: If you started this game between beta and roughly season 4, you have to accept that the game is new
: > [{quoted}](name=charge attack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TeEQAuME,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-19T19:27:01.120+0000) > > Kassadin has no waveclear and can’t trade pre-6. Ekko excels at short burst trades and has plenty of wave clear. His early game is okay, not great. His mid game is really good and he has a good late game too. > > Yes, a few champs counter ekko - but usually it’s not too difficult to play around. Also in some matchups you HAVE to be aggressive and go for E - Q - auto run away trades which you win. Otherwise you will get slowly choked out by someone like Cassio. Oh yeah, you're right. But I'm just saying that it's not fair that some champs can beat Ekko in the late game and also match his late game.
Kassadin is a specific counter to Ekko. Sometimes it is just that way.
: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2951075003/237026843?tab=overview
So a full build fed Evelynn against a behind Ornn with barely any MR gets killed. When she’s hyperscaling and specifically good against tanks due to her DPS Q. In the same situation a Ryze or Cassio would clap that Ornn even quicker at a bigger range. But I guess that’s okay cause muh skillshots mAgeS r WeAk
: Season 9 A.K.A Season 8 part 2
“Lethality got even stronger” how? Explain please. Also plz show me Wukong with no armour pen and only lethality melting full tank with 3k health in 2 seconds. Thanks. “Jungle items suck”. They’ve been the same since season 5. Why change them now? Explain please. You wonder why Riot doesn’t respond to boards when you are literally lying through your teeth and make another biased ass pro-mage thread.
: It's so hard for Ekko to survive in mid lane
Kassadin has no waveclear and can’t trade pre-6. Ekko excels at short burst trades and has plenty of wave clear. His early game is okay, not great. His mid game is really good and he has a good late game too. Yes, a few champs counter ekko - but usually it’s not too difficult to play around. Also in some matchups you HAVE to be aggressive and go for E - Q - auto run away trades which you win. Otherwise you will get slowly choked out by someone like Cassio.
Nhifu (NA)
: What I wanted to see from the balance team. I'll do all the work for you. :P
This is why boards balancing the game would kill it within one day. Lol.
: I don't want to go overboard seeing as this is the first week of the season in pro play, but...
What games are you even talking about? Plenty of 35min close games. Baron is still too powerful and usually ends the game, but there have been a lot of close games. Depends on the matchup though. SKT or GRF vs a bottom tier team is going to be a stomp. Whereas teams more evenly matched often have close games.
y0r1ck (NA)
: Why should you be able to do that in the first place? I see you're complaining that you can't sand bag your way to a lower elo so you can have relaxing games in the most competitive game mode. What the fuck. Just quit. Or carry your team.
: find a friend to play ADC
That's just not worth in this current meta. The MMR offset you get for duoing means your solo lanes are gonna lose 70% of the time. Even if you crush bot lane it usually doesn't matter.
Done25 (NA)
: l've climbed to Gold playing only support for the last three seasons. If all else fails you can play Brand support and solo carry bot lane.
Not that I _can't_. But why should I be forced to play like 200+ games to climb from probably Gold 5 to Plat 5 when I can play mid lane and do it in under 50? It's so much easier to carry through mid lane.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=charge attack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y8ktKBsw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-16T23:05:20.527+0000) > > Because a good Riven can 100-0 people during her CC duration. At least when she builds full lethality you could be like “yeah she’s glass cannon”. But usually she builds off-tank and still has absurd levels of damage and CC. Not to mention her shield scales with AD. > > She is probably the most unfun champ to play against outside of lane. Very few people can play her to her maximum potential so that’s why no one talks about her. {{champion:80}} Riven is unfun to lane against you say? Hard to deal with? not if my click nuke spears free auto block, click stun and ludicrous lane bully status have anything to say about it! .... Pantheon wrecking her aside, Riven is mainly busted because of {{item:3508}} and Conqueror, she isn't {{champion:6}} levels of obnoxiously difficult to lane against with clear windows early on you can abuse. {{champion:58}} and {{champion:78}} also do a very good job of making her life hell too, even {{champion:75}} outduels her at 6 onwards namely because she can't deal with his Q spam and wither. I'd honestly hold off on wanting her directly nerfed and wait to see what happens with the spear rework (less stated version of current ER) and what Riot plans to do with Conquerer, especially with the rumors Conquerer will be entirely reworked losing the overbearing true damage portion. For now just use her counters whenever you see her and remember, if you're good with {{champion:114}} its a skill match up in which if you win, Riven falls away for the rest of the game.
"Outside of lane". She is abusable in lane because of long cooldowns and low hp regen. However 4/5 players are not laning against Riven.
: Riven actually needs to be talked about more, Super strong in Low elo, and High elo.
Because a good Riven can 100-0 people during her CC duration. At least when she builds full lethality you could be like “yeah she’s glass cannon”. But usually she builds off-tank and still has absurd levels of damage and CC. Not to mention her shield scales with AD. She is probably the most unfun champ to play against outside of lane. Very few people can play her to her maximum potential so that’s why no one talks about her.
: yikes son
Ye. Good response. Next time come with proof or your claims mean shit to anyone. Lata.
Meddler (NA)
: Galio - Overbuffed so hard at present to tell whether the changes reduced his pro versus regular play gap, given he's just the right choice everywhere. Should get a clearer read after the 9.2 nerfs. Sejuani - Too early to say. Seeing her get pro play already, not sure if it'll be a healthy amount or not. Her performance in regular play seems around appropriate. Ornn - Missed the mark on power initially at least, though there's a moderate amount of relearning curve and his play rate tripled post changes which tends to depress average performance for a while until new players learn the champ or go back to playing other things. Going to add a little bit of early power (base hp and armor) in 9.2, then reassess where adaptation plus those stats leaves him in both contexts.
I think it’s clear he is way more balanced in competitive now. It’s just first day of LCK, but he was not high priority for either team unless they had a composition built around his engage. His numbers are overtuned right now (which makes him OP in SoloQ). But I think it’s promising to see him OP in solo but only kinda good in competitive. Meaning a couple numbers changes should put him in line.
: Well this is really sad it was like the only league podcast.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mEsELEGE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:59:30.211+0000) > > Well this is really sad it was like the only league podcast. There’s a bunch of mostly esport focused ones.
: "why do you not post from your d3 account rather than a smurf that went to p1 100lp in less than 100 games", well its pretty simple really, my """"main"""" is banned from both the boards and the game. >then confirm with their silver account why the fuck would i lie about being stuck in silver lmao
Just wanna see that you’re playing the same champs but one account is being held back by Riot games and the other has lucked into high diamond. Yet to be proven. So pce.
: I'm D II- III. My smurf this year got dropped from Silver I into Bronze II while I was experimenting with Neeko builds. It took some 190 games to get back to S III, and most of that is a straight ~80% win streak at the end. I'd get to a promo, and then have 4 people literally 1/16 on me while I had over FOUR TIMES their damage/objectives. I finally had to stop playing lane appropriate champs and just play Zyra EVERYTHING (Zyra adc, Zyra support, Zyra jungle, Zyra Top, Zyra mid) and just stomp 1v5). Elo hell via MMR placing isn't real. But Elo hell via expected proficiency players is VERY real. Your contribution is diminished when 4 people are so unskillful that they are just as bad legitimately playing as they would be just int feeding. That's where low Silver/Bronze is right now. They do not understand that early game kills/deaths are the most influential factor to winning a game. They do not mind going 5/25, "because teamwork can beat that late game." (The other team can be unskillful too, but if your team is the one losing the cointoss clownfest, even bad players fed a 2-3 item advantage can beat a smurf. And you can't be everywhere at once preventing their deaths)
: i think i have a pretty objective look on this since at this point i can climb to dia in about a 100 games playing any role, now the thing is i was a fresh proud gaymer that had reached d3 2 years ago and figured i'd make a smurf account for the sake of it. now you would think i'd go around stomping scrubs at low elo but i actually got stuck in high silver / low gold elo and then later on again at high plat. now why did that happen? did i get considerably worse by switching accounts? no i had just gotten used to respecting my opponents and somewhat trusting in my team, i had a very low risk low reward playstyle that allowed me to get stuck at an elo way bellow my actual level just for the fact that despite being more useful than my opponent every game i didn't have enough impact on the game. TL;DR being able to climb at a decent speed and playing well aren't necessarily the same thing, this isn't to say that most people aren't at their elo for a reason but it is possible to be stuck bellow your actual skill level.
Why does no one ever post this on their Diamond 2 account and then confirm with their silver account. I only ever see stories with no proof ever. There’s a difference between stuck and hardstuck. You can be unlucky and be stuck in a division for 10, maybe 20 games. But if you’re there for 100 games then, yeah, you deserve it.
: Elo hell actually is a thing. As I see challenger streamers struggling to get out of gold or plat because of how bad their teams are. People here just do whatever they want and with the meta's we had lately, you just cannot carry. No matter what rank you are.
Point me in the direction of these Challenger streamers and their stuck in gold/Plat accounts. I’d like to see a link to their challenger account and their gold account. Thx.
: Nah. It's more like this: * Every match is fast-paced and fun but also lasts 80+ minutes. * Every match reaches late game but ADCs are simulatenously useless and useful. * ADCs die by virtue of daring to enter the same screen as an assassin, but assassins are also somehow able to be handled by the enchanters who aren't allowed to be strong ever. * Every melee without an explicit dash is given massive, ***massive*** buffs. These buffs render them functionally incapable of being kited. Every time anyone dares to complain that "hey it's literally impossible to kite this guy he runs at me with 10x my maximum possible MS even if I took predator, Celerity, Deadman's, and Righteous Glory" they're told "just kite him lul ur so bad". * Mages can mindlessly waveclear and ignore literally all MR. * True damage is renamed to "Not true damage" to placate the boards. They're physically incapable of telling the difference.
Just like how bounty gold was overall nerfed but now that you can see it above your tag, it’s suddenly OP. Lol.
: At lvl 18. At lvl 6, Ignite currently deals 205 damage. With the nerf, it will deal 170, which is 35 less damage. That's all fine and dandy, but the fact that it will be up *more often* with the CD reduction doesn't make it all that much better. Maybe I'm underestimating the nerf, but it does seem like that CD reduction just completely invalidates the nerf.
Didn’t they just revert the changes they did before?
Eedat (NA)
: PSA: This abomination is about as close to a hard reset as you can get
The fact that “elo hell” is still a thing discussed in OW, Dota, League communities is kinda funny. Just laugh at them and enjoy their struggles and mental gymnastics.
Khabith (NA)
: Can we all just stop copying each other? It's getting kinda sad
This is how Boards has been forever? No one here has any brain power.
: Prophecies - Edition 5
Because Riot actually listens to the boards/reddit/twitch pretty much every single time... People just get what they want and then never post on boards again. The people who hate the tank meta... they are happy. They have no reason to post on boards. So you'll ALWAYS see anti-"current-meta" posts. High damage meta? Nerf damage Riot wtf always being 1-shot no strategy!!!!!! Low damage meta? Riot wtf this game is boring as fuck wtf can't kill anyone just sit under tower meta xdddd, no strategy just afk farm xdd!!! Also remember the "season 3 was gr8" posts? When Gragas/Zed/Leblanc/Kassadin/Rengar would look in your direction and remove you from the game? When you no longer played League and had to play dodgeball if Nidalee was in the game. Yeah... good times, amirite? Good post.
Zed genius (EUNE)
: Why is Riot refusing to do anything about Zed?
People in low elo only complain about him being OP because he's popular. There are way more broken champions in the game: i.e. Talon, Camille, but are rarely played in Silver so you don't see anything on boards. Also he's bad for reasons that have nothing to do with his ability to 1-shot someone. He overkills people with his ulti, but is pretty bad without it (they keep siphoning power into his ulti away from his kit). So the idea is that: It's not hard for Zed to become very fed (10+ kills) - which makes silvers lose their mind as they die. But if you have any clue what you're doing, the 10+ kill Zed will still be worthless in determining the outcome of the game. Like you see Faker play Zed and be 20+ kills, but still seem to have little impact. Then take most other "snowbally" champions like Jax, Lucian, Camille, Akali, Ekko etc... and give them 20 kills, and the games absolutely over. But in lower elos, people have no idea how to group and abuse, so Zed just getting fed leads to people running mindlessly in their jungle and dying 1v1. So pretty much this: Zed's always been complained about by low elo, like every assassin in the game. He's complained about more _only because he's popular_. If Ekko was as popular as Zed you would see the same amount of complaint threads. He's bad in high elo... because he's just bad. He doesn't have the tools to close the game with his lead, because he puts himself in too much danger. A 5/0 Zed and a 10/0 Zed just don't really accomplish anything different. They will 1-shot you with ult, and not accomplish much without. Which really sucks for a player trying to carry.
: Why does Kassadin counter Ekko so hard?
In terms of Kassadin. He does well against anyone that can't abuse him early, and ekko certainly can't. Kassadin can match his burst trade with his Q shield, and at best Ekko can just shove Kass under tower - but can't really harass him under tower. Meaning Kass gets a free lane. Later in the game, Kass can run Ekko's ass down town. Literally at no point in the game does Ekko have kill pressure on Kassadin, while Kassadin will eventually have kill pressure on Ekko. These are both champions that want to side lane (ideally). I'm pretty sure Lissandra is also good into Ekko. You can deny his burst trade with your W + aftershock (and honestly with just W), and then win the extended trade with Qs. He won't have kill pressure on you at really any point in the game if you properly play around your cooldowns and not walk up when they're down (your cooldowns are a bit higher than his). Remember: play the lane to win, you shouldn't just let Ekko have his way with your wave since level 1. Make him your bitch every CS he goes for.
gRyf1n (NA)
: HOW DARE HE PLAY WELL! SHAME
> [{quoted}](name=gRyf1n,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Li1h4QGP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-06T00:53:04.579+0000) > > HOW DARE HE PLAY WELL! SHAME Isn't that the same for getting kills though? How is this any different?
: What is the proper way to report an account for being boosted or bought??
Sorry. No one is better than anyone else in League. Anyone who bought an account is defeating the evil Riot forced matchmaking forcing them into silver.
Yara0 (NA)
: Riot the game needs more damage alot more damage. And buff lethality too cause no one buys it.
Just start banning people who main Morgana/Janna/Soraka cause they’re pretty much boosted.
Tedo58 (EUNE)
: Whats the point of the whole Boards?
The occasional pop ups are given to you by Riot... they use the data. The data is way more useful than boards or Reddit because the data isn’t skewed. Morde mains aren’t super disproportionately represented unlike boards. People who watch LCS aren’t super disproportionately represented like Reddit.
: Yasuo buys Dorans blade and dagger
Adc sucks. Just play other classes bot lane. Have fun. Don’t mind downvotes here, people on boards are dumb as bricks anyways.
: Any other ADC mains finding other games alot more fun lately?
: What's balanced about lucian?
Mana gated, short range = awful scaling. It’s hard to see in this short game meta, but Lucians have often been pretty fed but then 30 mins hit and he’s still worse than any late game ADC. It’s cause he has no AS/AD steroid and relies on weaving abilities to do damage, and any ability based marksmen falls off hard compared to an auto based one that can use Crit more effectively. Also his short range makes him really easy to lock down and blow up in a late game 5v5. ~~~~
: Why?
Cause if you open your eyeballs you’d see that he’s OP right now. Instead just send me the boards Morde squad to downvote me. Nice. Hope Riot starts banning Morde mains from boards, they’ve been brigading for over an year now.
Weensw (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=charge attack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8gN68J9X,comment-id=00040000000000000003,timestamp=2019-01-04T05:47:31.149+0000) > > Are you new? This isn’t new... Yi has always done this. You used to be able to counter build against yi as a tank, now, everything is futile no matter what you build.
False. He always did plenty of true damage with E (even more before it was nerfed). Also devourer made him get rageblade passive way earlier with no setup. It was always futile.
Ultrys (NA)
: Git gud again after vacation?
Same bro. Just play some normals/nexus blitz to get back into the groove. Also don't auto-pilot your games. Think very actively about what you're tryna do (right now, and think about what ur enemies are trying to do).
Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=charge attack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zKB1Zc82,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T18:11:05.138+0000) > > Except pros have often come out and talked about how much they dislike x meta? Like people HATED tank meta in high elo and pro players - very vocally. They are not paid to say balance is amazing fucking lmao - they are paid to be good despite balance. Just like how Imaqtpie says balance sucks but that's just cause he wants ADCs buffed. During 8.9 boards claimed "its the worst meta ever" but Imaqtpie said he loved the current meta? It's not like he was making more money then... Lol... > But have pros ever came out and talked how they disliked the game? I didn't said they're paid to say balance is amazing. But they're paid to play a videogame. Bjerg's monthly paycheck is probably bigger than my mother's annual earning. For that amount of money, no matter how much I hated the game, you can bet your ass that I would praise Riot every morning and every night for how good their game is. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would do the same. And btw QT is an ex-pro sooo he can say whatever the fuck he wants bout Riot they're not giving him the money, twitch does. > Also balance changes effect LCS too. This is a garbage post and you should be embarassed that you posted it. Try again. You're right, balance affects LCS. But I said 'balance changes and other bs regular players are dealing with' which includes shitty teammates, slow af client etc. And why're you telling me the post is garbage? I didn't wrote it, Real Sexy Yoona did.
> [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zKB1Zc82,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-05T18:25:12.979+0000) > > But have pros ever came out and talked how they disliked the game? > > I didn't said they're paid to say balance is amazing. But they're paid to play a videogame. Bjerg's monthly paycheck is probably bigger than my mother's annual earning. For that amount of money, no matter how much I hated the game, you can bet your ass that I would praise Riot every morning and every night for how good their game is. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would do the same. > And btw QT is an ex-pro sooo he can say whatever the fuck he wants bout Riot they're not giving him the money, twitch does. > > You're right, balance affects LCS. But I said 'balance changes and other bs regular players are dealing with' which includes shitty teammates, slow af client etc. > > And why're you telling me the post is garbage? I didn't wrote it, Real Sexy Yoona did. You say if you made a bunch of money you would praise the game - but twitch streamers make a bunch of money but criticize the game? Pro players also OFTEN criticize the game. Yes pros HAVE come out and said they disliked the game. Three years ago SoaZ said that he hated the game and only played it for money. Bang in 2017 summer said he had absolutely no passion for the game and played it as a necessity. Remember earlier this season when Rekkles benched himself and said this is the worst and stupidest change Riot has made (adc changes). Plenty of pros have said similar things in various points in time. Just because you're woefully uninformed doesn't make you right. Please don't speak on things when you have no actual clue but are just assuming. Riot doesn't give Bjerg the money, TSM does - at best Riot subsidizes a very very small portion of his paycheck. Jesus fucking christ. You're just saying shit that is objectively untrue. I wasn't talking about his post. I was talking about yours. You should've been embarrassed - but instead you decided to embarrass yourself again. Don't bother responding, just double check everything you're going to respond with (because you're most likely going to be wrong, you haven't said a single right thing this whole discussion) so you don't waste my time proving you wrong. Lata. Also, have fun in boards. You have no critical thinking skills or ability to fact check before you spout shit, so you'll fit right in. Good luck.
Nhifu (NA)
: Conquerer for ADC's
You can get it for only a low price of 3400 gold. No problem
: Why does VoyBoy always scream THE KID or BOY GENIUS when he makes a play?
When he was competitive, he was an extremely young pro player and the youngest on his team. He was also a very explosive player and loved to make big plays. So "the kid" (like an endearing way of refering to children, or someone younger i.e. "my kid brother") or "the boy genius" refers to that. Kind of like calling himself the young prodigy, or really good despite his age. Even though he's older now, he still says it.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=charge attack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zKB1Zc82,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-05T17:51:30.430+0000) > > Bjergson just tweeted that he loves the current game state. Huh. Maybe it’s just Boards and ADC mains that thinks the games screwed up and everyone else is OK? 1. He's a pro player who's getting paid to play this game. Bruh, if i got at least half of his money, I would say that I love the game aswell. 2. An opinion from one player doesn't mean anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zKB1Zc82,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-05T17:58:05.188+0000) > > 1. He's a pro player who's getting paid to play this game. Bruh, if i got at least half of his money, I would say that I love the game aswell. > 2. An opinion from one player doesn't mean anything. Neither does opinions of 54 silvers on boards. Ignore boards too. Just listen to reddit then, if we wanna judge by sheer quantity instead of quality. A lot of other coaches agreed with Bjerg too.
: THEORY: Is RIOT intentionally screwing up the game? (kinda but not really outrage marketing)
Bjergson just tweeted that he loves the current game state. Huh. Maybe it’s just Boards and ADC mains that thinks the games screwed up and everyone else is OK?
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: alright, let's see if mods are usefull for this time
Hey, he made the exact same comment on my post and it hasn't gotten removed. Hope mods aren't biased xd (they are btw).
0RA (EUNE)
: pls rework mordekaiser
: Tell me one good thing about League of legends and i shall tell you millions of bad things in return
Moody P (NA)
: Two replies? How generous.
No problem. You've been blessed.
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: It has gigantic playerbase and people buy skins. Just because someone quits doesn't mean that the game is dead. E-sports are good promotion despite the state of soloQ and exciting Worlds probably brough many new kids to the game. Good luck promoting the game with farm fest e-sports...
Especially they have way more data than anyone on boards could hope to have. As much as people are like "the game is dying", it doesn't _look_ like it's dying looking at twitch/youtube/op.gg's ranked playerbase numbers. Yes, its not at it's peak like s3/4, but its been pretty steady for the past few years. Not to mention skin qualities going massively up, hextech chest RNG stuff introduced, mission passes, started monetizing LCS after years. Even if they don't have the most players in their history I wouldn't be surprised if they're making the most money now.
: > [{quoted}](name=KARABICA JEBAC ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vXybMTtd,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-04T14:54:19.927+0000) > > For example "Buffing" turrets took them the whole season. When I last played DOTA2 their turrets were nice.
??? Dota2 do negative damage compared to league turrets.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: What people seem to not understand about "nerf everyone equally" is that not everyone needs equal nerfs. Ok, say we take damage down by 40% on everyone. Who will be more popular after? Same champions as now, because even tho it takes longer to kill, they still are the fastest killers. Yes, games will be longer, but that's all that will differ. No-one's gonna take Va(a)rus to deal damage since even now he seems to be unable to do damage (right now, he's considered C tier on some lists, hence why I named him, no offence to anyone). If you take away 40% of his damage as well along Lucian, Lucian will still be more popular because Varus can't kill shit while Lucian, although slower than now, is still going to be the best killer. Straight up buffing defenses does the same thing, the fastest killers will still be the ones most picked. You can't nerf everything equally or buff all defenses. You need to figure out what's actually strong because it's strong, weak because it's just trash or weak as a side effect of something else. For example, we all know Tanks are trash right now due to the amount of true damage from IE and Conqueror, (tho IE gets a change, so forget that one for now). Say we remove Conqueror for 1 patch, see how Tanks fare, will they be too strong or too still weak or just in a good spot? If Tanks are in a good spot afterwards when true damage is gone, then there's no reason to buff defensive items as it will make Tanks too oppressive, so instead of having the ADC cry "I need more defense" have him actually build something that's defense other than GA as 5th item. If tanks are still weak, then look at why and not just buff defensive items unless they need buffed. People here are "just buff all defense" or "just nerf all damage" without realizing such a change will do little to nothing. Each champion that is a problem needs addressed in a different way, hence why "nerfing damage" is not an easy task.
OK, nerfing damage by 20% or w.e. is stupid as fuck and I won't even bother responding to the people who suggest it. However, you are also wrong. Let's say damage was nerfed by 40%, that doesn't neccessarily mean the same champions will be wrong. DPS champions will be stronger while burst champions will be weaker. Example: Annie drops her combo and 1-shots Varus, he gets maybe 1 auto off. Damage is nerfed: Now Annie drops tibbers and does 60% of Varus's health. Well, her cooldowns won't magically come up again. He now gets to pound in 8-10+ autos before she has cooldowns and can actually finish him off. Both the champions listed here were not nerfed the equal amount. This is also similar with Lucian vs Varus. Varus will thrive when we can get his passive stacks off and proc them - whereas Lucian would love to E-aa-W-aa-Q-aa and pretty burst down Varus - he will get maybe a couple passive stacks off and no stacking of rageblade. Now if that combo doesn't 1-shot Varus, suddenly Lucian is sitting there using plain auto attacks. Now in the initial trade Lucian was at the advantage, but now that his spells/AA cancels are on CD, Varus can pound away and now he's at the advantage - while also being able to stack rageblade. Whereas now, Lucian would just instawin the fight _because_ he won the inital burst trade. Similar things will happen everywhere. Since towerdives are much harder now, champions that thrive at sitting under tower (like Xerath or Veigar) will become stronger. And other potentially adverse effects to the meta.
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