: > [{quoted}](name=cuddlykitten4,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8elWnQK3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T04:19:22.401+0000) > > You won't skip any divisions due to winning streaks. How do u skip ranks then?
> [{quoted}](name=Blitz Ballista,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8elWnQK3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:38:50.333+0000) > > How do u skip ranks then? I'm pretty sure the only way to do that is to be playing at a god level compared to the MMR you are placed in. If you aren't smurfing then you'll probably have to run each division. I might be wrong about that though.
LBmyBB (NA)
: Pyke is a mechanically braindead champion
He telegraphs his hook and dash though (Q and E?). The trick to Pyke is the same as counter playing a Zed or LB. Know where they'll be before they decide to go there. They can't afford to be caught off guard. Most of them will make predictable plays if you set them up. Think of it like a lux Q. Lux is much more likely to miss if you intentionally walk into the open to give her a free one. You will have a plan of escape ready to go on a moment's notice. Bait out Pyke's plays and catch him a step behind you. Most champs that you will feel are "unfair" are usually counterplayed in that fashion. Except Solid Snake. If you see him just go afk.
: How to jump ranks
You won't skip any divisions due to winning streaks.
: Bronze matched against Diamond
There is no quid pro quo in the EULA. They don't have to give you anything in return for what they require of you to have an account such as not being toxic or going afk. They don't have to make it fair or fun. You are voluntarily playing a game in which all cash transactions are voluntary and in no way required to benefit, begin, or continue the service. You agree to terms of service. The account they give you is the trade off they make. Say you're in someone's house. They don't have to guarantee you will have a fun and fair time, or accommodate you in any way, in order to expect you to follow the rules of the house. You follow the rules or get kicked out. It's their house, it's their rules, and all technical correctness would be in their court.
: Is Kill Stealing a Thing?
I mean, it can have slight affects on teamfights depending on who has how much gold in what role, but ultimately, screw what they say. If you don't get the kill and the enemy flashes away only becuase you were letting an ally get the kill then they'd blame you for that too. Do what you honestly believe will get the win. Anyone whining about KS is probably someone who can't stand the idea that maybe, just maybe, that game they won't be the guy everyone is saying "oh wow, you carried us so hard" to. It's almost exclusively an ego trip.
: > [{quoted}](name=cuddlykitten4,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w4V8o1HH,comment-id=00020000000300000000,timestamp=2019-05-02T03:29:44.552+0000) > > At no point has the claim that it's the only way to be good in solo que been made. It has been claimed to be the most affective way to affect LOWER TIER solo que. That's still not a false claim tho, as Riot has legitimate data spanning over a decade to reference to. It would fall under, again, a hypothesis. They are getting the idea from a logical source. It is both testable and can be verified as false. Applying it to the patch would qualify as the experiment. Self-fulfilling prophecies do not have an experiment. They have only claim and result. What Riot is doing is quantitative in nature. It can't have a self fulfilling prophecy. They aren't altering a behavior with it. They are altering a statistic to attempt to achieve a desired result. They believe the buff, or variable, will alter the game, or constant, in the way they desire. This is an experiment. The buff is a hypothesis. When they get the data in, they will form a theory. > > I'll save you some time by correcting your tiers there: > > False perception is actually hypothesis. > > Prophecy resulting is experiment results. > > Result is the resulting theory that would be developed upon arrival of the final statistics of the experiment, regardless of whether desired results were achieved or not. > > All the things you put after the colons are honestly just your own perception of how you want to take the situation and what riot says. Word of advice, leave the assumptions at home. They work against your credibility. Okay, you’re right - I’ll concede on this point. That said, I still absolutely believe tanks can be effective in all elos without the source of their power focusing on damage. In fact, they have been strong in solo queue, especially in the jungle in season 2, parts of season 3, and season 4 - and their focus was entirely on being tanky and disruptive with little damage. Things have obviously changed but we have seen solo lane tanks thrive on attrition rather than through overtune damage (not that riot attempts that). I don’t see why we can’t get back to that point.
Because that point was already explained. You just didn't catch it. They buffed dmg because his issue is dominantly in the lower tier. If they buff his utility and tank stats, it will have the undesired result of mega buffing him in the upper tiers. They're not trying to buff Maokai himself, they're trying to buff him in a specific tier. A straight dmg buff really only affects those who don't have as many outplay tactics. A longer root, however, effectively reduces outplay potential across the board. I do a lot of card mechanic stuff so I understand card statistics. I'll attempt to relate them. In Blackjack if you were to raise it to 22 rather than 21 what would happen is you slightly make it easier for someone who isn't as familiar with the game win a small percentage more.....but as someone who both can count cards and stack decks, I would clean someone out exponentially better with just that one number increase. People who know the inner workings can abuse much smaller changes to much greater result. I hope that made sense because I'm not sure if I explained that very well.
: No. That is all. If you want someone to understand you, you need to learn the basic. This isn't on me, regardless of your opinion. Ignoring your next response. Actually, just you in general. Good day.
I don't care if anyone understands me. XD If you don't, I simply find it amusing that you take stuff so seriously. If you do, then we have some laughs together or whatever. Kind of arrogant on your part to think I'm worried about how you take the things I say. Like now, even after we have established that I was being sarcastic, and that I in no way take any of this seriously, you are still trying to take it seriously. Like I said further up, you just want to be upset and argumentative. Why on Earth would I care to appease someone like that? How high is that horse man?
: Inverse PBE Please Riot
This concept would split too many people across ques and would result in not enough data to patch future patches. That's the reason they take away the RGM during mid season, so they can get full data by not having people break off into the RGM since mid season tends to be bigger changes.
: Then use /s like any other common individual. Don't assume people know exactly what you're thinking or how you're saying it. Not that complex.
No. You can learn to identify sarcasm, or you can choose to take everything to heart and be hateful. I'm not altering what I do to please you. I don't care if you get upset or not. Your emotions are 100% on you, and affect only you. So, again, get off that high horse....or don't. It only affects you.
: > [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gbNtdly9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-02T02:47:33.614+0000) > > I never heard of it and it's probably not in Massachusetts so I'm not going to. Imagine the best companies you've never heard of in the world. Do you think they are all in Massachusetts? Do you NEED the school to be in Massachusetts? If Stanford or Harvard or Yale said they wanted you would you be willing to relocate for them if they gave you room and board? Come on now, time to step out of your comfort zone. FYI, the man who invented Touch Screen technology went to Berea. You know, that technology used in most phones and tablets and steadily laptops? Now you've heard of Berea. ;D
> [{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gbNtdly9,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-02T03:33:29.538+0000) > > Imagine the best companies you've never heard of in the world. Do you think they are all in Massachusetts? > > Do you NEED the school to be in Massachusetts? If Stanford or Harvard or Yale said they wanted you would you be willing to relocate for them if they gave you room and board? > > Come on now, time to step out of your comfort zone. > > FYI, the man who invented Touch Screen technology went to Berea. You know, that technology used in most phones and tablets and steadily laptops? > > Now you've heard of Berea. ;D Maybe he just wants to be close to home so his family can help him out.
: So what are you suggesting? Riot to hire people to play their game with them? You make it sound like humans can be controlled. This player base is normal people, everyday humans logging in just like you. Not everyone acts like you because no one is alike. Not everyone wants what other people like or enjoy what other people enjoy. Also, one mistake does not ruin people's lives. If anyone who takes their game so seriously to the point that if one game doesn't go their way, everything in their life will fall apart, they need serious help. This is a video game, people are meant to enjoy it. And it's only human nature that people can make other people's experience miserable. Not that I'd commend it, but I accept it. No games will be perfect, life, in general, isn't perfect. I don't think you fully comprehend what you're even saying.
And I don't think you fully comprehend sarcasm. Get off that high horse little gerbil. Not everyone takes shit as seriously as you XD
: > [{quoted}](name=cuddlykitten4,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w4V8o1HH,comment-id=000200000003,timestamp=2019-05-02T01:29:37.361+0000) > > That's not what a self-fulfilling prophecy is. To be a self-fulfilling prophecy it must start from a false claim, or a claim that is not held in a form of truth. For example, saying "today is going to be a bad day", then having a bad day would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is one because you have no reason (even if something bad happens first thing when you wake up) to believe your day will be a bad day. It is a claim based in no realm of truth. If you make a bad day as a result of operating under that assumption, then that is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Riot were saying that they increased the dmg, that the result would be better results on ppl playing Maokai, then never made the dmg change while still obtaining the claimed results, then yes, that would be a self-fulfilling prophesy. However, since Riot really is making the change they claim, therefore basing all future actions on a true statement and not a false one, what they are really doing when they claim it will improve Maokai's playing is forming a hypothesis. If his win rate does go up as a result, they will then have a theory. I wasn’t talking about maokai, I was talking about riot thinking damage is the only way to carry in solo queue and both balancing and enforcing this mentality creates that reality, and we know this hasn’t always been true because past seasons have had tanks be successful as damage soakers and disrupters with low damage output. False perception: damage is the only way to be good in solo queue Prophecy resulting: balances around this idea and suggests it in informal and formal situations. Result: damage is the only way to be good in solo queue
At no point has the claim that it's the only way to be good in solo que been made. It has been claimed to be the most affective way to affect LOWER TIER solo que. That's still not a false claim tho, as Riot has legitimate data spanning over a decade to reference to. It would fall under, again, a hypothesis. They are getting the idea from a logical source. It is both testable and can be verified as false. Applying it to the patch would qualify as the experiment. Self-fulfilling prophecies do not have an experiment. They have only claim and result. What Riot is doing is quantitative in nature. It can't have a self fulfilling prophecy. They aren't altering a behavior with it. They are altering a statistic to attempt to achieve a desired result. They believe the buff, or variable, will alter the game, or constant, in the way they desire. This is an experiment. The buff is a hypothesis. When they get the data in, they will form a theory. I'll save you some time by correcting your tiers there: False perception is actually hypothesis. Prophecy resulting is experiment results. Result is the resulting theory that would be developed upon arrival of the final statistics of the experiment, regardless of whether desired results were achieved or not. All the things you put after the colons are honestly just your own perception of how you want to take the situation and what riot says. Word of advice, leave the assumptions at home. They work against your credibility.
: Because it's the freedom of choices of whom you want to see in the game. People get this freedom due to the fact it could mean it's a risk they do not want to see or a champion they'd rather not have on their team. There could always be other intentions other than trying to provoke or grief you. The issue in the matter is that everyone in this game thinks they're entitled. Which is never the case when it comes to this game and people needs to stop thinking they're entitled to everything.
but......don't you know.......everyone in this game is a million dollar LCS quality player. THe only thing holding them back is the other players. If it weren't for them destroying what would be a perfect game after perfect game after perfect game then everyone would be rich right now. Your one mistake ruined their entire life. Didn't you know that?
: Can someone explain why banning someone's hovered champion is allowed?
The reason would be if the person hovering is final pick on a champ that is both broken and high pick rate at that current time. Let's pretend that champ is Jayce because it never is. So the person on your team hovering Jayce is tenth pick. If no one else owns Jayce, or is willing to pick him due to not wanting to lose their champ or whatever reason, then ppl might ban Jayce to prevent the enemy from stomping the team with him. There is a reason the last picks are called low priority picks. Those are the ones who will potentially have to suck it up because they have to rely on the champ not being picked first. The return is that low priority picks have the best opportunity to see what they're up against and properly counter pick. Yea, that person might get mad that their Jayce got banned, but that person is also putting their personal desires above the team in that moment. The same person would probably throw a tantrum if they died twice or if an ally made any mistake whatsoever, no matter how small.
Xidphel (NA)
: An analogy is a type of comparison. You don't have to be anal about it. ... Anyone?
An analogy is, by definition, "A comparison between two things". So when you say "type" what you mean is...it's different......because you can't compare three things in an analogy?.....sounds pretty anal to me.....even then, comparison doesn't have multiple types as a comparison is literally only "the act of comparing" so while analogy is specific, comparison is not, therefore it has no specific types.....A Great Dane is a dog, a dog is not necessarily a Great Dane.....I'm not following your point. Are you just trying really hard to attempt to sound smarter than other people by using words and phrasing that would come off as remotely intellectual to a layman in order to manipulate people into blindly following what you say under the assumption that you know more than them?
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilk Łucznik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w4V8o1HH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-01T17:16:51.526+0000) > > Because as it's been explained in the past: > > **Buffing tank damage is the best way to get them to improve for *solo queue*, as aside from extreme buffs to utility, anything besides damage won't cause them to improve much for lower skill brackets.** > > It's why Sej's and Ornn's damage was buffed recently when they were struggling, because if you buff their defense, sustain, CC, any actual aspect of a tank, then they will stay the same for lower skill levels (where people can't or don't know how to take advantage of those strengths to their proper capacity) while also making them extremely strong in higher elo and organized play (where people *do* know how to use those strengths). That’s just not true though, and the only thing that style of balancing does is ~~create self-fulfilling prophecies, in addition~~ lead to unhealthy styles of play. If you tell players, and more importantly balance around the idea of doing more damage to carry in solo queue, then of course that’s the only style that can prosper. Season 2, 3, and 4 saw tanks being strong without doing absurd chunks of damage. They were valuable for their CC. They could sustain in lane and they didn’t have to practically one shot you to achieve this. Again, it’s just lazy thinking and making baseless assumptions about the player base. It’s also catering to a horrible style of play that has been perpetuated across the board: damage for everyone.
That's not what a self-fulfilling prophecy is. To be a self-fulfilling prophecy it must start from a false claim, or a claim that is not held in a form of truth. For example, saying "today is going to be a bad day", then having a bad day would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is one because you have no reason (even if something bad happens first thing when you wake up) to believe your day will be a bad day. It is a claim based in no realm of truth. If you make a bad day as a result of operating under that assumption, then that is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Riot were saying that they increased the dmg, that the result would be better results on ppl playing Maokai, then never made the dmg change while still obtaining the claimed results, then yes, that would be a self-fulfilling prophesy. However, since Riot really is making the change they claim, therefore basing all future actions on a true statement and not a false one, what they are really doing when they claim it will improve Maokai's playing is forming a hypothesis. If his win rate does go up as a result, they will then have a theory.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZdydQsUv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-17T00:50:24.755+0000) > > 51% win rate in the wrong role is overpowered, fyi. She was originally a mid laner. Her win rate as support is 50%. Also there is no "wrong" role wtf.
There are definitely "wrong" roles. Although, that is a terrible word to use for it. Riot themselves have said on many occasions that there are champs intended to fill a specific role/lane and if something happens that makes them too strong in a different lane they will nerf/buff until they get the champ back into the right place again. They said it when they reworked Kayle even. Said they were worried that Kayle might find a way into the jungle and if so it would remove the risk of her early game, which is intentionally worked into Kayle in order to counterract her late game. If Kayle found a way to run in jungle effectively she could just safely farm out to late game. They said if this happened they would look into changes that would bring her out of jungle and force her back into lane. She's meant to fill a purpose, and if a meta finds a way to change that purpose rito will change it back. They do this a lot when supports find their way into lane roles, or when laners find a way into support if they wreak too much havoc. In fact, a beautifully ironic example is the fact that Morgana is supposed to be in mid and rito saw her in support almost exclusively so they tweaked her a little to get her back into mid again.
: Fairness in rank games
or....maybe that's what rank your skill level actually is........
: >Wouldn't you like to actually OWN the games you buy again? Yes but I'm fine with not having to wait in line for several hours on release day after preordering months before so that I can even play a new game, much less if I didn't preorder and have to wait another few weeks until the store gets more games shipped out AND I have to buy them before others. Sure I don't 'own' the games anymore, but honestly the only difference is it's easier for me to purchase and play games. >Wouldn't you like to play them without logging into an account, I already can. Part of buying the games from Steam is downloading them, and whether I'm offline or not I can still just play them. > and wouldn't you like to be able to play your games without someone spying on you while you do it, The only thing I care about is hiding whether I own lewd games and my playtime on said games. I don't give a shit if a company knows how much time I've wasted on Warframe. > and wouldn't you like to stop exclusives? Yes but I don't see how this is remotely relevant to Steam.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eehUlNyL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-17T20:36:37.044+0000) > > Yes but I'm fine with not having to wait in line for several hours on release day after preordering months before so that I can even play a new game, much less if I didn't preorder and have to wait another few weeks until the store gets more games shipped out AND I have to buy them before others. Sure I don't 'own' the games anymore, but honestly the only difference is it's easier for me to purchase and play games. > > I already can. Part of buying the games from Steam is downloading them, and whether I'm offline or not I can still just play them. > > The only thing I care about is hiding whether I own lewd games and my playtime on said games. I don't give a shit if a company knows how much time I've wasted on Warframe. > > Yes but I don't see how this is remotely relevant to Steam. You never owned any game man. When you buy a physical copy of a game you are buying the licensing right to play that game/install it onto your system (depending on era the game is from). It says it all in the fine print that no one ever reads. If you owned the game you could create copies of it yourself and sell them.
Cloud273 (NA)
: I'm starting to have second thoughts about Steam...
Yea.....I remember the days of owning games.....blowing in cartridges.....trying to get scratches off CDs......having to open case after case after case because someone didn't put it back in it's own case........memory cards.......relying almost exclusively on box art and what the game has to say about itself to decide if it seemed worth your time.......hoping the new game you want isn't sold out already........buying games multiple times because your copy gets messed up so it's off to the game store to buy it for the third time......not even going to bother going back to Atari days because I haven't got time for all that........yea.....wonder why people prefer to by digital copies that stay linked to you via cloud and account status rather than the old days.
: AFK / Leaver Behavior decrease from 5 to 3 games.
To be fair though, it is you who chooses to place yourself in game knowing that these things may happen. You might try searching on the boards for other players with similar issues like family and such who all have the agreement to not afk report each other and let the enemy team know that the other 4 are cool with it if said event occurs.
KazKaz (OCE)
: Please just Tristana's jump
Her jump animation is also one of the longest in the game. Her jump itself is also one of the slowest mobility abilities in the game. You can literally just shoot her with a skillshot while she's in midair. Of course, the two champs you listed are champs who should instashred her so I feel like maybe the issue is with things you do before you face off against them.
: They need to scale your rerolls by the amount of champs you have. 2 rerolls with all champs unlocked compared to someone with 20 champs is just ignorant. Also when you enter a champ select screen... The champ you had will carry over to the next match if someone dodges. This would reduce dodging by a fair bit since they get that champion again when they try to play ARAM after buffer time. {{champion:53}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:115}}
You do get a 1 point bonus towards your next reroll for each champ that you have. I have almost every champ, and I personally don't feel like my rerolls are any more wasted than when my account was younger. I might even say I feel they're less of a waste considering that I get a new reroll after most games I play. After 2 games my rerolls are usually maxed out again. I also feel that if I had something like (random number) 10 rerolls that I could just reroll a handful of times and hand free champs via trades to my teammates. Could probably abuse that to straight up decide what comp you want each game.
: ^ the fact that you're afraid to put a little effort into some understanding is probably why I've had the feeling that you're half-informed this entire time. Also, a paragraph is there as a change of thought topics. I rarely use paragraphs because I believe all thoughts are linear. Had many arguments with teachers over that growing up. Still finished with phenomenal grades so it obviously doesn't slow me down much The irony of what you said there is that I make money on the side as a ghost writer for local rappers, and one country artist strangely enough. I literally am paid for the way I use words, so if paragraphs are my only issue then I"m very ok with that. Thanks to the internet most grammatical rules are out the window anyways. Also, smartass, you're supposed to put five letters worth of space at the beginning of each paragraph. Don't be trying that call out stuff if you aren't being perfect yourself. Also, you saying that at all was a tangent. You're just trying to derail the conversation. I'll make you a deal. I'll clean up the text when you clean up that faulty thought process ;)
You also asked somewhere that I now can't find why I feel he's being attacked. Naming and shaming. Riot themselves consider that an attack. I'm basing this on the standards he himself agreed to when he took that job. Nothing more. Nothing less. Also, the person in reference has themselves said that they feel like that was a personal attack on them, a low blow, and completely uncalled for. If he feels offended then it's offensive. Not like some stupid things where someone says a word someone doesn't like. This guy was bringing up personal stuff that was completely unnecessary. It bothers me that you're ok with that because I know if you get treated that way I'll end up standing up for you as well, even though, as of right now, I don't feel like you would deserve the help. I just believe in doing the right thing over my personal feelings. It's called having a calling in life.
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: I'm not even going to read this because it's literally a wall of text, without any paragraphs. If you're going to make my eyes hurt while trying to have a discussion with you, then this is the point where i'm going to drop out. Clean up this text.
^ the fact that you're afraid to put a little effort into some understanding is probably why I've had the feeling that you're half-informed this entire time. Also, a paragraph is there as a change of thought topics. I rarely use paragraphs because I believe all thoughts are linear. Had many arguments with teachers over that growing up. Still finished with phenomenal grades so it obviously doesn't slow me down much The irony of what you said there is that I make money on the side as a ghost writer for local rappers, and one country artist strangely enough. I literally am paid for the way I use words, so if paragraphs are my only issue then I"m very ok with that. Thanks to the internet most grammatical rules are out the window anyways. Also, smartass, you're supposed to put five letters worth of space at the beginning of each paragraph. Don't be trying that call out stuff if you aren't being perfect yourself. Also, you saying that at all was a tangent. You're just trying to derail the conversation. I'll make you a deal. I'll clean up the text when you clean up that faulty thought process ;)
: You’re absolutely right. I’m in it for the fun. I guess over the years I’ve been worn down and lost sight of that. I have a very deep sense for Justice. I think that’s why I have a very hard time just muting. I want the tools that riot provides to give us justice to feel like they work. But in the mean time, I’ve just started muting all at the start of each game. I like you cuddly, you’re the first person to actually listen to what I’m trying to say. Kuddos to you!
: This really could not have been put any better. I have many times encountered literal sub-Dodo variants of humans, who make Lemmings look like free thinkers. I think the game would be a lot less volatile and more co-operative (barring the 1% of people who are actually stupid) if Ranked stats and the like were based off of personal performance rather than teamwork. That way all of the little kiddies who ride the short-bus into the queue can stay at the bottom of the stack. =D
"I have many times encountered literal sub-Dodo variants of humans, who make Lemmings look like free thinkers." I'm saving htis in my insult file so I can memorize it and use it one day XD thank you for this beautiful sentence Edit: it is now the first thing everyone sees on my social media pages XD
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: >.010% This might seem really insignificant when compared to all the other good stuff you do for this community... but I just love how you gave another significant digit in order to not end on a 1. Now that's the way you properly round numbers in science!
: Thank you for saying this. I thought the same thing when I read Riot Tantrums comment about me. It was an unprofessional and low blow. I never troll in game, I never use slurs, I never use hate speech and I would never dream of telling another player to take their own life. I don’t care how nasty or trolly they are. I refuse to go there. My infractions have been the result of me arguing with strong language when people become toxic or try to ruin the game through trolling. That’s it in a nutshell. Maybe riot tantrum felt justified in his low blow because he is used to dealing with people who truly wish to derail the game or harm others with their words. But that is not me. I’m simple frustrated with not seeing any improvement in player behavior and feeling like I have no recourse other than to defend myself in game.
I see where you're coming from on that. The trick is the mute button man. I know it's hard to do that. I know you wanna tell em how it is. You're not playng the game for that though, you're playing for fun. Mute me and continue having fun :) It's what I do. It really does work. Just don't tell em you're muting them so they don't feed troll you or something. Either way, I believe in standing by my fellow people, and not letting them be treated like shit. I got your back.
: You’re right, I could have. I did not mean to come across as not polite.
It happens man. There was still no right, reason, or purpose for you to be attacked like that.
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SunOfAdam,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oEpXvoXZ,comment-id=0014000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-21T21:14:33.129+0000) > > Then maybe don’t dole out punishments until your system works? It’s highly innaccurate from my experience. "From his experience" means that he had dealings with the system. So Riot Tantram asked him why he thinks the system is innacurate and has explained how it works and which people does it take into account. As we've established that its chronic offenders and SunOfAfam is one, why does he feel the system doesn't work?
Experience does not in any way mean that he ever got in trouble. It can mean that, but it can also not mean that he's seen it happen to others. An experience is anything you go through in life. If enough people say the same thing to you, that is an experience. If all people say that apples are delicious, but you have never had one, then in your experience you would have come to understand that apples are delicious. Him saying that in his experience that system is innacurate could just as easily mean that he has friends who do that. You and I can assume and speculate, but isn't one of Riot's policies to not name and shame? How is a direct response to an account on the boards that includes the behavioral background of that account not the same as naming and shaming? He wasn't talking about his account. He wasn't making some point of him being unfairly punished. He was asking why they dont' wait until the system works right after the same red made a comment implying that there is room for improvement. That question is fully justified. He used a reference of "in my experience". Why not just say I was unfairly banned? It's because if you point out that the guy has had a ban then his actual question can be degraded to a personal attack and therefore shoved in the corner as unimportant. If he had started with that then I could see where maybe he was using it to make his point, but he didn't. He made his point without ever bringing it up, then at the end brought it up and made some slight about how he's one of the few who deals with that system. That's disrespecful. Previous ban or not, it's still disrespectful. It's an intentional low blow meant to attack the character of that player and to disregard his question. Honestly, I think the red didn't have a good answer and was salty about his day for some reason, and decided to make some smart ass comment at the end on the person's character, which is very unprofessional. I don't care if that guy was ever banned? Is he banned now? If not then I assume he learned his lesson and all is forgiven. For real, I really do feel that the red was completely out of line. One of us can do that, we're not being paid to be decent and provide support on the boards. HE IS. Honestly, if I knew how to file a complaint about it with Riot I'd do it. I'm not ok with someone being like that when they're supposed to be the voice of reason here. I'll show you why it bothers me real fast though. You said " As we've established that its chronic offenders and SunOfAfam is one, why does he feel the system doesn't work?" Well, you started with that slight that the red made about him being a chronic offender, you followed it up with the same question but in a negative context. You have already disregarded this guy's right to ask if the system is flawed and what can be done about it because he got in trouble. His question, this human being's question, is being completely disregarded as a waste of time because of that one thing the red said about him on a personal level. Do you not see how wrong that actually is? He's a human being no matter what mistakes he may have made. How the hell am I the only one standing up for him?!?!?!?!?!?
: The Item builds on the champs I play are for one simple reason. I dont follow the meta, I dont let it think for me. When I am building 'random' Items I am actually building in -response- to an enemy. Unlike others I dont just let the meta do my thinking for me, something I often catch shit for. But I do and always will adapt my building to adapt to my enemy. I get flamed and harrassed because I dont follow the idea of "one size fits all" meta. How no matter what "you are playing X so you can only build Y Item" And I am often trying to play items off one another. They can call me what they want, But I refuse to let them turn me into some drone who doesnt ADAPT to a situation. If an enemy is getting too close? Yeah I am gonna build sunfire/cinder to convince them to keep thier distance. I dont intend to be one of those people who stops thinking for myself and just relies on "current meta" to do thinking for me.
Obviously you don't sell your full build and rebuild yourself that often (that's mostly commonly a thing teemo players will do), but it is something that wins the game on occasion. I picked the sell build/buy new build example because of it's extremity in order to demonstrate how out of the box one must think on occasion.
: The Item builds on the champs I play are for one simple reason. I dont follow the meta, I dont let it think for me. When I am building 'random' Items I am actually building in -response- to an enemy. Unlike others I dont just let the meta do my thinking for me, something I often catch shit for. But I do and always will adapt my building to adapt to my enemy. I get flamed and harrassed because I dont follow the idea of "one size fits all" meta. How no matter what "you are playing X so you can only build Y Item" And I am often trying to play items off one another. They can call me what they want, But I refuse to let them turn me into some drone who doesnt ADAPT to a situation. If an enemy is getting too close? Yeah I am gonna build sunfire/cinder to convince them to keep thier distance. I dont intend to be one of those people who stops thinking for myself and just relies on "current meta" to do thinking for me.
Actually, I can disprove your theory that there are only a few acceptable items for each champ with Riot themselves. Next game your playing, look at the recommended. Idc which champ you're on, there will be more items in the recommended list than you can actually equip. They will be in sections that are titled to make it clear what situations you should focus it on. Also, I read diamond+ player's comments (have a few RL friends that are really high ELO too that say this stuff as well) and they almost all consistently tell people they are foolish to even rush the "essential" items because it's a bad habit to plan your first item before you even see action that game. You take gauntlets on nasus right as first item (I prefer triforce) right? You get your ass punked on by a good teemo right? Not me, I'll just rush spirit instead, and force his mana out on wasted blinds. I don't even build iceborn on nasus. I almsot never lose on nasus even when I'm countered. Why? I've played enough nasus to know what items actually need built in a situation. See, building the ideal builds is hella powerfuil, but what do you do when they aren't working? DO you adapt? Or do you scream ff at 15? I never vote to surrender. Like, I refuse to vote to surrender no matter what. I also win about half of the games I'm losing because I'll adapt and overcome. Having issues in teamfights? Sell your whole build and buy tower crusher items, then do nothing but smash on towers. Can't get to a tower? Sell all your stuff, and buy armor items, become the sacrificial tower aggro lamb, and bum rush those fools nonstop until they are afraid to even be on the same screen as you. Have you ever seen a floor plan for a building with the emergency fire escape routes? They provide at least two ways out from each location. They do this because the ideal path may be a wall of fire and you may have to find another way to survive. What path do you take in the games where your enemies turn out to be a wall of fire? Do you take the other exit, or accept your fate and burn to death?
: that's not including games that i've played in the last year when I did that math so probably add a few more hundred to that total number
for some reason I typed ms boost for rageblade, but it was meant to be att speed. People here tend to dwell on semantics so I should probably make that clear.
: that's not including games that i've played in the last year when I did that math so probably add a few more hundred to that total number
It's not near as powerful at it was on the runes/masteries last year in conjuntction with thunderlord's, but it still works fairly well. First off, I"m not the guy saying that I biuld reactionally, though I do do that. I actually make my builds slightly differently though. Item 1 is a farm/synergy item, 2 is the other synergy, 3 is to counterplay my most commonly seen enemy that game, 4 is to counterplay the most powerful enemy, 5 is kind of whatever seems necessry overall if you've made it that far, and 6 is boots. 6 is the only one I don't build in order numerically most games. Since you asked though, I'll run how to adc raka for you since you seem skeptical. You first have to learn how to farm with your AA. It is not near as easy as one would think, but very easy once you get it down because of her projectile speed. Before you build her you have to understand how to place her points. You never take W. Never, ever take W. If you are playing the role of adc (the way I like to play her) then you cannot afford to be handing your hp away to other people. It's just how it is. You only take heal once you have nothing else you can invest in, or if it's obvious you can be raking in tons of assist gold with it, but the second one is rarely necessary. You put points in Q then E. Alternate between them rather than max one out first immediately. This gives you a roundabout dmg sustain with abilities. You will also be building mostly att speed on her because you don't have as many abilities to rely on so you must get as many AA in in between attacks. Your ult is pretty much a health reserve for you and an assist factory. Your heals won't serve much purpose for you. Use your passive for repositioning, it's very powerful for that. The idea is a triple combo hit and run while you are constantly gaining health back off your Q and shutting down enemy advances with E. You asked about the build tho so I'll run you through a build I would use in an ideal game. Obviously this would vary if things got weird or whatever, but that's any champ that should be aware of that, not just raka. You get BotRK first. It's there for a few reasons. The AD boost makes all the difference in the world for your cs. The extra LS basically means every time you do something you are getting hp back. Mix it with your Q and it's annoying af for the enemy adc. You can get all your hp back within a minute's worth of time from almost none. It also provides att speed (there's only one item that won't), but it's big selling point on Raka is it's active. You drop your E, activate BotRK which slows them and traps them in the E, then Q them, AA, and so forth. Static is mostly an att speed boost to her, but the passive on it makes farming a little easier on it. I sometimes dont' build it second and either replace it with something else like Phantom Dance (the actual second item you should be after, in this example we will build statik) or something or simply skip it in the build. it's biggest purpose is to kill the invisible champs and the champs who dash a lot to the back of their waves. You can hit a minion and the chain lightning will hit the invisible champs. You can kill twitchs all day doing that. Pretty sure the game your referring to had a twitch in it. That's why I had static that game. The actual ideal second item though is rageblade. It gives you AD/AP/att speed. You can also proc it easier than most champs early on because of the Q hp regen and the stun off the E. Your BotRK active is intended to stick them inside the E to buy time to proc up rageblade. The extra ms boost from proccing rageblade means you will be proccing statik that much faster as well. By now you should have the att speed boots. Since statik was item number two your next two items will be phantom dancer and death's dance in whichever order you feel is necessary that game. The idea of these two items is to significantly reduce the dmg your taking in combat temporarily to buy time for all your heals to build up on you. You won't be hitting as hard as an adc necessarily, but you will have a much, much larger bag of tricks to grab out of. your synergy as raka with the other supports is also far stronger than most ADC's synergy with them. She's easier to adapt than most ADCs, and can provide an alternate form of backup for when things get weird. Basically, she becomes a paladin from WoW that throws bananas instead of having a sword.
: that's not including games that i've played in the last year when I did that math so probably add a few more hundred to that total number
Told you Raka is an off meta beast :D Phantom dancer + deaths' dance is a very brutal combo from behind. It's one of my favorite item synergies.
: Lost champions
Never heard of this issue before. My only two thoughts on it is that maybe you have two accounts and are confusing them with each other? That one seems unlikely to me though. Other than that, perhaps it's simply a glitch or bug interacting with your account. Try hitting up Riot support first before you get too upset. It might be a simple mistake with an easy fix.
: I don't go 0/X very often at all XD Most of my games run a fairly average KDA assuming I'm not on a particular hot or cold streak, and am not playing a champ I"m especially good or bad with. Not sure if you meant that aimed at me on that or not XD Either way, my scores can hold their own as far as trying to break down a KDA can go. I also tend to hold one of the higher cs scores in most games I play because I focused on that for a while. Your view from "ELO hell" is cute and all, but I only climb up to S5, get my border, then go back to norms so I can be not bronze for the sake of it. I'm not sure if I'd be stuck in silver or not. Never really pushed that limit. I have, however, done the math once about a year ago on how many games I've played assuming 50% wins and losses in conjunction with all SR games I've played across all ques in both ranked and non-ranked. I had about 1,000 wins in blind pick, 2,100 wins in team bulder before they got rid of it, 1,200 wins in the current draft mode, then I've averaged something in the vicinity of 80 wins in S3, 100 in s4, then 50 each in s5, 6, and 7. If you assume the same number of losses as wins in each que you have a total of approximately 9,260 games on SR (used to play a ton when I worked overnights XD ). So in just shy of 10,000 games played I'd say I've learned more than your little "ELO hell" experience has taught you. Take some real advice from someone who actually does know what they're talking about. You don't know near as much as you think you know. On that note, I am done with you as I feel you will only proceed in a cyclical fashion from here. I hope you've learned something here today.
that's not including games that i've played in the last year when I did that math so probably add a few more hundred to that total number
: > You say people try to provide infinitely more relevant advice right? You're trying to disprove the guy whose advice was ultimately to not be a selfish dick to people. Well to be fair by trolling with weird items and builds he is being a selfish dick by putting his team at a disadvantage. This is one of the most confusing arguments I get from 0-12 top laners... they are baffled that people on their team are pissed at them. They don't seem to understand that they wasted 15-40 minutes of 4 other players time. I'm of the mindset that if you feed and ruin what could be a fun close game, you are the selfish dick. If someone saying "wow 0-10 you suck" shocks you, maybe play bots until you aren't a threat to go 0-10. Just my view from low ELO hell
I don't go 0/X very often at all XD Most of my games run a fairly average KDA assuming I'm not on a particular hot or cold streak, and am not playing a champ I"m especially good or bad with. Not sure if you meant that aimed at me on that or not XD Either way, my scores can hold their own as far as trying to break down a KDA can go. I also tend to hold one of the higher cs scores in most games I play because I focused on that for a while. Your view from "ELO hell" is cute and all, but I only climb up to S5, get my border, then go back to norms so I can be not bronze for the sake of it. I'm not sure if I'd be stuck in silver or not. Never really pushed that limit. I have, however, done the math once about a year ago on how many games I've played assuming 50% wins and losses in conjunction with all SR games I've played across all ques in both ranked and non-ranked. I had about 1,000 wins in blind pick, 2,100 wins in team bulder before they got rid of it, 1,200 wins in the current draft mode, then I've averaged something in the vicinity of 80 wins in S3, 100 in s4, then 50 each in s5, 6, and 7. If you assume the same number of losses as wins in each que you have a total of approximately 9,260 games on SR (used to play a ton when I worked overnights XD ). So in just shy of 10,000 games played I'd say I've learned more than your little "ELO hell" experience has taught you. Take some real advice from someone who actually does know what they're talking about. You don't know near as much as you think you know. On that note, I am done with you as I feel you will only proceed in a cyclical fashion from here. I hope you've learned something here today.
: I mean it in the sense that most of the things you get are buffs to your champ, then you've got rift herald that acts as a tower smasher. It's a one time use per game only where everything else, even baron, will continue to respawn. I feel it's power in use that early is too game changing as well. That works out if the team that is behind gets it, but if the team that is ahead gets it I feel it pushes the gap too far apart for the other team. Visually I don't feel like it fits in with anything else in the jungle as well, but that's not as big of a thing to me. It's just the whole flow of the game in relation to it's interaction with herald that gets me.
It just feels like Riot felt like they absolutely had to have something in baron pit before baron spawns and rushed the idea I guess.
: in what way do you mean? for me, aside from it being an unnecessary extra push down for turrets that are already easy enough to destroy without it, i also dont like that theres a big potentially game changing reward there before baron even spawns. imo its just unhealthy in literally every way save for adding something for top laners to do besides slap each other (which ngl i was always perfectly content with)
I mean it in the sense that most of the things you get are buffs to your champ, then you've got rift herald that acts as a tower smasher. It's a one time use per game only where everything else, even baron, will continue to respawn. I feel it's power in use that early is too game changing as well. That works out if the team that is behind gets it, but if the team that is ahead gets it I feel it pushes the gap too far apart for the other team. Visually I don't feel like it fits in with anything else in the jungle as well, but that's not as big of a thing to me. It's just the whole flow of the game in relation to it's interaction with herald that gets me.
BIFF (NA)
: Currently if your friend gets mad and does something fuckity the whole team gets punished. So yes I think the duo should get the brunt of the punishment. Instead of making a whole team suffer when someone ragequits.
Personally, I disagree with that, but I can understand the train of logic that would lead you to that conclusion.
BIFF (NA)
: Most of the time. The rest of the time the smurfs are running the board on their lanes who are to distracted flaming your team who then flames them back.
True. I've just found that the best way to counteract superior skill is psychological warfar. Nothing is a win all of course. I just find that that seems to work more consistently in my personal experience.
: Are you using your lead to secure a win or to secure a greater lead? Those two things tend to achieve very different results. I don't know what you're doing wrong since I've never seen you play, but maybe if you approach a few games with that question in mind you might find some things in how you play that might make a difference. Also, perhaps watch some replays of your games and watch yourself. I've found flaws in how I play by doing that before. That's how I learned not to chase so much.
Also, don't be afraid to ask allies what they think might need to happen to make a win take place if you are unsure how to progress.
: I really need some help here, what am I doing wrong?
Are you using your lead to secure a win or to secure a greater lead? Those two things tend to achieve very different results. I don't know what you're doing wrong since I've never seen you play, but maybe if you approach a few games with that question in mind you might find some things in how you play that might make a difference. Also, perhaps watch some replays of your games and watch yourself. I've found flaws in how I play by doing that before. That's how I learned not to chase so much.
: Also, lectures are specifically intended to teach or be educational. I'm mostly just pointing out flaws and reflecting discussion. They are different things. ^ That was a lecture XD ^ and that was me giving you something passive aggressive so you don't have to be wrong about that anymore XD You're welcome
Just so you know man, I"m pretty much like this nonstop. You're just going to end up irritated, and I'm just going to get laughs out of it. I'm just giving you a heads up on that now because I don't want you to spiral into some kind of annoyed fury that can't be avoided if you're one of those people who get mad if you can't convince everyone to hive mind with you. Only seems fair to let you know.
: I'm not passive aggressive XD I'm blunt and direct by nature. That's why I'm straight up saying these things to you rather than implying them XD XD Everyone is forgettable when attached to a screen name on a forum. We are all nobodies here to each other. Was that supposed to be an insult? I'm not insulted. I don't really get insulted to be honest. Again, I still say you need to work on your attitude.
Also, lectures are specifically intended to teach or be educational. I'm mostly just pointing out flaws and reflecting discussion. They are different things. ^ That was a lecture XD ^ and that was me giving you something passive aggressive so you don't have to be wrong about that anymore XD You're welcome
: > [{quoted}](name=cuddlykitten4,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RKluvHa4,comment-id=000300000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-22T02:30:30.377+0000) > > Actually, I wasn't going to call it photoshopped. I"m more confused on why you even posted it at all. I don't find it to be impressive, nor do I care. I'm not even sure what you think I'm supposed to get out of it. Also, I"m not permabanned. I've never been banned. Had a chat restriction one time like 3 and a half years ago if you want to count that I guess. The only reason I believe you are bringing that stuff up though is because I don't think you can counterpoint wiht an actual point so you're trying to play a wild card. I"m just not impressed by it man. You could be Master tier for all I care, and still be bronze ranked as a human being. It kind of humors me that you threw your rank into it though. To answer your last paragraph, I actually don't care at all. I'm mostly just killing time out of boredom. Of course rank has nothing to do with player behavior, that's why I don't understand why you're bringing rank into it. I never mentioned it once. You're kinda just making this stuff up as you go aren't you? XD > > Also, this is extra funny to me because I thought it was the OP I was responding to. I stand by what I say though, your attitude needs work. I cant remember the name of every passive-aggressive little shit that randomly insults me on the boards, sorry. Dozens of you guys every day, all equally annoying and forgettable. Like mosquitoes. Maybe you should work on not doing that before trying to lecture other people on their attitudes.
I'm not passive aggressive XD I'm blunt and direct by nature. That's why I'm straight up saying these things to you rather than implying them XD XD Everyone is forgettable when attached to a screen name on a forum. We are all nobodies here to each other. Was that supposed to be an insult? I'm not insulted. I don't really get insulted to be honest. Again, I still say you need to work on your attitude.
: i feel like league would be a lot healthier without rift herald than it is with it
I just don't like rift herald because it feels completely out of place
: > [{quoted}](name=ƒrøstγ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KOPLiyi3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-22T00:52:47.340+0000) > > {{champion:34}} I actually played quite a fair amount of games with {{champion:34}} and I still think {{champion:30}} is worse..
You get your cs from your landmines with Karthus. That's why they are cheap with a low CD.
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