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zPOOPz (NA)
: I thought 10+ game _**winstreak**_ means you win 10 or more games consecutively. > ulted me to keep me from getting cs He never once ulted you to keep you from cs-ing. You had never been in his ult the entire game because you were never with the team the entire game. > the only thing he did was go around stealing kills and taking cs so it looks like he wasnt trolling He at least was participating in team fights. You never once come to ANY team fight or even fight at all. 3 or 4 times you died "split push" bot and top all the way to their turret with ZERO ward all along your inner turret up to the enemy 1st turret. Gave up 3 or 4 kills this way. You avoided ALL team fights just cs-ing bot and top lane...dying in the process because zero wards while your allies fighting elsewhere. While I agree he does look kind of trolly and taking the red buff twice was pretty deliberate (he waited to smite them), he was not very actively trying to take your cs (he took some I agree). He could had taken a lot more with that smite of his and he seemed to be half focusing on poking the bot lane (taking cs is NOT against the rules). While you were focusing on your "split push" and dying without bother to put down any ward all along the way and avoided team fights at all cost, he was with the team. I agree he probably should be reviewed hard for trolling and griefing, but I feel your conducts that game should probably be reviewed for trolling and griefing as well.
Why are u playing devils advocate? He literally trolled my game. Dude he LITERALLY tried to take my cs did you read the chat logs with what he said? Did you see him wait for the cs to get low to take it? He stood there waiting and when they got low he Q'd for it. Nobody else in the lane just me and him he would wait it down. I just split pushed the rest of the game trying to stay relevant. Toward the end it became pointless. If you are not in the game you don't know the full story.
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: well since they are smurfs they arnt meant to be in that elo they are much better than the rest of the people in that game so its very easy for them. The reason they get out of those elos is simply because they just better at the game. People say do this do that play this play that but in reality the way you climb is just getting better at the game and the way to do that is keeping a clear head tilting only makes you play worse and makes it much more difficult to criticize yourself. by the few things you've listed I can tell you are by no means a bad player you have a good understanding on what you need to do so maybe what your issue is is how you play fights out like Are you CCing the right target? Are you building optimally for that game? Are you setting up your runes to help you best for that game? Are you keeping a close eye on your carry(s) make sure they dont gave jumped on (good tip that i do if I'm playing a tank that isnt amazing at peeling a carry is i buy a {{item:3109}} for them if they dont have one already {{item:3190}} is a very under rated item and only seen as a item for supports) Are you layering your CC and not stacking CC on top of eachother? Are you positioning correctly? some advice looking at your recent games with {{champion:222}} yes Lethality Jinx is fun but its not the best way you can play her she is one of the BEST adcs at consistent DPS if you get ahead with jinx going attack speed crit is FAR FAR FAAAR more useful to the team than a fed lethality jinx
Yea i'm aware that regular is better than lethality. I have 800k mastery on Jinx. The only way I could fight midlaners like zed and katerina was buy keeping them out of ultimate range. I was playing bot and kept staying in the same spot climbing wise so I tried lethality Jinx mid knowing I could play mid better than a lot of the other mid lane mains in silver. I decided now to go bot again, mute everyone and try relying on myself and see where it goes.
Teh Song (NA)
: Best advice youre going to get: When thinking about why you lose stop thinking about anything that shifts blame to your teammates.
ok, thats more like a tip im looking for advice on what to do. More than half these things I can't execute alone.
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: BECAUSE BOY YOU DON'T HAVE THE M O N E Y !
OMG LOL! Someone in one of my games told me to watch that video and I was dying!
usul1202 (NA)
: Listen, if you're having a good time and looking to enjoy your game, it's not so bad that it prevents that, so you do you. If you're looking to climb I think you're gimping yourself with it since your pick lacks the ability to abuse a level advantage, doesn't have priority target damage to deal with a fed opponent, and doesn't play to a lot of win conditions, but also that won't be abused in lower elos. So if you're enjoying your games... Whatever floats your boat I guess?
Dude with the level advantage I get A LOT out of it, you wouldn't imagine. I have full control over the lane and can kill the person ganking my lane and 1 shot the adc.
: try playing that jinx as a roaming support strat, I bet the boards would love it then.
No, I have sense enough not do that. But I will admit I played it support once and built ancient coin and lethality items. I got draven a double kill first blood and we snowballed the lane hard against a lux and Kai'sa. This was a ranked game too and not a normals.
vyoda (NA)
: Not sure why people are downvoting you... It sounds like you know what you’re doing and have had significant success. Isn’t there a Challenger {{champion:53}} Top main? And yet the boards are so often hostile towards off-meta builds, even when it’s a legit strat and not trolling
My friend who was one of those people that kept denying everything I said, and then he got in a few games with me and realized it does work he said, but once I get to plat it probably won't anymore. Even that though ill take it as acknowledgement that is actually pretty good. Now he lets me play it mid.
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Myrmiron (EUW)
: Your way of thinking is what's keeping you hardstuck in silver for the 4th season in a row even after 500+ games this season alone. Yes, those players are your equals, they're just as hardstuck as you. You just have to get better, then your teammates will become better as well.
I started in season 5 and took a break for like 2 seasons. How could i be hardstuck for 4 seasons? Iv'e know about the game and have been playing for 4 seasons. I never started playing ranked till season 6 and 7 and there was a long period of inactivity between then and now.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eHp1VY3V,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-13T17:49:38.037+0000) > > Lol I get critized for that too but I literally threw the crap out of the game, that was literally entirely my bad. Look at all the other good games though rather than just my flaws. I'm not saying I am diamond, but I am at least gold 5. There are gold players who enter my game that have such poor judgement I feel insulted that I am silver. > > Btw do you wanna duo with me? lol Yeah feel free to add me I’ll be on after work.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eHp1VY3V,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-13T17:33:41.733+0000) > > No way, its easy to say that as a commentor on the boards. It's not like my skill level is to carry 3-4 dead weight players consistently but it is not silver rank. How can a system that punishes players equally if they lose be a true indicator of skill? Statistics "you are common factor in everyone of your games" blah but bad teammates could very well be a players issue and they could be pretty good but not good enough to solo carry a game (not saying its my own problem). This kind of mindset (hehe just solo carry a game ez your bad if you can't) is such a toxic mindset this community has. > > Tbh, this is kind of off topic but going along with statistics, Ryze has a 45% winrate. This would mean that ryze probably needs some buffs. BUT, in the hands of pros he is really good and would be op if he is buffed. > > How can statistics like "common factor" and "winrate" actually mean anything in scenarios like these? Because if you have the capacity to be better than silver you will be hard carrying your games consistently and out performing your lane opponent on a consistent basis. You can’t win every match and you will not always get good players but if you are able to perform at a level above silver then your impact game over game will see you climb. At the current time your ingame performance shows that you struggle to win lane against your opponent who is also a silver player meaning you do not deserve to climb but remain at your current rank. The toxic part of this community is people like yourself who instead of try to self improve they externalize there problems like come on dude you play lethality jinx mid with comet consistently , you are not goIng to climb playing like that.
Lol I get critized for that too but I literally threw the crap out of the game, that was literally entirely my bad. Look at all the other good games though rather than just my flaws. I'm not saying I am diamond, but I am at least gold 5. There are gold players who enter my game that have such poor judgement I feel insulted that I am silver. Btw do you wanna duo with me? lol
mack9112 (NA)
: You are describing the skill level of a silver player. You are a silver player. What is the problem?
No way, its easy to say that as a commentor on the boards. It's not like my skill level is to carry 3-4 dead weight players consistently but it is not silver rank. How can a system that punishes players equally if they lose be a true indicator of skill? Statistics "you are common factor in everyone of your games" blah but bad teammates could very well be a players issue and they could be pretty good but not good enough to solo carry a game (not saying its my own problem). This kind of mindset (hehe just solo carry a game ez your bad if you can't) is such a toxic mindset this community has. Tbh, this is kind of off topic but going along with statistics, Ryze has a 45% winrate. This would mean that ryze probably needs some buffs. BUT, in the hands of pros he is really good and would be op if he is buffed. How can statistics like "common factor" and "winrate" actually mean anything in scenarios like these?
: Were they being flamed? People have bad games, and if you start flaming them for losing lane, then that typically just makes them play worse.
: Define "boosted". Because the "bad players" could be very good on their champs but have terrible macro, etc. It's possible to climb, to a point, using a single thing you are very good at without improving anything else.
I put the "" around boosted because it isn't that they are boosted, they are just a higher rank than their actual skill level displayed is.
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: You do know that he has around a 48% WR, right?
oh crap, we better buff him
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: you play jinx and build lethality items on her jinx is an attack speed + crit item ADC {{item:3031}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3095}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3080}} {{item:3006}} are the kind of items you should be building on her
I know that, I main jinx adc but people kept feeding so I thought to myself "might as well play her mid" and have still been winning lane but people keep feeding the game early. I thought if I played my main mid I could stop mid from feeding but bot lane now feeds in my place. The lethality build is not the problem, its the fact that the other lanes are getting screwed over so hard so early in all my games and its so disappointing. Since you are looking at my match history click the games and look at my teammates deaths.
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: Thank you Duff... wew lad... {{sticker:sg-zephyr}} OP... look at opgg. Look at lolalytics, look at any LoL data collection site. Wanna know why there is no data on Jinx mid much less a lethality Jinx build on any of the sites? Because people at large realize that both are TERRIBLE ideas and don't do them in the first place. This is some Iron tier, no, dryer lint tier playing... You might have all these kills and farm, but you're in a lane where your champion has less of an impact on objectives, and using all your gold building in ways that don't help your team win. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
lol, ill accept it is bad for team reasons. But will you PLEASE just understand I don't even have a chance to see what problems this build has because there is no game to begin with. Top and bot lane haven't been present for the past 20 games and have been feeding like the whole world is starving. It's not like we are playing a winning game and we lost because we have 2 back lines or any other problem this build has. We are literally losing because the other lanes are dying 5+ times pre ten minute mark regardless of what I have been choosing. That's the whole reason I started playing lethality Jinx mid, the games never had a chance to begin with.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mavëríck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AUsFwEKj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-10T21:09:50.883+0000) > > Wow... AND you're playing Jinx mid... no fucking wonder you're losing. Somebody out there please take over here I can't even anymore... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Easy...easy there. Have some aspirin. I'll do my best. {{sticker:sg-soraka}} @ OP You really are the problem here. Off meta picks are one thing, but expecting your team, especially in Silver, to know how to adjust for that and fill in the gaps your Jinx mid creates for the team at large is asking way too much of the average player, which 90% of the LoL community across the world is Silver 1 and below, hence average. I'm sure your auto attacks with that build chunk hp bars like a champ, but you've got no attack speed to take advantage of it, Jinx's abilities aren't huge assassin tools like Talon Rake or Zed shuriken that can be turned into a fast burst combo, which is what your build is for. Jinx is a right click adc that needs attack speed and crits because she is designed for sustain damage. Everyone can see what you're trying to do, but it just doesn't work because of the champion pick. Add in that you're running an immobile adc in midlane where therre are 6 good gankable zones on your right and left and you've got a recipe for disaster. Lucian works mid because he has the dash and can escape while he lane bullies. Jinx does not.
We are WAY past that problem. Before my pick could even affect the team they have already died 5 times each lane in the first 10 minutes. I don't even have a chance to negatively affect the game if my pick even does have any problems. Btw, if you think {{champion:222}} is just for auto attacking add me on league, spectate a game, and or join a custom with me, play lux and let me hit you with a zap and my ultimate and show u what it can do with only 2 core items i'm serious btw lol
: Wow... AND you're playing Jinx mid... no fucking wonder you're losing. Somebody out there please take over here I can't even anymore... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
I thought I was making it clear that I was playing {{champion:222}} mid. This does so much for the team, I provide cc 2 shot the squishies and my ult kills at half health on squishy targets. I poke the enemy out from the tower and we siege in games where the top or bot lane can actually play the game. Imagine what a lux would do if she is trying to siege a tower but the enemy team is underneath it
: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AUsFwEKj,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-10T20:55:30.337+0000) > My build of {{item:3142}} {{item:3158}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3042}} on {{champion:222}} is not the problem because this was still happening when I just went regular adc bot lane and i'm doing a lot for the team. We still get an adc anyway. > > I was silver 1 100 lp now im silver 3 43 lp I like how I called you out rightfully for INTENTIONALLY building incorrectly and gimping the damage of your adc choice. You are first and foremost losing because you don't play your champion choices to their strengths, meaning you're not playing them optimally, meaning YOU are becoming the biggest amount of dead weight to your team regardless of if they feed. If you are good enough to get all this gold to afford all these items consistently, then you should already have a huge leg up by buying the proper items for your champion to carry, and create more comebacks or snowballs. You seem to think that building items that aren't optimal for your champion is something that can be overcome with simple "skill" and it's just not fucking true. I would genuinely feel for you and try to help you if you weren't so blatantly choosing to do badly and then having the fucking gall to blame anyone but yourself. Enjoy Silver. You deserve it.
Look at my games. I am playing mid, we have any adc, we need burst. Problem is the adc isn't even present. So you are saying people can build lethality {{champion:21}} and its fine but I can't build lethality {{champion:222}} when we already have an adc and need burst damage? Your logic is flawed. It legit works. Your the type of person who would see Sneaky play this and be like "this build works {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} " I can only win my lane BECAUSE I am building these items
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: > [{quoted}](name=coreym11,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AW8hn8Wh,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-10T06:18:03.817+0000) > > Just because I win my lane doesn't mean I should win the game but it gets so tiring after a while. When I come out of my lane with 2-3 kills and good amount of cs, I come out of lane to a fully fed enemy team and everyone besides me is behind. I try to hold out they game as best I can but its too much. When we have the opportunity to win after a baron all we have to do is group and do one last push but people decide to farm an enemy jungle camp and get caught, then for some reason the rest of the team follows the person who just died into a losing battle and im sitting at mid tower pinging people to group mid so I just watch as the base is destroyed. I played one game where I went 0/5 veigar mid and did terrible in lane but still won cause everyone else did great. It's so annoying that I do well plenty of times and the won game I play horribly I get an undeserved win. > > I feel like if I was placed higher I think I could play well in the higher elo but I just cant climb out of cancer silver rank. I was silver 1 100 lp now i'm silver 2 3 lp. Before anyone says coinflip elo; https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/218734076 Building fucking pure lethality Jinx with no attack speed or crit every game without fail. Patently wrong builds for the champion they are spamming.
LOL YEA its a joke, I can literally play mid lane and do better than bot lane and top lane and get fed. The build actually works too so stop being a hater. Look at the rest of my teams and you tell me that lethality jinx caused us to lose the game.
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: CORRECT. At least a bullet hell gives you a *chance* to avoid the bullets. Of course, given that the OP is an ADC main, you and I are both probably about the get downvoted to oblivion.
I'm not saying mages are bad and need to be nerfed in general, im saying that something needs to be done about them going bot lane. What you are talking about is late game. You were never right clicked to death and harassed by an ad champ (unless you were losing lane pretty severely) in bot lane. Let mages throw skill shots and be forced to dodge them everywhere else, just keep them out of bot lane. Later in the game, you should be right clicked to death by an adc champion thats just what they do.
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: Nope. Why punish people that don't play ranked by sticking toxic players there? Get them the fuck out of the game **period**.
I see what you are saying, guess they should impose just harsher regular bans on players in general.
: then they will just be toxic in norms
better than in ranked where the games actually matter more. People are actually way toxic in norms to my surprise.
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coreym11 (NA)
: Can jinx have an ap scaling on zap? Or can zap crit again like it did on the PBE?
I didn't say to buff her if you read the post instead of just the title
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Kuponya (NA)
: Based on your match history, you're just as bad as these people you complain about
> [{quoted}](name=Kuponya,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kqyETVut,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:10:49.110+0000) > > Based on your match history, you're just as bad as these people you complain about What are u even talking about? Your probably one of the people I was playing with if you are saying that. My stats are molded by how they did in the early game and even then it excels theirs by a margin. You can clearly see if you looked further than my most recent 3 games that were absolute shit shows that what you just said is absolute bullshit
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