: Building armor doesnt work as well as you think lets say armor is at 200 (75% reduction) which is 2 hp bars of effective health. Your just lowering it into 3.75 or something now put in bloodrazor now its 5% or 7% (havent played league in a few days so forgive inaccuracy) now but in put in rage blade then armor becomes a pointless stat which at that point they are squishy (somewhat by cleaver) and by their passives your also squishy by all these items applied vs you. So the only true counter is damage at that point. If im going to die i might as well go out with a bang instead of death by a few more autos while having 0 damage which means theres no threat to them (these users) if you have no cc/burst. But armor is useful vs fair fights that have no bork and any of these items involved that null armor.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mqWw6zHd,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-17T02:14:36.537+0000) > > Building armor doesnt work as well as you think lets say armor is at 200 (75% reduction) which is 2 hp bars of effective health. Your just lowering it into 3.75 or something now put in bloodrazor now its 5% or 7% (havent played league in a few days so forgive inaccuracy) now but in put in rage blade then armor becomes a pointless stat which at that point they are squishy (somewhat by cleaver) and by their passives your also squishy by all these items applied vs you. So the only true counter is damage at that point. If im going to die i might as well go out with a bang instead of death by a few more autos while having 0 damage which means theres no threat to them (these users) if you have no cc/burst. But armor is useful vs fair fights that have no bork and any of these items involved that null armor. the "why build armor against people building lethality/last whisper logic eh... if you want to take more damage then go ahead and don't build armor. Don't complain about the item when you REFUSE to build against it
: I don't think it's the laner who needs to know about lane management, I think it's the jungler,
so what you are telling me is that... your jungler did what the wave would have done naturally? not sure how long you would have kept your wave frozen against a Jayce as Trundle though
: The rune ideas are cool, but heavily out of wack. Fleet Footwork: Moving and attacking causes an attack to become energized. Energized attacks grant 25% movement speed for 1.5 seconds. is MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH less powerful than Walk of Shame: Champions you help kill are slowed by 50% for 8 seconds upon respawning, and will not be able to use Homeguards for 30 seconds. Hell, I'd argue that some of these runes are significantly more powerful than some keystones. Runes are powercreeped to all getup though. Rito needs to gutneutrino all the damage and make CDR a stat you actually need to intentionally itemise for again.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fo3mFkbA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-15T23:40:16.099+0000) > > The rune ideas are cool, but heavily out of wack. > > Fleet Footwork: Moving and attacking causes an attack to become energized. Energized attacks grant 25% movement speed for 1.5 seconds. > > is MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH less powerful than > > Walk of Shame: Champions you help kill are slowed by 50% for 8 seconds upon respawning, and will not be able to use Homeguards for 30 seconds. > > Hell, I'd argue that some of these runes are significantly more powerful than some keystones. > > Runes are powercreeped to all getup though. > Rito needs to gutneutrino all the damage and make CDR a stat you actually need to intentionally itemise for again. and then we need to gut defensive stats. Then we need to gut everything because if it's not gutted it's not an actual nerf
: Can someone tell me why Malphite has never been a priority in terms of rework ?
I would argue that there are way more champions that need a rework or a visual update way more than Malph does.
: > [{quoted}](name=Gallows madness,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mqWw6zHd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T03:12:29.146+0000) > > Do you realize when botrk went from 8% to 6% hp dmg 2 seasons ago it destroyed the item so hard that no one ever built it? It even changed core build users itself and ruined on-hit champions who built it. I mean you don't get botrk's FULL potential with guinsoo unless you have it fully stacked. Which is why master yi doesn't fight till he has conq and guinsoo up. If you fight him while they are down he is super useless. > > Botrk is current hp and if you start fullying stacking it, then you aren't unlocking what it can really do. Now for blood razor that's different they can double down that to 8% max hp dmg which can be annoying but as I said you have to fully stack it first. what i mean is this with new conqueror coming out its pretty much a vayne W after its stacked plus Bork isnt fair it negates tanky purchases so bad it practically laughs at tanky champs i mean what should malphite do if a adc builds bork and whisper/cleaver/rageblade? well... go full AP of course hes forced to at that point keeping the zhonyas of course its armor and ap.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mqWw6zHd,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T03:15:21.057+0000) > > what i mean is this with new conqueror coming out its pretty much a vayne W after its stacked plus Bork isnt fair it negates tanky purchases so bad it practically laughs at tanky champs i mean what should malphite do if a adc builds bork and whisper/cleaver/rageblade? well... go full AP of course hes forced to at that point keeping the zhonyas of course its armor and ap. sorry but what? how about you BUILD ARMOR? you want to literally destroy an item because of your refusal to build armor?
: 100% winrate Soraka in diamond
wow those 12 whole games... that sure says something...
Prenora (NA)
: But that's my point they had other ways to reduce his AD potency without tanking his AP play, even a trade-off like an increased AP ratio to make the Dorans ring make up the difference just something to let us know that they thought of the effect the Nerf would have on off Meta builds... But 10 Damage reduction is one thing, but it's 70 Mana a cast now, bringing it way out of line with other mage harass spells.
> [{quoted}](name=Prenora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HmJ0kdVn,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T01:52:12.017+0000) > > But that's my point they had other ways to reduce his AD potency without tanking his AP play, even a trade-off like an increased AP ratio to make the Dorans ring make up the difference just something to let us know that they thought of the effect the Nerf would have on off Meta builds... But 10 Damage reduction is one thing, but it's 70 Mana a cast now, bringing it way out of line with other mage harass spells. if it actually did anything to his AP counterpart then sure but it won't. You will be getting mana if you go AP Lucian and his mana costs are next to no existent. I doubt you care about maxing Q first or last if you are going AP Lucian since it has no AP ratios whatsoever. You are speaking like this is such a huge nerf that will destroy AP Lucian when it will barely even touch him. He is losing a negligible amount of damage and getting a cost increase that is meaningless to him since he will just get a mana item... more than likely {{item:3285}} and considering that his E actually goes down in costs and an ability that I doubt you will max last more than likely, AP Lucian's mana costs are laughably low. He won't be affected in the slightest
: He is from eu ne. they don't have draft over there. Only like 2 times per week. #riot server balance
> [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AHqZotqt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T14:22:22.637+0000) > > He is from eu ne. > they don't have draft over there. Only like 2 times per week. > #riot server balance He can do ranked. He can do ARAM
: Why nobody plays alone? Answer is :
Ok... You do know that there are other modes right? Why would I play with someone? Unless it's a close friend there really isn't much of a point
: You prefer "barely playable but shit"? xdxdxd
> [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bEGHfXjY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-14T19:15:01.128+0000) > > delete this comment plox.... can't find how to delete things in mobile... stupid phone
: You prefer "barely playable but shit"? xdxdxd
> [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bEGHfXjY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-14T19:15:01.128+0000) > > You prefer "barely playable but shit"? xdxdxd You not liking or enjoying something does not make it "unplayable" or "shit" or "terrible" or any other dumb word.You don't enjoy the game? That's fine! Don't even attempt use youroopinions like its the same for everyone else
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1UvQt8WL,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T14:42:13.283+0000) > > Ok if there is nothing to discuss that means that this doesn't belong here. You already have your mind set so great way to kill your own thread and any chance it has of accomplishing anything. Sorry but you can believe that you made a good change all you like, it doesn't mean the change is good. Also riot doesn't have people that have vision or make good changes? Quite the stretch you are making when you have no idea what goes in the internal discussions and decision making at Riot. Arguing against my changes would just be a waste of time I mean try arguing against it, do it. yeah you cant. Best you can do is write some shit like this not a stretch are we playing the same game. Its has been going downhilll since season 4 DOWNHILL the game is not improving since season 4 so yeah Live design team lacks direction What did we get in a preaseason? Turret platings? I CAN GIVE YOU 10 REASONS WHY THAT SYSTEM SUCKS OR WAYS it can be improved Number 1 being it is ANTI MELEE CHANGE. Melee vs Ranged matchups are even more horrid due to it Riot ideas seem like 6 year old thoughts compared to mine 999.9999999% of threads dont have chance to accomplish anything I am just showing a world what a competent person would do with a teleport Issue
> [{quoted}](name=Poske,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1UvQt8WL,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T14:54:51.272+0000) > > Arguing against my changes would just be a waste of time > I mean try arguing against it, do it. yeah you cant. Best you can do is write some shit like this > > > > not a stretch are we playing the same game. Its has been going downhilll since season 4 > DOWNHILL the game is not improving since season 4 so yeah Live design team lacks direction > > What did we get in a preaseason? Turret platings? I CAN GIVE YOU 10 REASONS WHY THAT SYSTEM SUCKS OR WAYS it can be improved > Number 1 being it is ANTI MELEE CHANGE. Melee vs Ranged matchups are even more horrid due to it > > Riot ideas seem like 6 year old thoughts compared to mine > > 999.9999999% of threads dont have chance to accomplish anything > I am just showing a world what a competent person would do with a teleport Issue Why would I waste my time arguing with someone who won't change his mind? Sorry but I rather not talk to walls. Once again you have no idea about anything happening within Riot so shut up. Just like your terrible idea I am pretty sure that people at Riot thought that the changes they made were actual good changes and guess what? You can believe its a good change all you want, doesn't mean it's going to be one at the end. You say the game has been in decline since season 4? I would disagree wholeheartedly with that. Can you provide any evidence that the game has been in such a decline for this long? I don't care about changes made to the game because guess what? People still play and enjoy playing the game in its current state. A small group of people being displeased doesn't mean the game is "going downhill". Do you have things like playerbase declining? Profit going down, viewership at an all time low? Pretty sure that all of those have been massive up until last year where pubg and fortnite came into the picture and even then I bet the numbers are still massive despite everything. Now please provide me with something useful or don't bother replying at all
: Ignite and Shields
So... You want true damage to have even less counterplay?
6KEMBE4ORBA (EUNE)
: Maybe to you and your elo, it doesn't. And it certainly doesn't if you mainly play aram/urf/normals. :D To ranked players in high plat/diamond elo it does.
> [{quoted}](name=6KEMBE4ORBA,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hNcpGT9I,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T13:59:42.346+0000) > > Maybe to you and your elo, it doesn't. And it certainly doesn't if you mainly play aram/urf/normals. :D > > To ranked players in high plat/diamond elo it does. No it doesn't. The only people this would affect in any capacity are OTPs and nobody else
: This game is just unplayable.
Do people even know the meaning of "unplayable" anymore?
: How to keep support items away from the other roles(along with other benefits).
Ok... when you actually tells us how you would prevent other roles from getting support items you can comeback and make a thread about it instead of an incoherent rant about whatever this is supposed to be
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1UvQt8WL,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T13:54:23.141+0000) > > Thank you for the quote. > > I used the only metric we actually can use without a survey. And that'd be whether or not people are taking it. Similarly we could say the vast majority dislike cleanse because it's too niche. Surveys are also not a solution because majority of playerbase has never seen Teleport in a non trash state. You people just dont know better Ever since season 2 towers are in a trash state and we are in a season 9.. And when I SAY TRASH STATE I DONT MEAN NON VIABLE STATE. I MEAN just straight up unsatisfying clunky aids for the game state If I were in charge I would force this changes without discussing with other Rioters, we could only thinker the numbers here and there But we would get a better teleport system, ... there is nothing to discuss I just know its a good change And thats what Riot lacks a guy who has a vision and actually makes good changes also a guy who knows when something is a bad change without putting it in a game. Positional Q, Ruining Bounty system further
> [{quoted}](name=Poske,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1UvQt8WL,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T14:05:28.407+0000) > > Surveys are also not a solution because majority of playerbase has never seen Teleport in a non trash state. You people just dont know better > Ever since season 2 towers are in a trash state and we are in a season 9.. > > And when I SAY TRASH STATE I DONT MEAN NON VIABLE STATE. I MEAN just straight up unsatisfying clunky aids for the game state > > > If I were in charge I would force this changes without discussing with other Rioters, we could only thinker the numbers here and there But we would get a better teleport system, > > > ... there is nothing to discuss I just know its a good change > And thats what Riot lacks a guy who has a vision and actually makes good changes also a guy who knows when something is a bad change without putting it in a game. > > > Positional Q, Ruining Bounty system further Ok if there is nothing to discuss that means that this doesn't belong here. You already have your mind set so great way to kill your own thread and any chance it has of accomplishing anything. Sorry but you can believe that you made a good change all you like, it doesn't mean the change is good. Also riot doesn't have people that have vision or make good changes? Quite the stretch you are making when you have no idea what goes in the internal discussions and decision making at Riot.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HmJ0kdVn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-14T01:06:59.080+0000) > > Lucian takes W as first skill and uses it to get the Mana Band proc in lane in a way that it's almost imposible to dodge unlike when he has to proc it with Q that is easier to play around. > > > Nerfing his W dmg and increasing it's mana cost isn't a random nerf, it's a really well thought nerf. except that doesn't nerf any of his real power.. hes still one of the best... if not the best adc in the game why not nerf something that matters
> [{quoted}](name=Not a Neeko Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HmJ0kdVn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-14T01:58:24.101+0000) > > except that doesn't nerf any of his real power.. hes still one of the best... if not the best adc in the game why not nerf something that matters because it actually matters regardless of what you think? it's an ability that is easy to hit, easy to proc all sorts of runes +keystones + item effects plus it also serves as pretty decent harassment early on since it's easier to hit than a Q. So by hitting the ability you make Lucian take a hit to his early game which will cascade into his mid and late in the sense that it will take a bit longer for him to get to his late game status where he isn't the best in any way. They are hitting him in the one place where he is oppressive and the one place where he outshines pretty much everyone. Are the nerfs enough? maybe they will be, maybe they won't do much if anything. Only time will tell but saying that the nerfs on his W won't matter is laughable
DiQiu (NA)
: GOLD RANKED FLEX QUE WITH DIAMOND AND GRAND MASTER???????????????????????????????????
FlexQ and SoloQ MMR is different (same goes for normal). You can be challenger in one of them but be iron in the other 2
gileskd (NA)
: so I should never ever get sweeper?
> [{quoted}](name=gileskd,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XLrHOEj0,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-13T19:34:20.017+0000) > > so I should never ever get sweeper? You can get a pink ward. Sorry but you not wanting to do your part warding means nothing to me. You don't get to complain about what others aren't doing when you yourself don't it to begin with
gileskd (NA)
: if only there were an item that cost 800 gold and lets you place down 3 wards
> [{quoted}](name=gileskd,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XLrHOEj0,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-02-13T19:14:05.811+0000) > > if only there were an item that cost 800 gold and lets you place down 3 wards If only there was a way to get free wards... Sightstone being a thing or not means very little. You have ways you can ward. You have ways to help with the vision. You not wanting to use them isn't our concern. They exist, use them... or don't that's fine too but if you don't then you have zero rights to complain about supports and whether they ward or not
: You thought i'd link my account that i'm gonna sell you goddamn ape? You think this is even my account? I have access to at least 15 accounts and guess what i've made my thoughts clear on all of you and got them banned cause mods are a bunch of soft hardstucks that can't take heat. Speaking of op.gg you litterally got negative winrate on everything and you peaked D5 in season 7 as an adc ape.
> [{quoted}](name=FrozenDeath14,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fvqAjNgd,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-13T13:17:58.302+0000) > > You thought i'd link my account that i'm gonna sell you goddamn ape? You think this is even my account? I have access to at least 15 accounts and guess what i've made my thoughts clear on all of you and got them banned cause mods are a bunch of soft hardstucks that can't take heat. > > Speaking of op.gg you litterally got negative winrate on everything and you peaked D5 in season 7 as an adc ape. Yeah, I am also the owner of every single account that is currently in challenger. Dude stop even pretending to sound like you even know anything and stop lying. Hell in fact why don't you go to one of those other 15 accounts that is at least plat and respond here? I'll be waiting for your excuse as to why you cannot do so
gileskd (NA)
: PSA: Warding is the supports job
You do know that you have TWO trinkets that give you FREE wards? You do know that you can still buy pink wards? Warding is EVERYONE'S job not just the support
jukkitten (EUW)
: a gamemode made for fun
Ok... so your point is what exactly? That people can be major douches? Since... well yeah! You don't seem to play a lot of online games or at least ones that are considered popular in some regard. Every online game that has a competitive aspect to it and is even remotely popular will have douches in it.
Anatera (NA)
: Did you guys know?
Did you know? That quote is meaningless and has been disproven by everyone including the rioter who said it due to it being taken out of context to such an extreme by people like you? You are doing absolutely nothing by bringing this terrible quote back. Hell this quote is a clear example of people taking everything that Riot says out of context just so that people can then attempt to make whatever terrible argument they might have, get some form of validity
6KEMBE4ORBA (EUNE)
: Mastery Points in the new Loading Screen
It gives as much information as your summoner lvl does... aka none at all.
heroikc (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=66P91Hfj,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-12T03:32:02.299+0000) > > If you don't catch the snowball early then you should lose to the snowball that is the whole point if trying to go for an early snowball. Yeah, but the problem is that snowball is TOO prevalent in games and the actual means of recovery is minimal at best. People are generally going to get sick either getting stomped or not getting carried by snowballers. This has been highlighted and dealt with years ago, for good reason.
> [{quoted}](name=heroikc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=66P91Hfj,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-12T03:36:28.900+0000) > > Yeah, but the problem is that snowball is TOO prevalent in games and the actual means of recovery is minimal at best. People are generally going to get sick either getting stomped or not getting carried by snowballers. This has been highlighted and dealt with years ago, for good reason. yeah and instead what they want is FREE pass to the late game. How about people actually learn to adapt? how about people actually learn to not feed uncontrollably? how about people learn that always fighting isn't the answer? how about people realize that going behind a couple of CS is better than giving away 5 kills to the enemy? how about people realize that just because one person in the enemy team is ahead that doesn't mean that they lost? how about people realize that you can make comebacks instead of giving up the instant the score is something like 7-0 10 mins in? how about people actually earn their late games instead of wanting it to be the norm? like I said before and like I said again, bounty gold isn't the issue. People being ahead is not the problem. There was a time where 10k gold leads literally meant nothing whatsoever since you could just stall the game endlessly with super ease. There was a point where you could reach 20k gold leads and still not be able to close games. Sorry but I rather not go back to those days where early game and gold leads meant nothing at all
Yenn (NA)
: Kill gold really needs to be reworked to account for how hard the game snowballs right now
how are bounties helping the team that is ahead? the team that is ahead is the one who has the most to lose from bounties. Sorry but no, kill gold is the least of your worries when it comes to "snowballing"
: Maybe it should be, because what they're doing isn't working.
> [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u5rlg9aV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T01:22:25.491+0000) > > Maybe it should be, because what they're doing isn't working. when lvls and champion mastery actually mean something in terms of skill beyond "I play a lot of games" then yeah, it should be taken into consideration but since it's nothing more than a "I play league more than you" thing it's not. Just look at the lvls of diamond+ players and compare them to the lvls of those who are gold or below. Compare then those people's champ mastery on ANY champion to those that are gold and below. Champ mastery and your overall lvl does not equate to skill in the slightest
VPPtrue (NA)
: Mastery Ranking Is Too CS Focused
first, blame the other Kai'sa's that actually are able to CS while having a good KDA. It's other people playing the champion that determine what are the stats you need to get an S score. You are being compared to them not other people in your game or random top/mid/bot/jungle/support players. You are being compared to other players, playing the champion you are playing in the role you are playing. So if you are going to blame anyone here it's every single other player that can do what you do but more
Saezio (EUNE)
: Show me then. go watch a PW video and tell me what minute he takes 80% of an enemy's life with 1 box.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJbfOBJI,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T22:19:13.466+0000) > > Show me then. go watch a PW video and tell me what minute he takes 80% of an enemy's life with 1 box. show me a video where an AD shaco that isn't stupidly fed is 100-0ing someone in 0 seconds
: The fact that you didn't understand the nuance of what I said suggests you really aren't friends with smurfs. Soraka top AS A SMURF is a meta smurf position. It's not part of the MAIN meta. It's something done across the board by people who generally know what nonmeta champs/supports can trade in a role but normally aren't played there. Soraka top is a "right of passage" pick, because Top champs generally can't trade her. She's extremely easy to snowball top, because all you have to do is level Q, and take in the rewards. I do over 30k damage a game with Soraka as SUPPORT. I Don't know about you :) And no. You really can't. There are specific champs you can carry by resets. There are specific champs you can carry by abusing a champion specific trading mechanism which creates early leads and starves the other players. Not every champ in every position can smurf.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yocG8Wo7,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T22:15:07.406+0000) > > The fact that you didn't understand the nuance of what I said suggests you really aren't friends with smurfs. > > Soraka top AS A SMURF is a meta smurf position. It's not part of the MAIN meta. It's something done across the board by people who generally know what nonmeta champs/supports can trade in a role but normally aren't played there. Soraka top is a "right of passage" pick, because Top champs generally can't trade her. She's extremely easy to snowball top, because all you have to do is level Q, and take in the rewards. > > I do over 30k damage a game with Soraka as SUPPORT. I Don't know about you :) > > And no. You really can't. There are specific champs you can carry by resets. There are specific champs you can carry by abusing a champion specific trading mechanism which creates early leads and starves the other players. Not every champ in every position can smurf. so what you are telling me is that you are where you belong and just want to complain for the sake of complaining? got it
Nhifu (NA)
: Yea there's literally no quality control in this game <_< I wouldn't mind a higher level requirement for ranked too.. level 30-60 players offer absolutely nothing. Some of my friends back in the day that were hardstuck silver had 4k+ norm games..
> [{quoted}](name=Nhifu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hzE8EKoL,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-11T21:59:29.979+0000) > > Yea there's literally no quality control in this game &lt;_&lt; > > I wouldn't mind a higher level requirement for ranked too.. level 30-60 players offer absolutely nothing. > > Some of my friends back in the day that were hardstuck silver had 4k+ norm games.. ok... what does that even matter? the quality is literally that the bad players are at the bottom of the rank ladder and the good ones are up. You can put the lvl requirement to join rank be 900 and nothing would change about ranked. The bottom players of the ladder would be complete jokes when you compare them to the people at the high end of it
Saezio (EUNE)
: How do you lose 80% from a box? I would like some source material on this. unless you were not looking at the screen. AD shaco is 100% of your HP in 0 seconds from true invis and then he has a way out with his R etc. His E is a point and click nuke? Since when? I find that I can't even execute people at 5% hp if they have the smallest amount of defences with his E. Not to mention E is maxed last for ap shaco.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJbfOBJI,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-11T21:56:00.215+0000) > > How do you lose 80% from a box? I would like some source material on this. unless you were not looking at the screen. > AD shaco is 100% of your HP in 0 seconds from true invis and then he has a way out with his R etc. His E is a point and click nuke? Since when? I find that I can&#x27;t even execute people at 5% hp if they have the smallest amount of defences with his E. Not to mention E is maxed last for ap shaco. spoken like someone who has never seen an AP shaco in his life
: You do realize both those tricks are about 3 seasons old and not hard to pull off at all? I still occasionally ADC {{champion:103}} . Nonmeta/Meta Smurfing tactics. Not like Soraka doesn't dominate 1v1 duels.....
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yocG8Wo7,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T20:41:59.019+0000) > > You do realize both those tricks are about 3 seasons old and not hard to pull off at all? I still occasionally ADC {{champion:103}} . > > Nonmeta/Meta Smurfing tactics. > > Not like Soraka doesn&#x27;t dominate 1v1 duels..... and yet none of those champions are meta or even considered good in those roles. If you are that much better than everyone you play against then you can pick whatever you want, build almost anything on that champion and still have such an outlandish and insane advantage over the enemy team even if they picked the most broken champion in the game.
Saezio (EUNE)
: AP shaco is not meant to assassinate. He is meant to confuse the enemy and splitpush while being able to make easy escapes and be safe behind his boxes. They need to simply revert the champion. AD shaco is just no fun for anyone
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJbfOBJI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T20:24:29.143+0000) > > AP shaco is not meant to assassinate. He is meant to confuse the enemy and splitpush while being able to make easy escapes and be safe behind his boxes. > They need to simply revert the champion. AD shaco is just no fun for anyone yeah... and losing up to 80% of your HP just from a random box sure is fun... or having someone just "poke" you with a point and click nuke. AP shaco is just as cancer and unfun as AD shaco
: Can we just kill the autofill already?
You are right we don't need autofill... just like we don't need to be able to choose what roles we want to play. You are playing ranked? You should be ready to play any role with some amount of mastery instead of cherry picking your roles
Nhifu (NA)
: Please fix your SHITTY non-meta champs
So... somehow people playing poorly is the champions fault? Ok
: No, do not nerf Yasuo. Buff tanks, mages, sups, and jungle.
why would they buff every single class in the game to not nerf one champion? like it's way easier to nerf the one dude than buff the dozens of others
: Riot with the 1 iq plays
it's even more laughable that you think any iteration of URF would ever be balanced in any capacity
: I'm not exactly sure what you're expecting a solution to the problem of the ADC last hitting the cannon to "do". You can't stop an ADC from last hitting a cannon minion. Get over it. What this change does do, is prevent an ADC, that's as stupid as yourself, from accidentally last hitting the cannon when the support took relic shield. Resolving the vast majority of cases where the marksmen steals the cannon from the support.
> [{quoted}](name=deadlychuck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdKsQIli,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T02:47:57.912+0000) > > I&#x27;m not exactly sure what you&#x27;re expecting a solution to the problem of the ADC last hitting the cannon to &quot;do&quot;. You can&#x27;t stop an ADC from last hitting a cannon minion. Get over it. > What this change does do, is prevent an ADC, that&#x27;s as stupid as yourself, from accidentally last hitting the cannon when the support took relic shield. > > Resolving the vast majority of cases where the marksmen steals the cannon from the support. ok tell me how? The ADC can still freely last hit the minion. You literally accomplished NOTHING. All you did was add a pointless particle and more useless text to an item. Ok... if the ADC didn't noticed the relic charges on their support why would you even add more stupid things that those ADCs would not even comprehend. You didn't resolve anything since guess what? I can still last hit the cannon and the support would get NOTHING. It won't stop the support from not being able to use the charges in the later stages of the game. It literally accomplishes nothing of value. You can pretend it would solve the issue. The reality of the fact is that it won't. Specially with your wording that multiple people here had no idea what the hell the thing even was supposed to do... which in your words it does nothing other than pretty much say "please don't last hit your support might actually be able to last hit this! no please don't! I swear that this support will actually hit the cannon and not let it go to waste! no don't!"
: I mean they are serious concerns for the game, but you are comparing changing a game to changing the world. A game is fun and this is a fun little hypothetical for people to add to. It is serious about what I want to change and what others would like to change, but fun to see what others think and to imagine what each change would do.
> [{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X0RHdE6O,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T02:47:06.960+0000) > > I mean they are serious concerns for the game, but you are comparing changing a game to changing the world. A game is fun and this is a fun little hypothetical for people to add to. It is serious about what I want to change and what others would like to change, but fun to see what others think and to imagine what each change would do. in other words... there is no actual reason for it to be in gameplay right? it's fun or is it serious? you want to know what people would want as well? everyone to do 0 damage, early game to have literally no impact in the game whatsoever, people to be able to make every single mistake in the book without being punished ever, just a free pass to the late game, somehow having solo carry potential while never having someone in your team be "behind", somehow being able to punish every mistake the enemy does but never have your team be able to be punished, people to literally win even if their nexus explodes. I'm pretty sure I am missing a lot of stuff that people here "want". I want to know these great issues the game has, because Riot has been addressing them but until we reach season 4~5 lvls of "let's have every teamcomp be 2-3 tanks, 1-2 hyperscaling and 0-1 heal/shield bot with everything else being completely worthless and not worth picking" type of meta people won't be happy or satisfied
Moody P (NA)
: wait for meta trickle down to reach your elo
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2WmgXyt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T02:31:10.756+0000) > > wait for meta trickle down to reach your elo I want to see this meta too because it's not anywhere in any of my matches or any of the high elo matches I watch
: These are for fun dude. Calm down and some of these are super simple and would have very little impact outside of the direct removal. For example Removal of Zz'rot would have very little impact or no impact in 99.9999999999% of the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X0RHdE6O,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-10T02:08:12.697+0000) > > These are for fun dude. Calm down and some of these are super simple and would have very little impact outside of the direct removal. For example Removal of Zz&#x27;rot would have very little impact or no impact in 99.9999999999% of the game. ok... if this is "for fun" why is it in gameplay and not general or memes and games? also it would affect the game quite a bit. Sorry but you have no idea how much any of these "changes" would impact anything since you have no data whatsoever, no way to actually tell how much any of these changes would affect anything or anything actually meaningful, other than personal bias. I'll ask again, why is this in gameplay if it's supposed to be "for fun"? in fact i'll even add to this... if you were in control of the balance team the game would literally implode within weeks
: If I Controled Riots Balance Team
a yes, if I was in charge of the world I would end world hunger, make global peace, make everyone be equal to each other... then reality hits you in the face and you realize that it's way more nuanced than just saying "i'll do this!" and somehow make it happen.
: I just made a post saying the same exact thing. I don't understand their thinking at all.. it's already a bad system, and this makes it a flat out garbage almost troll like system. what the fuck is the actual point now? This even goes against EVERYTHING, that riot has stated about what they made this system for in the first place... And the worst part? Where are the 'benefits' to this ranked system now?? it literally has nothing but disadvantages and 0 (negative) fucking benefits
> [{quoted}](name=USG Failsawce,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MtOgx42I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-09T20:25:27.001+0000) > > I just made a post saying the same exact thing. I don&#x27;t understand their thinking at all.. it&#x27;s already a bad system, and this makes it a flat out garbage almost troll like system. what the fuck is the actual point now? > > This even goes against EVERYTHING, that riot has stated about what they made this system for in the first place... > > And the worst part? Where are the &#x27;benefits&#x27; to this ranked system now?? it literally has nothing but disadvantages and 0 (negative) fucking benefits no it hasn't. They explicitly said MULTIPLE times that they would prevent people from queuing up in a lesser role and then trading with someone (whether it's a premade partner or not) who has your main role. If you constantly swap roles then you will more than likely be penalized just like they said you would since at that point might as well not queue up as a role you have no intention of playing in the first place. If you do it every so often then you have nothing to worry about. You can complain all you want about the new ranked system it's way better than the old one
: > [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=voieg8Pw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-09T09:16:03.756+0000) > > Soft reset so yes but only for last season. I don't know my guy, some of these people are just at the level where I feel like this is a mystery box.
> [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=voieg8Pw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T19:53:16.577+0000) > > I don&#x27;t know my guy, some of these people are just at the level where I feel like this is a mystery box. so nothing new? you say this like everyone knows what every champion does. news flash, most people don't since they rarely see most champions regardless of rank. There are people who ult as Karthus at really questionable stages. I had a Plat player doing it in a normal draft game I played. I have seen people on Sneaky's and Scarra's stream doing it and they play at really high elos. Not everyone knows how to macro, specially in Silver/Gold so what are you even attempting to say? most Silver/gold players have no idea what macro is, they mostly win due to their mechanics being better.
: Either way, it's the second passive that provides the gold rewards, the first passive is the one that shares the charges. The actual charges don't actually cause the gold the be split, only the second passive which can activate only when you have a charge. This technically means that a marksmen could consume all of the charges for both players if both purchased a relic shield, but that's an extremely minor buff considering the disadvantage that such a starting item would be. But also a slight buff to a double melee bot which have sometimes starte double relic shield. And to bad, everyone gets the snark. ________ Oh but I did make one copying mistake, the current passive actually reads "melee basic attacks execute", which was just a misquote.
> [{quoted}](name=deadlychuck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdKsQIli,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T19:34:27.026+0000) > > Either way, it&#x27;s the second passive that provides the gold rewards, the first passive is the one that shares the charges. The actual charges don&#x27;t actually cause the gold the be split, only the second passive which can activate only when you have a charge. > > This technically means that a marksmen could consume all of the charges for both players if both purchased a relic shield, but that&#x27;s an extremely minor buff considering the disadvantage that such a starting item would be. But also a slight buff to a double melee bot which have sometimes starte double relic shield. > > And to bad, everyone gets the snark. > > ________ > > Oh but I did make one copying mistake, the current passive actually reads &quot;melee basic attacks execute&quot;, which was just a misquote. so... how does this does anything to prevent the ADC to just last hit the cannon? you literally did nothing at all. Congrats on doing nothing at all and pretending that this does anything
Kalikain (NA)
: Riot does not care about it's community.
Spoken like someone who has no idea about anything and will never be satisfied with anything Riot does
: We should remove all penalties to dodging queues.
Yeah, let's give trolls more ammo to use. Let's also have people dodge nonstop until they get that perfect teamcomp vs that garbage teamcomp
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