Rioter Comments
: Senna needs nerfs
I made a big post about her not needing infinite stacking range and got like 20 down votes so I deleted it. People get extremely defensive of new characters, idk why - better they don't have to be gutted quickly.
: When can we talk about Kindred's passive and how Senna's overshadows hers?
Yeah, Kindred's Passive sucks... the mechanics suck, the bonuses are confusing, and take a lot of stacks to have meaning. But i dunno when or if they'll ever do some work on Kindred. But their old passive for sure made a lot more sense, even if it always had the awful hunt minigame.
Rioter Comments
Kivolan (NA)
: Toning Down Ekko's Safety & Reliability
The 2.25 second stun is what's way too much, that thing stuns in an AOE longer than most ultimates. Yeh it's kinda hard to hit, but in teamfights it's really a lot easier, especially in objectives and choke-points like in Baron fights. It's just way too game winning for a normal ability (attached to a pretty good assassin with excellent survival).
: Riot can you remove the expiration date on Prestige Points?
I'm OK with them expiring as long as they don't do them again next year. If they are, then having them expire makes little sense and yeh, they should just carryover...
Moody P (NA)
: How is Kennen not a t1 VGU candidate
You sound a bit more frustrated about Kennen than thinking he genuinely needs work. His gameplay is unique and not bad either, and yeh sure there's not much a melee can do about him but there's not much he can do either. Compared to most ranged tops he has some of the lowest kill pressure so he's not really an abusive champion. His powerspikes also involve him leaving lane making him lose lane in the long-run to splitpushing. Not saying he couldn't use work, his visuals are pretty bad by today's standards, but much like Amumu,Riven, Teemo, Jax, and so on this year they gave them a VFX update instead as their vgu/mini-vgu's are being pushed back since at least their gameplay still works fine.
: she's not meant to be a carry. Being a marksman doesn't automatically make that champion an ADC. Shes a marksman support in that she can deal consistent damage at a range, that doesn't mean she has to be the carry for the team
: Senna: The "support" ADC
So I was watching August's stream and he explained rather well one of the things that is going to hold her back as an ADC is a very long attack point which "basically roots her".. Attack Point isn't a stat that's talked about a lot, you won't find it in the wiki, but basically when somebody starts to attack they have a few frames before the attack occurs (aka frontswing), Xayah for instance has a 10 frame attack frame, which is considerably quick, and these values are decreased by attackspeed (meaning xayah gets down to basically instant attack startup). One part of League where Attack Point is mentioned is Thresh, who's passive reads attack "wind-up"(attack point) is increased by only 25% of every 1% attackspeed (0.25%), so no matter how much attackspeed Tresh builds, he's always slowed down. So what does this mean for Senna? First her attackspeed efficiency is awful, Lethal Tempo+Rageblade+5 witts End only gets you to 1.63. And because the attack point is so slow, combined with not much attackspeed to speed it up, if you try and attack move quickly you'll actually end up cancelling autos because she doesn't finish her animation. You actually have to root yourself to auto even in the best case scenario. So yeah, I don't think this is going to be some busted ADC at all. Combining all this with reduced critical damage I'm not saying she won't be able to do the role, but I don't think Riot is going to have to restrict items on her like the OP suggested..
: Senna: The "support" ADC
She's an ADC with some shields and heals.. however take note that a ranged character with no inherent scaling with critical strike or attackspeed might as well be a mage, there's dozens of ranged characters who aren't adcs. Even if her cannon gimmick does gain power, range, and critical chance over time, it's also said to be "slow attacking", this is important. For instance Jhin barely makes the crossing like as an ADC due to his slow attack speed, but he has a ton of crit/attackspeed scaling, AD scaling, and he has his 4th shot. So really just how good this character is as a carry?
: yea he really need a vu update, not gameplay change tho. his kit fine, but his visuals... i like the lines in legends of runeterra but i wish they did it with his current voice in the game, i wish they dont change his voice if they decided to update him, it fits him very well, but he need more lines
> [{quoted}](name=Shãdow Blãde,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVE2jjRb,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-10-28T05:03:26.770+0000) > > yea he really need a vu update, not gameplay change tho. his kit fine, but his visuals... > i like the lines in legends of runeterra but i wish they did it with his current voice in the game, i wish they dont change his voice if they decided to update him, it fits him very well, but he need more lines They can't always get voice actors back, and a lot has changed since 2010 in terms of what the vision of the character is, but I think yeah, you want to keep a lot of things mostly the same, I wasn't suggesting any radical departures.. (and it's not like I make any decisions, just hoping he gets some work...).
: I agree his visuals and VO are just an utter disaster and especially a waste of potential. But and I know this is a pretty popular sentiment among his player base, he really doesn't need a gameplay change to go with that, he has strengths and weaknesses, he has decent depth and popularity, he is functional, no reason to get messy in that.
> [{quoted}](name=Metallikaiser,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVE2jjRb,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-10-26T14:56:08.801+0000) > > I agree his visuals and VO are just an utter disaster and especially a waste of potential. But and I know this is a pretty popular sentiment among his player base, he really doesn't need a gameplay change to go with that, he has strengths and weaknesses, he has decent depth and popularity, he is functional, no reason to get messy in that. Well I wasn't recommending anything radical, it's basically the same spells with a few things moved around but functioning the same + more utility. But yeah i agree with visual/audio aspect is the #1 priority.
: Not ONLY does the Aatrox Victorious Skin look bad but....
I know he was doing well in the spring, but why didn't Riot know this was 100% due to his numbers being absolutely broken and not his ability to make big plays, play skill, or do anything actually interesting? They must had known because they gutted him soon after that time. He was only allowed to exist because of his numbers, the exact thing his rework was supposed to change about him. Should be renamed from Victorious Aatrox to Failure Boris.
Rioter Comments
Zeanix (OCE)
: Can we give Kalista a gameplay rework too?
Her passive really holds her back, it should be removed altogether or this champion is forever just doomed. Yes it's a unique ability and part of her identity, but it's also the entire reason she's been in such a state since day 1 and has been iceboxed for years now. The skill burden is way too high, be bad with it and she's useless. be good with it and she's way too strong; thus she has to be weak as hell at everything for the sake of the top 10% of Kalista players. Even Draven doesn't suffer such bad fate, you can be bad with his Axes but you can recast his axes. Being good with Draven axes has never made him insanely good. (prepared to be downvoted, whatever,.)
: Ohmwrecker
Sure, Ohmwrecker... But what about Wriggle? His item Wriggle's Lantern has has been missing from the game for years, as well as Grez (Grez's Spectral Latern) and there's nothing else named after either of them still in the game! Oh, as well as Ohmwrecker, With the removal of TT Woggle's Deathcap will be gone from League (though it's moved to TFT). Apparently these prizes expire. Which is fine I guess - unless they removed Total Biscuit or Tim Buckley (Represented by his character Zeke), who had by far way more referrals than anybody else, and were both denied their prize of making a champion. So yeah Zeke's and Total Biscuits should always stay.
Sydney26 (EUW)
: If u were Riot what would u have done for Preseason ???
They're not done announcing things for the pre-season. It was a first look, there's more things to be announced for the pre-season.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UmtknA3O,comment-id=001600000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T22:40:08.906+0000) Literally none of the legendary skins released this year have got one. If he is getting a legendary, what makes it so special?
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UmtknA3O,comment-id=0016000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T22:46:43.661+0000) > > Literally none of the legendary skins released this year have got one. If he is getting a legendary, what makes it so special? It's Thresh, he's like the poster boy of support and a part of an upcming major event so, why not..
: > [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UmtknA3O,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-10-13T22:34:37.315+0000) No he doesn't. He has a prestige edition coming up, and legendary skins don't get prestige editions.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UmtknA3O,comment-id=00160000,timestamp=2019-10-13T22:37:32.184+0000) > > No he doesn't. He has a prestige edition coming up, and legendary skins don't get prestige editions. Do we know for sure yet? The whole prestige skin thing is pretty new.
: If Senna is next, please don't treat her like Kassadin/Kai'Sa.
I know Thresh is probably being updated, since he has a legendary skin come up.. Lucian, he could use a little update too wouldn't be at all surprised if they did it last year when they made High Noon Lucian, since champions are usually in development for about 2 years. They probably didn't update Kassadin because well, they don't care that much about him, his Halloween skin is the biggest thing he's got in 5 years. But eventually they'll do something with him, he's a pizza feet model with no feet.
Akrid415 (NA)
: Can anything be done about smurfing?
Well, I got a few ideas; 1. Let people make level 30 accounts to start, make all the cheapest and starting champions free (like a pool of 12). Then let them play ranked right away. 1b. Or, Riot could just sell level 30 accounts for like $5 or $10. Why not sell these accounts instead of giving it away to the black market? 2. Give(or sell) players the option to reset their MMR at two fixed parts of the year. Then people won't bother making new accounts to figure out if they're hardstuck (or think they are...). 3. Players who int on some champs to win on others should be more easily detected and banned. These kinda people are the worst and they often get away with it for far too long before they're banned. Elave got to ruin 600 games before a *reddit post* got him banned. 4. Players with smurf accounts because.. no good reason, Riot can tell who they are, and it should be made sure none of their accounts are more than one division under their main.
: Why does Shyvana, a Juggernaut/Fighter, have 200% AP scaling.
Shyvanna isn't really a champion that fits in these class definitions neatly, as she's old and a pretty unique character. But I'm sure Riot will make her an ordinary Juggernaut who only scales well with AD when they eventually vgu her.
: Pantheon can stack conqueror in 1 second.
> [{quoted}](name=LightswornLance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uIoA0EGj,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-10-11T02:26:31.655+0000) > > Pantheon can stack conqueror in 1 second. Sure, I guess he can. Although the cooldown for it is a lot more than Garen and takes more setup. But why the hell am I having to address other characters who can stack conq fast? This isn't about who can stack this rune the fastest, this is about Garen's access to it on an 8 second cooldown - combined with everything else he does being overbearing to lane against - to the point he wins match-ups he used to lose.
: Garen proccing CONQ spins is too much.
JUST LOL suggesting I go grasp Fiora like against her hardest matchups? I guess you don't play Fiora but Garen used to be the easiest matchup, now running grasp is supposed to be the thing like you're fighting a Vladamir or something, I guess I'll take ignite while I'm at it LUL. Also saying Darius procs CONQ faster than Garen? Darius cannot get 5 hits in 1.5 seconds like Garen can. Neither can Illaoi. Mordekaiser and Urgot, about tied; but they have much more cooldowns than Garen, until Urgot hits level 9 that is. Sorry but Garen is just broken. But I guess Riot will never hear it cuz the Garen mains will just fanboy the threads and downvote them and tell people to "gitgud".
: He's the immobilest champion in lol. U shouldn't beat him 1v1 that easily . Where fiora could see some nerfs
> [{quoted}](name=DEMACIAA BABY,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uIoA0EGj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-10T21:26:13.519+0000) > > He's the immobilest champion in lol. U shouldn't beat him 1v1 that easily . > > Where fiora could see some nerfs Whatever fanboy, I'm not saying Fiora is too weak or strong, maybe she should be nerfed, the fact is Garen is broken right now. I'm sorry I said anything wrong about your precious favorite champ.{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Rioter Comments
: After worlds riot have no excuse to not look at melee top laners
Maybe if the caster minion agro range and attack range was longer, actually just make there be different caster minions on the top lane, they could be called say "gunner minions", have 750 range instead of 550. As for agro range? I dunno whatever actually causes them to agro when the ranged character is on the backline.
Salron88 (EUW)
: does heimerdinger have any weakneses that melee champs can abuse toplane?
One of the very lowest base armors and armor growths in the game.
: Can't even play a game of League without the client shitting itself
There's a client bug which I think is in win7 but not win10 (i had it a couple months ago when i was on win7). Basically when the game starts up but nothing happens; you need to go into task manager and close "League of Legends.exe", named "League of Legends (TM) Client". That will return you to the reconnect screen, press reconnect. If nothing happens repeat until it works, usually takes 3 tries at most. They should really fix the damn thing soon, so many remakes the last few months it's unreal.
: New Player Experience is terrible - Smurfs need to be brought under control
You propose to stop smurfing by having accounts with too many deaths and bad items be autobanned? I think it'd accomplish the opposite since smurfs generally are stomping on new players, new players who make bad items... The only real solution at this point is let people buy level 30 accounts from Riot, it could include enough champions to go play ranked in. Basically they need to get the smurfs into their goal right away by any means rather than having them ruin 200 games to get to level 30.
: I Have No Reason to Hover My Pick in Solo Queue
It's far better to hover your pick. 1. Less chance the pick is banned. 2. More chance people consider champs that make sense with yours.. Unless you're a Yasuo player, in which case just gtfo :D (/jk).
Keyru (NA)
: Boards Moderation Discord Verification
: Pantheon E should really be damage reduction instead of immunity
It shouldn't block turret shots, otherwise the 100% damage reduction is fine, he can still be hit from behind and there's other ways to nerf it.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Worldwide plat+ stats have kai'sa 6% more picked than cait (22% cait 28% kaisa) That delta only widens the higher Elo you check. So, you sir, are ill informed.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tqjAIg0a,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-09-25T01:57:17.984+0000) > > Worldwide plat+ stats have kai'sa 6% more picked than cait (22% cait 28% kaisa) > > That delta only widens the higher Elo you check. > > So, you sir, are ill informed. Ill-informed? I'm looking at all ranks which is 100% of games and you're looking at Plat+ Stats which is less than 10% of games. In all games, Caitlyn has a high pick rate, and she has had it for years longer.
: AREN'T YOU TIRED OF KAI'SA?
I'm not tired of Kai'Sa, I'm tired of Caitlyn who is the most popular popular champion in the game and had been the most popular champion in the game for the better part of the past 10 years. I suppose You might be more tired of Kai'Sa than Caitlyn if you're Korean Challenger, but otherwise..
Zeanix (OCE)
: Why is Qiyana getting a prestige skin when she was released 3 months ago?
I guess they expected her to be a little more popular than the 100th most picked champ in the game. {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
Nrsh (EUNE)
: How People Feel About Playing as Mordekaiser - Survey Results
So I played new Mordekaiser 44 times this season, with 68% winrate and a 3.20:1 KDA. Some people myself included would say, wow why don't you just spam Mordekaiser more, you could probably climb with him.. Well let nobody ever accuse me of actually being serious about climbing, the fact is I just get bored playing Mordekaiser... There's one Runepage: Conq+Triumph+Legend:Tenacity+Coup De Grace, Taste of Blood, Ravenous Hunter. Maybe you could change a couple of the yellows out (except conq), but that's basically it, there isn't a better runepage for Morde. You walk in proc conq and hope people pile on you so you can kill them all or at least give them one hell of a medical bill. It's a lot of fun but relying on my opponents stupidity to instead of just avoid easy as hell self and actually want to FIGHT gets tired after a while. It's also gigabusted at lowelo (I am lowelo!). Fortunately his Item builds are very flexible, I've had success with going more towards AP, more towards Tank - various combinations therein. Different AP utility items, maybe Rylais, or maybe Morello, or Hourglass... Sometimes even a Nashors makes sense. A Thornmail or ZZRot can be good buys, lots of stuff works on Morde which is fun... But really, CONQ is doing most the work. CONQ is a busted rune for the healing and Morde is the ultimate abuser along with Katarina, Urgot, Renekton, Jax, Yasuo, and Riven. Conclusion: Get rid of CONQ healing, it's the worst, it is a lowelo stomping rune and breaks certain champions and has them perform well beyond their specifications. Then we can talk about what to do with Mordekaiser. Conq having such excellent synergy is a curse. Maybe Ravenous Hunter needs a looksie as well...
DrDubb (NA)
: Anyone else feels like there is TOO MUCH CDR in the game?
You seen the overcapped crit transcendence build? It's proof that CDR is too much right now You take some champion like, {{champion:92}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:11}} or it'd probably work on many others, just ones I've seen... You make some combination of: {{item:3161}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3046}}, throw in a {{item:3139}} / {{item:3026}} you're already overcapped by 20% on 3 items anyway. With transcendance you hit about 500 ad with crit. So insanely high damage, good survival, 40% cdr, there's basically no tradeoffs. Older League had problems, but you usually had to chose if you were going for CDR or if you were going for damage, or a mix of damage and survival.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TEEgoFM1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-09-22T09:13:13.002+0000) > > The ult is lifted from Batrider in Dota, Flaming Lasso. There are many ways to nerf an ability like that, I'll give you a little list of nerfs to Flaming Lasso: > > 1. Disarms Batrider for the duration. > 2. Reduced Flaming Lasso cast range from 175 to 100. > 3. Increased Cooldown from 90/70/50 to 90/75/60 > 4. Increased Manacost from 150 to 225. > 5. Increased Cooldown from 90/75/60 to 100/80/60. > 6. Increased Cooldown from 100/80/60 to 100/90/80. > > It's still strong, an ability like that is always strong because it involves a hard CC + manual displacement. But yeah if there's no way to nerf it? BS actually. Skarner can only cast his Q while ulting, usually 2, which is abysmal damage. Its range Is melee, how shorter can you make It? If you increase the cd, qss will effectively negate It. Really the only thing you can do is to increase its manacost, and i'm not sure of what can you buff for such tradeoff
> [{quoted}](name=Predatorator,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TEEgoFM1,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-09-22T12:29:31.768+0000) > > Skarner can only cast his Q while ulting, usually 2, which is abysmal damage. > Its range Is melee, how shorter can you make It? > If you increase the cd, qss will effectively negate It. > Really the only thing you can do is to increase its manacost, and i'm not sure of what can you buff for such tradeoff Skarner's ult range is 350 which is greater than melee range, but close. Batrider's Ult is less than melee range, the standard melee ranger in Dota is 150. He has to be as close as you can get to start his ultimate, which makes his initiation have to be perfect, it gives him some room to have some strengths outside his ultimate.
: How often have you been pissed b/c a champ was too tanky?
A lot lately, Dr. Mundo is popular now. Also, anybody who makes {{item:3053}}, I swear that item makes any damage champ a massive pain in the butt (looking at you {{champion:39}} and {{champion:24}} )
: "Skarner's ult so strong that the rest of his kit has to be kept in check"
The ult is lifted from Batrider in Dota, Flaming Lasso. There are many ways to nerf an ability like that, I'll give you a little list of nerfs to Flaming Lasso: 1. Disarms Batrider for the duration. 2. Reduced Flaming Lasso cast range from 175 to 100. 3. Increased Cooldown from 90/70/50 to 90/75/60 4. Increased Manacost from 150 to 225. 5. Increased Cooldown from 90/75/60 to 100/80/60. 6. Increased Cooldown from 100/80/60 to 100/90/80. It's still strong, an ability like that is always strong because it involves a hard CC + manual displacement. But yeah if there's no way to nerf it? BS actually.
: How about just deleting Skarner from the game?
VGU Skarner into a cute girl, it's a license to print money. Problem is the audience who are into gem scorpions is pretty low. (To be serious, I think his spire mechanic is BS, it makes me never want to play this champion, it makes me feel bad for anybody who does too).
: Lucian is forming a party to rescue Senna, which 4 Champs would you choose to fill out his roster?
She's dead. Ok so you need... {{champion:83}} To raise the body. {{champion:266}} Need some Blood Magic to bring the body to life {{champion:412}} To give back her soul. {{champion:203}} Probably needed. Will turn out to be a monster tho.
Jenivie (NA)
: Qiyanas scoreboard portrait looks very zoomed out and awkward
Totally right, problem is they do so these assets as separate assets and they totally get lazy lately about framing things correctly, especially in the last year.
: You are great at portraying there are no problems
Rather than a universal damage reduction, I think an HP increase would work far better and cleaner. Everybody gets say, 50 more starting HP - now all damage is effectively reduced aside just a few max HP spells (which are weak in early levels). This also eliminates the need for turret plating.
Antenora (EUW)
: While it's a good change on paper you'd need to take into consideration that she isn't performing badly in both Jungle or mid lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=97AHethl,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-09-19T16:00:57.426+0000) > > While it's a good change on paper you'd need to take into consideration that she isn't performing badly in both Jungle or mid lane. I know. But she nontheless isn't picked and her mains and players do not generally enjoy her as much now.
: That's why people complain about the LOL report system...
Only 18 games? THat's nothing. There's a people who troll 1000 games before they get banned.
: she is not in the mid lane tab because her play rate in mid is low. its about play rate not what riot thinks. but i agree with the rest
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=97AHethl,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-09-19T13:16:26.349+0000) > > she is not in the mid lane tab because her play rate in mid is low. its about play rate not what riot thinks. > > but i agree with the rest Oh I know, and she was in the midlane tab a while ago, she's fallen off recently, which is based on what people are picking; not what Riot wants. It's not as if Riot wanted her to be a jungler either, it was stated in their changes what they wanted: to make her more accessible and less picked in professional - which we all know didn't happen. She become a staple jungler for a while there, which Riot didn't plan for, she didn't even receive recommended Jungle items for months all the while Riot tried to nerf her for a Jungle. And I don't mind Taliyah being in the Jungle, it's kinda cool and may even suit her playstyle.. What I do mind is not being fun to play mid due to the loss of Q aoe. Hopefully we could keep both.
: So when is Jax gonna get reworked?
Jax will never get a full rework, he'll eventually get something like Ezreal for his graphics with some little changes but yeh that's it.
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