: Why even bother on making smurfs account when you are just Gold. That is a waste of time for sure. Just play on your main and try to reach the next division. Gold doesn't provide the best quality of game in league but it's still better than bronze. Why would you even smurf in bronze when you have a chance of getting in better games and climb more on your main. Just right after getting gold.
I did it because I was afraid of getting demoted back into silver before the season ended. Before I got into gold the same thing happened to me what I just described but then a miracle happened and I won 15 games in a row including my promos and I got gold. After that I figured I didn't wanna push my luck and get demoted. I want the championship skin at the end of the season for achieving gold. Plus I wanted to see how much I improved and if it was just luck that I climbed up.
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: My yearly Tristana Post: Solo Lane Tristana
I don't know how this {{champion:18}} mid thing started but I assume some higher elo players started doing it. Iv'e been playing {{champion:222}} mid and its actually pretty good. Depending on the matchup and what the team needs I can be a high level adc or I can build lethality and go assassin. Building lethality allows me to zone my burst assassin lane opponent since Zap has a farther range than my autos. Outside of lane I chunk squishy champions such as the enemy adc, the support, or the midlaner for lots of hp. People should really give it a try.
: Is it me, or Jinx is too much of a carry?
I main {{champion:222}} and she is a pretty good champion but compared to other adc's she gets completely destroyed by assassins more so than others due to her lack of mobility, If you have like a {{champion:91}}, {{champion:141}}, or especially {{champion:28}} she has rely on her team to protect her and in team fights you can zone her completely from the fight from fear of being blown up, if she attempts to deal damage in the fight you can easily one shot her because she has nothing to get you off her. If she uses chompers simply dodge it, run around it, or the most annoying thing to deal with as a {{champion:222}} main is {{item:3814}} or {{item:3102}} if you are ap. For example: Iv'e had {{champion:91}} stand in front of me in a bush and I knew he was there and everyone on my team went to fight the teamfight and I tried to join them but every time I attempted to walk out of the bush {{champion:91}} would approach zoning me from the fight. Once 2-3 people died because I couldn't deal damage he joined the rest of the fight and they killed everyone. In a game an assassin can change a tank role from engaging a teamfight to peeling for {{champion:222}} If the tank engages rather than peels Jinx you can easily kill her and if the tank doesn't engage and chooses to peel for her you can probably kill the rest of their team easier since they have no engage. Also going through wall with the champs mentioned earlier are an easy way to get on {{champion:222}} rather than just run up on her. Other adc's {{champion:18}}, {{champion:67}}, {{champion:236}}, {{champion:81}}, {{champion:51}}, can get away or cc you, {{champion:67}} could pin you to the wall and or roll and or ult with it but {{champion:222}} is a sitting duck.
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rujitra (NA)
: Well, the bottom line is that unless you're a troll, trolls are 20% more likely to be on the enemy team than on your team. So trying to claim you don't climb because of trolls is an invalid argument. And like I said, if he did run it down for 3 deaths, he would virtually certainly be punished right now. There have been multiple people who've come to the boards complaining of "wrong" intentional feeding bans who did less than what you claim this player did in your game. Thus there's two possibilities - they were punished and you simply don't know, or you are exaggerating their behavior.
I never said I can't climb because of trolls. I'm just saying they are ruining the game. It just so happens he was a smurf, i'm saying trolls are ruining the game because they aren't getting banned. When a player u reported gets punished, you get a notification. It's clear that his particular player is a troll and not getting banned because I have not got any notification of his punishment and the purpose of his smurf is to troll.
rujitra (NA)
: So... he said that... and you know he wasn't lying to piss you off how? Players lie about being smurfs all the time. Regardless, it's not his fault his MMR is inaccurate. What do you want him to do about it, go into the super convenient "edit my MMR tool"? Maybe if he actually was a diamond Smurf you guys should've listened to his shotcalling and tried to play around him. And no, you saying it's "clearly obvious" does not mean it's true. I can say it's "clearly obvious" to me that vaccines cause autism. Still not true.
I don't understand why you won't believe what I am saying and keep doubting every thing say I say. There isn't even a point in trying to say anything anymore. That like having an argument with someone on the best decision to make and then they say "what if something worse happens" and completely ruins your logical argument.
rujitra (NA)
: Nothing you've stated is indicative of a Smurf or a troll, except "running it down", but given recent reports, he would've been punished for that if it's true. Thus, you must either be exaggerating or leaving out details. You are merely attempting to find some reason to explain your lack of climbing other than your own skill level.
I'm not dumb, it's clearly obvious if you were in the match. I told him to stop trolling on his smurf it ruins the game for others and he said that he was diamond and was playing on the account because it was fun and didn't care if we won or lost. I just want to have a normal game but each game a player finds a new way to try and troll the match. Not kidding.
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: Your last game was about 10 days ago, unless you're playing on a different account. You make posts every few days complaining about bad teammates or others who are out to make you lose. And yet, on your match history (on the only account I can see), you've won a huge majority of your matches in recent times. What's going on here?
I'm playing on smurf trying to get it to gold along with my other account and am having a really bad time with teammates right now especially with the supports I have been getting. As I type this I have a lee sin support and have said nothing to him and letting him play it but it turns out he is actually inting. As soon as we spawned in game with home guards hes running it down mid, I gave him benefit of the doubt too and didn't dodge. I just dced from the game telling them to attempt to remake so my team can remake. I'm actually tired of this shit. I was letting him play lee sin support no complaints and i never typed anything in chat an now he running it down mid un provoked. Hope my team can remake and I am not punished for this. It really saddens me how low quality this game has gotten.
rujitra (NA)
: Yes actually, they do. It's not "the ADC's CS". You don't own it. Period. Supports need gold too - a support item is not enough gold for even building only supporting items - they wanna get a bit of damage? Hell no it's not enough gold. Get off your high horse and your toxic attitude that the support has to be your bitch and do exactly what you say and want. And no, ADC items are not the most expensive in the game. Maybe you should reconsider your build. Do you also not realize that Sona can't control who her Q hits? She tries to push/poke and it kills some minions so you get tilted at her? Go play top lane where you can just hold your own instead of having teammates tilt you. Lastly, you tilted yourself out of CS. You will ALWAYS do more damage than the support to minions overall because even their abilities that may do more damage than your basic attacks have longer CD than your autos. So your lack of CS is more a problem with your skill in farming than anything else. And yeah, of course if you didn't help Sona poke them they got ahead. TLDR: Your toxic attitude is the problem.
I can understand if it's later on in the game but a support shouldn't be taking my cs from the second the match start minutes into the game pushing the wave a support having 22 cs wont make as much as difference compared to me have all 22 plus the all the cs I have already acquired. You are absolutely delusional if you think a support should be attempting to have half or as much cs as I have during laning phase. You have your own method of getting cs with a support item. At that point might as well buy a dorans ring i you want to farm. Literally trolling flaming and taking my cs isn't helping anybody or the team. There isn't even a toxic attitude it's just straight facts. What you don't understand was he wasn't taking cs because he thought it was beneficial. He was taking cs to troll me cause he was tilted. There is a huge difference in justification in taking cs. Almost having a completed support item 4 minutes earlier isn't going to make more of a difference that me having a fully completed Infinity during lane phase when u already have a frost fang to ward for example. We could either get fed with my item advantage or stay even with the enemy adc kill pressure wise if I have gold to buy my items. Also pressing Q to take and damage cs makes me miss it be cause the minions focus multiple at once and q early on does more damage than an auto attack and comes out instantly
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: Yes, marksmen are one of the more homogenous classes. I'd also say tanks... The marksmen update had a goal of adding more diversity to the group, with mixed results. What would you change?
I'm not an expert on balance, but I know that adc's are supposed to do more damage over time and it can be hard to add more interactive and unique game play with this requirement. What i'd probably want to see if it could be implemented correctly is to add more interactive abilities and passives. For example {{champion:51}} is supposed to be a sniper but she plays like shes a wielding a long range machine gun. Maybe they could make her shots slower but her attacks do more damage and can penetrate enemies.
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ThreshHub (EUNE)
: Why take away his undying ultimate and kill his champion identity like they did with aatrox instead of just fucking removing his rng passive.
My suggestion doesn't take his undying passive away. Thinking about it, Tryndamere and Aatrox both have common similar but different theme in their kits. They both revolve around being harder to kill and dying. It is hard to give him an ultimate that is not too similar to Aatrox's. Giving him an ultimate that gives him hyper resistance still fits the "get mad don't die" theme in Tryndamere's kit. Just a better alternative to brainless "I click r and I get mad so I can't die" and face rolls everbody.
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Zardo (NA)
: Honestly- If he gets even a little bit ahead and gets EON you can't really peel him off your AD until both you and your AD get items. You'll need {{summoner:3}} {{item:3190}} {{item:3109}} and them to get {{summoner:7}}{{item:3046}} {{item:3026}}{{item:3047}} to reliably save them as a tank. They'll have to have either GA or phantom dancer + heal off CD and you'll want locket and exhaust off CD. If they're not off cd, play extremely far back on the map.
I'm not trying to cry "op please nerf" or anything but if rengar is able to cause a character to change build paths by multiple items by being in the game isn't that a little too much? I never build phantom dancer and never tabi's on any of the adc's I play ({{champion:222}} and {{champion:18}}) . I always use {{item:3085}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3006}} and ga isn't really worth to have till last item. Even after building these items on both me any my support I still have a small change to live while my team attempts to peel him? By building these items i'm more useful against rengar but less useful to the team overall. My power spike comes from {{item:3031}} , {{item:3085}} and {{item:3080}} is an added bounus. If I get {{item:3031}} then build {{item:3046}} then {{item:3026}} solely because rengar is in the game my team effectiveness is over all lower and once ga passive is popped I have a useless item.
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zPOOPz (NA)
: I thought 10+ game _**winstreak**_ means you win 10 or more games consecutively. > ulted me to keep me from getting cs He never once ulted you to keep you from cs-ing. You had never been in his ult the entire game because you were never with the team the entire game. > the only thing he did was go around stealing kills and taking cs so it looks like he wasnt trolling He at least was participating in team fights. You never once come to ANY team fight or even fight at all. 3 or 4 times you died "split push" bot and top all the way to their turret with ZERO ward all along your inner turret up to the enemy 1st turret. Gave up 3 or 4 kills this way. You avoided ALL team fights just cs-ing bot and top lane...dying in the process because zero wards while your allies fighting elsewhere. While I agree he does look kind of trolly and taking the red buff twice was pretty deliberate (he waited to smite them), he was not very actively trying to take your cs (he took some I agree). He could had taken a lot more with that smite of his and he seemed to be half focusing on poking the bot lane (taking cs is NOT against the rules). While you were focusing on your "split push" and dying without bother to put down any ward all along the way and avoided team fights at all cost, he was with the team. I agree he probably should be reviewed hard for trolling and griefing, but I feel your conducts that game should probably be reviewed for trolling and griefing as well.
Why are u playing devils advocate? He literally trolled my game. Dude he LITERALLY tried to take my cs did you read the chat logs with what he said? Did you see him wait for the cs to get low to take it? He stood there waiting and when they got low he Q'd for it. Nobody else in the lane just me and him he would wait it down. I just split pushed the rest of the game trying to stay relevant. Toward the end it became pointless. If you are not in the game you don't know the full story.
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: well since they are smurfs they arnt meant to be in that elo they are much better than the rest of the people in that game so its very easy for them. The reason they get out of those elos is simply because they just better at the game. People say do this do that play this play that but in reality the way you climb is just getting better at the game and the way to do that is keeping a clear head tilting only makes you play worse and makes it much more difficult to criticize yourself. by the few things you've listed I can tell you are by no means a bad player you have a good understanding on what you need to do so maybe what your issue is is how you play fights out like Are you CCing the right target? Are you building optimally for that game? Are you setting up your runes to help you best for that game? Are you keeping a close eye on your carry(s) make sure they dont gave jumped on (good tip that i do if I'm playing a tank that isnt amazing at peeling a carry is i buy a {{item:3109}} for them if they dont have one already {{item:3190}} is a very under rated item and only seen as a item for supports) Are you layering your CC and not stacking CC on top of eachother? Are you positioning correctly? some advice looking at your recent games with {{champion:222}} yes Lethality Jinx is fun but its not the best way you can play her she is one of the BEST adcs at consistent DPS if you get ahead with jinx going attack speed crit is FAR FAR FAAAR more useful to the team than a fed lethality jinx
Yea i'm aware that regular is better than lethality. I have 800k mastery on Jinx. The only way I could fight midlaners like zed and katerina was buy keeping them out of ultimate range. I was playing bot and kept staying in the same spot climbing wise so I tried lethality Jinx mid knowing I could play mid better than a lot of the other mid lane mains in silver. I decided now to go bot again, mute everyone and try relying on myself and see where it goes.
Teh Song (NA)
: Best advice youre going to get: When thinking about why you lose stop thinking about anything that shifts blame to your teammates.
ok, thats more like a tip im looking for advice on what to do. More than half these things I can't execute alone.
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: BECAUSE BOY YOU DON'T HAVE THE M O N E Y !
OMG LOL! Someone in one of my games told me to watch that video and I was dying!
usul1202 (NA)
: Listen, if you're having a good time and looking to enjoy your game, it's not so bad that it prevents that, so you do you. If you're looking to climb I think you're gimping yourself with it since your pick lacks the ability to abuse a level advantage, doesn't have priority target damage to deal with a fed opponent, and doesn't play to a lot of win conditions, but also that won't be abused in lower elos. So if you're enjoying your games... Whatever floats your boat I guess?
Dude with the level advantage I get A LOT out of it, you wouldn't imagine. I have full control over the lane and can kill the person ganking my lane and 1 shot the adc.
: try playing that jinx as a roaming support strat, I bet the boards would love it then.
No, I have sense enough not do that. But I will admit I played it support once and built ancient coin and lethality items. I got draven a double kill first blood and we snowballed the lane hard against a lux and Kai'sa. This was a ranked game too and not a normals.
vyoda (NA)
: Not sure why people are downvoting you... It sounds like you know what you’re doing and have had significant success. Isn’t there a Challenger {{champion:53}} Top main? And yet the boards are so often hostile towards off-meta builds, even when it’s a legit strat and not trolling
My friend who was one of those people that kept denying everything I said, and then he got in a few games with me and realized it does work he said, but once I get to plat it probably won't anymore. Even that though ill take it as acknowledgement that is actually pretty good. Now he lets me play it mid.
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Myrmiron (EUW)
: Your way of thinking is what's keeping you hardstuck in silver for the 4th season in a row even after 500+ games this season alone. Yes, those players are your equals, they're just as hardstuck as you. You just have to get better, then your teammates will become better as well.
I started in season 5 and took a break for like 2 seasons. How could i be hardstuck for 4 seasons? Iv'e know about the game and have been playing for 4 seasons. I never started playing ranked till season 6 and 7 and there was a long period of inactivity between then and now.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eHp1VY3V,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-13T17:49:38.037+0000) > > Lol I get critized for that too but I literally threw the crap out of the game, that was literally entirely my bad. Look at all the other good games though rather than just my flaws. I'm not saying I am diamond, but I am at least gold 5. There are gold players who enter my game that have such poor judgement I feel insulted that I am silver. > > Btw do you wanna duo with me? lol Yeah feel free to add me I’ll be on after work.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eHp1VY3V,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-13T17:33:41.733+0000) > > No way, its easy to say that as a commentor on the boards. It's not like my skill level is to carry 3-4 dead weight players consistently but it is not silver rank. How can a system that punishes players equally if they lose be a true indicator of skill? Statistics "you are common factor in everyone of your games" blah but bad teammates could very well be a players issue and they could be pretty good but not good enough to solo carry a game (not saying its my own problem). This kind of mindset (hehe just solo carry a game ez your bad if you can't) is such a toxic mindset this community has. > > Tbh, this is kind of off topic but going along with statistics, Ryze has a 45% winrate. This would mean that ryze probably needs some buffs. BUT, in the hands of pros he is really good and would be op if he is buffed. > > How can statistics like "common factor" and "winrate" actually mean anything in scenarios like these? Because if you have the capacity to be better than silver you will be hard carrying your games consistently and out performing your lane opponent on a consistent basis. You can’t win every match and you will not always get good players but if you are able to perform at a level above silver then your impact game over game will see you climb. At the current time your ingame performance shows that you struggle to win lane against your opponent who is also a silver player meaning you do not deserve to climb but remain at your current rank. The toxic part of this community is people like yourself who instead of try to self improve they externalize there problems like come on dude you play lethality jinx mid with comet consistently , you are not goIng to climb playing like that.
Lol I get critized for that too but I literally threw the crap out of the game, that was literally entirely my bad. Look at all the other good games though rather than just my flaws. I'm not saying I am diamond, but I am at least gold 5. There are gold players who enter my game that have such poor judgement I feel insulted that I am silver. Btw do you wanna duo with me? lol
mack9112 (NA)
: You are describing the skill level of a silver player. You are a silver player. What is the problem?
No way, its easy to say that as a commentor on the boards. It's not like my skill level is to carry 3-4 dead weight players consistently but it is not silver rank. How can a system that punishes players equally if they lose be a true indicator of skill? Statistics "you are common factor in everyone of your games" blah but bad teammates could very well be a players issue and they could be pretty good but not good enough to solo carry a game (not saying its my own problem). This kind of mindset (hehe just solo carry a game ez your bad if you can't) is such a toxic mindset this community has. Tbh, this is kind of off topic but going along with statistics, Ryze has a 45% winrate. This would mean that ryze probably needs some buffs. BUT, in the hands of pros he is really good and would be op if he is buffed. How can statistics like "common factor" and "winrate" actually mean anything in scenarios like these?
: Were they being flamed? People have bad games, and if you start flaming them for losing lane, then that typically just makes them play worse.
: Define "boosted". Because the "bad players" could be very good on their champs but have terrible macro, etc. It's possible to climb, to a point, using a single thing you are very good at without improving anything else.
I put the "" around boosted because it isn't that they are boosted, they are just a higher rank than their actual skill level displayed is.
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: You do know that he has around a 48% WR, right?
oh crap, we better buff him
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: you play jinx and build lethality items on her jinx is an attack speed + crit item ADC {{item:3031}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3095}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3080}} {{item:3006}} are the kind of items you should be building on her
I know that, I main jinx adc but people kept feeding so I thought to myself "might as well play her mid" and have still been winning lane but people keep feeding the game early. I thought if I played my main mid I could stop mid from feeding but bot lane now feeds in my place. The lethality build is not the problem, its the fact that the other lanes are getting screwed over so hard so early in all my games and its so disappointing. Since you are looking at my match history click the games and look at my teammates deaths.
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