Ralanr (NA)
: How much do people expect to survive by building no defensive items though?
> [{quoted}](name=Penns,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eMEMgMen,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-04-08T23:10:51.436+0000) > > By "a lot of damage" people mean "the Maokai jumps on me and does like 800 damage with a rotation", which is a lot of damage for someone that built 0 offensive items and doesnt ever die. > [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eMEMgMen,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-04-08T23:12:22.549+0000) > > How much do people expect to survive by building no defensive items though? You just highlighted the problem right there. I hope you caught yourself. In this situation, tanks get to build purely defensive items, and your response was "well that's because squishes aren't building defensive items", well if the tank isn't building offensive related items why should other champions need to build defensive items to counteract said champion? That's where the imbalance lies.
: > [{quoted}](name=AIIan,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=V5eTr5iu,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-04-05T10:25:16.652+0000) > > You must be fun at parties. > > And good job at implying video game based litterature can't be studied at school. Go ahead and shit on entire pieces of work because of their content, I'm sure no one will mind. Noo, videogames should be studied in schools alright. Why, so many videogames address important social, psychological or political issues in a mature, well-written, intelligent manner. I advise you to quit your school and go to some "videogame school". So I can be more powerful than you. Because knowledge is power. :)
> [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=V5eTr5iu,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-05T10:50:52.373+0000) > > Noo, videogames should be studied in schools alright. > Why, so many videogames address important social, psychological or political issues in a mature, well-written, intelligent manner. > > I advise you to quit your school and go to some "videogame school". > > So I can be more powerful than you. > > Because knowledge is power. :) You do realize that you're trying to bash video games while you are also playing the same video game, and also acknowledge that you read video game lore because you're browsing the section of the forums about video game lore right? Also, one more thing, in "video game school", but also in the regular English language taught by schools, video game is considered two different words, it's not written as "videogame". I wonder what mature, well-written, intelligent educational system taught you that they were one word. Knowledge sure is power my friend, couldn't have said it any better then that.
: PROJECT, Battlecast, Mecha, and Program: Some Connections?
: Fear the Void, you should: here's why
I love your analysis and interpretation of the void, but I don't think "The Entity" was someone that created the void, rather something that was able to control the will of the void. I believe since the dawn of time the void was a part of the universe just like Aurelion Sol. Reposting my idea from a previous thread: > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EPfUJdb1,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T01:00:27.827+0000) > > I feel like the void is more of a will then it is alive. The void makes you have an unquenchable hunger that you need to satisfy, whatever it is. Just like how the black mist isn't really a soul(yes the mist does have souls but the mist itself isn't one), but still demonize and corrupt beings. Just like the mist I believe the void can be controlled(Kassadin). The mist was not able to subdue Mordekaiser and mordekaiser gained the powers of the mist. I say that because the Void seems too structured of a world to be created by just one being. In the Rek'Sai Q&A we get a glimpse at the world of the void, it seems like a negative, corrupted Runeterra. Two posts I can pull here talk about there being tunnels and several species (and even a hierachy) in the void. So "The Entity" is probably at the top of the hierachy. "The Entity" probably came in afterwards because if he and Sol were created at almost the same time, how would Sol not be able to recognize him in the color story? He said he had never felt a power quite like that. The posts by RIOTers: > [{quoted}](name=Utora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4q7zYFAK,comment-id=00560000,timestamp=2014-12-02T20:30:49.172+0000) > I'll add some other thoughts since your question brings up a few more interesting points. I think it's safe to assume that the Void is a very diverse place with alot of different species with varying degrees of intelligence. Think for a moment about Earth and how many species there are (8.7 million says google) and how many different crazy sounds they make. Not saying there are parallels between the Earth and the Void but I'm sure the Void has a very diverse population of creatures and entities. Look at the differences between Vel'Koz and Kog'Maw. I like to think that if one of the other Void champions were out and about and ran into Rek'Sai it'd be very much like a human out in the woods running into a wild aggressive bear. If I were Cho'Gath I would most likely be terrified of running into her. > > And I think for some champions it's probably an innate ability to speak language (like {{champion:161}} ) and for others ({{champion:96}} ) it's possible they picked up little bits and pieces along the way. > > 3.) We actually had several discussions about this. **Rek'Sai pretty much confirms there is some kind of burrow-able terrain __in the void**. > > Hope I was able to answer your questions! I can't wait for you to experience playing her :) > [{quoted}](name=Utora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4q7zYFAK,comment-id=007c0001,timestamp=2014-12-02T21:25:13.163+0000) > > Reksai is the Queen of her species, the Xer'Sai. Vel'Koz is on a different level of Void species hierarchy. The information Vel'Koz has on Rek'sai is - if I ever encounter Rek'sai in the wild I should get as far away as quickly as possible :) wait - but then Tremor Sense...I think Vel'Koz would be smart enough to never be in that position in the first place :P Keep in mind Rek'Sai was created after the announcement of the retcon, so whatever information we got from the void here seems plausible. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/07xOtA8F-when-will-we-get-some-info-on-the-voids-leadership
: This is why i never play Kalista nor like having her on my team even if im supporting her she strives on dealing bonus damage if her oathsworn partner attacks the same target which is a very pointless for SoloQ players where there is poor communication and poor coordination. Last time i played her was march of 2016 my support rage quit on me when i told them I'm not even a good adc and i wanted to just farm. Tried to get the black spear back and give it to my jungler but nope you can't do that.
> [{quoted}](name=SkarlStoleMyTaco,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=93oHddOR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-31T02:06:29.813+0000) > Last time i played her was march of 2016 my support rage quit on me when i told them I'm not even a good adc and i wanted to just farm. I'm sorry for your terrible experience but i literally died laughing when i read this.
Sharjo (EUW)
: The Hour of Need - New Demacia Related Teaser
Damn, Galio seems to have hit the gym.
: PLEASE RELEASE COSMIC REAVER CHROMAS RIOT
Bump so it at least goes into the new section
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KwE0kybp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-13T13:35:29.241+0000) > > Well we don't know if her enchantments even work on some champions. > > I mean we found out in the harrowing event that most of the undead from the shadow isles are actually immune against regular weapons that aren't made of demacian steel,yet ingame we can punch/slice/shoot them with pretty much anything. > > So in the lore,Lulus magic might be completely ineffective against someone like Aurelion Sol and we can only turn him into a squirrel ingame because it would be unfair otherwise. Even Bard can be affected by magic lorewise. Aurelion was imprisoned by a magical crown. Undeads arent inmune to magic... no champion is. Even a splitsecond of being turned into a flower would be more than enough. All hail Lulu, the most powerfull champion of all.
> [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KwE0kybp,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-13T15:25:40.684+0000) > Aurelion was imprisoned by a magical crown. Undeads arent inmune to magic... no champion is. Even a splitsecond of being turned into a flower would be more than enough. > > All hail Lulu, the most powerfull champion of all. Aurelion had to be deceived and the crown didn't actually constrain him, it was a form of blackmail. If he didn't obey the voices in the crown, one of his stars would be destroyed, but he still had the physical freedom to neglect it. He just couldnt do it because he loved his stars like his children. Also, we don't really know how lulu polymorphs u but it probably has some travel time. If Aurelion threw a sun at lulu the same time lulu threw a polymorph spell at him, my money would go on the sun destroying her... Then again, if we bring in-game feats she would have to get in range first, xerath would destroy her.... Then again, if we bring in common sense, I don't think Riot would make a purple rabbit thing with her fairy be able to turn the spirit of death {{champion:203}} into a flower and kill it.
: Which champion do you feel has the strongest potential for the most engaging/exciting story?
To be honest I want {{champion:31}} , I feel like once his updated bio comes out we're going to get a whole new glimpse of the void, I feel like the void aspect of the lore is a little outdated, can't wait to see Riot bring that purple hell to life.
Sharjo (EUW)
: The one that changed the lives of just about every Ionian champion in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JPO9oWT5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-16T06:26:17.435+0000) > > The one that changed the lives of just about every Ionian champion in the game. Ohh you mean THAT one.
Rioter Comments
Gapybo (EUW)
: You have to understand Talon is a much older champion than Jhin. This affects what riot can do to his model, his particles and animations. Jhin offers a lot more freedom with his modern rig. Maybe you are right about the price since he has no voice filter or anything but the skin itself is of high quality and so is the splash art. You have to understand riot hires different splash artist and not all can be made by a single one. They differ in their style and so does their work. I think BM Talon has one of the best splashes lately but it all comes down to subjectivity.
> [{quoted}](name=Gapybo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bUW3VkcR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-03T10:45:55.252+0000) > all comes down to **subjectivity**. Boom. Hit the nail on the head there. Basically you wrote paragraphs saying how talon isn't "Blood moony enough.", i disagree. For what Talon's kit has, i think it's worth the price tag.
Skorch (NA)
: Wait Cosmic Reaver was 2015... fuck
> [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZKyfAoqv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-02T16:11:09.420+0000) > > Wait Cosmic Reaver was 2015... fuck Trust me i had the same feeling it still felt brand new.
Rioter Comments
: most played champs are 1.Cait 2.Thresh 3.lee sin 32 Yasuo your post isn't about diversity ya just wanna qq about those 2 champs. GL
> [{quoted}](name=You USELESS,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u86WEsRg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-29T03:12:57.717+0000) > > most played champs are > > 1.Cait > 2.Thresh > 3.lee sin > > 32 Yasuo > > your post isn't about diversity > > ya just wanna qq about those 2 champs. > > GL Oh really? But when you play a game mode that he isn't actually banned. http://www.lolking.net/charts/champion-popularity?region=all&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=normal He sits at almost 200k more games then #2 most played champion.
StigtriX (EUW)
: I really like the Full Metal Vi concept by VegaColors: http://art-of-lol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Full-Metal-Vi.jpg I edited it and added some LEDs and altered some colours, added effects etc. He even responded and liked it: http://imgur.com/jgr98Dp GIF - effects: https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-05-2016/TPZOfP.gif The six LED dots = 6 = VI
> [{quoted}](name=StigtriX,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OlthctEy,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2017-01-28T15:34:43.318+0000) > > I really like the Full Metal Vi concept by VegaColors: > http://art-of-lol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Full-Metal-Vi.jpg > > I edited it and added some LEDs and altered some colours, added effects etc. He even responded and liked it: > http://imgur.com/jgr98Dp > > GIF - effects: > https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-05-2016/TPZOfP.gif > The six LED dots = 6 = VI Looks it would fit into the PROGRAM line more then full metal tbh.
: Nagakabouros
It's already been confirmed that Sol and Nagakabouros have met. > [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000c0001,timestamp=2017-01-20T02:44:28.285+0000) > > Not really tiny. Size isn't a factor in this. But Aurelion Sol definitely knows and has encountered Nagakabouros. Source: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/xZklstLO-is-there-anyone-as-strong-as-aurelion-sol-in-lore
Arakadia (NA)
: Blood Moon Jhin Teaser????
I think it's teasing 3 champions, dont they usually come out with 3 at a time? The top of that temple thing looks an eye, so Vel'Koz. The lantern probably resembles Jax, and the gun will be Jhinn. So it's probably Jax, Jhinn, and Vel'Koz coming out with blood moon skins.
: Is Cho'Gath a top entity in the Void, or a leader at all? I know Baron and likely Vilemaw are gigantic Void Creatures but neither seem to have the sentience of Cho.
> [{quoted}](name=Brutusness,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000000000002000000000001,timestamp=2017-01-20T03:19:10.522+0000) > > Is Cho'Gath a top entity in the Void, or a leader at all? I know Baron and likely Vilemaw are gigantic Void Creatures but neither seem to have the sentience of Cho. You have to wait for Cho's reworked lore. Right now it's outdated. I think Cho will be reworked as the leader of the void tbh.
: Wow. This may not be true but it was really interestingly thought out. Good job.
> [{quoted}](name=TyrekGoldenspear,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BKQyTgdh,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-01-19T17:51:41.969+0000) > > Wow. > > This may not be true but it was really interestingly thought out. > > Good job. Tbh I doubt it's Jinx too, seems a little weird, but we'll see.
: Ok. You got me. You've piqued my interest. My theory is that Jinx witnessed gansta Warwick murder her father (likely the bearded man mentioned later in his bio). This would have been the catalyst that made Warwick want to change his ways. But you're theory could also work and has me greatly intrigued.
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal791,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BKQyTgdh,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-19T17:46:53.998+0000) > > Ok. You got me. You've piqued my interest. My theory is that Jinx witnessed gansta Warwick murder her father (likely the bearded man mentioned later in his bio). This would have been the catalyst that made Warwick want to change his ways. But you're theory could also work and has me greatly intrigued. Wow, this is really good too. I feel like this is more appropriate for the lore. Maybe this is why Jinx resorted to criminal ways? Probably had to start stealing for money and that's how she ran into Piltover officials.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T16:01:20.642+0000) > > No, you're getting ascended and aspects confused. The aspects/targonians/Pantheon subdued the Star Forger, not the shurimans. The targonians are the ones that use this magic, and if you read Diana's story there was no sun disc involved with her gaining powers. Targonians are probably a very strong race with magical powers of their own, they are the only race in Runeterra that are able to travel universes. **Aspects** are diana, leona, pantheon, taric, etc. **Ascended** are Azir, Renekton, Xerath, Nasus. > > Yes, they do worship Aurelion Sol. Maybe not the ascended, but the shurimans sure do. The ascended do respect the sun disc as they had to EARN the ascension, and there's a community of elders who protect/study the disc. It's not just "some tool". Read the quote I just said. He passed by in the image of a comet and they etched drawings of him: > > No, it's not a "magical ritual that uses the sun disc", the ritual is the sun disc. It was literally shown in Azir's trailer how Ascended are made. Skip to 1:50 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYyuH1Bp2ZI&t=78s > > Shurima and Mt. Targon are separate places, you're combining both of the stories. Aurelion's color story is based on him flying over Azir's failed ascension. Also Xerath stands NO chance against Aurelion. At the height of xerath's power he destroyed Shurima, that's pretty strong. Sol creates universes and destroys planets. Xerath isnt on that level. Haha, you got me wrong. Sorry for misunderstanding. When I said ''which is a thing that subdued even the Star Forger'', I wanted to say magic is a universal power that even can subdue a super powerful being. Magic is so strong, it even surpass power of the sun. So they're transformed by a power tool, in other say, magic. You can be sure that I know the difference between Aspects and Ascended really well. Yes, Sun Disc is a tool. It is a tool that combines magic and cosmic energy. No one transforms to demigods just because of sunlight. It is clearly mentioned as a magical ritual. Xerath has never been at the height of his power, ever. It was power of the twisted ritual that destroyed Shurima, not Xerath. Xerath actually fought against Renekton and Nasus in his weakest level as Ascended anyway. No experience on his arcane magic, no experience on his new body, limited by sarcophagus.
> Xerath has never been at the height of his power, ever. It was power of the twisted ritual that destroyed Shurima, not Xerath. Xerath actually fought against Renekton and Nasus in his weakest level as Ascended anyway. No experience on his arcane magic, no experience on his new body, limited by sarcophagus. I understand ur point now, u can ignore what I wrote then. I agree Aurelion is susceptible to magic, but you have to remember that he had to be tricked into it, it's not like they were able to go toe-to-toe with him. Also, the people that use this magic are also able to create demigods to service them, Targonians arent some scrubs. Also, the magic doesn't really hold him back, it's the fact that it destroys his stars that aurelion views as children if he disobeys. So it's not like he's being physically restrained by their magic, it's like a magical blackmail, i suppose. That's exactly my point. How can Xerath's power exceed the power of the twisted ritual? His power comes from the twisted ritual. I call it the height of his power because the explosion was literally a release of all of the sun disc's power since it was depleted afterwards, and he gained all of that. I don't see how Xerath, even with his knowledge of magic, can become exceptionally more powerful then what created him. Sure, his knowledge of magic he might be able to become slightly stronger. Like you said, 2 ascended beings brought him down, weak or not, he was able to be taken down. Aurelion would never lose to 2 ascended even as a baby dragon. >Yes, Sun Disc is a tool. It is a tool that combines magic and cosmic energy. No one transforms to demigods just because of sunlight. It is clearly mentioned as a magical ritual. Yes, it's a tool, but u said they don't worship the tool and respect it, like it's a ordinary screwdriver or something. If it doesn't focus on sunlight then can u explain what happened to azir in the video lol.
: Warwick story
I think it goes even deeper, i think Warwick is Wyn, and a lot of his childhood was already revealed. Read my theory if u want :): http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/BKQyTgdh-clicks-theories-warwick-and-jinx-were-a-couple
Ralanr (NA)
: Potentially Xerath.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-01-19T16:13:23.914+0000) > > Potentially Xerath. - > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T16:01:20.642+0000) Also Xerath stands NO chance against Aurelion. At the height of xerath's power he destroyed Shurima, that's pretty strong. Sol creates universes and destroys planets. Xerath isnt on that level.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2017-01-19T04:38:01.560+0000) > > The ascended are made from a SUN DISC. Aurelion literally CREATES SUNS. The ascended are not even close to his level, read Aurelion's color story: > > (This is aurelion talking) > > They literally worship him. Ascended are not made by Sun Disc, they're made by a ritual that uses Sun Disc. They're transformed by magic, which is a thing that subdued even the Star Forger. Still, as you said, they're not even close to Aurelion Sol, except Xerath IMO. Not his bound form of course. If his Unbound form is weaker than Aurelion Sol, I still would say he would be close to his level. And no, Ascended do not worship Sun either, not even Azir. They more likely see it as a tool.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T11:36:16.178+0000) > > Ascended are not made by Sun Disc, they're made by a ritual that uses Sun Disc. They're transformed by magic, which is a thing that subdued even the Star Forger. No, you're getting ascended and aspects confused. The aspects/targonians/Pantheon subdued the Star Forger, not the shurimans. The targonians are the ones that use this magic, and if you read Diana's story there was no sun disc involved with her gaining powers. Targonians are probably a very strong race with magical powers of their own, they are the only race in Runeterra that are able to travel universes. **Aspects** are diana, leona, pantheon, taric, etc. **Ascended** are Azir, Renekton, Xerath, Nasus. Yes, they do worship Aurelion Sol. Maybe not the ascended, but the shurimans sure do. The ascended do respect the sun disc as they had to EARN the ascension, and there's a community of elders who protect/study the disc. It's not just "some tool". Read the quote I just said. He passed by in the image of a comet and they etched drawings of him: >"My passing will be etched in their uncouth pictograms upon common stone, an homage to the great comet, the blessing of the sky-god gracing their holy works and so forth." >"Their cruel masters see me, a streaking bolt of fire, as a portent of good omen, no doubt." No, it's not a "magical ritual that uses the sun disc", the ritual is the sun disc. It was literally shown in Azir's trailer how Ascended are made. Skip to 1:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYyuH1Bp2ZI&t=78s Shurima and Mt. Targon are separate places, you're combining both of the stories. Aurelion's color story is based on him flying over Azir's failed ascension. Also Xerath stands NO chance against Aurelion. At the height of xerath's power he destroyed Shurima, that's pretty strong. Sol creates universes and destroys planets. Xerath isnt on that level. > [{quoted}](name=Jellbug,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ftv5EUdw,comment-id=002e0000,timestamp=2016-05-05T21:10:05.736+0000) > > Good eye! Yes, Aurelion Sol indeed flew over Azir's failed Ascension.
: I'd say the ascendants are similar levels. Sure, the aspects are powerful but they just use human bodies. Ascendents get godlike fortitude and strength, and while they might not beat AS in terms of size, all sorts of things show us that just because you're not the size of the being bigger than the planet, you can still punch him to death. Bonus points if you get the reference.
> [{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xZklstLO,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-01-19T00:54:55.703+0000) > > I'd say the ascendants are similar levels. Sure, the aspects are powerful but they just use human bodies. Ascendents get godlike fortitude and strength, and while they might not beat AS in terms of size, all sorts of things show us that just because you're not the size of the being bigger than the planet, you can still punch him to death. Bonus points if you get the reference. The ascended are made from a SUN DISC. Aurelion literally CREATES SUNS. The ascended are not even close to his level, read Aurelion's color story: (This is aurelion talking) > In a vast stretch of desert, I feel the twinge of familiar magic emanating from the seat of the premiere civilization amongst these savages. Lo and behold, _**a massive Sun Disc is under construction**_. The poor enslaved laborers beat their heads and rend their clothes in my wake. Their cruel masters see me, a streaking bolt of fire, as a portent of good omen, no doubt. _**My passing will be etched in their uncouth pictograms upon common stone, an homage to the great comet, the blessing of the sky-god gracing their holy works and so forth. The Disc’s sole purpose is to funnel the sun’s majesty into the most “renowned” of these fleshy humanoids, transforming them into exactly what this planet needs: more insufferable demigods.**_ This effort will undoubtedly backfire. But I suppose they might last a brief while, perhaps a thousand years or so, before they fall and are supplanted by others. They literally worship him.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rVzVPnBl,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-01-18T16:46:21.052+0000) >she's just there for the final moments. SHE...
> [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rVzVPnBl,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-01-18T16:51:59.926+0000) > > SHE... You triggered?
Sharjo (EUW)
: Here's my thing. Nothing about Soraka's lore is contradicted because nothing in her lore indicates the man called Warwick is the champion Warwick. Just another dude called Warwick in the lore. An easy temporary band aid for the problem of "Yeah but it's obviously Warwick" is to rename the guy in her lore. Call him Steve or Bob and all of a sudden she's fine for the time being.
> [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q7hIpmFd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-17T23:49:01.319+0000) > > Here's my thing. > > Nothing about Soraka's lore is contradicted because nothing in her lore indicates the man called Warwick is the champion Warwick. > > Just another dude called Warwick in the lore. > > An easy temporary band aid for the problem of "Yeah but it's obviously Warwick" is to rename the guy in her lore. Call him Steve or Bob and all of a sudden she's fine for the time being. It would still make her bio much less impactful. I'd rather just wait around for the complete lore update instead of Billy, Steve, or Bob making an appearance out of nowhere. That way people know her bio is outdated, and a random character isn't created just to be overwritten later.
DWT12345 (NA)
: Who would you say are the 10 most powerful people in League of Legends?
Made a video about it(made before Jax bio update, he no longer makes my list): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-bHX-MEsSU 1. {{champion:136}} 2. {{champion:432}} 3. {{champion:101}} 4. {{champion:266}} (based on my theory that rage and violence make him stronger so if u fought him with rage and violence he'd become stronger) 5. {{champion:268}} 6. {{champion:31}} 7. {{champion:54}} 8. {{champion:75}} 9. {{champion:203}} /{{champion:161}} (explained in video) 10. {{champion:134}} Honorable Mentions: {{champion:26}} Cannot actually affect events that happen, just controls time. {{champion:58}} Has no powers besides being a physical beast, and people like cho'gath and malphite seem more physically imposing. While others use magic. {{champion:34}} Basically a god of ice, rest of list seems to tough for anivia though. For everyone putting Kindred #1, you have to remember Kindred cannot control WHEN you die, she's just there for the final moments.
Bultz (NA)
: Is there anyone as strong as Aurelion Sol in lore?
I don't get what people say about Kindred's "power". It depends on how you look at it, I put kindred in the same category as Zilean. Yes zilean can control time, but he doesn't affect the events that happen. Kindred is the spirit of death, embodiment of death, yes, but Kindred has no control on the timing of your death, she is only there to finish the job when it inevitably does happen. Now, if you think Kindred is a sentient being that actually hunts people down that are near-death, the story itself says there have been people who have managed to escape Kindred the first go around. This could mean that A.) They were just having a near-death experience, or B.) Kindred can be escaped temporarily by someone physically gifted enough and I think Aurelion has that power. Even so, Aurelion has said to be born since the beginning of time, and is still alive, he probably will die but think about how long he will live until Kindred has any influence on him. I don't think Kindred is "powerful", more like a natural phenomena. Kindred also has no control over people that are undead, Kindred couldnt really do anything to people of the shadow isles while Aurelion could blow up Runeterra easily. Targonians have made Aurelion fight other celestial beings so he might be one of the most powerful ones if he's unscathed by all of that. So currently, yes. Made a video on my channel top 10 powerful champions(made before Jax bio, Jax would no longer make my list): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-bHX-MEsSU
: Jinx should start a war between Zaun and Piltover?
Tbh it would be a little unfitting if Zaun and Piltover went into complete war with each other. Plitover and Zaun are like the same city, except one is the good district and one is the bad district. People move from Piltover to Zaun to do more illegal procedures, find illegal goods, etc but it's not like the connection between them was disestablished. If the connection was disestablished it'd be weird to have a storyline where people in the middle of a war (in two cities right above/below eachother) are still selling/buying hextech stuff from the other side, making negotiations, etc. It would just leave a lot of question marks on what certain champions would do like Zac, who would he see as "good"? They are both killing each other doing something "bad". Would he even take a side? Warwick would no longer be a vigilante killing off zaun scum, he would just turn into blood thirsty wolf. Removing that aspect of his character. Ekko actually wanted to take over Piltover, so he wouldnt favor it. > In his wildest dreams, Ekko imagines his hometown rising up to dwarf the City of Progress. Piltover's golden veneer would be overshadowed by the sheer ingenuity and relentless spunk of a Zaun born It would be a cool in-game lore event, but to make it an actual conflict in the story, i'd rather just have two cities with opposing ideas with little conflict in between, seems like a smoother approach.
: > [{quoted}](name=Crewx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bMael75b,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-17T01:12:12.780+0000) > > Warwick doesn't work to enforce any sort of rule or power, though, he just hunts down people he considers deplorable, like a vigilante of sorts. And in doing so he rids Zaunite society of scum, much like Jhin and Camille. Take Jhin as an example: he kills for his art, but in service of the Elders he only "performs" on those marked for death. In a city like Zaun, killing criminals is essentially enforcing the rule of law (or whatever resembles that in Zaun). We still don't know if he hunts all types of criminals or if he's pretty much a pawn of the Chem Barons that serves to keep the status quo. He enforces either the normality of his city or the interests or those in power, both of which make him a class comparable to the two previous enforcers we knew.
> [{quoted}](name=Nurgle Prophet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bMael75b,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T01:21:56.505+0000) > > And in doing so he rids Zaunite society of scum, much like Jhin and Camille. Take Jhin as an example: he kills for his art, but in service of the Elders he only "performs" on those marked for death. In a city like Zaun, killing criminals is essentially enforcing the rule of law (or whatever resembles that in Zaun). We still don't know if he hunts all types of criminals or if he's pretty much a pawn of the Chem Barons that serves to keep the status quo. He enforces either the normality of his city or the interests or those in power, both of which make him a class comparable to the two previous enforcers we knew. But what exactly is the "normality" for zaun? Zac literally does the same thing as WW. The city of Zaun is plagued with these thieves, we literally get to play as one(Twitch). So there are going to be a multitude of thieves, and a multitude of people who fight against them. I think using zaun is a bad example, IMO. As far as secretive enforcers go, I think Vayne takes the cake for Demacia. > "Demacia needed a protector, one who hunted those lost to the darkness."
Bultz (NA)
: @riot, who wins a fight lore wise
{{champion:266}} Aatrox already beat tryndamere's ass without trying in the lore {{champion:19}} Warwick seems to show superhuman feats in that last trailer shown. Breaking through hard cast iron like it's paper and jumping hundreds of feet in the air like it's nothing. Although yasuo could expose the pipes on his back and strike those since they are incredibly painful for WW. Close call but gotta go with the wolf {{champion:62}} Trained under yi's wuju style and yi showed him techniques/mentored him. If yi's wuju abilities from his old lore are still true (the new lore he got doesnt conflict with it), then wuju has the power to make u go at lightning speed, literally disappear, and resist magical attacks. Wukong is trained by the guy who could do all of this, and he has the power of a rune and enchanted staff. Xin Zhao is just a gifted fighter, nothing magical, although he supposedly could fight 300 people before dying but idk. Xin Zhao better fighter but wukong seems stronger. {{champion:222}} Caitlyn has a good shot but Jinx doesn't need to be near her or visible to send off an explosion. Vi couldn't even catch up to her, and caitlyn seems too patient to be able to beat someone as wild as Jinx. {{champion:427}} Better control over his magic. Maokai just seems to throw his arms everywhere in the lore, dont know if he can actually throw magical fireballs or anything. Maokai has only been fighting spirits, and he got overwhelmed by them at one point and had to run. {{champion:223}} By far. Demon vs Ghoul with a hook. Although tahm doesnt fight he just makes deals. So if thresh made a deal there's no way he can avoid tahm, nobody ever has.
: >Gotham city is populated mostly of regular citizens that are weak. Eugh? Why specify Gotham City/ DC comics as a specific example? Don't all fictional cities contain majority of regular citizens (unless stated as otherwise)? All you did was imply that DC is different to most major IP and then used it as an example of what League's universe is not like. Which is wrong because League is no different to any other fictional universe; DC or otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m4YBdEIn,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-22T01:50:54.624+0000) > > Eugh? > Why specify Gotham City/ DC comics as a specific example? Don't all fictional cities contain majority of regular citizens (unless stated as otherwise)? > > All you did was imply that DC is different to most major IP and then used it as an example of what League's universe is not like. Which is wrong because League is no different to any other fictional universe; DC or otherwise. You're right, you are making my point where i am saying that League is NOT just majority regular citizens. I specified because he said "superhuman" and batman came to my mind lol it's not that complicated. I guess you didn't read what I said, the regular citizens in Gotham literally have no powers it's a crime-riddled city with a handful of powerful criminals/heroes that are "superhuman". Read Ryze's lore(attacked by a powerful wizard), read Yasuo's lore(ambushed by powerful noxian soldiers), read Camilles lore(a bunch of modified combatants). He says "superhuman" as if it's out of the ordinary to perform superhuman feats in this universe while in Gotham city those "regular citizens" do not perform these superhuman feats. There's a difference of power between Gotham's "regular citizens" and Runeterra's "regular citizens", that's what im saying. I'm not disputing the fact that they both contain "majority of regular citizens".
: I wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet? Hmm. Yup, feels about right.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaredan,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Eup0Jijd,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-20T00:28:20.390+0000) > > I wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet? > > Hmm. > > Yup, feels about right. Nah we could use more.
: > [{quoted}](name=YouCantClickThis,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m4YBdEIn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-20T08:18:11.005+0000) > > Well once you break the thought that everyone is just a normal "human" in **_Runeterra_** is when things might start making sense. There's magicians, wind warriors, yordles, and there's giant talking blobs. Not really sure where this notion that this is a DC type universe where majority of people are just ordinary weak humans. It would be more helpful if you could write down some examples of what you're talking about. > > Really, how many "superhumans" wtih no magic are you talking about? I can only see the handful of ones in Noxus. Sure, I was mainly referring to the physical based champions are able to perform such superhuman feets with little no magic and in a world full of it. {{champion:122}} is someone that can leap at 20 feet into the sky to dunk someone, {{champion:119}} has similar kind of strength but also have superhuman sight as he was able to execute his prisoners that nearly escaped everyone else's own sight. {{champion:92}} doesn't even know magic and yet her sword can reform if she needs it, {{champion:91}} can become invisible without the aid of magic, {{champion:59}} can create a crater with brute strength, {{champion:157}} can create whirlwinds with aid of magic. {{champion:254}} can lift her gauntlets for a long time and that is clear not something a woman of her build could do for even a split second in real life. I am getting the impression that some people are similar to syndra and Annie in that they are born with the potential to do superhuman feets and that training can further it. And maybe also that people in Runeterra have a much greater limit on how much stronger they can become compared to people irl, being able to deadlift 2 tons or more instead of 350-425 kg that strongman can do and that is lowballing it. however someone like Jhin is a able to craft bullets that are made from hextech and hextech is fueled by magic not electricity or other forms of real life fuel, as well as Lucian's light shots being primarily made of physical power. so I wonder if their is another source of power that is not solid, but is still grounded enough to be physical. in other words, apart from what is explicitly magical in nature or if they receive special training, their is not a proper explanation as so why people are able to pull off superhuman feets without magic and why something that should magically fuel is not.
> [{quoted}](name=DragonShea,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m4YBdEIn,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-12-20T15:34:16.919+0000) > > Sure, I was mainly referring to the physical based champions are able to perform such superhuman feets with little no magic and in a world full of it. > > {{champion:122}} is someone that can leap at 20 feet into the sky to dunk someone, > > {{champion:119}} has similar kind of strength but also have superhuman sight as he was able to execute his prisoners that nearly escaped everyone else's own sight. > > {{champion:92}} doesn't even know magic and yet her sword can reform if she needs it, > > {{champion:91}} can become invisible without the aid of magic, > > {{champion:59}} can create a crater with brute strength, > > {{champion:157}} can create whirlwinds with aid of magic. > > {{champion:254}} can lift her gauntlets for a long time and that is clear not something a woman of her build could do for even a split second in real life. > None of those abilities that are showcased in games are feats they performed in the bio. Not really sure you can conclude that just because you see it in game, they have the same power in the story. You have to remember that these abilities they have are often exaggerated from their story in order to have the champions compete in gameplay. Bruce Lee was iconic because he showed feats that were near impossible but given the intense training he was able to do them. Basically it's the same in this fantasy universe where this intense training gives u strength, but at a much higher level then lets say bruce lee.
: In a post where you're asking for the OP to explain himself can I ask you do the same over this statement? >this notion that this is a **DC type universe** where majority of people are **just ordinary weak humans**.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m4YBdEIn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-12-20T09:33:49.798+0000) > > In a post where you're asking for the OP to explain himself can I ask you do the same over this statement? I was thinking of batman when i said DC. Gotham city is populated mostly of regular citizens that are weak, while there are only a handful of "superhumans". Runeterra is not just full of regular citizens, there's a lot of strong races that populate runeterra, wizards, targonians, hextech combatants etc etc that populate the world of runeterra. The OP makes it seem like being superhuman is out of the ordinary for Runeterra's standards, but i disagree to say that Runeterra has set the standard that it is a very diverse universe with superhuman fighters that arent even champions.
MrNhbdy (NA)
: Aurelion sol lore question!
I made a video on my channel that i might or might not bring back to life about this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1enEDf-s7E I think it's going to be revealed as Cho'Gath once his bio gets updated since his old bio is retconned.
: So about those champions that lack magic but can do superhuman feats anyway.
Well once you break the thought that everyone is just a normal "human" in **_Runeterra_** is when things might start making sense. There's magicians, wind warriors, yordles, and there's giant talking blobs. Not really sure where this notion that this is a DC type universe where majority of people are just ordinary weak humans. It would be more helpful if you could write down some examples of what you're talking about. Really, how many "superhumans" wtih no magic are you talking about? I can only see the handful of ones in Noxus.
: @Sharjo who's the most powerful in terms of lore?
Well you are having a hard time separating the 3 because really it's impossible to say one could overpower the other, they all have powers that are essential to maintaining life on runeterra. That's like me asking you, what's more important for survival? Earth itself, air, or hunger/food? Sure, you could pick one, but really it's left incomplete if u say that. I would say Aurelion is technically the most "powerful" since his power is more destructive and has a conscious over his power. So basically Aurelion because he has more freedom to exert his powers because he's not bound by some sort of rule like Kindred and Bard. Side note: starting to think bard might be inferior to aurelion since bard never interfered with aurelion blowing up planets, even when the targonians abused his powers, yet Bard stopped an old man from abusing a magical rune. Doesn't make sense that he would find it more important to steal a rock from an old man than stopping an empire from blowing up planets with a dragon. But there are only 2 champions in league that have powers on a universal scale, Sol and Bard, so clearly it speaks magnitudes of their power.
: So she willingly cut off and replaced her legs for work?
Seems logical to me. She's good with her legs so hey, why not make them giant knives instead?
Skelenth (EUW)
: Zaun's air must be really, reaaaaalllyyy filthy
I think Camille's farts are just that deadly. The only way to combat her is having an augmented nose plug. Ultimate ability revealed?
: Can we consider Amumu at one of the most powerfull beings in Runeterra?
Made a post 2 months ago about the most powerful champs in league: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/hOuKhtdm-top-10-most-powerful-champions-in-league-lore-what-are-yours
Darnath (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fnjJEIUE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-11T21:56:47.402+0000) > > Since the curse can kill anyone/anything near him, im pretty sure that he may be even more powerfull than Syndra or even Xerath (technically)... Heck, not even death itself want to be near him. > > Now the question is if the Curse can affect undeads as well... I guess that it can. If the illness that affected Nasus was Amumu's curse, it means his curse is not invincible and something like Ascension can cure it. Riot said Ascended may be immune to curse of Amumu. Even they're not, I dont think Xerath would be affected since he is pure arcane energy, which means he has nothing to decay. Also, while I give so little chance to Amumu's curse about being more powerful than Xerath, let's say it is. He is still not technically more powerful. It is curse, not Amumu. Xerath is also much more destructive. He/It is more powerful than Syndra though.
> [{quoted}](name=Darnath,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fnjJEIUE,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-11-12T08:59:49.489+0000) > He/It is more powerful than Syndra though. No. Syndra wouldn't even need to be near him to throw a castle at his ass. Don't even go there.
: Sorry OP, I don't want any 1st time Azirs in my ranked games. Blind pick is the one that needs to go.
> [{quoted}](name=XelNiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yp2PeAU9,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-11-11T00:39:41.381+0000) > > Sorry OP, I don't want any 1st time Azirs in my ranked games. Blind pick is the one that needs to go. There wouldn't be any first time azirs in your ranked games. They would be playing in blind or 3v3.
: You guys are soft, or too needy. Normal Draft should be removed.
I'm going to re-iterate my point here. When dominion was out, i bet people that played Dominion religiously looked at other game modes just like how you guys look at blind. Dominion people probably said, "We dont want to play ranked or normal, we want to play Dominion." yet, they had their playlist removed anyway. Sure, we feel bad for the people that played dominion and enjoyed that game mode, but League cut it out the game. Now Normal Draft was(is?) on the chopping block, and it would be the same situation for you guys. I'm not saying get rid of it just to get rid of it, but just like Dominion, if a low play rate calls for it, delete it. Why should you delete it? That's what these 3 pages are discussing.
: I didn't say anything about "trolls". Is this no longer a thread about Normal Draft?
> [{quoted}](name=I mute all of U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yp2PeAU9,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-11T03:13:32.171+0000) > > I didn't say anything about "trolls". Is this no longer a thread about Normal Draft? I'll try to explain then. I thought the environment was a big reason as to why normal was better then blind, and why "blind should be removed instead." All these cancerous role dodgers, etc etc are in blind when in ranked you ran into 9 afkers and things of the nature that purposely lost you the game. Something you and the rest of the people replying to this thread only associated with blind mode, but even in ranked, a game mode focused about winning, still included a heavy amount of toxic players. My point being, even if normal was removed, these toxic players have already existed in all game modes beforehand, it's not like blind is the only game mode with these toxic players. So yes, it still was on topic.
: Removing normal draft is the worst thing you can do for me. I only play ranked for season rewards and then I am done. I have dropped 2 divisions before for having 9 afk's in a row and 11 out of 12 games where someone on my team either did not connect or rage quit. Once I hit gold, I stop playing in case this happens to me again. If I don't have normal draft, I just simply play league less often overall. If a lot of other players share my same mentality, this will actually hurt Ranked Queue (As well as every other queue) more than it helps it. I am struggling to maintain interest in this game because I have played it for a good while now. Taking away the only queue I play will be nearly every nail in the coffin.
> [{quoted}](name=I mute all of U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yp2PeAU9,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-11-11T00:57:05.080+0000) > > Removing normal draft is the worst thing you can do for me. I only play ranked for season rewards and then I am done. **I have dropped 2 divisions before for having 9 afk's in a row and 11 out of 12 games where someone on my team either did not connect or rage quit**. Once I hit gold, I stop playing in case this happens to me again. > > If I don't have normal draft, I just simply play league less often overall. If a lot of other players share my same mentality, this will actually hurt Ranked Queue (As well as every other queue) more than it helps it. > > I am struggling to maintain interest in this game because I have played it for a good while now. Taking away the only queue I play will be nearly every nail in the coffin. You make my point that trolls exist everywhere. Even in ranked or in normal.
: He already brought MMR for no reason lol its just so weird that he reads everyone saying the same thing about their experiences with Blind Pick but he ignores it...
> [{quoted}](name=Stephenizgod,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yp2PeAU9,comment-id=00050000000000010000,timestamp=2016-11-11T01:26:44.392+0000) > > He already brought MMR for no reason lol its just so weird that he reads everyone saying the same thing about their experiences with Blind Pick but he ignores it... I said, or maybe you're just **unlucky** because just like you assume every blind pick game is cancerous, i have plenty of friends you can add in game to tell you the exact opposite.
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