Leetri (EUW)
: Oh, so just because I don't think the way you do I HAVE to be a pre-made player? Guess what, I've been a solo player for 5 years now. At the very most I've queued up with 2 other people for an ARAM and that was last season. Obviously there are assholes out there ruining games, but they're not even remotely as common as the boards would make you think. But you can't have a legit discussion in this echo chamber, there's only 1 opinion allowed here.
get one more player and play 5's, gtfo of solo Q
ff4sk (NA)
: It's cancerous as fuck. I can handle a duo but jesus christ anything over 2 people is just unbearable. you'll get people who barely know how to play the fucking game cuss out a solo player for not winning their lane for them and their premade would just back them up. worst part is they always get away with this sort of shit because you can't say anything to them without getting spammed with reports and insults. Riot needs to separate the two, we don't want to play with premades.
Lets not forget when you piss them off they 4 man report you and you get an auto chat ban without saying a word.
: When will riot do something about the trolls?
apparently you guys never watched psychopass, Automated system at its finest.
kdizz (NA)
: You are ineligible to earn loot due to previous behavioral restrictions.
i can understand what you guys are going through, I made one mistake, and no it wasnt my behavior it was going to a norms game. All season i have been in the clear. only playing ranked. than i go to norms where i was Q'd up with a quad que. Turns out i was unlucky. They followed me around the whole game (I mean stacked on top of me spamming pings for 20min or more) and because the other team of B5's and unranked thought it was funny they went out of their way to grief me (by not ending the game and using blitz to pull me from the fountain and kill me over and over again till the game ended itself). I told them (they were fukn losers) I get a 20 game chat ban because 9 people reported me and thought it was hilarious. o BTW they called me a N****er fuker kill my mother %%%%, you name it. Immidiatly riot sends THE EMAIL you got chat restricted and posts that game "due to excessive reports". I go 6ish months in the clear than i decide to play 1 and i mean 1 norm and get restricted. gg Im just curious but how would you all react to that lol
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: Can't Win to Save My Life
add me ill play with you! as long as you are not toxic
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Voqz (NA)
: QUe times
10 min que times in silver, unless you choose fill
: Standing up to bullies? Do you fight a bully back? Do you become the bully? Seriously, the cycle has to stop, the only way for it to stop is to stand up and be passive. Do not fight back, just let it go...Its only a game, if you lose, ok? what do you physically lose out of the match from your life? Nothing...not even your pride , its online...
: Don't bother he is arguing the same thing with me. It's like arguing with a wall. Just read my above conversation with him.
o i see you cant read... gotcha! what part of going 9-1 do you not get, how would you like me to explain that?
: Bad MMR. I said it before.
my mmr was 1740 that isnt bad mmr
: gold 5 to silver 4 the struggle is real
you are lucky G3 to B1 and 9-1 in placements
: Gold V to Bronze V? Nope. You can only drop a tier lower so you would end up in Silver V most likely or Bronze I.
you are wrong i was G3 to B1 and i went 9-1 in placements
: That's why I didn't bother trying in placements. Stuck with the reatated cancers that are Bronze five.... And by retarded cancers I don't mean trolls or feeders.. No no no no.. Not even afks... No the worst problem is the false hopers... When you enter a game and your team has honor Ribbons and silver or gold borders and then you get in game and by 10 minutes you're up a dragon 5 kills and a few turrets. Then JUST ONE time ONLY ONCE does the ADC die or the mid complains that I didn't call the Mia I CLEARY called, and everyone starts spewing toxicity at each other and Bickering and acting like retards and then they manage to lose a game we could've easily won if nobody had started a fight....
banned for life, using word retarded
: You definitely did. Plat 4 to silver 3. 5-5 in placements. rito pls
: Placements were more or less a formality, they affected your MMR more than normal games do but didn't have a major effect on where you placed. You were placed a little below where your MMR from last season said you should be, which generally meant people dropped quite a bit of ranks. The important thing to remember is that it didn't detract from what you learned to improve last season and the old rank should return a lot faster than it did before.
so g3-B1 is a little drop?
: The way they do things is so backwards, I don't even feel like playing ranked. First off, why do placements if it's going to put you in a division below anyhow? Wasting my time like that ... gg Riot.
I went from g3 to B1 and went 9-1 in placements. So i guess whatevs
: Well, as long as you're telling the truth, I hope they resolve it for you. In the future, your friends shouldn't treat the report system like a joke, though... Players have been asking Riot to take language and toxicity more seriously for a long time. This is some of the only collateral that is even possible with system, so it would be nice to close that loophole. But it would also be nice to be able to trust your friends not to make Riot's job harder... lol. Good luck with things!
the big issue is not how hard the job is but how riot deals with it. The old system was SOOOOO much better. S3 and before ppl were less toxic by ALOT. They make billions they should have a GM option. If you call for a GM they may not come, but if they do then they can actively watch game, chat and context. Second the report system needs to have accountability. If you report someone, then you need to explain why you reported them and allow a Riot moderator determine on what both parties say. The moderation could be done over email and then the riot employee (or tribunal of sort) would make the appropriate call. This would solve all the issues, and not have this everyone reports everyone mentality that we have now.
: Context does matter. You, however, are completely misunderstanding the concept. Context is "are they just joking with friends," not "he started it." That doesn't work in grade school, that doesn't work anywhere.
and you dont understand the def of context. ALL chat and gameplay involved is context. Builds are context. If a troll builds 6 boots and says new meta and feeds and OL's his team, and they respond like human beings do, his team would all get punished. GG
straves (NA)
: there a mute, but i get reported for saying my team is going to lose cause no team work.....
im going to down vote you just because that is what people do in this board
Twiggles (NA)
: You do not get a copy of all games taken into account. You get 1-3 recent examples of games you were reported in. Nobody is punished for a single game except in extreme circumstances.
so if its supposed to take games similar into context we are still left with the same thing. 0 context of game, and abuse of the report tool. that abuse leads to the most random chat bans
: When you're having a rough game, I bet it feels great when somebody tells you you're bad. I'm sure you respond with "Yeah, I'm a horrible player. You're right." Don't be a hypocrite.
actually i only called him bad in response to him calling a N-word %%%__T Feeder mine was a response. By the way he called me that because i was 1-3-17 30 min into the game Context, regardless of what riot thinks does matter.
: When you're having a rough game, I bet it feels great when somebody tells you you're bad. I'm sure you respond with "Yeah, I'm a horrible player. You're right." Don't be a hypocrite.
actually i only called him bad in response to him calling a N-word %%%__T Feeder mine was a response. By the way he called me that because i was 1-3-17 30 min into the game
Twiggles (NA)
: You likely had a history of reports compared to the other player. Either way, begging for reports is also toxic. 100% of people are not punished 100% of the time. Just because this person wasn't doesn't mean nobody is.
everyone has a history of reports but i have had chat bans where multiple games were taken into account. in those emails all games are shown. This email had 1 game that was the judging factor. this is how riot does it now they give you the games that you are being held accountable for. im sorry but every game i am in there is a horrendously toxic 4-5 players that say things far far far worse than you are bad.
Dehitay (NA)
: Asking for reports is not a reportable offense. That's just some BS somebody made up and everybody went along with. You have to actually demand reports in a way that meets the definitions of harassment. Asking people to report an obvious problem player is about as much harassment as asking somebody to kill Kim Jong Un. I'm almost positive the reason you got banned is because you repeated Voli's hate speech and the report system isn't smart enough to figure that much out on its own.
calling him bad or salty is hardly toxic, and bannable especially in reply to the stuff he said i mean for real!
: If two people who don't know each other coincidentally rob a bank at the same time, and one robber shoots and kills somebody, but the other doesn't hurt anybody, does that mean that the second robber should not be punished at all since he didn't commit the worst crime? You were mean, you got punished for it. How mean any of the other 9 players were during said match is completely irrelevant.
I WAS MEAN??????? i called him bad lmao. He was flaming and trolling common you cant tell me the PC liberals are being catered to that hard here. using ur analogy, is like getting shot by the robber attacking back and then going to jail and the robber gets rewarded for great societal behavior. Sort of sound like what we do in this country. lmao
: If two people who don't know each other coincidentally rob a bank at the same time, and one robber shoots and kills somebody, but the other doesn't hurt anybody, does that mean that the second robber should not be punished at all since he didn't commit the worst crime? You were mean, you got punished for it. How mean any of the other 9 players were during said match is completely irrelevant.
I WAS MEAN??????? i called him bad lmao. He was flaming and trolling common you cant tell me the PC liberals are being catered to that hard here.
: Report him, that's the key part of my post if you report him chances are other people will report him, if his reports are higher than average then he will get punished. if no one reports him he wont get punished. and how is responding to him any different than Scott free by your logic the only you accomplished was putting yourself in pearl or being reported by the person in question
rito logic, bring back the tribunal. so automated won in favor of report trolls
Ulanopo (NA)
: Why don't you copy/paste out of the game client? That's supposed to have your summoner name.
i have no idea where that is, i have never seen anything out of the client beyond game stats, and names but not text content?
: Rekt scrub. Stop being toxic.
u didnt read the copy paste text from rito's email.
: I know we have our trolls that like to play the rekt card, but anyone that gets a chat ban gets a copy of all games taken into account. i had 1 game taken into account i copy pasted the results. So if i am getting a 24 game chat ban for asking ppl to report him how does that make sense?
its literally like calling the cops on a burglar and going to jail because you offended him lol
: Really rito, tone ur system down
I know we have our trolls that like to play the rekt card, but anyone that gets a chat ban gets a copy of all games taken into account. i had 1 game taken into account i copy pasted the results. So if i am getting a 24 game chat ban for asking ppl to report him how does that make sense?
Twiggles (NA)
: Disregarding the use of the word %%%got (which I know was you quoting him, but the automated system probably doesn't know and repeating it in chat doesn't do anyone any favors), asking for reports is a reportable offense as well. You don't need help reporting a troll. 1 report per game carries the same weight as 9 per game.
so asking ppl to report toxic players is a 24 game chat ban but a player that is toxic get nothing?
: when you get banned typically there's more than just this. you're leaving something out
i litterally copy pasted the email. I have recieved chat bans in the past and they paste every game that was on record. this email had 1 game i just had. pls explain?
: I think a typical riot response is you were in no obligation to respond you could've simply muted him ,reported him and moved on
so he walks away scott free and was the toxic one, everyone new it and everyone said it. soo pls explain logic
: Tone the Auto chat ban system down
might i add a 24 game chat restriction for this. This was the ONLY game referenced. so the bear reports me and his word is taken for gold? gg
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: Why Witt's End before Guinsoo? I'm a bad adc, so I'm more inclined to think there is a good reason but I just can't see it. Guinsoo seems so strong, currently. (But ok, I've been traumatized by Jax, so I don't know, maybe I'm biased.) Also, did you try some very greedy starts, like Mana Crystal +3 potions, then upgrade to tear + pickaxe at first back? It's 400+875 = 1275g, a typical amount for a first back. And it gives you 3 potions, so lots of sustain early.
that is a good idea, i have thought about doing that in future phases. just buying what is needed vs using cull for a later return. Wits end gives a promise amount of AS and on hit dmg that rage blade doesnt give. What i learned about rage blade is if your AS (as an ADC) isnt high enough you wont get to the final phase before you are dead. So that is one of the reasons i put wits first. -cheap -matures your AS enough to help rage blade proc (which for kog is more important).
: I was messing around with Jungle Kog yesterday, posted my thoughts [here](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/KfK4N1Ai-experimental-build-on-hit-kogmaw-jungle)
i was too hahha but where my MMR is in norms from messing around everytime i have tried i get 2-3 ppl afk and troll. The unranked and low bronze are super sensitive for trying stuff. Including builds that deviate from mobafire.
Daxterr (NA)
: I don't really like ap on kog maw. His w damage is so pitiful if you actually see how much it does. Around early/mid game It was doing about 11 damage to lucian. That means that I'd have to hit lucian like 100 times with just the W effect to kill him. With 5 attacks/second that is still 20 seconds... My favorite kog build that I've tried is: {{item:3153}} {{item:3042}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}}( {{item:3086}} item) and a situaional item This build basically turns you into Keanu Reeves. It's pretty disgusting if you can manage to finish the build, but it's not that strong really. The problem is that playing kog is 1 nail in your coffin and then buying tear on an adc is another nail in your coffin. Kog maw is a cool character but there are so many things wrong with him that I want to make a thread myself. The just of it is that he doesn't scale with ap, ad or attack speed naturally. He only scales well once you buy specific items for him and even then those items get outscaled very quickly by ad and crit.
that is actually why i chose not to go a route like this. The meta ends SO fast that it makes it impossible to get good itemization. I could see a crit AD kog be strong, but till the game slows down a bit i couldnt get much past the 2 1/2 item build on any given game. maybe 3 if u r lucky. Just what i have seen so far
Rebonack (NA)
: I've tried Mura on Koggy (over on Dominion where stacking it is even faster) and the amount of hurt it puts out is crazy. However, with the change to W's scaling I've started to lean away from attack damage because it doesn't provide Koggy with the potent multiplicative power that it once did. Right now, there are three items with three-fold multiplicative power on Koggy, {{item:3124}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3091}}. The first two provide OnHit, attack speed, and AP to amp the power of all three of the OnHit effects. Wit's grants OnHit and attack speed, in addition to MR shred to amp said OnHit power. So instead of items that add some more OnHit effects that don't amplify each other, I would suggest getting items to amp the OnHit damage Koggy already has. To that end, Voidstaff is a wonderful option. The last item would be whatever AP item the situation demands. This build hurts (a lot) but you're glassy and wholly immobile. There's another option, though. Kog can instead grab Rageblade and Wit's while forgoing Nashor's in favor of building *defense*. Beyond those two items, new items added to the mix don't boost Koggy's damage by *that* much. If you are dealing 1/4th less damage while being three to four times as durable, that strikes me as a net win. Because people *are* going to dive you and there's very little to be done about it.
yeah as far as AD with kog i usually am not intentionally aiming for it the whole Mura thing was the on hit ap dmg ratio off of mana. I have not taken the (EVO expo) to ranked where i "might" get a better support to get a true test. Most the times in Norms its just AFKs and trolls so i have not got a proper test. Thanks for your comment!
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: End of Season Trolls have appeared
right i just had a trundle only say gg and died 15 times in the first 10 min. thanks to TP
: Toxicity has just sky rocketed ever since punishments have been reformatted so theres really no threat of bans. I would expect that toxicity would go down the more i play but lately I've been reporting almost every game because of the shit talking. I've never seen this much toxicity in a game that I've played
the problem is not the shit talking, its the supporting of the trolls in the community. bot lane adc gives FB. Support says he cant play with a scrub. talks shit to the ADC, gets the whole team and enemy team to support his actions. ALL harass the adc, till 1 of 2 things happen, he afks or he unleashes hell back on to the team. the adc gets reported and suspended by the game because 4-6 people reported him. The question is was the adc at fault or the team, according to riot it was the adc at fault clearly because he was the one that got mass reported. The fact of the matter is if you report your team you should be held accountable for your own reports. The entire game should be taken into consideration. If i were a judge of the game and i saw EVERYTHING that took place that support would of had a 2 week suspension for toxicity and falsely reporting. Everyone else who tortured the adc to the point of break would of had chat restrictions. This is just my opinion. There are no accountability for the people reporting. So it is easy to report for the fun of it. ALOT less reports would happen and toxicity would go down if group think and the way the community can troll and gain up on 1 or 2 ppl to make their experience awful.
: Imo it's bad to ask for {{champion:23}} buffs, but could it at least proc on epic/large monsters(Greater Murk Wolf, Blue/Red buff, drag, Baron)?. I feel the reason i's so strong is that, in addition to dueling potential earlygame, it just gives too much sustain to an already manaless champion. Both are OP hypercarries, they shouldn't have so much sustain. HP pot nerfs were meant so you'd have less sustain
Trynd is worse than yasuo. level 5 with just a VS he had 50% crit and 20% lS. That made him unduelable, and god forbid if its norms and u pick something that you cant lock trynd down with.
: trynd broken wayyyyy too broken
Ummm yea trynd is a little broke, at level 5 her had a VS and 20% LS with 40% crit. he was able to 4 shot me and recover HP back faster than i could do dmg... Fisrt blood.
: It's like you don't know the game's 5v5.
yea obviously you havent seen him lately, at lvl3 he can deliver 600 dmg and his LS is so strong that most champs cannot out dmg his ls while he just AA creeps
Rioter Comments
: Wow, I even received an AFK warning from leaving a bot game
I got a warning for a private game once 4bots and me against 5 bots and i got a rito warning. I guess that counts too?
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