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: If only men made of sand could cross the ocean, eh? :-P
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: Eh, Irelias a trash waifu anyways. (ง •̀_•́)ง
: Yep! That was me. I, too, think turrets are made of mouse farts and bird vomit.
Can we make this a permanent option for an announcer? This is too good to have fall through the cracks!
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: That Odyssey Kayn Transformation is Brutal AF
Conversely, his Shadow Assassin transformation is also really cool. He rips the orb that Rhaast is in, purges Rhaast from it, absorbs his power, and transforms into this demigod. The way his personality shifts in his voice lines is especially cool, he becomes super megalomaniacal. He's like an anime villain obtaining ultimate power
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: And these universes are confirmed to be connected?
I don't think it has been confirmed, but I figured they were somehow connected due to Rhaast being a dark star eldritch abomination and has interactions with dark star thresh. Maybe Dark Star entities are multiversal? Ora may be their lifeblood of some sort. Odyssey universe has an Emperor Jarvan for Demaxia, not sure if hes related to Dark Star Jarvan- probably multiverse counterparts... or a possible future.
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: nice analysis, maybe when he gets a VU we can really see Riot work some different martial arts into his 4 stances anyways are the 3 monks: Lee, Yorick, and Udyr? actually there's 4 u forgot Karma
Yes, Lee Sin, Yorick, and Udyr were the monks I was referencing. Karma is definitely a good edition! I think it'd be great when new Udyr gets released, Riot reveals how some of the martial arts of Ionia originated from, maybe they were taught by the spirits to better allow practitioners to wield their power? It'd be pretty cool to see Udyr to switch from style to style as he channels his spirit powers.
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: > Watchers = Outer Gods (like Yog Sothoth, outside looking in) Yes. > The way the story makes them seem to be appears to be more like Great Old Ones, but Vel Koz’s lore makes them seem more like extra dimensional deities locked outside Powerful Voidborn, like Vel'Koz, or neutral entities, like Vilemaw, are more reminiscent of Great Old Ones. They're impressive, but not near Outer God levels of power. > Nagakaboros = the Azathoth for creation? Like a Watcher antithesis? Reminds me of Gan from the Dark Tower series. I'm not so sure about that. Their roles are basically inverted here. Azathoth slumbers and the Outer Gods and their servants keep him asleep so that the universe can continue to exist. Nagakabouros wants life to exist, so her goal is directly the opposite of Azathoth's (who's nebulous, insane, and doesn't, and can't, care about existence). Nagakabouros is more similar to other Outer God here. The Watchers want everything to return to a state of non-being, so they're closer to Azathoth in this situation. > Where does Targon exist in all this? Did the Void exist before Targon? Yes. The Void is basically nonexistence; a dimension of nothingness where nothing (not even the Watchers, apparently) is real. It's always (or rather, never) existed, since time doesn't apply to it.
What I mean by the whole Nagakaboros thing, was I remember a red post during the Darkin lore event was if Nagalaboros was ever removed, they said it’d delete the whole universe basically. So it makes me think Nagaka is basically the creator/Gan/Azathoth for creation- a direct opposite of the Watchers. Like matter vs. antimatter type deal.
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: League of MMOs, classes or class-less?
I'd like to see a sandbox MMO that takes place after the founding of the core nations. Like an EVE online type deal where players can make guild halls/structures/towns or explore Runeterra. As for classes, I think set classes are prohibitive (like WoW). Champions in league vaguely fit into so many catagories, but they all do their jobs in different ways. I think classes should be treated like Runes Reforged, let players pick how they want to play (diver, juggernaut, warden, etc.), but make their avenue of doing so completely free and open. Players can learn as many spells and abilities as they want, wear whatever gear they want and use whatever weapons they want, and customize their character accordingly with the runes page. To a limit of course, and allow respecs to be a thing. Give players full control over their characters identity, whether they want to be a blood mage juggernaut warrior, or a light armor warden that uses cutlasses from Bilgewater and Kraken priest magic. You want to be an assassin that wears heavy plate gear and wields guns? Choose the assassin runes and build how you like. Want to be a diver that's also a mage and uses a dagger? Choose those runes, build your mage to fit your goals.
: Champion Roadmap: August 2018 - Nexus
: Starting at level1?.. Hmmm My guess would be A forest gnome rogue Or A goblin ranger Depending on how you see Teemo.
I’ll give a forest gnome rogue a try. Thank you!
: What edition? I could probably build him in 2e, 3.5, and Pathfinder. Maybe 5e though I’m a bit inexperienced in that one.
: Rogue. It's thematically appropriate and doesn't use pets (which Teemo doesn't have). It's your preference, though.
This is my first D&D group I'm doing, but I'm guessing Rogues get poison, traps, and all the stuff that makes Teemo unbearable to fight against? I don't necessarily want to use the blow dart gun, so I didn't know if using a bow could work instead.
: I'd say Gnome, and Rangers don't come with a pet requirement. Particularly not in 5e.
Gnome could work. Would you say Rogue too, or Ranger?
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DeafRune (NA)
: How is it not against the rules though? If you look at the definition of surrendering it is to give up, which is literally the first thing that riot listed in the report menu. I dont even see how you could try to argue that surrendering isnt giving up. It would be like trying to argue going afk in the middle of a match isnt going afk.
Please read Umbral Regents post in this topic regarding defeatism and surrendering to educate yourself on the differences.
DeafRune (NA)
: And when a game gets hard you give up? To me that is what pushes me to try even harder then what i thought was possible before. if i cant win at 100% ill give it 110% and if thats still not enough then i loose knowing i tryed my hardest for my team and did the best i could do.
People have different values. Just because you feel one way doesn’t mean your team mates share your viewpoints. If your team collectively decides to forfeit, you don’t have to like it. But they also don’t have to be forced to adopt your values on quitting/not quitting.
DeafRune (NA)
: 1: You probably shouldent promote people breaking the rules of the game. 2: Even if all of my team is breaking the rules that doesent mean i should, Just because your adc flames you doesent mean you should flame him back right?
1. Surrendering is not rule breaking no matter how much you want it to be. 2. Since surrendering is not against the rules, invalidates this weird point you’re trying to make about surrendering being equal to flaming.
DeafRune (NA)
: Why is surrendering allowed in the game?
If you are the only guy clicking “no”, and 4 other team mates say “yes”, majority ruled. Meanwhile, it only takes 2 guys saying “no” to have their way. Resign yourself to it, or play with friends who share your views
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEyw9b0A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-31T18:24:35.558+0000) > > Just delete surrender from the main game. Done. Or, the tryhards who never surrender should learn when to quit. Not every game is winnable, so they should pull their pride out of their asses and come back down to earth where they can see things a little more clearly.
The real problem is the people who say "no" to surrendering to spite their team mates. The "never surrender" folks are not as common as the "I'm gonna say no to make them stay in here and suffer" breed.
: Why do mages got their mana regen nerfed, but AD casters don't even care about mana ?
I usually take manaflow band and one of the mana items and I don't have mana issues anymore.
: Game 1 Pre-Game M3GA7RON: lol M3GA7RON: reported M3GA7RON: absolute noob attitude M3GA7RON: will do M3GA7RON: stfu M3GA7RON: nobodys helping you M3GA7RON: a better attitude maybe M3GA7RON: a set of balls M3GA7RON: go for it In-Game M3GA7RON: why would you throw a game when youre in a duo? M3GA7RON: you need to find a new friend ez M3GA7RON: this malz is quality M3GA7RON: lets ff M3GA7RON: game was doomed from the start with this jgler M3GA7RON: bahahahahaha M3GA7RON: so bad M3GA7RON: you stole farm M3GA7RON: not exactly ganks M3GA7RON: well done it was an empty lane then when he came back you got fu cked M3GA7RON: lol M3GA7RON: gj malz M3GA7RON: literally a human trash bag M3GA7RON: you stole farm and are still weak M3GA7RON: lmao M3GA7RON: hes just perma farm inting M3GA7RON: but hes your mate M3GA7RON: remember to report malz M3GA7RON: stfu malz M3GA7RON: dont critique anyones play M3GA7RON: ahahaha M3GA7RON: "I CANT PLAY JUNGLE" M3GA7RON: "IM GOING TO FARM MID" M3GA7RON: never seen a bigger cry baby pu ssy M3GA7RON: I I I CANT P PLAY J JUNGLE M3GA7RON: SOMEONE SWAP WTF M3GA7RON: PLEASE M3GA7RON: ILL DO ANYTHING M3GA7RON: CRY CRY CRY M3GA7RON: 2/8 would suggest otherwise M3GA7RON: # M3GA7RON: a man who takes another players champ and steals mid farm M3GA7RON: ive seen you ulti like twice M3GA7RON: yeah because you perma farm M3GA7RON: lmapo M3GA7RON: hahahahaha M3GA7RON: cry cry cry M3GA7RON: cry cry cry Post-Game M3GA7RON: report malz for stealing champ, inting and perma farming Game 2 In-Game M3GA7RON: lol gj rengar M3GA7RON: he had 20% health how cant you kill him solo M3GA7RON: your early invade and that gank would suggest youre the weak link mate M3GA7RON: shush M3GA7RON: 0/0/0 M3GA7RON: funny the 0/0/0 and 2/3 jungle flame the 3/1 M3GA7RON: hahahahaha M3GA7RON: good joke M3GA7RON: ah youre duo that makes sense M3GA7RON: lmao M3GA7RON: fancy getting a drake rengar? M3GA7RON: funny when the worst people on the team flame the carry M3GA7RON: but report away M3GA7RON: dont ask me to help you though so dont flame when i dont come M3GA7RON: ganked your lane twice which is where you participation ends M3GA7RON: your feeding friend should be questioned more than me M3GA7RON: stop feeding please rengar M3GA7RON: all 8 times were my fault M3GA7RON: ? M3GA7RON: good positioning mate M3GA7RON: need baron M3GA7RON: oh no M3GA7RON: devastated M3GA7RON: report zoe afk M3GA7RON: going for 20 deaths rengar? M3GA7RON: all here M3GA7RON: youre welcome Post-Game M3GA7RON: gj jinx Game 3 In-Game M3GA7RON: level 1 does that much damage lol M3GA7RON: sublte M3GA7RON: wtf is that pathing wu M3GA7RON: wu what elo you in? M3GA7RON: this bot lane M3GA7RON: look at the mini map ffs M3GA7RON: brain dead M3GA7RON: hahaha M3GA7RON: my god wukong giving advice M3GA7RON: wukong your ganks consisted of you running straight through lane M3GA7RON: youre 0/2 and have terrible farm so what have you been doing? M3GA7RON: not ganking and not farming? M3GA7RON: lol M3GA7RON: when the "feeder" has the only kills M3GA7RON: what has your role been in the game then cait? M3GA7RON: no towers no kills M3GA7RON: a very switzerland game M3GA7RON: lol M3GA7RON: so what is your role in this game then? M3GA7RON: do you know what the C in ADC stands for? M3GA7RON: its carry M3GA7RON: as in youre supposed to carry the game M3GA7RON: not have a support score M3GA7RON: 6/6 M3GA7RON: you know they look at the game right M3GA7RON: not just take your word for it M3GA7RON: that explains why youre all as bad as each other M3GA7RON: between you and your friends you are 1/11 M3GA7RON: bit more of a feed than me M3GA7RON: gg Post-Game M3GA7RON: lol then 1/11 premade trio reporting the mid with all the kills for feeding lmao M3GA7RON: 11 deaths for the 11 year olds M3GA7RON: poetic M3GA7RON: exactly M3GA7RON: keep calm lads M3GA7RON: lol
Yikes dude. It's just a game. You lost your account and your cool over someone picking the guy you wanted. Was it worth?
: lvl 30 accounts
You level an account like everyone else. No one gets a free pass. Buy some experience boosts.
: Am i the only one who's gonna miss Akali..?
Gonna miss having my tower protect me when an Akali tower dives
: How Will League Do with All the New MOBAs?
I haven't heard of any of these. To me, the only Mobas I know is League, DOTA 2, and HotS. Everything else is news to me. Wasn't there a heroes of newport or something at one point?
: The new game that Riot is working on......what do you think it is?
I really hope it isn’t a RTS game like Starcraft. I can see one being made where players choose a faction and each faction has unique characteristics, but RTS games are super boring. I’d like to see a sandbox MMO set in Runterra. Like an EVE online/guild wars type game where a player chooses a race/faction and a class, maybe can build homes, guild halls, towns, etc. I think a Diablo-like game would be cool, set in Mt. Targon or Shurima/Icathia. I need a new MMO to play honestly, and WoW has dried up (how do you top beating Sargeras and the Burning Legion?).
Zynck (NA)
: Why is there not an RPG already??????
Tryndamere has mentioned they have been developing another game for the past 3 years. Maybe it’s that MMO he teased us about? Hope it’s a sandbox MMO, like EVE online, but set in Valoran.
Zatsukino (EUW)
: Morgana and Kayle {{sticker:sg-lux}}
: How powerfull is a weaponised cyborg compared to an average mage?
Magic and sufficiently advanced technology is basically the same
: Just making sure I have your attention before I start, is all {{champion:157}} His dash only goes through enemies. His ult? Locks onto enemies. **HE ONLY HAS OFFENSIVE MOBILITY.** Yasuo dashing *into fights* isn't some scapegoat from his inherent weaknesses. It's an offensive tool. The only way he's escaping a fight with dashes is if he dove into a position where enemies are behind him and he can E out, assuming he didn't E that guy to get in. Yasuo has a passive shield and a wind wall for defensive tools. What's Yasuo's weakness as a skirmisher? He's super squishy while melee and he needs to scale. We can say "But look at all tha-" well skirmishers tend to have strong defensive tools in their kits because they aren't going to *build* defensive stats. Yi? Dodges shit constantly with Q and reduces damage by a ton with W. Fiora? Ult makes a heal zone when completed and she can eat any attack and counter with proper timing. Jax? Has a defensive steroid built into his ult and can block all auto-attacks while moving, ramping up his incoming counter-attack the more he does. Tryndamere? Doesn't die at the push of a button even when cc'd. You get the point, right? Yasuo's shield and wind wall look strong in a vacuum, but this isn't some shit we haven't been dealing with in some way in comparison to other skirmishers. They all have strong defensive tools. Also, wtf are you calling Yasuo's Q a "3 hit combo" for? What type of combo is THAT? The shit goes on cd with every cast. HELLO? Lastly, you wanna know how Yasuo wins the most? By going bot lane. Why? It's not because "there are mages bot side now" because, well, there are mages mid side all the time and he usually hovers a 48% win rat in mid lane. It's because he gets a support to help set up his ults and bail him out of danger. Why is that important? Because he's super susceptible in the early phases of the game. {{champion:142}} I'm going to assume you don't even know what Zoe's weaknesses even are, to begin with, so this is me telling you: **Zoe's weakness is that she has no escapes and she can't punch through tanks unless she's insanely fed. Aggressive divers, vanguards, and catchers will ruin Zoe's day.** Now you say "Zoe can put people to sleep to land her skill shot."...but wait, most mages in this game have hit-confirm spells, and Zoe's gives you time to reposition or cleanse it before it even sleeps you. How is having something even champs *from the fucking beta of this game* have "circumventing her weaknesses"? "Oh shit, now it's a trap on the floor". If you aren't playing while blind or playing while regressing in age, this isn't a problem in the first place. It helps her escape in tight corridors, but then again she's designed to do well when there's a ton of walls and corridors around, so this is her playing into her design's strengths. Also, plenty of champs leave traps on the floor. Karma, Lux, and Gragas are just a few examples. Now Zoe's is bad because it's attached to hard cc? Oh shit, if only Jinx didn't exist so this could be a problem. But Zoe's gives bonus damage? Oh shit, if only Caitlyn didn't exist so this could be a problem. "Enemies are behind a wall so no-" every fucking spell goes through walls, my guy. Without walls, this move of hers doesn't even have that much range. Like I said, this is her playing into her *strengths* as a champion that does well fighting from the jungle/river areas where she can flank. "Her passive gives her damage on AAs." Literally wtf does that do to circumvent a weakness? Like, so Orianna is guilty of the same thing? Extra AA damage? This is a bad thing? SONA is negating her weakness to hard engage with extra damage on AAs now? Did you think any of this shit through? "She picks up summoner spells". They drop where they're used. She has to out-play your positioning, kill you outright, or be on the offensive to even use your summoners against you. If she's on defense, which means she's running away, and you flash, how's she gonna get *behind you* to grab your flash to bypass her weakness of being hard-engaged on? The problem resolves itself by nature of how the game fucking works if you think on it for 2 seconds. If you're fleeing, your summoner spells become her strengths, and she can take your flash to chase you with. If you're on offense and SHE'S fleeing, she can't fucking get behind you to get to your flash from where you dropped it to flee with, but you can flash on her to finish her. Yeah, if she uses a summoner of her own she gains MS, but you want to know what's more potent than a MS buff? *A the shit we see in hard engages...because she's weak to hard engages.* {{champion:429}} actually is a balancing nightmare and I never have and never will defend a champion that dashes on every auto, but her weakness is that she doesn't scale well. Nothing a champ can do can get past their scaling so this point's dead in the water. So yeah, you're wrong on every point you mentioned because they don't circumvent weaknesses.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FgAqPvXj,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2018-07-26T17:36:27.558+0000) > > You're wrong on every single point you made.
: You're wrong on every single point you made.
Your counter points are well thought out, your argument valid, and I sense no bias in each and every disagreement, and you seem to provide proof of your declarations that trump my own. Well done sir. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
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Ceol (OCE)
: CertaintlyT Champion frustration stems from their kits breaking fundamental game principles.
My only complaint with CertainlyT champions is that even though he gives his champions “windows of power”... he gives them loop holes to “get around” their down sides. His champions are quintessential Mary Sues. Let’s take a look at Yasuo, right? He’s a skirmisher that has reduced crit damage, but all crit stats he gets are doubled- and after his ult, all crit damage is amplified. He’s squishy and has a shield that gets popped- but he has a built in dash on a low CD and a projectile destroying wall he can drop anywhere on a low CD. He is a melee champion... but he also has a three hit combo that throws a projectile that can be aimed and also has a knock up, and can chunk people down. He is resource-less. His passive shield is not controlled by a cool down, but by his movement. Yasuo has windows of power... but CT also gave him ways to get around his down times. Sure, he has a high skill cap. But should high skill caps be a valid excuse to have a champion that can pretty much deus ex machina his own weaknesses? Even with Zoe, who’s damage is entirely reliant on a skill shot, also has ways to get around the down sides. Can’t hit a skill shot? Here is a spell that sleeps people. Miss your sleep spell? Well it’ll linger on the ground to become a trap. Enemy hiding behind a wall? Well now her sleep spell has longer range when shot through a wall. Did you have to burn a summoner spell to land your combo? Well we gave her the ability to use all summoner spells by picking them up. Also, after she uses a spell, he auto attacks are amplified. We made her squishy, so here is a blink that can confuse your opponents and make her skill shot hit harder. His champions are Mary Sues. They have weaknesses, sure, but they also have ways to get around them. Compare his champions to others, and you’ll see that while other champions have exploitable moments for people to capitalize on, CertainlyT champions have ways to mitigate or negate their own downsides. It’s not fucking fair. Thresh and Kalista were oppressive when released, but now Thresh has been nerfed into line, and Kalista nerfed into oblivion. His champion reworks are mostly alright, but usually they have to be nerfed before they are considered balanced. The dude has a penchant for making things OP or unfair. CertainlyT is the guy who says “if I could have one super power, it’d be the power to have all super powers”.
GreenLore (EUW)
: I think his new bio simply stopped before the part where he enters the void
So how did he get his powers like rift walk and null sphere?
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Diana hole (EUNE)
: This game is hard for new players to get into with a ton of smurfs. Unfortunately, that's how the game is. It won't change unless Riot Games creates a new system that seperates smurfs and new players
Thanks anyway for assuming I “shat the bed” or “my feelings got hurt” when this topic was intentionally made vague as to not mention this shit eating attitude was directed at a new player. I guess being the way you are, unfortunately, makes you assume every topic is about the OP and ignore the general message that being an a-hole in game won’t get you far. But hey, thanks for reading my shit thread. I don’t want to be you, so you got my pity.
Diana hole (EUNE)
: Ofcourse I do. Most people make these threads because their feelings got hurt and all that's going to do is amuse toxic players.
Well these weren’t my feelings. I was doing that new training mission with a friend who is actually new at this game, and she had a duo of angry self loathing neck beards on her case about playing poorly, even though it was her like 10th game in a new role. It’s a little counterintuitive to try and get new players interested in league if all you’re going to do is be as much of a disappointing toxic person in game as I’m sure they are IRL. I’m not surprised this amuses you.
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: Well we do have a character who is a detective that was meant to fill a "sniper fantasy" but arguably fails to do that in game. Hint: {{champion:51}} Since her creation we have a character that actually fulfills the sniper fantasy pretty well. Hint: {{champion:202}} If cait every gets a VGU I would be all for her losing the rifle in exchange for some hextech pistols, maybe going under cover to find out who wants to murder her parents (maybe make them successful) Hint:{{champion:164}} fulfilling the too familiar "cop gone rogue" cliche but in League
I did think about both of those champions when I wrote this, but I feel like while they are unequivocally related and in the same fantasy genre (steampunk/cyberpunk/noir), they don't quite hit the same vibe. Caitlyn has a real Sherlock Holmes thing going for her. She's eloquent, professional, and a member of the established order of Piltover. She's sniper Sherlock Holmes, where every fine detail about her target tells her the precise place to shoot for a critical hit or lay a trap in the right path. Camille is an agent of Piltover. She's rich, smart, and haughty. She is the thing keeping the upper class of Piltover in power. If I had to compare her to a character from a Noir/Hardboiled story, she's a replicant of Blade Runner keeping her masters in power. She is the blade of the upper class, and cannot associate with anything else except to fulfill her intended duty. One of the key elements of a hardboiled novel is that the main character in question is your Joe Everyman. He's an outsider, a loner, and someone with a sense of honor and the know-how to take a beating and give one. He's the guy who associates the violence he encounters in his work with some personal, instinctual aspect of himself and humanity in general. They get into the grit of society that people like Caitlyn and Camille stand above. They see the drunks, homeless, and prostitutes and look at them in a lense people in power choose to ignore. A great example of this is in the latest Blade Runner 2049 film. When K finds the orphanage/sweat shop for the human children, it very much parallels the overall larger themes of the story. Here in this microcosm, we see human children being treated and used in the same way as replicants in larger society. Through K's investigation, we see these smaller cogs in a greater machine that would have otherwise been missed by his human superiors in the police department. That's what separates great hardboiled fiction from your standard detective story about a privileged "Super Sleuth" that works hand in hand with the natural order of things, rather than lift the hood to see what kind of engine is really running.
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