: Absolutely not. You would be literally removing his in game identity.. all for what _you_ believe is his 'lore identity'? Is this a joke? Shen's ult is what makes him a good pick, yes.. he gets nerfs sometimes as a result of that, indeed. But what would be the point in taking away the thing that matters most on him to make him more of a "kick ass ninja style ninja whatever the fuck".. just make a new fucking ninja champ if that's what you want. I honestly can't stand threads like these.. people really need to stop trying to force Riot into making more sweeping changes to champs that don't really need it.. There's been entirely too many poor to pointless reworks done in the past. Sure there's been some good ones too, but way too many that flat out failed.. and why take a chance for one, and two.. again, his ult/tankiness IS his identity in this game. He's extremely fun to play (for me), and effective in the right hands, even in a "weakened" state. Then again I just went 14-5 with him and could practically 1v5... I pretty much dominate to all hell and back every time I play him. Really don't even understand why people call him 'weak' much less UNPLAYABLE, give me a break.
> [{quoted}](name=USG Failsawce,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4Pyqu25j,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-18T21:32:48.395+0000) > > Then again I just went 14-5 with him Do you mind linking this game for me? It doesn't appear in your records, so I'm guessing it's on an alt account. I'd like to see what you did differently in this game. Currently, Shen is a weak pick and very niche, unless you're team has excellent coordination. Riot has even stated in the past that balancing Shen is difficult due to the power of his ult. I think it's an interesting conversation to have, whether Shen mains wouldn't mind seeing some power taken out of his ult and applied to the rest of his kit, or changed altogether. No need to be so hostile.
Heretics (EUW)
: you already took his vorpal blade. why his ult?
Kelg (NA)
: It's hard to remove something so iconic from a champ though. He's known for his powerful ult.
What if it was changed to a more limited range, like TF or panth ult? Would people be willing to accept that if it meant he got a bad ass new kit? Unless people _really_ enjoying playing around his arcane sword/defensive playstyle.
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: Perspective that inspired Ezreal: Indiana Jones is the world's worst archaeologist. He breaks his own rules, wantonly destroys priceless artifacts, and decimates countless possible UNESCO world heritage sites. And he's rarely reprimanded for such. Despite teaching that one should never trust folklore over fact, he never abides by that golden rule. He is also my very favorite film hero for all of his flaws. He doesn't need to be good or make reparations for his escapades. He is pure pulpy escapist fun. That's what I find so enchanting about Ez -- he's naturally a magic user but refuses to allow that to make him special alone -- he wants accolades and fame -- which is exactly where Jones is early in his career. He hasn't been tempered by the forces or darkness or witnessed humbling divinity. If the Lore Lords have their way, I will one day get to return to Ezreal, as I already have a very long arc of stories sketched out for our favorite gauntleted almost-hero.
Yo I'd love to see an Ez skin where he is older, grizzled, and more mature
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: "Treat people the way you want to be treated"
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HT2Jc5ed,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-19T17:09:58.322+0000) > > What if i want to be treated like shit? Without context, I would imagine this implies "you treat people like shit because you want to be treated like shit". Well ok then. If someone wants to treat people like shit in game, then I can do them a courtesy- report them and then let Riot flush them down the drain. I dont get my hands dirty with toxic kids.
: > [{quoted}](name=VonToothskie,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xON2Atq0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-05T11:12:44.581+0000) > > If you have no understanding of a champs kit at all, then you should use the practice tool or maybe play a bot game. If you have a basic understand their abilities and what to do then play away. > the only time its an issue is when someone AFKs because they're watching "how to play ____" videos during game or try to build 6 needlessly large rods on Jinx or whatever (which i've seen). > No one is obligated to be good, but putting some small effort into playing as well as you can is literally in the rules of the game. They used themselves as an example as a jungle main. Im sure they know the basics of the kit of the champ they are playing, and they obviously are not trying to do some off build like att speed mumu or something. They are playing to learn their champ in normals. People keep making excuses like you do to flame just because they are losing their normal draft game. It is silly. There is no need for any flame ESPECIALLY in normals..... because it does nothing constructive at all. Do you feel better after flaming? No. Do they after being flamed by you? No. Do they suddenly go from building 6 needlessly large rods to a more meta jinx build? No. Do they suddenly become faker after you flame them? No. So get the flame out. It does nothing but get you punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Silly Neeko,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xON2Atq0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T12:17:32.609+0000) > > They used themselves as an example as a jungle main. Im sure they know the basics of the kit of the champ they are playing, and they obviously are not trying to do some off build like att speed mumu or something. They are playing to learn their champ in normals. > > People keep making excuses like you do to flame just because they are losing their normal draft game. It is silly. There is no need for any flame ESPECIALLY in normals..... because it does nothing constructive at all. Do you feel better after flaming? No. Do they after being flamed by you? No. Do they suddenly go from building 6 needlessly large rods to a more meta jinx build? No. Do they suddenly become faker after you flame them? No. > > So get the flame out. It does nothing but get you punished. This guy gets it.
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: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 30
Are you satisfied with where the current iteration of Dark Harvest?
: i didnt play with it/against it yet, why is it so broken?
It now procs when below 50% HP, with any AA or ability, and gains a stack whether they kill or not. It does go on a 45 second CD, but some champions can abuse it if they have a multi-hitting attack (Karthus ult) as it procs on more than one, quickly building up stacks.
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: when they use a graph that literally doesn't actually graph anything, yes.
Just think about it- I got a ton of upvotes by posting a graph thats barely a graph. You should wonder what other wizardry I can perform.
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: I'm honestly curious, someone explain this to me.
If I dont like the team comp, attitude, or in general get a bad vibe from a team, Ill dodge. Id rather wait 5 minutes for a better team than spend 30 with one that I dont feel comfortable with.
: Since when can't you remake after 3 minutes?
: i wish league of legends was one man game, not team game. "Honestly what should i do here?"
Are you the Urgot? Yea, its extremely tough to carry as a top lane juggernaut right now.
: I think Trynd is more closer to Guts than Garen and Trynd hasn’t gotten a skin in a while
Maybe after a rework, Trynd could fit. But Garen has the build, the weapon, and thematically, he'd fit under the right circumstances.
: Hey odin can I ask for your thoughts on Aatrox reviving, how much damage do you think a host can take that Aatrox can salvage and recover before they ultimately give in
I would imagine it varies. Depends on the host, and if the body can ultimately withstand the power and intensity of the Darkin inhabiting. Rhaast got lucky with Kayn, who seems to be a prime vessel for Rhaast, so likely Kayn's body will last a long time (if he wins his struggle over Kayn). Aatrox is probably still looking for his prime vessel, and with Aatrox being this being of intense hatred and anger, having a body like Tryndamere's, who can prevent himself from even dying through the sheer power of his rage, it seems like a match made in heaven for Aatrox. Could you imagine Aatrox in a body that doesn't get burned out from all the power caused by his hatred and rage? Varus is still contending with the spirits of his vessel that he mashed together, which is probably preventing him from burning it out. It's not ideal, but it probably prevents Varus from shorting out the body he has, at the cost of limiting his control over it. I think the Darkin has to resonate with the vessel on some level. Take Vayne, for instance, who is consumed by her need for vengeance. Would she be a prime vessel for Varus?
: I'm not certain these skins are as universally understandable as the homages you want them to be. You pretty much have to be deep into anime to know what Guts/Beserker is, so making something that's not well known won't really make that much profit.
Yea, Berserk is pretty niche. Thats why I think theyd make great 750 RP skins, probably make them “Marauder Garen” or “Warden Swain”. Something that doesnt break the budget.
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: Getting autofilled Top lane, often.
In this meta, doing well in top as anything other than a high damagr carry, can feel meaningless when your bot or mid feeds. I often get 10-15 kills and less than 5 deaths as a top lane juggernaut main, but if the 4 other people on my team are gonna feed, it can feel pretty demoralizing. I did well all game, but it amounts to nothing when the snowball rolls uphill to top.
XeroKimo (NA)
: Ask a fill main anything about the game
1. Do you play ranked as fill? 2. What role do you find yourself often filled as? 3. If your answer to question 1 was yes, do you climb easily as fill? If no, please ignore this question
: Good news, guys: Unbiased reply to the Rioters v. Children battle simulation
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: Just got Grey Warwick
"Woe to Warwick the loyal Knight, wielding the sword of moonlight. Twas gifted by the bladed queen, her treachery remained unseen. The shadow had played it's part, and lunar blade stabbed his heart. Beware the moon, and run away lest ye be the wolf knight's prey"
: type a nice little "gg ez" too just icing on the cake.
Mmmm adding that in at the end when spanking a trash talker usually earns a friend request from him. Never gonna turn down more salt and rage from a trashboi.
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: If only men made of sand could cross the ocean, eh? :-P
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: Eh, Irelias a trash waifu anyways. (ง •̀_•́)ง
: Yep! That was me. I, too, think turrets are made of mouse farts and bird vomit.
Can we make this a permanent option for an announcer? This is too good to have fall through the cracks!
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: That Odyssey Kayn Transformation is Brutal AF
Conversely, his Shadow Assassin transformation is also really cool. He rips the orb that Rhaast is in, purges Rhaast from it, absorbs his power, and transforms into this demigod. The way his personality shifts in his voice lines is especially cool, he becomes super megalomaniacal. He's like an anime villain obtaining ultimate power
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: And these universes are confirmed to be connected?
I don't think it has been confirmed, but I figured they were somehow connected due to Rhaast being a dark star eldritch abomination and has interactions with dark star thresh. Maybe Dark Star entities are multiversal? Ora may be their lifeblood of some sort. Odyssey universe has an Emperor Jarvan for Demaxia, not sure if hes related to Dark Star Jarvan- probably multiverse counterparts... or a possible future.
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: nice analysis, maybe when he gets a VU we can really see Riot work some different martial arts into his 4 stances anyways are the 3 monks: Lee, Yorick, and Udyr? actually there's 4 u forgot Karma
Yes, Lee Sin, Yorick, and Udyr were the monks I was referencing. Karma is definitely a good edition! I think it'd be great when new Udyr gets released, Riot reveals how some of the martial arts of Ionia originated from, maybe they were taught by the spirits to better allow practitioners to wield their power? It'd be pretty cool to see Udyr to switch from style to style as he channels his spirit powers.
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Pale Mask (EUW)
: > Watchers = Outer Gods (like Yog Sothoth, outside looking in) Yes. > The way the story makes them seem to be appears to be more like Great Old Ones, but Vel Koz’s lore makes them seem more like extra dimensional deities locked outside Powerful Voidborn, like Vel'Koz, or neutral entities, like Vilemaw, are more reminiscent of Great Old Ones. They're impressive, but not near Outer God levels of power. > Nagakaboros = the Azathoth for creation? Like a Watcher antithesis? Reminds me of Gan from the Dark Tower series. I'm not so sure about that. Their roles are basically inverted here. Azathoth slumbers and the Outer Gods and their servants keep him asleep so that the universe can continue to exist. Nagakabouros wants life to exist, so her goal is directly the opposite of Azathoth's (who's nebulous, insane, and doesn't, and can't, care about existence). Nagakabouros is more similar to other Outer God here. The Watchers want everything to return to a state of non-being, so they're closer to Azathoth in this situation. > Where does Targon exist in all this? Did the Void exist before Targon? Yes. The Void is basically nonexistence; a dimension of nothingness where nothing (not even the Watchers, apparently) is real. It's always (or rather, never) existed, since time doesn't apply to it.
What I mean by the whole Nagakaboros thing, was I remember a red post during the Darkin lore event was if Nagalaboros was ever removed, they said it’d delete the whole universe basically. So it makes me think Nagaka is basically the creator/Gan/Azathoth for creation- a direct opposite of the Watchers. Like matter vs. antimatter type deal.
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