Dynikus (NA)
: A rioter (I don't remember which one) tweeted that a majority of their focus for this preseason is going to be about improving the quality of matchmaking.
They've said that for like 3 years and they've made it worse for the last like 3 years. They screwed it up with dynamic queue and autofill then completely dumpstered it at the start of the season with that positional queue they never bothered fixing after removing it.
Mortismo (EUW)
: hmmm how is jungle the most liked role for smurfs then?
Cause they don't have to really rely on anyone and they are SMURFS so they are so far ahead of low elo people. They can just pick some kill jungler and chain gank or counter gank.
: > [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pWM0fW9T,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-09-18T20:16:05.070+0000) > > Spamming the wrong sub-board with your content is most definitely doing something wrong on the boards. > > Steams & Videos is specifically for sharing League related streams and videos. > General Discussion is for everything, League related or not, but you should keep your posts in their respective sub-boards regardless to keep GD from getting overcrowded. > > Nubrac deliberately not posting his videos in the correct sub-board is most definitely doing something wrong, and definitely something the mods should get on. I thought it wasn't a removable violation to post in the wrong board. I've done it many times and never even been warned about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Taldionimt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pWM0fW9T,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T20:18:15.302+0000) > > I thought it wasn't a removable violation to post in the wrong board. I've done it many times and never even been warned about it. I've had 2 threads removed with mod messages before. So yeah it's a thing.
: The game has always snowballed extremely hard, ans seasons 8 and 9 have had the most extreme snowballing.
No it hasn't. They even had full on comeback and rubberband mechanics in previous seasons. This year they just gave up and went full snowball.
Saezio (EUNE)
: It's not the players. It's the meta. Snowballing is gonna create blowouts. If this was steady tank meta scale to 3-4 items then teamfight, you can understand why games felt more winnable. Because they were decided much later.
It's both. When I have a 0/10/1 mid laner vs a 13/2 mid laner it's not JUST the meta. It helps cause you get 1-2 kills and your lane is 100% over, but people don't know how to play these days it feels like.
: "PvE game modes cost too many resources"
Given that one of the X employees was commenting on popular vs unpopular skins and all but bragging about their "6 figure salary", it goes into the pocket of people farting on other employees and I guess that's about it. It sure isn't going back into the game.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: Which begs the question: do the players who play these unpopular champs they love even matter? Yay money and shit. But this pisses me off so much.
We don't, because even if one person buys every skin for the unpopular champion Right doesn't give a shit cause the 1000 others who buy Ahri skins are what Riot cares about. I get that from a business standpoint but it is a big middle finger regardless.
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PAEEsOvZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-15T01:15:46.294+0000) > > https://twitter.com/thejanellemj/status/1158423105481535489?s=20 > > For those who can't access twitter: > > Now, of course she can't say what skin it was nor what champion just that it was a great skin for an unpopular champion. Now, let's make the assumption that this was a 1350 skin (About ~12 dollars or so) and let's also make the leap that Stellari at the time made 99,999 USD annually because reasons. > > With this, you can narrow down that out of a _global_ audience, just short of nine thousand people bought this skin. Nine, thousand. Regardless of what you think League's playerbase is now, that's abyssal. Like bottom-of-the-ocean-tier-skin-sales. Of course I'm sure there are arguments people could make/question such as if that champion was strong, if they were old/new, if the skin really _was_ well made, etc. No matter what, this is just kind of a morbid reminder about how utterly massive the gap is between a popular and unpopular champion. Yeah but she mean RIOT thinks it's a great skin, or players thought it was a great skin? Cuz there's a massive difference. Like what RIOT seems to think is great and what we want seems to generally be the opposite of such.
I mean it is clear the disconnect between what Riot thinks is x and what everyone else thinks is X This goes for proper balance, "good" anything, transparency, communication, fair pricing models, a working client, whether we should have gamemodes, and so on. Riot thinks some things are amazing because they did it, and that isn't a riot only problem, a lot of companies do that, but in this case it is likely Riot is thinking they did it, spent time and it's AMAZING, while people go "eh".
: Mecha Sol is a good skin, I don't know why people need to shit on it like r%%%%% because "HURR TOO MANY MECHA SKIN RITO". It is good, yes it is not some fanart skin with new theme but it is a good skin. Also don't spread BS about A-sol, he is one of the favourite VISUAL champ in NA, yet he is also among the lowest. And Sol isn't hard to pick-up, he is different for sure but play some game with him and he become very easy to play/understand, he is no lee-sin or Riven kind of technity. He is just different/weird, kinda like singed.
Not everyone agrees with you, like myself. Just because you love it doesn't make it good. You are welcome to your opinion, but so are the people who don't like it. Again, you are confusing YOUR opinion with facts about his visual. For the third time you are confusing YOUR opinion with a fact...lol You need to learn the difference
: Also, there might be an inverse relationship. The more skins and attention you give a champion the more popular they become.
It's like "no one plays dominion so it isn't popular so we stopped balancing and upkeeping it" while the inverse is "we stopped balancing and upkeeping dominion therefore people stopped playing it and it isn't popular anymore"
Jamaree (NA)
: Because numbers don't lie, numbers aren't bias, numbers don't ignore all the angles.
Numbers don't lie, but the context of the numbers are pretty easily manipulated, misread, misunderstood, made false assumptions of, and the list can go on. Just look at all the "x champ has x winrate and is broken/crappy!" posts where people ignore all the context of the winrate as one example. Numbers mean nothing if you don't have the full context to go with it, and if you just have numbers and don't actively PLAY, then you factually can't have the context.
mack9112 (NA)
: It is being removed end of season this is old news.
They said changes are coming, it was never said that it was being removed. This is an assumption by people twisting Riot's wording.
: Still not as op as Kaisa or Akali
The difference is one is a champion that you can ban. The other is an item that you can't and works amazingly well on more than two champions.
HeresyHorus (EUNE)
: {{item:3161}} is fine. {{item:3508}} is not... way more r%%%%%ed design but somehow underrated. Try building it on {{champion:92}} {{champion:23}} instead of spear.
What? lol I don't even know how to respond to this given how ridiculous a claim it is. It's like saying {{champion:32}} is a better Marksman than {{champion:222}}.
: {{champion:31}} stat checks {{champion:24}} at every point in the game with grasp/ tanky build.
Diävolo (EUW)
: So remove zhonya too, and Botrk plz. Duskblade too please ffs. guinsoo. Cancer items
Literally not the same instance in the slightest.
: Can you remove Spear already Riot?
As someone who plays Renekton almost exclusively on my alt because of the item.....yup. It doesn't matter if you bully and win the lane or get countered and lose early, the MOMENT you have level 6 + {{item:3161}} you just win the matchup.
Yääto (NA)
: Im sorry, but if you're plat you are better than average... As a matter of fact you're a top 10% player. That's pretty freaking good being better than millions of players and being in the top tens of thousands.
> [{quoted}](name=Yääto,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pq5BEZNA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-16T20:58:58.150+0000) > > Im sorry, but if you're plat you are better than average... > > As a matter of fact you're a top 10% player. That's pretty freaking good being better than millions of players and being in the top tens of thousands. Teeeeeeeechnically Gold like.....2 or 3? is better than average Silver 2 is "average". Plat is a lot better than average
: I have removed the picture as it did show the username of a player, which follows the Naming and Shaming rule: > No personal attacks or witch-hunting, for any reason. Do not make posts accusing another player of causing a negative in-game experience, cheating, trolling, or any other malicious activity, even if you have hard evidence. Posts calling out other players for inappropriate names are likewise forbidden. If you have any question about this action please do not hesitate to visit us at * [The Boards Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) * [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) Thanks.
Yeah how dare we point out people that purposely ruin games so people can hopefully avoid them or dodge when seeing them.
: Why would they? Afaik, tencent already owns a mobile moba.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WpcLijvp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-15T22:14:03.370+0000) > > Why would they? Afaik, tencent already owns a mobile moba. They already announced it.
Rioter Comments
Bârd (NA)
: Depends. Warwick, Irelia, and Heim were just updated versions of what they were. Aatrox, Galio, and Akali were new champions that were the result of Riot giving up.
Karma was that long before they even thought of doing any of those updates. Then there was Sona who wasnt too different. People forget that this Kayle rework wasnt actually her first, just most people werent around for it. There have been some big ones from back in the day.
: As long as Mobile players can never que with PC players I see no problem with it tbh, sure mobile games are shit but it'll attract more players to the game, and hey, nobody is going to force me to play it ^-^
> [{quoted}](name=JustDonnyy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2T97VR4E,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-29T16:51:19.709+0000) > > As long as Mobile players can never que with PC players I see no problem with it tbh, sure mobile games are shit but it'll attract more players to the game, and hey, nobody is going to force me to play it ^-^ Its 2019, no it wont. If anything it will just pull people from the already dwindling ranked queues. LoL is a meme to people that dont play it these days as I hear it constantly. People like the music or the visuals but hate the game, etc.
: Why again does an AFK offer NO ingame-compensations in LoL only?
1) Riot doesnt care 2) Theyd have to spend amy time implementing something and these days id it doesnt make them a dollar they are just too lazy to bother 3) They are surprisingly out of touch and dont see it as near the problem it really is and dont really care how frustrating it is for us cause it isnt frustrating for them.
musixxal (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Sesshomaru,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HW8ABzQI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-31T09:25:02.897+0000) > > I think it's not so much that people don't understand that the balance changes are for worlds _(I mean Riot quite literally states that it is)_, I think their problem is that Riot is making significant changes that affect millions of players, just for the sake of less than a hundred people, for a couple of weeks in the spotlight. > > Buffing Lee Sin might be nice for the 15 or so Junglers in worlds, but it negatively affects millions of players around the world as well. > > I think that is the crux of people's complaints. That Riot would rather please a handful of pros, than the majority of their loyal player-base. more people watch worlds than people play league surely, so your numbers aren't checking out if the benefit of the few vs the many is being weighed up. 200 million viewers for 2018 worlds allegedly. rito have yet to announce that they've exceeded their player count of 100mil so i'm going with there being more viewers than players.
More people in China alone play League than probably all the people that watch worlds. You are very wrong.
: Caters to PUB play year round. "zzzz rito never listen 2 us" Makes balance changes focused around pros for around 1-2 months. "WTF RIOT CATER TO LC$ YET AGAIN".
Except the part where they dont cater to anyone but pro players 80% of the time the rest of the year these days. They even say as much so not sure what you are on about
Rioter Comments
: It has more to do with the lack of budget for equipment, if riot is signing these people up for live, they should equip them with the sound to fill the venue, otherwise it will be super dinky. That is why Zedd had such a good performance, because he had his own audio equipment, also the venue was Madison Square Garden, but still... if riot wants to arrange huge events like worlds, they gotta have some pride and make sure these artists are gonna be at 100%.
> [{quoted}](name=BennieBoi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hmkobNZ4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-26T05:08:52.204+0000) > > It has more to do with the lack of budget for equipment, if riot is signing these people up for live, they should equip them with the sound to fill the venue, otherwise it will be super dinky. That is why Zedd had such a good performance, because he had his own audio equipment, also the venue was Madison Square Garden, but still... if riot wants to arrange huge events like worlds, they gotta have some pride and make sure these artists are gonna be at 100%. I mean this band at NA finals had their own equipment and it looked like they picked it up at a pawn shop before showing up. Cracked cymbols for the drummer, clothed that looked like they just rolled out of bed to show up like they forgot about the gig, a guitar that looked like they got it at walmart then left it sitting in a garage for a month. It didn't help that the performance was dog crap and not at ALL a hype song (it was a boring song that bored the crowd).
: pyke. an assasin with stealth. mobility, fast heal IN COMBAT a hook, an execute, slow. stun
You forgot about his stealth as well. Because what a healing hook assassin needs is stealth.
: To Riot and the Community
A lot of Rioters aren't busy though is the funny part about it. Just look at their social media and they are playing TFT or messing around on aram or whatever it is. They GET busy, but they are not too busy to talk to use, they just don't care anymore. In 2019 Riot is not about transparency and communication anymore and that's just kinda how it is. The old Riot that talked and joked around and trolled the boards is long gone. Today is where we have the rioters who complain about their players and complain about people being mean to them on social media and so on. Just not the same group of Rioters anymore.
: > [{quoted}](name=Shuriman God,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OdEOR6HX,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T07:04:24.916+0000) > > You know what golds want for the most part? For balance to be focused around high plat. Average enough for your average Joe, good enough to have an impact on proplay. As someone who played from iron to high dia. I have to say fuck no, you can't even compare plat with high dia, let alone master+ and proplay. I don't understand how anyone can follow the "We should balance for lower-mid elos" argument, can't understand logic behind it, when something is OP in low elo(iron-dia) it's just because they're playing bad, they can play better and not have that problem. When something is OP in masters+/preferably chalanger, it's actually OP and needs to be toned down. Can't understand logic behind thinking otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OdEOR6HX,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T07:11:29.665+0000) > > As someone who played from iron to high dia. I have to say fuck no, you can't even compare plat with high dia, let alone master+ and proplay. > > I don't understand how anyone can follow the "We should balance for lower-mid elos" argument, can't understand logic behind it, when something is OP in low elo(iron-dia) it's just because they're playing bad, they can play better and not have that problem. When something is OP in masters+/preferably chalanger, it's actually OP and needs to be toned down. Can't understand logic behind thinking otherwise. The VAST of players are below plat, so who cares? That's where the average player is and most of the players, and the ones who spend the most money. Esports didn't even make Riot any more till like 2 years ago so the fact people think that needs to be the standard for balance hurts my brain. Let's alienate the vast majority of players for something that has lost Riot money for most of the time it has been a thing cause it was an ADVERTISEMENT for the game....you know the one everyone else plays, not just the pro players. There are more players in silver and below just in NA than there are pro players in every region combined. It is flat out moronic that pro play balance impacts regular play to the point some champs are useless or unplayable cause of a few hundred players when most people that play this game don't care about pro play and don't watch it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OdEOR6HX,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-22T06:52:47.087+0000) > > I've been saying forever that games need to be balanced around average players, not the best players. > When you balance around the best, you alienate everyone else, and eventually they leave. If the game is balanced around lower levels based solely on the fact that they don't know/coordinate enough to fully use some champs/strats at their fullest ability, then the balance is doomed to decrease and decrease as players improve. So instead of starting with some basic, sometimes underwhelming champ, and slowly improving and finally "unlocking" their full potential, golds want all champs to be balanced for the level of play THEY are at, where no one knows how to play the game. Listening to low elo scrubs is way to the hell, period. Not to talk about how "They balance around proplay" is bullshit, just look at Dota, that's what balancing around proplay is. In LoL, picks/counterpicks doesn't even matter up to highest elos, so that's another thing why silver screaming "I can't play my Galio" is delusional r****d.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OdEOR6HX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-22T07:01:04.261+0000) > > If the game is balanced around lower levels based solely on the fact that they don't know/coordinate enough to fully use some champs/strats at their fullest ability, then the balance is doomed to decrease and decrease as players improve. So instead of starting with some basic, sometimes underwhelming champ, and slowly improving and finally "unlocking" their full potential, golds want all champs to be balanced for the level of play THEY are at, where no one knows how to play the game. Listening to low elo scrubs is way to the hell, period. > > Not to talk about how "They balance around proplay" is bullshit, just look at Dota, that's what balancing around proplay is. In LoL, picks/counterpicks doesn't even matter up to highest elos, so that's another thing why silver screaming "I can't play my Galio" is delusional r****d. If you only balance around the minuscule number of pro players, eventually people are gonna get bored and leave. and despite what Riot likes to say, the numbers ARE dwindling. The only regions it is actively increasing to a meaningful degree is China and it has gone down almost every year for the past 4 years in NA cause people are getting bored.
: > [{quoted}](name=AccurateYeet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rc3q2V7w,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-22T01:47:46.006+0000) > > I mean I'd have to argue against catering to the pros as a whole. They should be good enough to make it work and they're getting paid to be there as opposed to the average Joe who plays for fun. If something's overbuffed in pro play and about average viable in solo queue then so be it. > > I don't have problems with champions like Azir being unplayable in iron because they're difficult to execute on, but chopping Galio out of the game because the pros don't like it should be secondary to player experience. I prefer pro-tier balance because Pro-tier is how the game should be optimally played: Five incredibly skilled players vs. five incredibly skilled players working as an organized team with a structured gameplan. (Or if you're NA ramming your face into a wall until your nose breaks or the wall gives). I'd also like to see more variety in pro play with several champions being played in high degrees. That said, you're not wrong to have a different opinion than me. If anything, this just proves my point how neither of us get what we want because 50/50 balancing.
This is such a dumb argument in 2019. When you have millions of people playing you shouldn't say "Screw you casual guy, too bad you aren't a pro player" and only balance for pro play. That is honestly stupid and that argument is the dumbest thing.
: Galio is the Perfect Example of Modern League
Honestly I hate the idea of catering to the pros at all let alone picking a side and sticking with it. The pros are nothing more than an advertisement for the game. For the majority of the games life they have cost the game money, not made it any until maaaaaaaaybe 2 years ago. The fact that the game is to any extent catered to a few hundred at most player over literal millions is dumb enough as it is. This isn't like the NFL where it brings in billions of dollars and there are millions of fans. the majority of the viewers also play LoL, and they play casually. Like 1% of most Pro Sports viewers play the game they watch, and that's counting high school and college.
: i dont see how its any different between them playing "champion XX" for the 200th time with a 20-30% winrate or them picking something else and "trolling". while im not banning my teammates champ, if i did id rather ban their 20% winrate champ and risk them going to troll.
There is a difference in being bad at the game and on a champ but at least you know what it does and them purposely trying to int. a 30% chance to win is still better than a 0% chance to win. It isn't hard to figure that out.
: nope but it forces them to play something else than their 30% winrate champ. and that gamble is better imo
Yeah force them into playing something they've never played that they don't want to play, or something they might have an even worse winrate. That's is some brilliant logic right there. Plus now you've tilted them so that's another strike.
: A balanced champion gets buffed
The problem is Riot doesn't see any problem in how they balance, hence why they don't ever fix it. Or any other problems.
: Riot only fixed death recap because they planned to add a cash grab system to it.
They killed all the "memes" so they could create new ones.
Rioter Comments
HAXOR099 (EUW)
: The Boards community is extremely toxic
I mean that's just the internet.
: Spear of Shojin. Remove it. The cooldown of those users isn't even THAT severe.
Given that only a few people use it, and the ones that do ABUSE it, yeah, it is a pointless item aside from the few that abuse it.
: If you like Moba genre you shouls try Dota2. It has some learning curve and also some issues but it still less shitty than LoL. Smite is also very good alternative and I think it easier for lol player to get into. There are many good games which will get released this year so you have a plenty options to choose from. Me personally is waiting for CoD MW
I preferred Smite and HoTs myself. Dota was NOT enjoyable coming from League. I installed it, played a few games and instantly uninstalled it.
Hexa XV (EUW)
: Are people a joke to you or machine to make money?
Riot doesn't care anymore. It's e-sports and pumping out Ahri skins. It's like they are bitter since getting called out for farting on people and harassing woman and now they just gave up trying.
: After being hardstuck silver for 4 years.. I reached Gold!
: Because those bug get identified and fixed much faster when there is a ranked queue.
Those bugs have been there since the mode was introduced on the PBE. They've been highlighted very openly on just about every social media platform, on the boards, on Reddit, on Twitch. Riot just wanted it pushed out fast because reasons. There are MASSIVE bugs, like champions going afk for the entire game, not one round, or champions suddenly attacking their allied champions, the Elise bug that still pops up now and then where he spiderlings start attacking her and so on.
: People are forgetting that MMR was messed up at the start of the season with the provisional rank changes that got reverted. They gave people their highest MMR role without re-adjusting anything other than higher elo(why they felt that only high elo needed the adjustment is beyond me). Thats why you are seeing massive skill gaps within the same elos. Yes Silver players know nothing about Macro that point is true but why am i getting fresh 30s and players who have no idea about macro in my gold games? The answer is that the MMR system is jacked atm.
Yup, had a 27% winrate first time Twitch with 20 games total played in ranked in my Gold game a few games ago. The matchmaking is fucked.
5050BS (NA)
: Riot Created Iron rank but Im seeing worse players in Upper Silver then I did before Iron was added.
I just made a post a bit ago how I hit gold with a +50% winrate and a few games in I'm suddenly matched up against a bronze 2 with 27% winrate (I thought it was 32 at the time but it didn't update properly when the game started). 27% winrate bronze in a gold mmr game while they are bronze rank. The matchmaking makes no sense this season and Riot doesn't care unless it is masters or challenger. The other 98% of the game just aren't important to them anymore.
: >the only way to climb **(in low elo)** is to play a hyper carry This was different exactly when?
I mean I climbed from bronze to gold just spamming {{champion:25}} . She ain't a hyper carry.
: I'm having more fun than ever. But I mostly play normals with friends.
I think the "with friends" part is 99% why there, not the game. I've played some games I wouldn't in a million years play alone but with friends I could stand in a circle making fart noises for half an hour and have a laugh.
Kai Guy (NA)
: I will check into it later when I am home. Is the account you posted on the one you played vs that twitch?
I played Lux support into the Twitch adc and yes. I'm used to varying ranks cause "elo" but it wasn't someone with a super high winrate that didn't belong itnBronze, it was a barely clinging to 30% winrate in bronze that was steadily dropping in rank. And he played pretty bad so it wasn't just someone trolling to lower their elo as they only had about 20 games played in ranked.
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