: My OPINION on "unconventional" (melee) ADC's
SOooooo I can't play a Melee ADC bot lane because you don't want me to. L0l, but when I say "don't play X Support" it's illegal.
: Mastery 5 yasuo: {{champion:238}} "mid" {{champion:157}} "mid" {{champion:157}} *instalocks* {{champion:238}} "yasuo I got mid" {{champion:157}} "ok. I'll go adc." Mastery 7 yasuo: {{champion:103}} "mid" {{champion:157}} *instalocks and doesn't call* {{champion:103}} "uhh excuse me, but aren't I mid?" {{champion:157}} "Fuck up ahri. Go kys you bitch. Reported." {{champion:103}} "Wuh-" {{champion:157}} *locks in* {{summoner:1}} {{summoner:6}}
: Thanks for your **opinions**.
Even if those are opinions, you're just being stubborn for not proving its use out of specific situations.
: probably because its been an issue for the whole of season 7 and nothing has been done. You see the exact same post because it is common with everyone twitch is op.
More like it's a circlejerk, which is EXACTLY what this is. Same thing "nerf twitch" no real explanation as to why other than some claims with no proof and the common "special treatment cuz adc" statement.
: Maybe darius isnt underpowered? Maybe hes *balanced* and in a near *perfect* spot Pretty sure a red will come and say something like that.
Its commonly known that a 50% winrate is balanced. While that doesn't really mean the champion is balanced, being below that is probably underpowered.
: It's off-topic because the post was made about something specific, and you are trying to broaden the scope and make it about something else.
its on the same topic of how much IP you earn for games, wtf are u on
: Who cares what some random reply was talking about, especially since he didn't specify. Since I'm the OP and I wasn't talking about 5 wins in one day, it doesn't matter WHAT that guy meant. He can go make his own fucking post if he wants to talk about something that isn't what the OP is about. EDIT: Hell, maybe I'll just report him for off-topic since he apparently wanted to talk about something that wasn't what I posted about...
how is that off topic, he directly pointed out you cant farm 1000 IP in 5 games which your post implied you can. Even an Arbiter supported that. Also stop entitling yourself like being the OP is a grand title given to chosen ones. In most gameplay posts, it's basically a dunce hat.
: If a decent amount of the 5 games were first win of the day you could. Just looking at my match history from before the change, I've got the following set of games: 10/26/2017 - Win - 257 IP 10/28/2017 - Win - 230 IP <-- 16 minute match, less IP 10/30/2017 - Win - 261 IP 10/30/2017 - Win - 128 IP 11/01/2017 - Loss - 85 IP Over the first 5 games on that list I got 961 IP. If that last game had been a win I would have exceeded 1000 IP in 5 games.
This is talking about 5 wins in one day not an entire 5 day time period.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mal the Red,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KlYmu7sl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-08T02:14:35.919+0000) > > If you want to be real. Yasuo deserves the hate. Please, Camille and Gnar are a thousand times worse than Yasuo. He is unpleasant to lane against sure, but he is far from the worst champ.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KlYmu7sl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-08T02:17:00.854+0000) > > Please, Camille and Gnar are a thousand times worse than Yasuo. He is unpleasant to lane against sure, but he is far from the worst champ. https://gyazo.com/0b512a652764bec7921387f64785a8f0?token=b2fe91262d3ecadd9443c63d3e87fb63 don't bother with this guy, he's a brick wall
: I am not wrong.
pick your battles wisely, just a tip
: I am not wrong.
wouldn't you be wrong if you decide to respond to something that proves you wrong with a circlejerk's view on the Yasuo playerbase's toxicity
: Yasuo doesn't dash through his own minions, unless you mean some sort of meta "Haha, look at your minions help me kill you!" joke. Which is the kind of toxicity I expect from Yasuo players.
yeah I mean his minions by enemy minions obviously, and that has nothing to do with what I said. safe to say ur wrong
: Dash in through one minion, Q, dash out through another minion, Dash in through one minion, Q, dash out through another minion, Dash in through one minion, Q, dash out through another minion, Dash in through one minion, Q, dash out through another minion. Your "on target cool down" argument is a load of bullshit.
yeah that has the conditions of none of his minions being killed by the enemy (which is borderline afking in lane), and you use 2 minions to dash in and out since u cant re use a minion. so in total that's about 3 "dash in out" and 3 Q's without factoring if you miss a Q and if the minions stand in a crescent line without moving into the enemy tower. yeah ok
: If Stopwatch has a one-time use active, then Hexdrinker should be one-time as well.
LMAO of course the emote you use is an ezreal with that fucking look that screams "I think I'm a genius". this idea is dumb and that's that.
: Just watched a video, within 10 seconds he did it 4 times.
an on target cool down of 10 seconds at level one, he cant even do it twice in 10 seconds actually. best part is that the lowest it goes is 6 seconds so you can only do it twice if the enemy is dumb enough to stand still
: Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out, Dash in, Q, Dash Out. All with no real fucking cooldown. That's the problem with Yasuo.
you cant even do Q dash in dash out twice in 10 seconds
: The actual problem with Yasuo is that he is obnoxiously annoying from the way he dashes all around the lane trying to intimidate the other laner from level 2 onwards to having to hear HASAGI every time I'm about HASAGI last hit HASAGI followed by the cliche FACE THE WIND. I have no problem dealing with Yasuo but I play the game to have fun, and facing a Yasuo is not a fun ordeal even if he is bad and you walk all over him.
This. Yasuo isn't strong or OP but the guy is annoying on many levels. Most of the time I fight a mirror match, I make buying items top priority due to how fast Yasuo can scale on his own terms, which often just shows how "mid game" he is. Also this post is weird. If his tornado is stupidly easy to dodge then why remove dash knockup, because he'd have to go near you to hit it which means 1. Go under tower 2. Attack him since he can't W in the middle of a dash
Rexxiee (NA)
: How exactly are mages or champs like fizz supposed to lane against zed or yasuo now?
fizz isn't actually that bad against yasuo if you know what you are doing did not have a nice time laning against that prick
: Yasuo is a self loathing samurai. Kindred is a grim reaper in spirit and Kayne is a grim reaper in design. Also the wrist slicing and grim reaper comment was more of a nod towards edginess in general than actually something in lol.
1. Yasuo has regret for letting his master get killed he doesn't loathe himself, I would know 2. grim reaper design doesn't really mean grim reaper so its irrelevant to mention that 3. Zed has both a dark self and current self but that's not as common as you think it is at all
Sciela (NA)
: Have you read Ivern's lore? Bloodthirsty criminal, kills all kinds of people, and hears about this magical tree. Wanting the power for himself, he goes to cut it down, and is possessed by the spirit inside of the tree, becoming the hippy tree guy we have.
Wow and Ornn is fine because his current self isn't as edgy as his past was. Hypocrisy at it's finest. And Ivern is not acting like an edgelord, having a dark past doesn't mean you are an edge lord NOR does it mean having a dark past is bad.
Sciela (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2dnvJ4AV,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2017-11-04T03:26:59.351+0000) > > 1. You need &quot;dark and gloomy&quot; to have a mood and conflict to set the mood. And the second you said &quot;I hate&quot; that immediately dismisses anything you said as fact. You don't need anything. Have you ever read The Hobbit? Tolkien is sometimes called one of the best writers in the fantasy genre. Thing is, The Hobbit had ***both light and dark in it***, and it wasn't monotonous dark and edgy crap like LOTR was (I think he wrote The Hobbit so much better than he did LOTR). The key to good writing is to make your story feel alive. In the real world, as shitty as it is, there are still happy people, aren't there? There are still good moments and bright spots. Not everyone is always walking around being depressed and sad, not every criminal is a bloodthirsty monster... there's variations, because everyone is unique. Now, when your story is ALWAYS dark, it gets monotonous, and becomes boring to read -- or it could give the implication it's just one single event, which would make your story rather short-lived (and in League, none of the stories are just one single event). After a while of ***literally everyone*** copying that, it starts to become annoying. So, in League, we have a couple characters that have stories that aren't the same tone as all the others, and are fun to read. Then we have 130 or so dark, gloomy, violent, depressing stories that I really don't care for -- but that's what sells, so that's what we get. Go read The Hobbit, the Eragon series, anything by Piers Anthony, The Deathgate Cycle, Pendragon... lots of books that aren't always dark and gloomy, but have appropriate moods for what's going on. > 2. Cuphead literally just came out. > > OPM Season 2 is coming out > > DBS > > and plentiful more like dragon maid That's four. I could list off a hundred that are dark and gloomy. > and If you live in a shitty world and you KNOW it, then you know that anything happy dandy in the face of evil/conflict is masking bad feelings therefore its just annoying to see anything happy for no reason. In a shitty world, people manage to be happy. In a happy world, people manage to be sad. That's called being human.
1. Again your entire essay is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with anything. "You don't need anything" then what are you doing here "Hobbit had both light and dark in it" proves my point because you need conflict and darkness evenly balance out a good book. Also, not much of LoL is really "edge" or dark even though people like Lux have dark encounters and they still try to be optimistic to up the mood and KNOW WHEN TO STOP BEING "HAPPY" WHILE THERE IS A BAD EVENT. 2. Holy shit are you ungrateful. You think 130 champions are dark and gloomy entirely straight off the bat and that you don't care for them at all. "but that's what sells" and this is just even more ungrateful. 3. We both know you can't list off one hundred without being equalized and/or overcome. 4. I don't really know what you even meant to say.
: I mean, Yasuo gets free armor pen on his ult, so you build last whisper and he basically deals true damage.
Ironically, it doesn't work like that and last whisper is a shit item because its gated on Yasuo ultimate, and it's shit anyway.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Dear bot lane players:
Sure let's meet the people in bot that try to cheese ADCs and assume all ADC mains are fucking dicks. Seriously.
Sciela (NA)
: You can have serious lore / settings without being an edgelord 100% of the time. It's called good writing.
None of the last 20 champs other than maybe Kayn has this. Irrelevant and biased as all hell. You mean to tell me Ivern is an edgelord?
: Yeah but eventually all the wrist slicing and self loathing gets old really fast. Eventually someone just looks at the grim reaper and ask if he can do something else.
As far as I know, LoL has none of that other than self loathing which is actually regret.
Sciela (NA)
: What's wrong with being edgy? * Well, first off I hate people/games/shows who are dark and depressing like that (like, you can have a serious plot without making everything dark and gloomy). * Second, it is ***SO FUCKING OVERUSED*** it's not even funny. Go count how many happy, bright games / shows / animes you can find, and then count how many edgy, depressing ones. The edgy ones are 10x the number of the bright ones. We live in a shitty world that makes me sad just thinking about it. People kill themselves all the time to get away from it. We really don't need *more* depression and dark stories / characters.
1. You need "dark and gloomy" to have a mood and conflict to set the mood. And the second you said "I hate" that immediately dismisses anything you said as fact. 2. Cuphead literally just came out. OPM Season 2 is coming out DBS and plentiful more like dragon maid and If you live in a shitty world and you KNOW it, then you know that anything happy dandy in the face of evil/conflict is masking bad feelings therefore its just annoying to see anything happy for no reason.
Noctús (NA)
: It gets kinda dull after a while
Everything can get dull. LoL has a serious lore, and most lore is serious or whatever "edgy" is supposed to mean. It really doesn't help that anything that is dark and scary is automatically considered edgy. OP thinks being mentally insane reduces edginess, this is not a valid point.
Sciela (NA)
: You know, I absolutely love the new champ. xD
What the hell is wrong with being edgy. All I see being considered edgy is having a dark past and/or you have a dark purpose, neither of which are bad.
: South Korea at Worlds
something makes me think North Korea would be nuking everyone with damage
: As a support main: I have done all 3 honestly, it depends on 3 things. *My ADC. If he/she harasses, I will to *Their ADC/Support. If they harass, ^^^ *If no one harasses each other and we are just silently letting the ADC's CS and the support to catch up, then so be it until they are up to speed. Nothing wrong with being sportsmanlike and making the playing field fair, but once it is fair, it's game on and harassment is about to commence.
> [{quoted}](name=Cute Poro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cGEqETxf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-02T00:11:57.442+0000) > > As a support main: > I have done all 3 honestly, it depends on 3 things. > *My ADC. If he/she harasses, I will to > > *Their ADC/Support. If they harass, ^^^ > > *If no one harasses each other and we are just silently letting the ADC&#x27;s CS and the support to catch up, then so be it until they are up to speed. > > Nothing wrong with being sportsmanlike and making the playing field fair, but once it is fair, it&#x27;s game on and harassment is about to commence. Sorry, but leveling the playing field puts your laning at risk and just tilts your partner in lane. This is not a good idea even though it seems nice.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lKXdRLq4,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-10-31T03:04:08.457+0000) > > Right now, you aren&#x27;t proving anyone saying that. Can we stop playing semantics plz? It doesn't matter what the exact words were.
Yes it does. You are calling zed players delusional, you have no right to command ANYONE with that approach.
: Improving Yasuo's readability in-regards to Q stacks would go far in reducing player frustration
If the enemy isn't paying attention to Yasuo enough for him to get a Q right under their nose, that's not a clarity issue. That's called lack of awareness.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Stabby Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lKXdRLq4,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-31T02:36:10.510+0000) > > Talking about delusion while arguing with made up quotes. Meanwhile in reality the overwhelming majority zed players aren&#x27;t running around saying anything even close to this it&#x27;s only people who don&#x27;t like him. It's not made up dude. It might not be word for word but it's pretty close.
Right now, you aren't proving anyone saying that.
iLBGAMing (EUW)
: Ignoring the change to his wall for a second, do you think this change to his E and passive would be decent?
I think so, it will definitely make him less aggressive and oppressive. It will also prevent him from instantly chunking a target, instead making his primary strength be early-mid game (or anywhere with monsters or minions that amount over 5). I could see that this post isn't really done with bad intentions it's just not well informed enough to work out, which is pretty much 90% of all Yasuo nerf/buff/gut/rework posts. So don't take it as bad, because it's not like a lot of people have actually figured Yasuo out and how to nerf him correctly. And to just go off on a tangent, I do really feel bad for anyone who has a main that has crucial abilities that can be blocked by Yasuo (Lux mains, soon-to-be Ornn mains, any ADC main) but as it is, I can't see any ways to fix that with numbers without going to far/little. It is very sad and annoying and I can see why you and many other people spoke out about it. Sometimes, you just have to accept that Yasuo is just one of those champions. Like Riven (or darius conditionally) you can't really fix it on a basic approach. Honestly, I'd just wait for the Yasuo mini-rework that is coming up sometime soon. I'm sure it'd work some things out, even if it's not good for Yasuo or anyone against him.
: yasuo needs ult nerf.
if we went off how the doom bot versions of champions did, then every champ would be nerfed
iLBGAMing (EUW)
: I had a interesting idea on how to change Yasuo in a less nerf way. Passive: Removed - Intent: Yasuo gains double Critical Strike chance from all sources. E: Sweeping Blade NEW Passive: Yasuo gains 10% Critical Strike chance per cast of this ability for 5 seconds. Max gain: 50% Thoughts?
don't mean to spoil the party again but while that E passive would be really good, that makes yasuo infinitely easier to gank thus its actually a nerf in disguise
iLBGAMing (EUW)
: My only problems with this champion: * Point to click CC (E + Q) * How he interacts with Critical Strike (someone else mentioned that he needs to interact with it different instead of having plainly doubled) * How he can use his ult when an ally knocks someone up
Actually, there was a suggestion of Yasuo having his critical chance increased by level (something like .5x crit chance at level 3, so on) and the reason that was suggested is so Yasuo has to scale per level and not on his own terms. The reason Yasuo is allowed to use his ult on an ally knockup is due to how conditional his own knockups are. For example, his Q is very slow and telegraphed. Yes he can use E Q but this brings up two problems, if the enemy is under tower or if the enemy is grouped (or if the enemy is just stronger than you). if the enemy is under tower then you cant E Q, because you take damage from a tower as long as the enemy isn't on the edge of the tower range. If the enemy is grouped or stronger than you, they can just retreat. If the enemy is not any of these things, then go ahead. Even if you shoot Q, it's really easy to miss (literally the only times you will hit it is when you are lucky or you predict their location which isn't too easy). If you E Q, they know what you are doing and run away as soon as possible. Add on that E does little to no damage and Q is about 120 damage on the enemy at THE MOST pre-6, it's not a guarantee kill. And please, don't ever use E Q as point and click in an argument. E does no damage at all and Q does not last long enough to actually use it correctly (not use it as soon as possible and use it in a better way). AKA, this nerf is unjustified as the other guy said since he isn't even strong at all. He completely destroyed the logic behind any nerf of Yasuo. What you could have done in those 3 problems you have with Yasuo is - Stay away from Yasuo if he can E Q and you are low - He needs double crit or some sort of multiplier otherwise his damage is too low to kill anything early game - avoid the knockup in the first place
: > double the effect of lulu ult on melee champions, make janna shield scale with max health, cause the on hit effect of nami's spells to be aoe with melee attacks, etc. > > what the fuck. > > Alright so instantly the first suggestions are a giant buff to chogath which means a lulu chogath top meta can be possible, same for cho+janna, possibly the same for cho+NAMI since Chogath can literally have all attacks of his be AOE except R The suggestions were random things thrown out without deep conideration of how they would work, and mearly just an illistration of how various enchanters could be changed to be more benificial to non-adc allies. Personally I would rather go with Lulu's ult granting a larger slowing field on melee allies(or just have the effect on ranged champs halved, which would help push it from "ally is about to die" avoidance button and more into a follow up engage ult, to ult that Amumu who just locked down their entire team) Nami's e being able to be expended via enemy champion spell hits And Janna's sheild's ad being changed to adaptive force(ad/ap with the ~2:1 ap:ad ratio that items have) or being removed and replaced with something else that helps her peel(slow or small knockback upon being destroyed) > Or an item that is cast on an ally and increase the range of their next ability by 25%, or an item that drops a totem pole that functions like a mini fountain. > > doesn't seem to promote assistance to any position other than ADC specifically either Right. Because there are no mana hungry mages. {{champion:34}} {{champion:101}} You know. {{champion:37}} {{champion:127}} At all.{{champion:10}} {{champion:268}} Absolutely none. And no mage/tank/diver could use extra range on their cc/engage/escape. That would be useless on the likes of {{champion:101}} {{champion:99}} when they go to ult someone far away, or when {{champion:53}} {{champion:113}} want to make a pick. And there are no supports who typically roam from one lane to another, repeatedly, who could make use of these things.
The mini fountain also can be used BOT so yes, it's specific purpose is to assist mana hungry mages but at the same time it does the same for an ADC low on mana. You must have not understood that. It will be especially beneficial to Lucian, Jinx, Jhin and more. Also, extra range also helps Lucian, Jinx (W), Jhin (Q E) , and I'm sure there are also more. You missed the mark, these WILL assist other champions that aren't ADCs but they also assist ADCs just as well. So basically, these are all buffs to all roles or they are unbelievably broken buffs to other roles.
iLBGAMing (EUW)
: Yes I know, you didn't understand what I meant. Do you ever see a TF chase something with a blue card or a red card, it will always be yellow card. "Blue card" = Mana Refund not mana regen
<edited by mod> But seriously, if he's chasing someone would you use a stun to get closer or try to get lucky and somehow kill them with blue card or red card. You just disproved yourself. Also I said mana REGAIN not REGEN. Reply so I can keep proving you wrong. Also, the 2nd guy proved you wrong TOO. and then you ignore that.
iLBGAMing (EUW)
: TF never uses other cards
ummmm, blue card mana regain and red card AOE. ur wrong m8
Cerastes (NA)
: stop lying to your self
: Instead of nerfing ad carries, how about we just make it so that supports can support other roles?
>double the effect of lulu ult on melee champions, make janna shield scale with max health, cause the on hit effect of nami's spells to be aoe with melee attacks, etc. what the fuck. Alright so instantly the first suggestions are a giant buff to chogath which means a lulu chogath top meta can be possible, same for cho+janna, possibly the same for cho+NAMI since Chogath can literally have all attacks of his be AOE except R >like a temporary 20% ap steroid cast on an ally buff to all AD marksmen, this does not really enable the ability to help other teammates that aren't the ADC > Or an item that is cast on an ally and increase the range of their next ability by 25%, or an item that drops a totem pole that functions like a mini fountain. doesn't seem to promote assistance to any position other than ADC specifically either The reason why marksmen is needed next to a support the most is because THE ADC NEEDS AN ENTIRE ROLE (aka Support) to help them. ADC's are not going to live without a support 1. because of double bot is a meta that will never die 2. anywhere else, you'd reduce xp gain from your ally since the allies of urs aren't playing champions built to be around someone (most of the time) and 3. you'd end up roaming edit: totally misread "ap steroid". thought it said AD. This will help mages and some assassins
Murl0ugh (NA)
: Why do you feel Wukong neeeds an update? He honestly feels fine to me. I got a friend who mains him and he does fine 70% of the time.
: I play Teemo support a lot, but rarely people ever ban him, even if I declare. But those who ban your pick, screw you guys. You have a special place in hell, right next to Yasuo mains.
if we are gonna start shaming people for their champions, then don't try to join in. you play Teemo support.
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Almighty (EUNE)
: PSA: Do not tell people what champion to pick!
1. Yasuos wouldnt actually want that because then you'd have to time your R to the point where you can also never use it (also what do champions have to do this this, much less ADCs) 2. Don't compare people who tell others to commit suicide and people who ban your intent pick. What the fuck. You just made yourself look like an idiot.
: that's a good skin, raises your account value, also it gives you like... a good rare skin if you ever decide to pick up poppy who's actually an amazing champ
As far as I know, the only good thing raising your account value does is make hackers want your account more or brag about the value. Which obviously, no one cares about. Also it's clear he doesn't like poppy.
Raoul (EUW)
: As a Support main by heart, I am sick of being the ADC slave!
So go fucking top or something. You'll find out why you are always needed next to an ADC.
: An Open Letter to Riot: What I Want to See
Sis where is shaco. that guy got messed up **D** worst in the assassin update. He had his AD build ruined, AP build ruined, and the only build he could use to be viable RUINED. (which was bruiser). That champion is the literal definition of dead right now. The WORST part is that he wasn't a "react in .1 seconds or die" champion like most of the assassins before the update. AD Shaco was, however AP Shaco wasn't. And it's weird because they decided to make AP shaco meta then absolutely trash it, then made AD shaco meta and trashed that too. I don't even KNOW why they tried to do.
: {{champion:38}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:17}} are not healthy champs in design because they force you to not play a certain class of champs which i hope in the future would be changed {{champion:157}} = dont pick ranged champs with projectiles {{champion:17}} = play a champ that isnt auto attack based or rush a qss {{champion:48}} = dont pick any tank {{champion:38}} = dont play a mage or ap assassin
tbh, Yasuo is a super hard counter to ADC's. that's his entire niche (as shown by his kit) Teemo, idk honestly. He's a hard counter to melee and AA based champions. Although that's only shown by his Q, nothing else. Trundle.... yeah lol don't pick any jugg either. Kassadin is actually a counter to casters, so yes he will make anyone who casts spells very frequently want to t die
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