make sense for her effectively, and what's the power bump like from having all 3 evolved? Also first. from the testing I've done on PBE, I really like going for gunblade, lichbane, berserker greaves, statikk, IE, and Hurricane. It gives all the upgrades, good burst and sustained damage
: The identity of assassins getting a kit that allows them to easily kill people then getting rewarded for it is a bad identity in the first place as is assassins riddling off low cooldown high damage spells. The amount of damage most assassin spells do they should be on near 20 second cooldowns for non ultimate spells. Like i said that her passive resetting her spells is bad design and feels bad to be on the receiving end of. P.s. Why can damage carries reset their ultimates but {{champion:26}} who's ultimate is basicly a conditional heal lose the ability to reset his ultimate and its still a super long cooldown. I mean you could complain about shitting on identity but {{champion:266}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:19}} fighters get their identity shit on more than anyone, while safe damage carries get treated like golden children for waveing around flashy and lower cooldown spells .
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-03-17T00:34:59.623+0000) > > The identity of assassins getting a kit that allows them to easily kill people then getting rewarded for it is a bad identity in the first place as is assassins riddling off low cooldown high damage spells. The amount of damage most assassin spells do they should be on near 20 second cooldowns for non ultimate spells. Like i said that her passive resetting her spells is bad design and feels bad to be on the receiving end of. > P.s. Why can damage carries reset their ultimates but {{champion:26}} who's ultimate is basicly a conditional heal lose the ability to reset his ultimate and its still a super long cooldown. > I mean you could complain about shitting on identity but {{champion:266}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:19}} fighters get their identity shit on more than anyone, while safe damage carries get treated like golden children for waveing around flashy and lower cooldown spells . I feel like most of them kept their identities after their reworks
: The identity of assassins getting a kit that allows them to easily kill people then getting rewarded for it is a bad identity in the first place as is assassins riddling off low cooldown high damage spells. The amount of damage most assassin spells do they should be on near 20 second cooldowns for non ultimate spells. Like i said that her passive resetting her spells is bad design and feels bad to be on the receiving end of. P.s. Why can damage carries reset their ultimates but {{champion:26}} who's ultimate is basicly a conditional heal lose the ability to reset his ultimate and its still a super long cooldown. I mean you could complain about shitting on identity but {{champion:266}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:19}} fighters get their identity shit on more than anyone, while safe damage carries get treated like golden children for waveing around flashy and lower cooldown spells .
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-03-17T00:34:59.623+0000) > > The identity of assassins getting a kit that allows them to easily kill people then getting rewarded for it is a bad identity in the first place as is assassins riddling off low cooldown high damage spells. The amount of damage most assassin spells do they should be on near 20 second cooldowns for non ultimate spells. Like i said that her passive resetting her spells is bad design and feels bad to be on the receiving end of. > P.s. Why can damage carries reset their ultimates but {{champion:26}} who's ultimate is basicly a conditional heal lose the ability to reset his ultimate and its still a super long cooldown. Unlike other characters assassins do not have any cc or, most of them, don't have a way to get out after going in. So you are also considering kha's e trist's W and all other reset spells bad design correct?
: kats passive is pretty toxic to me (getting a kill isnt enough of a reward got to get extra things too that goes for all the assassins who get resets and talon who's e is on a 2 second cooldown but doesnt cost 120 mana each time you use it). not to mention that her damage scaling is pretty ridiculous without haveing low base damage its still good base damage. mostly id like to see her daggers the passive damage from picking them up go down and her ult damage to go down but she gains the ability to use w and q during her ult without canceling it. Katarina's passive needs to be lessened so killing 1 person doesnt reset all of her skills
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-16T22:55:33.495+0000) > > kats passive is pretty toxic to me not to mention that her damage scaleing is pretty redicilous without haveing low base damage its still good base damage. > mostly id like to see her daggers the passive damage from picking them up go down and her ult damage to go down but she gains the ability to use w and q during her ult without canceling it. > Katarina's passive needs to be lessened so killing 1 person doesnt reset all of her skills I think that most of what you said would simply destroy her identity and make her a completly different champion. Also being able to use spells in her ult would be completly broken and make her even stronger even if the damage is nerfed.
: All the AD assassins are OP. And their items are too strong.
> [{quoted}](name=fuffychan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-16T22:51:37.361+0000) > > All the AD assassins are OP. And their items are too strong. Not every single AD assassin is op. Yes lethality might seem a bit overwhelming, but it's getting better and better
: Shes not OP. Stop.
> [{quoted}](name=fuffychan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-16T22:41:15.926+0000) > > Shes not OP. Stop. I am not saying that she's op, but she is a little strong Imo
: A little note on 1 >1) This one is the most important one in my eyes and one that needs to be done: give an indicator for both players on the passive dagger's range. Where you are and aren't safe. This would be rather difficult since the AOE originates on Katarina's character, not the dagger. It's triggered by Katarina touching the dagger circle, but the actual aoe is centered around her.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kchcEiEv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-16T21:52:01.506+0000) > > A little note on 1 > > This would be rather difficult since the AOE originates on Katarina's character, not the dagger. It's triggered by Katarina touching the dagger circle, but the actual aoe is centered around her. I totally agree, but it's one of the main complaints coming from the community. How can you play against something that you can't even know the range it has
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: > [{quoted}](name=Why feed Kata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZsOQZIK1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-06T03:23:36.811+0000) > > the new kat is pretty damn strong in laning phase, but if you play really safe (undertower) lvl 2-3-4 where her biggest powerspikes are and you don't give up fb you should be able to beat her lvl 6 with most champs. I know it sounds weird, but trust me 375 damage over 2.5 second isn't as much as the burst of most other mid laners So pretend she's riven, got'cha.
> [{quoted}](name=LiptonSwagger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZsOQZIK1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-06T03:24:30.943+0000) > > So pretend she's riven, got'cha. yup pretty much, but unlike riven, she falls off pretty damn hard
: So how do you lane against new kat?
the new kat is pretty damn strong in laning phase, but if you play really safe (undertower) lvl 2-3-4 where her biggest powerspikes are and you don't give up fb you should be able to beat her lvl 6 with most champs. I know it sounds weird, but trust me 375 damage over 2.5 second isn't as much as the burst of most other mid laners
: Your main champ is now your roommate. How screwed are you?
{{champion:55}} is that bad? if she decides to kill me I die, but if I get to be friends with her it'd be awesome right? :D
: Apox Gaming is LF A GOLD/PLAT Jungle FOR CLS 300 PRIZE POOL!
IGN: Why feed Kata RANK: gold 1 TOP 3 CHAMPS: {{champion:32}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:2}} CAN YOU MAKE SCHEDULE: yes I can PROS(Optional): good teamplayer CONS(Optional): inconsistent
: There is nothing wrong with %**Missing**HP on Assassins. Or 3-hit passives, for what it's worth. I mean, what Assassin doesn't take Thunderlord? And that's a 3-hit passive.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurs7,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=QjJgio3P,comment-id=00cc0001,timestamp=2016-08-18T12:52:05.879+0000) > > There is nothing wrong with %**Missing**HP on Assassins. Or 3-hit passives, for what it's worth. I mean, what Assassin doesn't take Thunderlord? And that's a 3-hit passive. tbh it wouldn't fit Kat at all Imo
Statikk (NA)
: She currently dose not have any % HP damage, true damage, or 3 hit passives. No promises though. =)
> [{quoted}](name=Statikk,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=QjJgio3P,comment-id=00cc0000,timestamp=2016-08-17T20:53:31.931+0000) > > She currently dose not have any % HP damage, true damage, or 3 hit passives. > > No promises though. =) yay :D
: Assassin Roster Update - Katarina
please tell me she won't have any % damage or true damage or 3 hits passive I'm so hyped for the rework tough. Can't wait to try it out when it comes out
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: Mid Year Mage Updates - Annie Direction
If you guys want to give some more power to tibbers to make him feels less useless when he's just a walking sunfire cape why not do something like every let's say 5 seconds for example there is a burst of flame coming out of him in a certain area around him dealing some damage? Imo it would make it feel more usefull
Datsui (NA)
: You should even try just restarting the client and logging back in.
that's what I had to do to get out of base :(
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alvisez (EUW)
: heimer w and thunderlord?
yes, heimer's w is actually 5 missiles counter separetly, so if 3 hits it counts for thunderlord

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