: Who is the most "Noskill" champion?
: Shields and Grevious Wounds.
shields can not have wounds
: > and rushing GW is honestly just so dumb lol At least 1 thing you understand, but this is how the game works. you play against anything that heals, get GW from the shop becuase that requires so much skill and you now counter it. Yes it is dumb. 90% is 10% less than 100% even though you dedicated 3 items and a mastery just to increase healing and again this is caused by half an item. I am just biased! LMAO Maybe we should also allow randuins omen to reduce crit damage by 40% and just for Yasuo we make it like 60-70% because he gets double crit anyway and also because randuins doesn't just cost 800 gold, it's a full item... actually lets say 80%. Seems fair doesn't it?
I mean that means we get to buff bruiser Yasuo like hell so yeah it seems fair LMAO.
: Let me tell you something about heal amplification. Let's say you start at 100% healing power then you add windspeaker and you buy all 3 healboost items. You are now at 150% healing power. Now GW reduces your heals by 40% and you end up with 90% of your initial 100% and keep in mind this is in late game, but you can just rush GW for a ridiculous low price, before any support has even 1 complete item. Players who lose because their opponents heal, simply deserve it and should get ranked bronze 5.
I think you're just biased ( if it wasn't obvious). 1. 90% is still 90%. And it's a pretty good tradeoff for being affected by GW. 2. No one deserves bronze 5 because of some retarded healing, especially if buying GW is not worth it logical if you are AP and rushing GW is honestly just so dumb lol. Healing is the strongest defensive ability to have, shields simply can not compete if both were at equal values. You should not be saying anyone deserving bronze 5 just because healing is that good. edit: Also get the fuck off your high horse, "replying more than this thread deserved" "simply deserve it and should get ranked bronze 5". Am I wrong to accuse you of losing an argument horribly before?
: No champion that relies on healing is truly strong in league of grievous wound. GW items are being sold out, you get it almost for free, wait a few patches and the shop keeper will give you money if you take a GW item with your usual purchase. Its kinda funny how Darius as well as Nasus have inbuild vamp effects and Soraka is mostly about healing, even Janna has an ultimate that gets a lot of healing power. I think you JUST DON'T GET IT.
Well TBH, GW reduces 40% of healing which is a lot right? But then you got stuff that amplifies healing, you also have the luxury of backline, and the luxury of the fact that GW isn't bought that much.
: Does your keyboard have QWER keys? Yes? Achievement: Bruiser Mastery Unlocked
Zeus1590 (NA)
: Well, obviously they might do more missions. I never ruled that out. The missions we got were specifically made for the event, so when the event ended, so did the missions. OP asked "Why we don't get any more missions?" and that's the reason why the current missions ended. I don't see how I can be any more clear.
You just implied there were no more missions in general. from "And they have released no further details regarding future missions" to "ergo no more missions". You aren't even listening to yourself, you already ruled that out.
Zeus1590 (NA)
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support/2BvE9WwM-vs-event-conclusion "**The VS Event officially ended on 6/29/2017. The current iteration of missions were specifically set up for this special event, but this was only the first iteration of missions!** We don't have details at this time, but be on the lookout for missions to roll around again sometime in the future!" As I said, the missions ended because the event ended. And they have released no further details regarding future missions.
"Be on the lookout for missions to roll around again" IS clear proof that they are not gonna be exclusive. Maybe pay attention.
: Guys, i see that there are someone who doesnt agree. I put Tryndamere because Tryndamere SHOULD win a 1v1 against every ADC (except Vayne). But i just couldnt deal any damage to Draven, he just healed and healed. It was a 1v1, so there were no shields, no Kinght Vow's and stuff. (My maxed W decreases 80 AD for every nearby enemy champion, guys, that are 2 B.F SWORDS !!!) He should deal no damage.. Also, Draven's always been that guy who dominates early but never falls off late, which is kinda, you know... Terrible.. If that was a melee champ, nobody wouldnt mind. But dealing that kind of damage from a distance is just .. idk. + he has a self peel and ms buff. Oh, ye. There is our favourite melee champ {{champion:157}} , but honestly i havent seen him in a long time in my games or being bitched about on the boards.. I think Yasuo with PD+DD + some support sh*t like Knight's Vow would be more overpowered.. (don't hate me yasuo mains, i was one of you back in the day lmfao)
If you wanted to be serious, you should've put Yasuo vs an ADC since he is supposed to counter that and see if Yasuo wins. Also, Knight's Vow would make him lose too much damage potential just to survive for a few more seconds, his base stats is too low to benefit much from it. But that's if he's building it. DD is meh on Yasuo too, BT is way better because it has a shield on it.
Zeus1590 (NA)
: The event is over, ergo no more missions.
Pretty sure Riot themselves said missions were going to be a regular thing and not exclusive to the event, bud.
rewt127 (NA)
: Your Main isnt as difficult as you say it is.
I mean... okay? It's not like you are the first person to say my champion isn't difficult.
: Because Kog'Maw is the Kog'Maw version of Kog'Maw damage at Kog'Martillery range, which neither of the other two can Maw at such Kog.
: feels bad playing high IQ bruisers and being facerolled by 'late game' mages in lane
I find Darius more reliable than Yi, and I have m7 and 100k mastery points on both of those guys. Just sayin'.
Sumppì (EUNE)
: ***
1. why does and why would he have tld, and how'd he proc it because he'd have to full combo you before that 2. u probably built 0 armor 3. according to **Death Recap, TOTALLY NOT UNRELIABLE** 4. I need more proof than just empty claims
agEdri (NA)
: I think that's just part of learning the game. I've got a good idea on a lot of mana costs per champ, and a general idea of them on others. Either way it seems a bit more helpful than just a flat percentage.
memorizing approximately 50+ champions mana costs is insane, it's not that good.
agEdri (NA)
: Love this idea. Knowing a flat amount on ping would be extremely helpful. If someone pings 10%, I don't know right away if that means he can Q>R, or he can R, or he can't do anything. Great idea, +1.
So what if we don't know their mana costs? A flat amount won't help more than helping you guess if they can use ultimate or not (since that is usually 100 mana)
: Why do you choose to ban Yasuo? Open discussion...
Rexxiee (NA)
: Draven is not broken because of DD, stop spreading that myth.
Is it a thing where people think supports making the ADC unkillable means the ADC is broken. Because it's getting old.
Sumppì (EUNE)
: ***
are you being serious or what, because i can't see this as for real.
: dear diary
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higura (EUW)
: im gonna keep this short because you are just going tho the motions of choseing and picking to get the statement you want. im not here to waste my time with someone that rather wanna create a strawman, than haveing a meaningful conversation... as is showed from the very start of your text: > Lmao what. How did I contradict myself. > I said his DPS would increase without his damage actually increasing, because his ult ends already here are you picking the stament and applying it out of context. the contradiction was (as i posted in my message): > "Power sink to his laneing" is good because they want his laning phase weak in general, that has been his goal since he was made and that should be emphasized. and then after you say > Also, wind wall can be used throughout the whole game. Not sure where you didn't get that. Projectiles are common. you can't say a ability is intentional made "weak" but very usefull in certain situations, that makes it "situational" not "weak" and was my entire point of my original post. it had nothing to do with the ult air time, it's called "reading the text" insted of just "pick and chose till it sounds nice in my head". and to answer you on the dps: yasuo is gonna apply that damage if theres air time or not, the only difference is how long they are in the air, which neither yasuo or his taget can make use of anyway. then you go over those tiny mistakes i made and trys to make it seem like i was calling yasuo a diver again. 1: i ment to say skirmisher. 2: i never compared yasuo to a diver. 3: stop trying to put words in my month, it makes you look pathetic and desperate. you got a very bad habit of twisting words to make them suit your agenda and quite frankly, i got better things to do than answer post from someone that just make up stuff. so this is probaly gonna be the last time i'm gonna answer you. regards. higura.
sorry but you're speaking some other language because this is nowhere near understandable. all ur doing is saying I'm twisting ur words when I'm quoting them the exact way they are. also wtf are u talking about when u discuss DPS. i said his DPS increases without his damage actually increasing because the time in the air reduces DPS because no damage is being done while airborne, but if you remove that air time yasuo can get straight back to slashing. idk what ur saying. u also said that i stated an ability is intentionally weak when i never stated so?? you didn't quote it either so now i just see ass pulls rn. if you thought i said his early game is supposed to be weak means the abilities he has are made intentionally weak/one of the abilities he has (like windfall) then idk what to say. his laning phase is weak by base stats not by abilities. no idea wtf u are trying to revive this for, u clearly have no point other than "nerf yasuo cuz he's at 46% win rate and thats too high" "and i'll down vote him too so i look like i have majority favor but no one is even here anyway" also he needs fluff to work with other people because he isn't an assassin and his team fighting would be insanely horrible, being a pseudo nasus in team fights
Fowus (NA)
: ok so his ult damage is reduced.... if he runs away it is hardly a fight because yi can also just pop ult and run after zed ults him and w isnt enough to chase ulting yi with boots and maybe zeal items yi shits on zed so hard if it is a straight 1v1
by that time yi would've already popped ultimate or he'd get destroyed because he'd eat damage. Zed can make it a victory for him or just run away, no contest
: Its 2017 and Black Cleaver is still the most overloaded item in the game
higura (EUW)
: > because it revolves around yasuo as if he's a diver. no it doesn't, i just mixed up 2 classes names, my entire post was about him as a skirmisher (hence why i compared him to 2 other skirmishers) > For example, the first two sentences act as if Yasuo isn't supposed to have a bad lane, and obviously, act as if Yasuo is a Diver. i never said he shouldn't have a bad laneing phase, i said he's defensive ability should be more versatile in it uses but more self centered in nature (like every other skirmisher). i never said, "change him into a early game power house" and giveing him a less specific defensiv tool to protekt himself early isn't gonna change him into one, most (if not all) late game champs has them already. > "Power sink to his laneing" is good because they want his laning phase weak in general, that has been his goal since he was made and that should be emphasized. > Also, wind wall can be used throughout the whole game. Not sure where you didn't get that. Projectiles are common. 1: more things you just pulled out from your behind, the only way you got to this was from twisting my words 2: contradicting yourself. 3: has nothing to do with my point. > "extra air time" is there because, extra air time. If his ult just goes off in a fraction of a second, not only will he be extremely fast paced but also increase DPS as a side effect (without his damage actually being increased). it wouldn't at all be that fast, he still need to hit Q X3 or be hit by a other knock up effect, he isn't just gonna blink to a taget from out the fuk nowhere. also 200/300/400 (+1.5 per bonus attack damage) physical damage = 200/300/400 (+1.5 per bonus attack damage) physical damage, it doesn't just change for no reason just because we remove air time. just gonna ignor the last of your text because it's just you talking out your behind again about me compareing him to a diver, which i didn't, so it's pointless...
Lmao what. How did I contradict myself. I said his DPS would increase without his damage actually increasing, because his ult ends sooner which means he can keep his DPS stable as if he hadn't used ult, which is 1-2 seconds worth of 0 damage being done until its over. If we removed the air time, it's as I said. Increased DPS without damage actually being increased. Like, how did you not miss the part where I said "Damage not actually being increased" then you go "200/300/400 (+1.5 per bonus attack damage) physical damage = 200/300/400 (+1.5 per bonus attack damage) physical damage" as if I said it increases it's damage, you aren't twisting words you just aren't understanding them. But I didn't even point out yet that I said it increases DPS if air time was removed, and you translate that to "ULT DAMAGE INCREASES". Enough said about that part. BTW. DPS means damage per second. So if those 1-2 seconds Yasuo does no damage (which does lower DPS) were removed. his DPS would be stable thus his DPS technically increasing. I'm guessing you thought I am contradicting myself when I quoted you then I said my part, and you got that confused. And I think that happened because "you never said he shouldn't have a bad laning phase" but as you state "is a power sink to his laneing" as an excuse to remove his wind wall, WHICH IMPLIES that Yasuo should have a better laning phase when it's intentionally bad. My assumption was justified. Also > then the windwall should just be removed, it serves no purpose to his role as a skirmisher (originally said diver) is one implication you didn't just confuse the class name, you acted as if he WAS a Diver. because a wind wall is bad for diver's as it serves nearly no purpose as Yasuo has no real escape in the first place. Which if Yasuo was a Diver, this statement would be correct. > the 2 thing i would like to see changed is his extra air time doing ult, it just doesn't make any sense for a skirmisher (originally said Diver) to have, he can't even get some use out of it from himself as he is locking himself in place with the enemy See this also would make sense if Yasuo was actually a Diver, because why would a Diver have something that makes them bad at Diving. It also makes more sense because after that you say he has no ability that works with his ultimate, which can be translated to that it doesn't make sense as Camille has her hookshot to work with her ultimate and Yasuo doesn't. So this implies that Yasuo is missing a tool that works with R. Which means that you saw him as a Diver like Camille. Which MEANS YOU ARGUED AS IF YASUO WAS AND IS A DIVER. Also, Jax has an E that stuns in an Area around him, which means he can use that to stun some/most of of the enemy team which counts as not being so self centered, Riven can use ult wave to hit the entire enemy team which isn't exactly self centered. FOR GODS SAKE, FIORA HAS AN AOE HEAL THAT IS NOT SELF CENTERED AS IT IS BIGGER THAN KINDRED'S ULTIMATE. Skirmishers ARE ALLOWED to have things that aren't self centered. IF THEY HAD NOTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'D BE ASSASSINS.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Hey adc players:
Stereotype of all ADC's Not directly gameplay related We got 2 out of 5 generic post traits.
Fowus (NA)
: yet he cant all in yi at all because Yi just laughs off the damage while in his w and red smiting zed to show his dominance
but then zed can just keep running away while he is in W, and Zed cant throw all his damage at the same time so you kinda just lost this.
Fowus (NA)
: what Yi loses to zed? none of these are exact beat downs
Zed W and R shadows can put more distance, atleast enough so that Yi's Q won't be enough at all. He eventually gets kited and Q'd easily, basically eating damage.
: Since he is often OP and 10 bans exists is why it happens. Same reason why this guy has a 90% banrate in NA bronze {{champion:157}}
Yasuo isn't close to OP in mid lane with a 46% maximum winrate mid lane.
: My OP is about class counters, not individual champion performance against other individual champions.
My point is that Assassins counter fighters, more specifically skirmishers.
: Can we nerf Darius's early
pretty sure AA Q as darius level 1 will do like 1/5th of ur hp at best
: (almost) Every hated champion in one search result...
Pretty sure I see Yasuo get rekt by Zed more than vice versa. Just sayin'. Infact, I see skirmishers get beat down by assassins in general. Fizz to Yi, Zed to Yi, Fizz to Yasuo, Zed to Yasuo, Rengar to Yasuo, Rengar to Yi, Kha'zix to Yasuo, Kha'zix to yi, like holy shit.
: The first thing I noticed was you on Yasuo having the most honor... But then I realised Riven got the most honors on her team aswell. What has life come to?
BTW Whenever Janna died I said in all chat "you killed my wind wife".
: QoL Yasuo nerf
This enables Yasuo to be more squishy thus base stat buff, because he's already a LOW LOW winrate mid for an OP guy.
higura (EUW)
: > He's not a diver? He's a skirmisher, omg. You just negated your entire argument. there, edited 2 words (a honest mistake because i wrote the comment 2 am and was tired). now, care to explain how it "negated" my arguement exactly?.
because it revolves around yasuo as if he's a diver. For example, the first two sentences act as if Yasuo isn't supposed to have a bad lane, and obviously, act as if Yasuo is a Diver. "Power sink to his laneing" is good because they want his laning phase weak in general, that has been his goal since he was made and that should be emphasized. "extra air time" is there because, extra air time. If his ult just goes off in a fraction of a second, not only will he be extremely fast paced but also increase DPS as a side effect (without his damage actually being increased). Ultimate time also discourages diving, and again. You go at it as if Yasuo is supposed to be a diver. No way you actually thought he was a skirmisher while typing this, unless you are misinformed. Also, your bad examples of Jax E blocking all auto attacks for friendly units or Riven shielding all friendly units, literally makes windwall look like utter shit. Why? Because Riven E blocks more stuff and scales on damage for who ever the hell came up with that, she can block EVERY source of damage and Yasuo can only block projectiles. Jax E blocks all auto attacks which means he can be more in the adc's face than Yasuo because Jax can walk with his defense and Yasuo has to leave his behind. Another reason why he is not a diver, is because his defense tools are completely stumped when it comes to tower diving. His flow shield can't block tower shots, his wind wall isn't able to move with him and ALSO can't block tower shots, his base stats are crap for tower diving and since he relies on auto attacks, he has more of a chance to click the tower by accident than the enemy. Thanks angled camera, you actually have an impact in balance. Anyways, If Riven E and Jax E did that then Yasuo's W would basically look like a poor mans Riven E/Jax E. Also, wind wall can be used throughout the whole game. Not sure where you didn't get that. Projectiles are common. Also, environment danger ultimate fluff is there because Yasuo is so squishy, so he has to CC them so they die before he does. And usually it's both of them dying. He is also supposed to work well with teammates so wind wall and ultimate suspension is justified.
higura (EUW)
: if i were to give my 5 cents, then the windwall should just be removed, it serves no purpose to his role as a skirmisher and is just a power sink to his laneing because of the utility it brings to his team mates once team fights start. (would be like if {{champion:92}} shielded all friendly units around her with E or if {{champion:24}} blocked all auto attack for all friendly units in a area around him), the ability should be more self centered in nature. the 2 thing i would like to see changed is his extra air time doing ult, it just doesn't make any sense for a skirmisher to have, he can't even get some use out of it from himself as he is locking himself in place with the enemy (and unlike a champ like {{champion:90}} ) doesn't he have any ability that work together with it , the only way {{champion:157}} can benefit from the extra air time is if the enemy is in environment danger (like a tower dive) or if his team mates need to catch up). basicly, remove the fluff thats just there for his team mates to use and give him tools he can use thoughout the whole game insted of just specific parts of a fight.
He's not a diver? He's a skirmisher, omg. You just negated your entire argument.
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FNC Jinx (NA)
: I can't wait for Cait Nerfs
and he's not even good
: http://i.imgur.com/RZ21M7Q.png
isnt that for towers that arent in heimer's presence
: http://i.imgur.com/9x3NUF4.png http://i.imgur.com/mo6JxTX.png http://i.imgur.com/iWNA4PS.png http://i.imgur.com/RZ21M7Q.png Sure bro, wins any matchup in which the enemy doesn't have an auto reset and isn't ranged. He's only played top for a reason.
While I agree that he loses some matchups HARD, he also doesn't lose that many in the first place.
: Can a Rioter tell us in detail why you think Lee sin is balance in the state he is in?
He has a good winrate for his high playrate, which is below 50%. He is fine in the state he is in, only busted in really high elo.
Shahamut (NA)
: Yasuo's defensive abilities are all grossly over exaggerated. Highest deaths per game on average, worst kda average, regardless of elo...
I would have pointed that out too but I had no idea where to get that Information so I just rolled with it... Lol.
: Question about Tibbers
I swear, that ultimate gets me all the time. I kill Annie, drop ult last second and I either get chunked so hard I almost die or I just die then and there. She uses it, I come back to lane after killing me with it and now she's just staring at me for some reason, like she is **waiting**. I think it has too much power for too less cost like you do but I think the "avenge annie" mechanic is an issue, because its a punishment for eliminating a threat. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327335377222238208/330170541497647105/unknown.png
: Jax's winrate went up 1.2% with those buffs
"If my brother gets spoiled with toys and money and becomes a corrupt member of society, why can't I? I don't wanna be a better person!"
: > [{quoted}](name=Vlad Maine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jvKhiK2r,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-07-03T09:02:52.489+0000) > > Yasuo absolutely DESTROYS Lux... absolutely DESTROYS. Its not even funny. > > You want to beat Yasuo? Pick {{champion:1}}. You ever picked {{champion:33}} top just to tilt him?
MFW I used to pseudo-main Rammus before Yasuo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327335377222238208/331188630716678154/Screen_Shot_2017-07-01_at_5.05.16_PM.png
: Yasuo?
See, if you were talking about top and saying he dominates in a lot of them then that would be an exaggeration. But if you were talking about mid... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322825856802357249/331377142577233932/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322825856802357249/331377561021972481/unknown.png You basically came at people with bad arguments. You stated speed and mobility which makes no sense as they are virtually the same thing or you think Yasuo has an MS boost? He has very low AD for someone with huge crits, and his flow shield while being a good passive is also a really bad shield.
: Add a TitleWhy is Xin a problem every game?
He's always like that. They gave him a free crit on 3rd strike too. I don't know why but whatever.
: I completely agree with this, if you look in my match history you will see i played a game of yasuo and did very good. However lane phase? this was not the case. My dumb as fuck jungler did a gank level 3 and died giving him red buff. What was I the yasuo to do? Sit under tower and pray to rito based gods to allow me to cs. the experience was missery.
Darius is the hardest counter to Yasuo other than Pantheon, him getting red buff and a kill would obviously set your laning phase in stone.
: Sooo PBE had a nerf for Stattik Shiv on its way
LMAO, sounded more like PD being forced on Yasuo at first.
Jaygo41 (NA)
: How would you fix AD buying tabi?
Probably lower Bot Lane ADC attack speed stats, atleast enough till BG is a better/equally good choice.
: So Darius win rate hit 49%
It's a good win rate as long as it's higher than/IS Yasuo's win rate. Yasuo Hate joke lol
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