Zed genius (EUNE)
: If your mid locks ad, you either pick ap jungler/top or accept the full ad comp. You can't force someone to play a specific type of champion because you don't want to play ap top maybe they don't want to play ap mid? Just saying
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0NK9G8zA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-24T13:20:53.239+0000) > > If your mid locks ad, you either pick ap jungler/top or accept the full ad comp. You can't force someone to play a specific type of champion because you don't want to play ap top maybe they don't want to play ap mid? Just saying yesh the hate on this. I mean, so long as it's not ranked, it's not THAT bad. Just so long as no one demands AP top or bot.
: “Sorry I’m banning your declared champion, but...”
I’d call this toxic if I wasn’t laughing so hard. Feel bad for the three guys caught in the middle, hope they fit a laugh at least.
: What exactly is a unit of range for this game?
This should help https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0XM3Bilz-how-to-gauge-range So you know how a 100 centimeters are 1 meter? A hundred units is one Teemo (width of his character model). I kid you not, that is an official measuring unit for league.
Saianna (EUNE)
: If you want Teemo be able to jungle, just make that his poison from E stacks up to 2/3x (dunno about numbers, just general guess) on jungle camps instead of refreshing on each hit. Or make it deal bonus dmg to jungle creeps. I am horrified of even thinking Riot deciding to rework teemo. Almost all of their reworks were bad either balance-wise, lore-wise or in design. And the very few that somehow survived the rework are either nerfed or play like totally different champions so you only wonder "why the fuck did they even bother with reworking if they made them anew without leaving their soul intact". Btw, think of his importance as a jungler. Although he could be pretty solid ganker, he lacks CC, except R.. Or your E.. and even then the CC is more against chasers than the prey. Unless you wanna risk shrooming enemy jungle and hope the guy that runs away from you will decide to go around through the bush in the jungle. I just don't see it happening.
> [{quoted}](name=Saianna,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-04-21T15:14:32.452+0000) > > If you want Teemo be able to jungle, just make that his poison from E stacks up to 2/3x (dunno about numbers, just general guess) on jungle camps instead of refreshing on each hit. Or make it deal bonus dmg to jungle creeps. > > I am horrified of even thinking Riot deciding to rework teemo. Almost all of their reworks were bad either balance-wise, lore-wise or in design. And the very few that somehow survived the rework are either nerfed or play like totally different champions so you only wonder "why the fuck did they even bother with reworking if they made them anew without leaving their soul intact". > > Btw, think of his importance as a jungler. Although he could be pretty solid ganker, he lacks CC, except R.. Or your E.. and even then the CC is more against chasers than the prey. Unless you wanna risk shrooming enemy jungle and hope the guy that runs away from you will decide to go around through the bush in the jungle. I just don't see it happening. That would work, but riot spoke about using “bonus damage to monsters” abilities and how they try to avoid them. This seemed like a more oportunistic way to get around that. As for his lack of cc, your right on with that one. I don’t have a good answer unless he goes Glacial Augment Or gets a miracle shroom thrown perfectly to slow them. He could get a slow on q, but that seems like a balancing nightmare for top lane so I avoided it. I don’t have a good answer, not unless shrooms don’t need arming time, which could also become really broken fast. I have ideas about It, but none that actually work. I figure preemptive shroom placement that could be used to bounce another one could work, but not reliably enough for a jungler. I would want to test to see if the mushrooms could work as enough cc, just for the experiment. Eh, I don’t know if these changes would count as a rework. The lux changes being experimented are closer. And I worked hard to preserve the soul of Teemo with this change. I really believe this would work great.
Saianna (EUNE)
: If you swap E and R, which means shrooms WILL HAVE TO BE HARDGATED by either nerfing the damage in half or it's duration to mere seconds, so............ #No. Also considering how Riot wants to nerf every mage in existence, this rework could give them an argument for nerfing. I prefer if they are lazy, won't touch him and let him be super niche and pretty useless, than just freshly made garbage with huge playrate in first week then dropping like a stone to less than a mere percentile.
> [{quoted}](name=Saianna,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-04-20T23:05:33.651+0000) > > If you swap E and R, which means shrooms WILL HAVE TO BE HARDGATED by either nerfing the damage in half or it's duration to mere seconds, so............ > > #No. > > Also considering how Riot wants to nerf every mage in existence, this rework could give them an argument for nerfing. I prefer if they are lazy, won't touch him and let him be super niche and pretty useless, than just freshly made garbage with huge playrate in first week then dropping like a stone to less than a mere percentile. Finally someone who disagrees with me! I’ve been waiting for you this entire time! I think the fact each mushroom costs 75 Damage and they are only about half effective, if that, before 6 with this idea, they could be balanced. Their lack of damage means that they don’t hurt champs that much, mostly used to soften waves to last hit or set up two and kite a jungle camp into them. I mean they’ll hurt, but imagine Jhins traps early in the game, BEFORE he gets a million AD. That’s what these are until lv 6 unlocks the rest of their damage. So I don’t think they’d have to nerf the mushrooms after 6. I mean, yes, pre 6 mushroom damage would be halved, but then bounce up to normal. Also, thank you so much for disagreeing. I’ve literally wanted people to poke holes in this just so I can think about them and try to remedy them.
: > [{quoted}](name=ZaneShadow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-20T00:00:37.332+0000) > > Wow, surprised no one has started screaming Teemo hate or posted “worship Satan Teemo” yet. Very impressed by the boards on that one. Yuck! {{champion:17}} ~~please dont kill me~~
> [{quoted}](name=º Kindred º,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-20T21:14:55.989+0000) > > Yuck! {{champion:17}} > ~~please dont kill me~~ Lol.
: Sorry, I was editing my original post when you replied :-(
> [{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T14:27:49.951+0000) > > Sorry, I was editing my original post when you replied :-( Haha I’ve had that happen to me before. From a ganking perspective I can totally see Glacial augment being huge. I was thinking maybe Rylize with predator to fly in at Mach 5 with his own speed boost and get a slow off with Q, but that might be a better version of that.
: Thing is I always imagined him to be a jungler based on what he is, a scout. Last time I checked scouts, they hang around in the jungle lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-04-20T14:04:20.879+0000) > > Thing is I always imagined him to be a jungler based on what he is, a scout. Last time I checked, they hang around in the jungle lol. I know right? It’s one of those things his lore really hints at.
: Teemo can jungle already. He just has a weak early game, and needs a fatass leash. But he can jungle, and he can jungle well. If you take cinderhulk enchant, his clear speed becomes phenomenal, as well as his survivability, so you're not wasting shrooms on clearing jungle camps. {{item:1401}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3020}}{{item:3078}} {{item:3135}}/Dealers Choice Inspiration: Glacial ->Hextech Flash/Biscuits -> FM/Boots -> Approach Velocity/Celestial body Sorcery: Ultimate Hat-> Transcendance Try this build and you'll thank me. I prefer future market over boots, lets me get those items faster. Hextech flash is great for surprise ganks when someone steps on a shroom over a wall. Remember to alternate your autos on different monsters and the DoT from your E and cinderhulk will wittle them down in no time. Glacial augment is great for ganks and will guarantee a flash, as well as increase the DoT damage from Liandry's. Cinderhulk also stacks the HP from Liandry's and Triforce, giving you more HP. Void staff isn't necessary, but the damage from your shrooms will be guaranteed one shots on squishys.
> [{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-04-20T14:14:25.479+0000) > > Teemo can jungle already. He just has a weak early game, and needs a fatass leash. But he can jungle, and he can jungle well. If you take cinderhulk enchant, his clear speed becomes phenomenal, as well as his survivability, so you're not wasting shrooms on clearing jungle camps. > > {{item:1401}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3078}} > > Inspiration: Glacial ->Hextech Flash/Biscuits -> FM/Boots -> Approach Velocity > Sorcery: Ultimate Hat-> Transcendance > > Try this build and you'll thank me Thanks, I’ll have to give this a try. Cinderhulk huh? Never would have thought of that. Neat Ya I know he CAN jungle, but what this proposal is about is making him on par with other junglers. Something good about these changes are they actually help fix some of the range harass issues he has in top lane vs melee. Still there just not quite as oppressive.
: Ziggs or Xerath?
Xerath is the better poke king, while Ziggs is much better at keeping the damage coming. It’s why Ziggs was tried as a bot lamer for a while. Still can just not very popular.
: I love the idea of Teemo as a jungler, great idea. I've always thought, if he didn't really fit in anywhere, and is a problem in top lane, where's the best place for him while maintaining his niche?? Jungle just makes sense; Teemo has stealth, Teemo creates traps and controls the map. Teemo moves quickly out of fights. He had the qualities of a control jungler; just without the tuning to do it effectively. I think your ideas would accomplish it!
> [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-20T05:25:24.030+0000) > > I love the idea of Teemo as a jungler, great idea. > > I've always thought, if he didn't really fit in anywhere, and is a problem in top lane, where's the best place for him while maintaining his niche?? > > Jungle just makes sense; Teemo has stealth, Teemo creates traps and controls the map. Teemo moves quickly out of fights. > > Great ideas put out here. Thank you. I’ve been trying to make a workable version of this for a while but kept losing the Teemo vibe. This was the first one I came up with where it just felt right and had answers to a lot of his issues. I mean he’s still gonna be Teemo in the top lane. Poke you with Aery and run away. Blind you right before you can get the beat down on that smug little face. After 6 he’s almost the exact same, which is still in time for laning and trying to harass for an advantage. But he also has the tools to operate in the jungle.
: Ive tried clearing with teemo vs jungle and imma say that to do this pre-6 most of his damage needs to be upfront.
> [{quoted}](name=Mokuto Bunshi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-20T04:56:59.760+0000) > > Ive tried clearing with teemo vs jungle and imma say that to do this pre-6 most of his damage needs to be upfront. Hmm... okay. Do you think the mushrooms help do that? Having them available to try and burst the large monster first while kiting? Before 6 his mushrooms are small bombs basically, not very strong but if you place down two and kite the camp into them, fairly useful. That’s my working theory at least. Does it sound plausible to you?
Shárpie (NA)
: Petition to Allow Players to Change Runes in Practice Tool
I’d love for practice tools to let me reset towers life or rebuild them. I’ve been experimenting with how fast you can take them at different times in the game.
: Teemo as a Jungler
Wow, surprised no one has started screaming Teemo hate or posted “worship Satan Teemo” yet. Very impressed by the boards on that one.
: Soon enough Fortnite will see a decline, here's why
Eh, I don't think it will "fall" but probably reduce in how over the top popular it is. Most streamers that made the jump did so because league streaming is highly competitive while a new game like fortnight is less so. The game always includes new things so that youtubers and them can create new and interesting content meaning the viewer always has a new stimulus to the game. Playing it is easy and unlike League that has so many people who are way too competitive, there's no reason to be in Fortnight. Just sit back and relax each game. That feeling of just playing for enjoyment is what games are all about: being GAMES. But you are right, Fortnight did have the initial huge influx of players. A lot are going to fall off. But many more will stick to the game and provide a large market for streamers who decide to stick around even when things become more competitive for views. I do believe some will return to their original games, whether it be Overwatch, League, or maybe even PUBG once things become competitive in the Fortnight buisness. When money is just as hard to come by there as it is in other places, some of the charm will likely fall off and they could split their time between games. That is honestly a healthier buisness model for a streamer since an individual games flux and fall and growth doesn't hurt their income as much. So in other words, Money. Once money becomes harder to make for streamers, you'll see more shift to what will likely be their true resting place when it comes to their streaming scheduel. As a result, player base will likely shift with them.
Besteau (NA)
: Champions as Pokemon
woa, all of these are so cool! Good job
: It's Been One Year Since Xayah & Rakan Were Released
I just rember struggling with the concept: he's someone who runs to the front lines... but isn't tanky. But then i had this just amazing moment where I hit a perfect three man nock up with a 5 man charm. So beautiful. then when a 2v2 turned into a 2v5, the simple ability for Rakan to get out of bad situations is so much fun.
: Since Riot is ramping up the VGUs even more...
my list (outside of the current ones on scheduel) {{champion:82}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:72}}{{champion:32}} These are champs that whenever I see, their abilities and themes are either Ryze levels of problematic, or don't synergize well together.
: Some good AP item changes on PBE
hahaha ya, especially with Tabi nerf. This doesn't flip it back the wrong way, but makes it a little easier to have some hope at least.
: I really like this.
> [{quoted}](name=ZackTheWaffleMan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KNfOqrK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-19T21:42:02.320+0000) > > I really like this. Thank you, I have beaten my head against this wall a lot, and failed, a lot. This was the first idea I came up with that i felt was actually good at preserving teemo as Teemo, but shaking things up a little bit to let him do better in more roles.
Rioter Comments
: Clash NA beta - What’s changing? Your feedback in action!
Wow, cool. Thanks for the update. Excited to try it out when it’s fully released
Yuvn Ti (NA)
: Unpopular Opinion
Sweet, another reasonable person.
SkyeMoon (NA)
: Annie/Tibbers idea
Haha I like the idea, but I’d rather see her E simply last longer with more ranks, even if it has to start with a lower duration. That way tank Tibbers could actually be a thing, without changing her itemization.
: Previously punished games weren't taken into account. I can see you're rational, so I will be disengaging from this conversation.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HjW3En1A,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-13T20:19:49.638+0000) > > Previously punished games weren't taken into account. I can see you're rational, so I will be disengaging from this conversation. Are bans from boards appropriate? Or a thing. They should be a thing. Thank you for putting up with us. The boards seem to flux with how negative/positive it is and his seems to be a low point. I know a lot of rioters just stop coming into the boards because of posts like this and I want to say thank you for a lot of what you do. Please have a good day!
: The Mischievous Adventures part 264
Nice. I now feel an urge to read a bunch of these.
Coco Ari (EUW)
: My Xayah fan art!
Awesome!!! I can’t draw so I love stuff like this!!!
: The new Karma bio
Sweet!!! So excited!!! I did find it a bit strange and hard to relate to her or see her in League as a playable character. So I think I understand she views using magic to defend and drive away as exceptable, but the killing and aggressor uses of magic are what hurt her connection to the past lives. Though that is all speculation that I tried to come up with to flesh her out in my head cannon. What I’m trying to say, is I hope we see how karma DOES whield her magic and still appease the past lives voice thingys. We only know how she DOESN’T or is now against which is important, but misses half the character. I’m excited to see what you do!!! Thank you for the heads up. As for a good patch to release on, Akali isn’t that far off in terms of the long view. It still wouldn’t be great to wait that long, but setting that as a maximum time limit seems fair.
: > [{quoted}](name=ZaneShadow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=foAyY73z,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-10T07:55:40.341+0000) > > Look at your name and what people are posting about and you’ll have you answer. I mean I made a post earlier today and It got like 500 views and 0 comments. And it wasn't exactly the same kind of post as what you're suggesting. I think they might have tinkered around with the boards a bit. The vote-thing is broken again on IE, in the threads list. But 2nd chance also has a good hypothesis.
> [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=foAyY73z,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-04-10T08:51:47.524+0000) > > I mean I made a post earlier today and It got like 500 views and 0 comments. > And it wasn't exactly the same kind of post as what you're suggesting. > > I think they might have tinkered around with the boards a bit. The vote-thing is broken again on IE, in the threads list. > But 2nd chance also has a good hypothesis. Huh, that’s neat. I wonder what specifically is going on then? Like under the hood kinda stuff. My apologies, I wasnt talking about any post you made. I was more referring to the 3 dozen posts about Kai’Sa neck line or eve fan art and the reasom a lot of people have become social warriors for keeping it the same/more champs like that. I think probably 1/2 of them are less about the neckline and more about... well, you get it. I was trying to make a clever pun and it has fallen flat.
: why were the view counts in GD so high tonight?
Look at your name and what people are posting about and you’ll have you answer.
KlRlUS (NA)
: One of those... How is this not S+?!
Dang. A number of really small factors star poping up in these situations. You need nearly perfect farm, meaning long games really hurt S+ chances since your unable to sit in your lane and farm. Kill participation also becomes an issue. You’d need at least 80% if not more. You basically have to have spent an entire items worth of gold on control wards to make sure you’ve got a high enough vision score. I joked around with my brother he could just buy control wards and place them on spawn to rapid fire grow his Vision scare. (Btw, not sure if this actually works or not). Not sure this was the deciding factor, that 1 death. Having 0 deaths and a high KDA and KP is HUGE when earning S+. It means you made big plays and executed so perfectly you never died. I know the system loves 0 deaths as one of the largest extra boosts towards something like that.
Glory97 (EUW)
: Yasuo with conqueror in the midlane?! wtf is that dmg
I don’t know about you, but I always threw Tibbers at my problems and they mostly went away. Also, Yasuo has a terrible early game, beat that punk down so he doesn’t stand back up, because after 2 items he’s terrifying
CLG ear (NA)
: who was the better avatar? [POLL]
Is this a contest? The series aang was in was better written and had a lot of heart in it. Kora was literally produced for dollar signs. I don’t know, I think of the wright brothers in this situation. There were other inventors being paid the equivalent of millions of dollars to discover how to fly. Two guys in a bike shop who had a deep love and conviction beat them. Because it wasn’t about the money for them. It was the love for flying. The other inventors didn’t even try to improve what the wright brothers did or have any connection to flying afterwards. They just walked away onto whatever else was paying well. Sorry about that ramble. I was really frustrated with some latter parts of Koras story that didn’t have the same effort as Aangs story did.
: Is it required that Viktor's Hex Core take up an item slot?
So I’ve only played a handful of games as victor but I do watch a lot of pros and listen to the analysts. The item slot is designed to limit Victor. He has one of the scarier Late games in League once his core is finished and his Archangels finishes stacking. After that, he gets lich Bane and proceeds to murder everyone in the game. Those three items transform Victor into an unstoppable monster. He picks up a Rylize and probably finishes up with Liandries to make it almost impossible to not have him run you down. It’s one of the slowest build ups and if you get behind it’s better to simply drop Archangels and go for lich Bane immediately. But all of this is based on one balancing tool: his Hextech core. It keeps him from spiraling out of control early and giving the enemy time to punish his abysmal early game. That’s at least what I have learned about victor so far. Thanks for letting me ramble.
Ventura (NA)
: So what kind of support do people find healthy?
So as a support main, here’s my two cents. Almost every support is fine, with strong counterpicks. Some have really anoying abilities like Janna’s Mega shield and Ult. But pick Leona into her and watch the adc cry. Sorraka? Zyra with a rushed Morelos. Tahm Kench? Why do you think Brand support is a thing? There’s kind of s triangle of support meta. Tanks<poke Poke<sustain Sustain<Tank Tank supports like Taric, Leona, Alistar, and others have hard engagements that nothing can sustain through pre 6, and after that their Ult CD are usually lower. Poke champions murder tanks as they have to walk into range of both the ADC and them to get any gold. However, they usually can’t poke hard enough that a sorraka or Nami can’t just heal it back up. Obviously this is only a vague guideline with lots of exceptions like Sorraka opting into the poke item vs tanks or whatever the crap Rakan is as some weird front line enchanter who wants to be a tank but isn’t. But if you went in knowing nothing, this would help you figure out what to pick and if you should play conservatively or aggressively if you picked first.
: Random thought about the next two reworks
Eh, could work. Though I’ve heard he’s going to be a mix of Riven and Juggernauts. So if the Riven half is true, than probably not. I’m saving my BE to see if I want to play him whenever he does come out.
: When QSS item for mages?
I think we just get Zhonyas. Which is fair but... {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: I finally said fuck it and made my 15 gallon a red cherry shrimp tank.
Huh, sounds fun. If you find the population getting out of control, stick in a low level predator. One of my friends had a huge tank that had had lots of fish in it, and that’s what he did to manage his fish
: Are Melee AP Assassins Bad?
Well, Malz isn’t an assassin, he’s a single target burst Mage. While that sounds like an assassin, he’s missing the Mobility and instead gets more straightforward damage. Ahri and Ekko are great examples of AP assassins. Their viability is extremely volatile, and I don’t know how good their doing since the starting item they want, GLP cannon, is really struggling. I think overall they are only slightly beneath meta. Their extremely difficult champions and when the player is experienced, their terrifying. As a result until you gain the skills to climb to high silver, your probably still working on the mechanics to handle them. Starting with them is a bad idea since it’s hard to use mechanics you don’t have. sounds obvious, but it’s not that easy to tell for a lot of people.
: SUGGESTION PROFILE CUSTOMIZATION - ADD A CUSTOMIZED PIC OF YOUR FAVORITE CHAMPION + SKIN + POSE
Eh, this would be cool, but that is part of what riot preserves as a source of income with Legendary skins. It’d be nice to have the easy champion pick for my profile, but I get enough stuff free, they got to make money some how. P.S. why the heck is this downvoted?!? It’s an idea, not some horrible concept!!!
: > Why does a person who only cares about survival think “let’s show off my breast, it’ll make people (Void monsters?) attracted to me”. There’s no logic to that when you grow up alone and only thing you process is exposed=dead. She’d rarely remove her helmet, much less anything else. You literally assumed that argument. Like I said above, she has no social skills and, therefore, couldn't conceive the idea of attraction. What if she's just trying to air out the suit?
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rfwuPXdE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-09T00:23:51.455+0000) > > You literally assumed that argument. Like I said above, she has no social skills and, therefore, couldn&#x27;t conceive the idea of attraction. What if she&#x27;s just trying to air out the suit? I’d agree with that if it was a suit. It’s a skin. That’s like saying you need to expose your organs to air them out. I do agree there is an assumption she processes exposure=dead, but it does seem to be a fairly connected logic to survival. Also, another assumption is that it acts fully as a skin. If it doesn’t than my argument falls short. However, I do think it has validity though as she can get sustenance from the suit in times when human food is falling short, meaning their biological processes are at least partially tied.
: > [{quoted}](name=ZaneShadow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HXOfNR5I,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2018-04-08T23:16:58.851+0000) > > She’s Ionian though, who are largely conservative in their attire. I think Noxians m, bilge water residents, Zaunites and Shurimans to a lesser extent are more notable for that. and... Freljord... of all places... i mean just look at the champions that come from that frigid tundra. {{champion:22}} effectively wears a skirt and tank top, {{champion:79}}{{champion:23}} and {{champion:201}} are shirtless (though Gragas is kinda insulated with his body fat so eh), {{champion:2}} and {{champion:77}} are effectively wearing a light leather vest and robe respectively (SGU is shirtless).. the only Freljord champions that seem to be properly clothed for their region are {{champion:20}} and {{champion:113}} (she used to be in a bikini though, which made even less sense than the others. thanks Riot for VU lol). this isn't including champions whose races are adapted to the cold {{champion:48}}, an ice mage {{champion:127}}, or demigods {{champion:106}} {{champion:516}}{{champion:34}}. however, granted, most of the poorly clothed champions were made in the early days of LoL, so i guess they get an excuse?
> [{quoted}](name=Broken Fangz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HXOfNR5I,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2018-04-09T00:28:45.635+0000) > > and... Freljord... of all places... i mean just look at the champions that come from that frigid tundra. {{champion:22}} effectively wears a skirt and tank top, {{champion:79}}{{champion:23}} and {{champion:201}} are shirtless (though Gragas is kinda insulated with his body fat so eh), {{champion:2}} and {{champion:77}} are effectively wearing a light leather vest and robe respectively (SGU is shirtless).. the only Freljord champions that seem to be properly clothed for their region are {{champion:20}} and {{champion:113}} (she used to be in a bikini though, which made even less sense than the others. thanks Riot for VU lol). > > this isn&#x27;t including champions whose races are adapted to the cold {{champion:48}}, an ice mage {{champion:127}}, or demigods {{champion:106}} {{champion:516}}{{champion:34}}. however, granted, most of the poorly clothed champions were made in the early days of LoL, so i guess they get an excuse? True true. I do actually dislike Ashes design for that reason. Tryndamere has the whole “my rage sustains me” thing where 4 feet of steel doesn’t kill him, what’s the cold going to do? Olaf is this to a lesser extent, though I do think he should be wearing more. Udyr is a little like that, though more spiritual union, like how monks sit under waterfalls for hours, he lives while only wearing the minimum. I got nothing for Braum though. I’ve heard rumors he could be an iceborn, but don’t think that’s valid. He should deffinitly be wearing more. Or have some other excuse for wearing so little like the shield fends off the cold or something.
: I really don't understand this drama with Kai'Sa's neck
So besides the obvious fact that breasts trigger a biological sexual reaction in men and Pecks only do this to a much lesser (like increadibly less extent) for females, that’s why. It’s a biology thing if your going to go to that extreme extent with it. So assuming your just using that to contrast your true opinion, I’ll share some bullet points. 1. She’s not as sexual as MF yes, but why is she sexual? Is it a cultural norm for shurima dress? MF does it to manipulate fairly vulgar men, as well as growing up in a place that was pretty normal. 2. Why does a person who only cares about survival think “let’s show off my breast, it’ll make people (Void monsters?) attracted to me”. There’s no logic to that when you grow up alone and only thing you process is exposed=dead. She’d rarely remove her helmet, much less anything else. So before anyone bites my head off, realize I’m totally content with Bullet angel Kai’Sa. I’m very conservative, but I get I’m a minority. The majority shouldn’t get what they want deprived, and so long as I’ve got a skin alternative I’m fine. My second Main, Sona, is a great example of this. I thought she was beautiful and had a supper fun kit, but was still uncomfortable. But they had the Silent Night skin available so I bought it and still think she’s just as beautiful of a champ, just not in a sexy way. I’m mainly just posting to explain there are very real reasons for the opposition. We are in the minority and we shouldn’t “win”as a result, but I do feel flattered Riot took the time to write the letter that they did.
: Where do you post player recruitments?
There is a recruitment sub-board right here. Open the side tab if you on IPhone, look at the game section, there is a recruitment tab there.
: WHAT DO YOU hate about league now?
Well this post is a downer. Can’t we be a little more optimistic? {{sticker:sg-soraka}} Criticism is important, but it belongs with proposed solutions with the reasonable expectation that it is competing with 100’s of other current ideas and issues. Ideas have to come from somewhere, and if the boards consistently offer them, Riot May become more open to them being a valid source, or at least inspiration material. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: 99% of the community is guys, who is really complaining about this?? did someones mom watch there son play this game and now started a petition. these are video game characters, no one cares what they are wearing
> [{quoted}](name=1wolfpack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=o6rtIHba,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-08T23:23:38.747+0000) > > 99% of the community is guys, who is really complaining about this?? did someones mom watch there son play this game and now started a petition. these are video game characters, no one cares what they are wearing Eh, I didn’t start the complaint and am much less bothered by it, but still fall on that side. I’m a guy who just prefers other things than sexy for personal, moral reasons. I get it that most aren’t that way and they shouldn’t be censored, and I’m honestly content with Bullet Angel Kai’Sa since if I or others are passionate about the issue and want to play Kai’Sa, there is an alternative. I love my Silent Night Sona for that reason. She’s a beautiful champion that has a really fun kit in game. But I was uncomfortable so when christmas rolled around I was so happy to buy the skin. I think she’s still just as beautiful, just with that skin it’s not in a sexy way. I don’t play her as much now but that train of thought is just part of how I think. So I’m not as extreme as either side of this argument. I just care that I at least have an alternative offered to me. I still wish things were more conservative. But majority should rule, and I won’t say they must be forced to think the way I do. As long as the minority gets a good alternative, they (meaning others and I in this case) should be content.
: i wonder how many people named zac main zac just because zac is zac
I had to read it three times to process this. I have a brother who thought about main-ing Zac because of that.
: Pls make Akali sexy Riot
She’s Ionian though, who are largely conservative in their attire. I think Noxians m, bilge water residents, Zaunites and Shurimans to a lesser extent are more notable for that. So I get it most poeple don’t care so I’ll just plug my opinion as shortly as possible. Some champs are extremely attractive. But they aren’t in a sexual way. Does that make sense? Think Diana, Leona, Fiora and Xaya. They dress very attractively without the first word being “sexy”. It’s cute, beautiful, or attractive.
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: Why did riot apologize about making Kai'sa? "overly sexualized"
So I get it most poeple don’t care so I’ll just plug my opinion as shortly as possible. Some champs are extremely attractive. But they aren’t in a sexual way. Does that make sense? Think Diana, Leona, Fiora and Xaya. They dress very attractively without the first word being “sexy”. It’s cute, beautiful, or attractive, none of which are less than the word sexy. So I do want to explain others side of it as well. For champs like Eve, MF or similar, I get it, that’s the character. I’m personally uncomfortable but that’s kinda the point, right? That’s the character. But Kai’Sa is a survivalist who’s personality is not likely to care about being sexy. She’s attractive do to a life of intense physical activity, ya, but heck, she’d rarely take off her helmet, much less that and her entire chest. I personally didn’t really react, just thinking “well, another one, at least I’ve got Bullet Angel skin if I want to play the champ and be comfortable”. But there is a legitimate argument from the other side. I don’t care as long as Riot provides me a skin alternative. I think that a great middle ground to meet at, even if I’m not 100% happy.
: How does a deep neckline = hyper-sexualized?
there’s hyper sexualized, sexualized, and not, I’d say Kai’Sa is the middle category So I get it most poeple don’t care so I’ll just plug my opinion as shortly as possible. Some champs are extremely attractive. But they aren’t in a sexual way. Does that make sense? Think Diana, Leona, Fiora and Xaya. They dress very attractively without the first word being “sexy”. It’s cute, beautifu, or attractive.
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