: I do agree, Damage is a bit much at the moment. I mean, this is League of Legends and not Overwatch. Things should not kill you in 1 hit.
yup I have been playing paragon alot lately and it has potential to be better than league and it's still new. I want more counterplay in this game not get fucked because someone used a point click ability but missed half other skillshots.
: Does the game seem less strategic to you?
I feel the game is way too bursty now and items like Maw - Abyss - Hourglass ect are something you have to build 100% after your first item built. If they lowered damage a bit then I think the game would be alot better... not fun getting 100-0d by one ability from syndra or flash q auto from vayne lol
awdaf (NA)
: "I must win my lane" No, you don't have to, going even is better than losing lane
Trying to go even in lane does not work with most matchups though... if you literally do nothing and try and rely on your jg to help you then you won't get anything going and probably will end up losing lane when your laner dicks you with a cs lead because you never tried to fight him.. some matchsup 1 champ will outscale after 6 so you have to do something beforehand or you will never be able to and he will just be able to push you in and roam without any fear.
: His playrate in diamond and master?????Can you even read or is that too much to ask from a support player?
> [{quoted}](name=Vanye W3st,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=h4XBgmWE,comment-id=0005000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T23:05:18.632+0000) > > His playrate in diamond and master?????Can you even read or is that too much to ask from a support player? you are dumb af lmao
: Funny how instead of nerfing the ADCs that obviously need nerfs...
Riot refuses to listen to anyone even pro players, so many champions right now are completely retarded and need to be fixed. They keep buffing champions that are currently meta and nerfing others that are not meta and it's causing more and more problems. One champion I see right now that really needs to be looked at is Syndra... being able to 100-0 an adc or even someone who has an item such as Abyssal or Maw is completely retarded and I have 0 idea why it's not been hard nerfed yet. I'v been playing Paragon lately and I have been having more fun on there then on League and this game has been dying after season 5 with all these terrible changes like champion reworks for example.
: Let's pretend that something would change if it was longer.But why are you ignoring all the other stats? :)
what other stats? the ones from below plat elo? also thresh winrate is awful lmao thresh is not even good you just suck ass at this game tbh.
: You ok man?You bring up the stats that you got out of your ass, i bring up the actual stats and you call me retarded.. :thinking:
> [{quoted}](name=Vanye W3st,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=h4XBgmWE,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-30T00:18:46.905+0000) > > You ok man?You bring up the stats that you got out of your ass, i bring up the actual stats and you call me retarded.. > :thinking: looking up a stat from a 3 day event is pretty sick. good job
: ? Oh and 36% pickrate in diamond and third most played support in master, but stay delusional
> [{quoted}](name=Vanye W3st,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=h4XBgmWE,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T23:53:15.831+0000) > > ? > Oh and 36% pickrate in diamond and third most played support in master, but stay delusional if you say so lmao
Elohaven (NA)
: And she still gets curbstomped.
> [{quoted}](name=rubbinmyclit7013,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sB9pt9MK,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T20:17:19.558+0000) > > And she still gets curbstomped. wrong lol you literally can ban cait and pick vayne and be fine.
: > [{quoted}](name=Yoshino Hentai ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=js7rzqmT,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T19:51:39.393+0000) > > dude that is every single competitive game ever..even in sports like basketball for example people just trash talk everytime. if someone is doing that then mute them if you don't wanna hear it lol yea its in eveyr competitive game it says somethin when blizzard had to make alternate sayings when people typed out ggez in overwatch
> [{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=js7rzqmT,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T19:56:03.496+0000) > > yea its in eveyr competitive game > it says somethin when blizzard had to make alternate sayings when people typed out ggez in overwatch They actually never wanted to put that in the game but they also wanted overwatch to be early teen friendly I guess.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: your icon means you probably have spent money in the game,have fun in the rift knowing that you may get perma banned for calling other players bad.
I didn't buy the icon or any skin on this game. I also don't act toxic af to where im banned forever lmao
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: Remove Permabans.
Elohaven (NA)
: Vayne doesn't need a nerf. She has less than a 50% winrate and is squishier than smashed potatoes. Caitlyn definitely does need one though. She is a complete nuisance who can just poke and run away at any time. Plus, with a support, it's almost impossible to beat her early game.
> [{quoted}](name=rubbinmyclit7013,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sB9pt9MK,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-12-29T19:47:21.938+0000) > > Vayne doesn't need a nerf. She has less than a 50% winrate and is squishier than smashed potatoes. > > Caitlyn definitely does need one though. She is a complete nuisance who can just poke and run away at any time. Plus, with a support, it's almost impossible to beat her early game. Vayne is literally picked almost every game in high elo. ??? lol
: > [{quoted}](name=Yoshino Hentai ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=js7rzqmT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-29T19:46:16.705+0000) > > This is in every game lol it's nothing new. If you can't put up with a bit of smack talk then you shouldn't be playing a competitive game in general. thats not an excuse its just justifying toxic behavior thats not smack talk thats being toxic even more so when people spam it through out the game an start "smack talking" an bragging calling other people bad
> [{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=js7rzqmT,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-12-29T19:49:11.934+0000) > > thats not an excuse > its just justifying toxic behavior thats not smack talk thats being toxic even more so when people spam it through out the game an start "smack talking" an bragging calling other people bad dude that is every single competitive game ever..even in sports like basketball for example people just trash talk everytime. if someone is doing that then mute them if you don't wanna hear it lol
: 20 minutes to find a game
I find it pretty hard to believe that you are having 20min queues in silver elo. not tryin to be a dick it's just that bronze up to low diamond get at most like 8min queues if the queue is actually long.
: can we do somethin about
This is in every game lol it's nothing new. If you can't put up with a bit of smack talk then you shouldn't be playing a competitive game in general.
Hige (NA)
: Ashe needs a small love tap
I don't think she needs to be touched at all. What needs to happen is the current champions that are meta need to be toned down especially ones in bot lane such as Vayne and Caitlyn. If you end up just buffing her right now then she will just become the number 1 adc again and then have to be nerfed causing more problems.
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yoshino Hentai ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ElNReJQ1,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-29T04:53:04.859+0000) > > This. Riven has a hard time engaging onto Lux because of her Q and E and 90% of Lux players run with Barrier/Ghost/Heal making it even harder to all in her. The problem is that Riven's existence denies CS. Until you finish your Necronomicon, an E will leave the caster minions at 10-20 health. One hit from any of your minions will kill them. You cannot get in range to hit them without risking Riven jumping on you, so you potentially lose half of every wave to your minions randomly deciding to switch to a low caster minion. > [{quoted}](name=ChaddyFantome,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ElNReJQ1,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-12-29T05:22:24.472+0000) > > Stopped reading. > > How the bloody hell is she touching you tho?!?! You are Lux, you literally can just throw E's from 2 screens away and Q if she even dares gets near you. If Riven gets hit by any of Lux's abilities, it's because Riven is bad, period. There's no other reason. If you bound her from melee range (in the event that the Riven is, once again, bad, and didn't anticipate your Q), she's also in range to stun you, so you're losing most of your binding and you're not getting away after.
> [{quoted}](name=Yenn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ElNReJQ1,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T05:36:50.487+0000) > > The problem is that Riven's existence denies CS. Until you finish your Necronomicon, an E will leave the caster minions at 10-20 health. One hit from any of your minions will kill them. You cannot get in range to hit them without risking Riven jumping on you, so you potentially lose half of every wave to your minions randomly deciding to switch to a low caster minion. > > If Riven gets hit by any of Lux's abilities, it's because Riven is bad, period. There's no other reason. If you bound her from melee range (in the event that the Riven is, once again, bad, and didn't anticipate your Q), she's also in range to stun you, so you're losing most of your binding and you're not getting away after. actually lux should be the one denying riven cs due to her range. there is 0 reason you should have problems in that matchup unless you get outplayed and just suck at hitting q.. you literally can use q while shes in mid animation of her own q towards you. Get good.
: You sure about that bud https://gyazo.com/c2eb3ec2490088437899eb5d0319b941
> [{quoted}](name=Vanye W3st,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=h4XBgmWE,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2016-12-29T14:06:35.725+0000) > > You sure about that bud > https://gyazo.com/c2eb3ec2490088437899eb5d0319b941 can't tell if retarded or not.
: In my promos and the client started to glitch.
You know you can just tab out and back in to fix this bug right
: while maw is too strong, lux can outpoke riven i think
> [{quoted}](name=bad arcade kitty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ElNReJQ1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-12-29T04:51:21.170+0000) > > while maw is too strong, lux can outpoke riven i think This. Riven has a hard time engaging onto Lux because of her Q and E and 90% of Lux players run with Barrier/Ghost/Heal making it even harder to all in her.
: I need your guys help on this
I'm pretty sure riot would not ban you for recovering your account too much. Make a ticket and see what they say and if they don't want to unban you for whatever you did then you have to make a new account.
Tonay (NA)
: Nerf Infinity Edge - This will fix many issues in the current meta
This will not come anywhere close to fixing any problem with the current meta.
Yenn (NA)
: Can we please do something about Maw?
I don't feel like maw is a huge problem tbh. If you are playing lux into riven you literally should never die to that ever just because you have q and e to kite while also using your w and im assuming you have flash ontop of either ghost or barrier. Maw stops burst mages from 100-0ing them early in the game and makes them have to use 2 rotation of abilities to score a kill (same with melee).
: I dont see the point of playing normals to prepare for ranked with mismatches this bad.
Riot cannot do anything about people playing on smurfs and they cannot do anything about a diamond player queueing with multiple low elo players because that's just about how every game with an mmr system works. Honestly if you want to become good at this game then you should vs higher ranked players and adapt to them. You should be trying to improve your gameplay and figure out why you got outplayed or why you couldn't kill someone 1v1 or loss lane and team fights ect.. not just blaming it on the mmr system. Before I queued ranked I played about 300ish normal games around high gold and low plat mmr when I was at probably silver level when it came to my own personal skill and I just kept queueing until I could actually play decently vs these players.
: Zed is depressed
Zed was always trash after mid season 5. Meta and item changes are what fucked him badly.
: We've had a lot of conversations about this since the original implementation of the first turret bonus. There's always been a a slight feeling that the number is too high. But, we aren't convinced that lowering it makes for a better game. At the current number, it creates interesting decisions for players. Do you stick around for longer and risk your life for the turret? Do you attempt to create more pressure in lane? It's possible we could retain the those questions with a lower number, but nothing about the decisions it's creating would make us want to change the bonus amount. The other important question, that other posters already reflected on, is what is it doing to the game pacing? It is a snowball mechanic, and on the patch it was released we saw the expected increase of snowballing off of the first tower. However, the movement wasn't that large, and there was a general sentiment I'd heard and agreed with that the game wasn't snowbally enough at that point in time. Winning lane or early game contributions didn't hold enough weight. I don't know that we're in a perfect state now for pacing. But we've had game states in the past that were much more snowbally by my personal feel. If we determine that pacing is an issue and the game gets too snowballed, I don't know that we would actually reduce the bonus gold here, and might instead use a different lever.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Sotere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NujBcyZp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-12-28T10:59:49.070+0000) > > We've had a lot of conversations about this since the original implementation of the first turret bonus. There's always been a a slight feeling that the number is too high. But, we aren't convinced that lowering it makes for a better game. > > At the current number, it creates interesting decisions for players. Do you stick around for longer and risk your life for the turret? Do you attempt to create more pressure in lane? It's possible we could retain the those questions with a lower number, but nothing about the decisions it's creating would make us want to change the bonus amount. > > The other important question, that other posters already reflected on, is what is it doing to the game pacing? It is a snowball mechanic, and on the patch it was released we saw the expected increase of snowballing off of the first tower. However, the movement wasn't that large, and there was a general sentiment I'd heard and agreed with that the game wasn't snowbally enough at that point in time. Winning lane or early game contributions didn't hold enough weight. > > I don't know that we're in a perfect state now for pacing. But we've had game states in the past that were much more snowbally by my personal feel. If we determine that pacing is an issue and the game gets too snowballed, I don't know that we would actually reduce the bonus gold here, and might instead use a different lever. The problem is first blood tower is very snowbally right now. for example in pro play if you lane swap and both teams push for first tower then whoever gets first tower first (normally being top lane due to him being a solo laner) then he gains too much of an advantage vs his enemy laner. I think that the gold should be split between your team just like how shutdowns work, this would still give your team advantage over time but not allowing early game first tower to have such an impact early.
Cloud273 (NA)
: Lee Sin has overcentalized jungle for years...
No since thresh is actually bad right now compared to other supports. Hes literally played only in low elo being plat or below and if you check his stats for diamond/masters/challenger hes rarely picked.
: Elo hell may not be real, but Bronze is sure as hell frustrating
dude if you are legit having problems with bronze and you claim to be a gold/plat player then you just suck lol. pick a solo lane and pick a champ you can faceroll with and you will have 0 problems climbing.. legit whenever I smurf in that elo I have a 90% or higher winrate and the losses being from people dcing or afking and it being 3v5 ect. Also the only way you will ever actually climb to high elo is if you play every game as if you have to hard carry and if you play to rely on team then you won't climb.
Elrosp (NA)
: Help me out of elo hell Riot
Silver/gold is probably the easiest elo to climb. You need to get better at the game to be able to climb.
: Unfair permaban
You won't be getting your account back. It really does not matter if you are a lawyer or whatever they don't care about that.
: > [{quoted}](name=PFK jecss,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAhO6E16,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-10-02T19:40:13.845+0000) > > Actually Annie is pretty bad in the current meta No she's not.
> [{quoted}](name=PermabannedGaren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAhO6E16,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-10-02T23:24:28.130+0000) > > No she's not. You sure? ask anyone who mains annie in high elo. atm shes one of the worst mid laners right now in this meta because shes so easy to be counterpicked and lane camped. plus qss and locket / mikael just fucks her completely
Sciela (NA)
: "... has a lot of counters in lane." -- goes into a teamfight 0/9, pushes R, and is instantly ahead.
I don't wanna sound like a dbag but if you legit think that's how annie works then you will never climb up in elo.
Sciela (NA)
: Why does Annie exist?
Actually Annie is pretty bad in the current meta.. she has alot of counters in lane atm and is pretty easy to deal with.
: how do i explain to someone that a max hp build on soraka isnt effective?
Actually it depends on alot of different situations. for example you can build tank items on soraka with HP to help with bursty / all in comps. Personally when I play soraka I build Talisman ruby sightstone merc/ninja/lucid boots locket frozen heart or spirit visage depending on comp i'm facing and mikael/ardent.

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