Darkrown (EUNE)
: Blade Temptress Evelynn
> [{quoted}](name=Darkrown,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=mbgMamtK,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-01T17:17:35.565+0000) > > * [**Link**](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oL9Nq) > > ________________________________________________________________________________________ > Hey guys! Here's a skin concept I drew for Eve. Blade Queen Lissandra is one of my favourite skins and I'd love to see the skin line expanded in the future. I think Evelynn would be a perfect fit for it too :D > > As always, I've included some VFX concepts as well, plus a few process shots and earlier ideas with this. Thanks for looking! Hope you like the idea and if you have any feedback to share, feel free to drop it below, I'm always open to critique. Cheers~ > > ______________________________________________________________________________________________ > > *They thought locking the Countess inside the cursed Maiden would keep them safe from her bloodthirst, but it only served to fuel it further. The iron cage would not contain the depths of her hatred, and she slaughtered them all. With her blades nailed to her back, she roams the forgotten battlefields, gifting any who would rise against the Queen a slow, excruciating death.* > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/092/953/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-1.jpg > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/106/986/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-1shadow.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/087/679/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-1-orthos.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/106/987/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-10q.jpg > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/106/990/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-10w.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/106/989/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-10r.jpg > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/038/740/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-2.jpg > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/936/062/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-2-thumbs2.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/038/333/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-2-torso.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/936/061/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-2-thumbs1.jpg > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/038/741/large/vlx-bacescu-bq-eve-2-weapons.jpg?1527549138 > > https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/936/059/original/vlx-bacescu-evegif.gif Eve has enough skins already. Can you put this much effort into champs that actually deserve skins, like my girl Zyra?
: I am so tired of muting people in-game and then seeing them attack me when we get into postgame.
> [{quoted}](name=JamesTheMage15,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OOb2dVEG,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-01T14:23:06.582+0000) > > They should stay fucking muted it makes no sense why i would suddenly want to see what they have to say. Please fix this already, we've been asking for so long. In other words "I am constantly tilting my team by playing poorly and making bad choice's throughout the game, causing my team to tilt, so I mute them, but then get upset when they still call me bad at the post game screen"
Epheremy (EUW)
: @Repertoir Mage's itemization rework failed and it should be addressed.
I just love how Riot refuses to comment on any post's pertaining to mages.
: Why is Brand Support Ok but Zyra was too oppressive so nerfed to the ground?
> [{quoted}](name=XXXMurderPenguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=69pzWVYW,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-01T06:23:59.023+0000) > > Brand support is so toxic to the lane. He has massive range and clear and damage yet is left untouched. > > Zyra was deemed too oppressive and so mid lane Zyra was literally killed. > > WTF is wrong with you Riot? THIS. Zyra got gutted completely and Brand was left untouched --makes ZERO sense
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King Lego (EUNE)
: Is it just me? Or is Janna unbalanced? No way it's just me...
Why on earth did this ridiculous rant turn into some sexist crap about women not wanting to play skilled risk taking champs? Garbage.
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: Small changes are unlikely to help. Here you need either a revert or a complete rework, apparently. I do not see any other way out.
> [{quoted}](name=meteorbreaker,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gzGdabde,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-15T16:21:56.899+0000) > > Small changes are unlikely to help. Here you need either a revert or a complete rework, apparently. I do not see any other way out. Yeah I was thinking that too
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 11 * Likely for smaller changes we take a look at at least Sejuani (hit too hard by recent changes) and Zyra (seeing what we can do to make plants a bit better without putting them back in 'it's not worth paying the cost to kill these' land). Scheduled for 8.11.
> [{quoted}](name=Altiverse,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gzGdabde,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-15T15:34:28.387+0000) > > Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 11 > > * Likely for smaller changes we take a look at at least Sejuani (hit too hard by recent changes) and Zyra (seeing what we can do to make plants a bit better without putting them back in 'it's not worth paying the cost to kill these' land). > > Scheduled for 8.11 Thank you, clearly I didn't read the notes hard enough. My mistake.
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: Patch 8.11 Early Look
So does Riot give an actual shit at all about Zyra or mages these days or is it just going to be League of Melee Legends forever?
Shaian (EUW)
: @RiotRepertoir: A modernization of Zyra as a Mage and Champion in 2018 with her current abilities
> [{quoted}](name=Shaian,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LQviEbiN,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-05-07T18:32:31.437+0000) > > Hello, I know you don't have the time to read entire essays, so I will try to make this as short as possible. > > What I want to achieve: > > - Make her a better Midlaner > - Shift a lot of power from her passive into her kit > - Make Q Max on Midlane a viable choice and preferred choice, without breaking it on Support > - Reduce early game oppressiveness and increase power later in the game (fix her “win-rate depending on game-length graph”) > - Increase skill floor by rewarding the player for playing her well > - Open up more roles/builds/playstyles > > My suggestion: > https://i.imgur.com/FafJFkI.png > > What I want to accomplish with these changes: > > - Bring her HP/level on par with other mages > - Decrease the squishiness of plants against spells (effects mid more than bot) > - Reduce passive strength greatly early game with no scaling to reward aggressive gameplay and dealing damage > - Making better use of seeds and cooldowns is rewarded, so that it’s less "I'm getting ganked and spawn 4 Thornspitters around me" or I snare someone and spawn 2 Vinelashers for max burst, because my kit is delayed"). > - Give Q the little push and QoL change it needs, so you can actually max it. As long maxing Q is inferior, sololane Zyra will not work. Currently, E must be maxed for the CC duration to have kill potential. The small amount of bonus damage on Q is fine for support too, since she loses 60-75% of the amount of seeds she currently has during laning phase as support. > - Be able to deal damage on tanks. Zyra can't rush Liandries like she used to without losing a lot of damage on carries. Her base damage on tanks is really terrible, especially since it’s likely that the enemy frontline builds Adaptive Helm against her. Zyra can't get through the enemy frontline right now. > - W Cooldown mostly affects Support Zyra. Reducing it by 2 seconds early game gives her the opportunities she might lack with the passive change > - Give her a bit of scaling post level 13 and give the player more choices about how they want to play the champ. This could create new item choices like Nashors or Wits End, maybe even Rageblade. It could also make her skill order more versatile. > - This version makes gold and experience more valuable on her, potentially opening up more roles. She may be able to become a good jungler. Maybe she can be played as an AP carry in the bot lane. I think its an exciting idea, that a champ can be played at all 5 roles. Zyra has the potential! > - Manacost on W to help her with stacking tear. > - A decreased damage to plant debuff after landing E because of how snaring works in this game. Melee champions should not get rewarded for getting snared and oneshotting Zyra's plants instantly on spawn without any player input. > - Manacost changes on Q and W to bring Zyra up-to-date with 100 Manacosts on her ultimate for the rest of the game. > - Trade quantity of plants in favor of quality. Melee basic attacks still too strong against plants post laning phase. QWREW against mobile melee champions in higher MMR is not possible. They know how important Zyra’s plants are to her and they die instantly. She needs the plant HP before casting her ult more often than the HP on the enraged plants. > - Last but not least, she is too reliant on her enraged plants to apply bonus damage. Her ultimate is balanced around this bonus since release. Giving it the base amount of reliablity of this damage through ensuring at least 2 enraged attacks is just modernizing this effect. > > The changes done to her since July 2016 brought one major issue to her. She gets access to too much power early, leaving no room for her to become stronger when the game goes on. Her passive gives her the exact same issue Syndra had on her Q until this patch. She should not fulfill most of her gameplay fantasy early game, but rather as the game goes on. Like the mage that she is and wants to become. THIS THIS THIS
: i'm actually the narrative lead for skins. my first job at riot was "regional ambassador to creative writing," but that team was folded into the various regional offices soon after i was hired. now nobody else in the company has the ambassador boards tag. i'm the last holdout. nobody can stop me (dear red name team, please do not read this and/or stop me)
> [{quoted}](name=Carnival Knights,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=iovEq4dg,comment-id=000500030000,timestamp=2018-05-04T21:20:32.951+0000) > > i'm actually the narrative lead for skins. my first job at riot was "regional ambassador to creative writing," but that team was folded into the various regional offices soon after i was hired. now nobody else in the company has the ambassador boards tag. i'm the last holdout. nobody can stop me (dear red name team, please do not read this and/or stop me) I couldn't pass up the opportunity to quote you so you would get a notification so I could be greedy and ask you for a request. Please, please please, give Zyra a skin this year. Dragon Sorceress was kind of a let down -- there are so many AMAZING skins and Zyra's just feel super outdated. I would give RITO allll my moneyz for an exciting Zyra skin. The thing is, I've spoken to several of the Riot artists on twitter, and I've gotten pretty much the same response from all of them, which is "Zyra skins are a challenge because of her plants" which is a real bummer. But I think there are SO many amazing skin ideas for her and her plants that people would pay big $$ for. Like: http://orig05.deviantart.net/e3c0/f/2015/078/7/8/zyra___sakura_kimono_concept_by_equifox-d8mbqjb.png https://imgur.com/dwAkCTL https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/006/386/698/large/jas-tham-z2.jpg?1498180291 https://pre00.deviantart.net/10e2/th/pre/i/2017/265/b/6/star_guardian___zyra_art_by_nexiah-dbo8pev.png
: A majority of the League community appears to hate female players.
Yep you guys caught me. This thread was really a ploy to let everyone know I have a vagina. Glad that cat's out of the bag now...
: Punches and Plants
If only this were a teaser to a new Zyra skin.
: As a girl, and a support main... Yeah no. If you're getting this kind of behavior commonly, you're doing something to provoke it. Probably something along the lines of what "T3H UB3RN07" said. No one actually cares that you're a girl. I get some shitty "lol ur a girl playing support" once every few months at most... And I just laugh and mute/report the guy. Also... you're not even ranked, and have never been ranked. Maybe don't go into games announcing you're a girl, or trying to get attention for it.
> [{quoted}](name=Frickface,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-05-03T18:16:31.094+0000) > > As a girl, and a support main... Yeah no. If you're getting this kind of behavior commonly, you're doing something to provoke it. Probably something along the lines of what "T3H UB3RN07" said. No one actually cares that you're a girl. I get some shitty "lol ur a girl playing support" once every few months at most... And I just laugh and mute/report the guy. Also... you're not even ranked, and have never been ranked. Maybe don't go into games announcing you're a girl, or trying to get attention for it. This isn't my main account. I don't go asking for it, you're name has zero hint of femininity in it -- I would never in a million years think you were a female irl. You missed my entire point completely.
remakoro (EUNE)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=remakoro,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=j0j3sdTE,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-05-03T18:19:30.469+0000) > > [DELETED CONTENT REMOVED] Example #2
: A majority of the League community appears to hate female players.
The downvote only proves my point further. Thank you.
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Hópe (NA)
: Can we do something about Zyras plants getting 1 shotted before we worry about Ryzes 7th rework
Hópe (NA)
: Can we do something about Zyras plants getting 1 shotted before we worry about Ryzes 7th rework
I've tweeted riot about this 2 times a week, for the past 4 months. They don't give a crap about Zyra anymore.
: New Zyra Splashart oversexualizes plants, and im offended.
As a Zyra main, I hate you because you actually made me think Zyra was finally getting a new skin. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
: ADC Burst vs Squishies WAS NOT nerfed on the PBE and I have the math to prove it
Funny how Riot never comments on a thread about mage's being under powered/nerfed.
Zatsukino (EUW)
: Nice Zyra signature ! Did you do it yourself ?
> [{quoted}](name=Zatsukino,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yr6yEYyE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-01T22:45:56.186+0000) > > Nice Zyra signature ! Did you do it yourself ? yep :) and thanks!
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: Can a female mage/caster get a new skin please... All these fighter skins are incredibly unppealing.
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: We have some work slated to explicitly address some of the annoying 1 shot stuff for Zyra plants. It's been on our list for a few patches now, but keeps getting eked out by other work we have to prioritize above it. Pretty unsatisfying answer unfortunately, since it feels bad to keep hearing us talk about it but not do it. Repertoire has some specific ideas for it that we'll get around to as soon as we can.
> [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=AAQmzoJh,comment-id=004c0000,timestamp=2018-04-25T16:56:01.691+0000) > > We have some work slated to explicitly address some of the annoying 1 shot stuff for Zyra plants. It's been on our list for a few patches now, but keeps getting eked out by other work we have to prioritize above it. Pretty unsatisfying answer unfortunately, since it feels bad to keep hearing us talk about it but not do it. Repertoire has some specific ideas for it that we'll get around to as soon as we can. YES ON THE ZYRA WORK SHE NEEDS SOMETHING so shes somewhat playable mid lane!!!!
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Moncho (OCE)
: Ideas & QOL stuff for mid Zyra and other mages
> [{quoted}](name=Moncho,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quaTXbTr,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-25T16:24:37.135+0000) > > Hallo :D > > I would like to present some ideas that could make Zyra mid more viable. Currently there isn’t much reason to pick her in the mid lane over the support role because: > • they pretty much build the same items and still dish out the same amounts of damage > • she doesn’t excel like other mid liners when they either get more gold, kills and xp. > • There’s is a point where your plants can’t deal enough damage in the late game because they get killed before they can fire their attacks. This is quite evident if you look at Zyra’s winrate in the late game as it just plummets downhill in nearly all ranks on op.gg. It also explains why her build is so reliant on sustained dps (eg liandrys and rylais) rather than heavy ap build so that she does consistent damage. > > However aside from that, the only benefit she does get out of mid is that she can get more gold and more exp. In order to address these issues, I used her laning benefits and combining them with some of my ideas that should make Zyra better in the mid lane without impacting support Zyra in the order of priority: > > 1. **Make plant’s attack speed scale with ability power.** Eg maybe like +3% attack speed per 50ap. > Even though her ult gives her plants attack speed if it connects with her plants, but throughout the entire game, the plants do not otherwise gain any attack speed which is why they fall off in the late game. By making it scale with ability power makes mid Zyra viable is that she can get more ap faster in her build meaning her plants will scale better too compared to Zyra support where she gets ap slower and her total ap varies (usually either 150 ap, 300ap from my experience of playing Zyra) depending on her build which should not impact her much as support. What this also means is that you can build more ap on her and still do dps rather than relying on the dps build which gives less ap in comparison. > 2. **Spawn plants per target hit by her q or e.** > While this makes her a bit oppressive in the early game, it will significantly help her in the late game. This is because it feels horrible when you hit your full combo and there weren’t any seeds around. Even though she generates seeds with her passive and on her w, you can’t always depend cos they might not be up at the right moment. To prevent her from abusing this in the early game, increase the mana cost on her q and e and limit the amount of plants spawn when hitting an enemy. Eg rank 1 spawns only 1, rank 3 spawns 2, rank 5 spawns 3. > 3. **In addition to her passive on her w when killing a unit, it should also give mana.** Just like what Riot did with Brand to help him out in the mid lane. > > I also think this attack speed scaling should also to given to other pets like Heimerdinger turrets and Annie’s tibbers to make them consistent throughout the game because they also face a similar problem like Zyra. But they should not receive it in the way like Ivern’s daisy with rank, because these two can be played as a support or do not take many ap items (eg it would be busted on Heimerdinger who could go zz’rot and banner). > > Also another thing about Annie. Can her molten shield deal damage from any source of damage she takes rather than AA. It’s kinda weird having this ability in the mid lane when she’s versing against mages who uses spells rather than AA’s. Also can Annie and Lissandra get buffs toward their base armor? It is horrendously low and its hurts because they have lower base health than in previous seasons (Eg. Lissandra had like 580 health until they stripped off 30 of it in season 5) and also they used to dominate AD assassins like Yasuo, Zed and Talon but instead they’re the ones getting dominated. It would be nice to bring them up a bit because I’ve been seeing much too much Yasuo and Zed’s solo carry their games. It would be nice to have like natural counters to indirectly nerf them. But that’s just my own opinion though… > > So yeh I hope this might lead Zyra and other mages in a better direction. But like I said these are just my opinions. Tried my best to make it as clear and concise as possible. I hardly ever post stuff. But I hope this post helps. > Thx for reading. Good luck sweetie. I've been begging Riot to address Zyra's current state for over 6 months now. They refuse to do anything about her and instead care more about Sonia's "AD" ( Huge slap in the face )
: They should just revert her q nerf cuz this killed her
: They should just revert her q nerf cuz this killed her
> [{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PhKeE8AF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-25T01:26:27.130+0000) > > They should just revert her q nerf cuz this killed her Oh trust me, I actually have a whole twitter account I use to remind Riot every single day. https://twitter.com/1337n312dc0d3 Lol.
: I mean, you shouldn't be looking for confirmation from others to know you carried your teammonkeys hard.
> [{quoted}](name=Snapp2Kill,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PhKeE8AF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-25T01:08:59.246+0000) > > I mean, you shouldn't be looking for confirmation from others to know you carried your teammonkeys hard. Yeah - it just gets SO old when people type crap discrediting the job I did at the end of the game.
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: [0.4] Boards Enhancement Kit - May 7
https://imgur.com/a/c1PBpUw May I please get this as an avatar? And can my title please say: Thorn Mistress
: cassie's W should have a lower cd?
unless she's so bad no one actually plays her anymore...
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: Did patch 7.24 already happen?
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CatSith (NA)
: Zyra Changes on PBE
Zyra nerf when it was absolutely uneeded UNBELIEVABLE riot
: Zyra Mid Main about the PBE changes
> [{quoted}](name=BisexualPlantBoi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nLhUiH5z,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-21T18:06:11.877+0000) > > Hi, > BisexualPlantBoi here (or better known as Sexy Bisex Plant if it isn't obvious). Zyra mid main since season 4. This is my opinion on Zyra's changes on PBE. I'm gonna be as brief as possible: > > **1. The most important one: Health changes make Vinelashers useless** > (Reminds me of when 24thCenturyFaux was talking about them during MYMU conversations - Riot just loses all the basic logic when handling Vinelashers.) > What are Vinelashers? **MELEE** plants that slow people with each hit, which is the only advantage of having them. What happens if you sommon it to attack a ranged champion? You either oneshot them with a combo which renders Vinelashers useless, or they keep distance and Vinelashers are useless, because they are melee. What happens when you attack a melee champion? Plop. And Vinelasher is useless. > For them to be effective you would need to summon more Vinelashers - but that would mean this change is a nerf when it's supposed to be a buff. You can aswell make Grasping Roots also summon Thornspitters and it would be a bigger buff after you buy Rylai's. Hello Riot? > > **2. Zyra doesn't have mana problems** > Mana management is something very easy on Zyra. I can almost spam spells not going OoM and I even have Manaflow Band now. Not to mention it's hard not to have Lost Chapter after the first recall and that's where all her mana problems perish. Better utilize this power budget somewhere else, this is just pointless and does nothing. > > **3. None of these changes solve Zyra's problems in midlane** > Although these changes would buff her support too, I cannot not mention these two things, because they are just infuriating when playing as midlane Zyra: > **3a: She needs her casting animations shortened.** You are supposed to be anti-engage mage (stated in MYMU), but your E's cast time screams otherwise: It's so long that you can use it only to engage when enemy is not prepared or doesn't see you, but when the enemy is the one engaging, you just root yourself for 0.75 s and you are dead before Grasping Roots come out. Same with ult, which makes her burst combo clunky and often makes you leave one spell out which fucks it up all. > **3b: She needs actual ratios.** Zyra just doesn't scale with AP. But now that her plants are shit against champions again and won't last long, she even gets way less plant attacks out of them and this is a perfect opportunity to buff their AP ratio from 1.5 to 2 or 2.5 prefferably. I understand if Zyra is supposed to be early-to-midgame champion, but she's very reliant on enemies making mistakes and not dodging her easily predictable skillshots and/or venturing to her garden, otherwise she doesn't snowball and it is pain to play her. > Btw it doesn't matter that you would buff Zyra support, the health changes will destroy her anyway (not that I mind). > > Thanks for your attention. > > Summary: Revert plant healt changes, mana regen buff is pointless, reduce cast times and/or buff ratios. THIS THIS THIS THIS
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