: > [{quoted}](name=dnsup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T23:38:22.447+0000) > > Not at all. > > No. > > I actually do. > > They actually are. > > The only "hard math" you trotted out began with completely flawed premises, so obviously there's no sense in anyone bothering with it. Once again you have showed 0 facts. Nice troll. Show the facts or get out.
> [{quoted}](name=BladeSteel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T23:39:58.735+0000) > > Once again you have showed 0 facts. Nice troll. And once again, I can answer you with "not at all," since you've yet to recognize why your original response was fundamentally forceless. And once again, we *really are done here*, because I see no reason to discuss anything with anyone who has shown bad faith (e.g., by making plainly ad hominem arguments).
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=BladeSteel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T23:34:40.959+0000) > > Yet again you show that you have 0 facts to support your side besides 8 posts with 1-5 upvotes saying bring back urf. You fail to realize how small that actually is, while trying to play it off as “the majority of people want urf” Riots numbers that they have released show that people very quickly stop playing urf, more so than any other gamemode. Not at all. > You have nothing besides “I’m right because I say so” No. > And your little “I have advanced qualifications in exactly this” line is actually hilarious. If you actually did, I actually do. > you’d realize the statistics and logic are not in your favor. They actually are. > while denying hard math. The only "hard math" you trotted out began with completely flawed premises, so obviously there's no sense in anyone bothering with it.
Kythers (NA)
: permanently disable URF
> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r3M2yvXd,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-10T20:55:13.144+0000) > > That way no one will complain about it going away anymore > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Well--that's actually the strategy Riot *already uses* to respond to the mode's popularity over the normal game modes.
: i miss rotating gamemodes... i used to complain that we got ascension every weekend, now i regret complaining. id rather have ascension every weekend rather than no rotating gamemodes for 2 years besides urf on april and for 10th aniv.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer17,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q3TyNvVL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-12T21:11:32.533+0000) > > i miss rotating gamemodes... Absolutely the most annoying trend in Riot's updates has been completely backpedalling on RGMs, and investing in things like TFT instead. (I say this without meaning to step on TFT; only to be clear that these games *are* competing for resources, contrary to the beliefs of many on the Boards). > urf on april and for 10th aniv. ARURF in early 2019 was nice, but I have to say that having URF available for only a couple of weeks as a part of the 10th anniversary event was kind of disappointing. Why not do more RGMs? Why not do them each for longer? --- Personally, I won't be herded from a game I *chose* to play (years ago) to other, completely different games that are merely bundled with and then heavily promoted within the same environment as the game I chose to play. That's not how my preferences work, and it's why TenCent's business strategies tend to ruin games for me.
: > [{quoted}](name=dnsup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T20:25:06.849+0000) > > They *actually* don't. They actually do. The 20 people spamming the boards with posts are MUCH less than the millions of players NOT spamming the boards. Even if 100 people spammed the boards with “bring back urf” thats still less than the hundreds of thousands of people fine without URF or who don’t want it back.
> [{quoted}](name=BladeSteel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T21:05:50.414+0000) > > They actually do. They actually don't. > The 20 people spamming the boards with posts are MUCH less than the millions of players NOT spamming the boards. Even if 100 people spammed the boards with “bring back urf” thats still less than the hundreds of thousands of people fine without URF or who don’t want it back. ?? Whatever happened to "actual logic and actual numbers"? You're not using either of those, at this point. You're not even expressing **your own** ***opinions*** without employing obvious hyperbole.
: > [{quoted}](name=300 Super Teemos,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wQTcZwoA,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-11-10T18:37:28.520+0000) > > of course i will STOP playing after URF is gone... or should Rito enforce me to play their modes? I play WHAT I WANNA play! Will not waste my time for another modes at all - everybody saw the time finding a whole party of 10 players got below 1-3 seconds, and that really means MANY MANY MANY urfers online. > > But Rito plays dumb logic saying WE WILL NOT GIVE THE MASSES WHAT THEY WANT, and after take off URF they whine why the masses are gone??? > > Its not about stopping playing, its about NO URF TO PLAY. Leave URF nonstop, and you will have the masses playing it nonstop. But they even delete the posts about URF on their forums. they can't keep urf up all the time because there's actual mental health concerns being made here lol. but the masses aren't actually ready for that type of talk so whatever.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wQTcZwoA,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-11-10T19:09:25.169+0000) > > they can't keep urf up all the time because there's actual mental health concerns being made here lol. ... If that were even a part of Riot's decision process, then its flagship game LoL would not exist (as such) to begin with. > but the masses aren't actually ready for that type of talk so whatever. ... right, "whatever."
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wQTcZwoA,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-11-10T17:48:01.062+0000) > > no proof of that, they don't even like the base game enough to play it all the time. > you see Exactly. If they aren't going to stay and play the game as it was intended, who says a majority would stay long if URF had been around for a longer period of time?
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wQTcZwoA,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2019-11-12T18:20:23.305+0000) > > Exactly. If they aren't going to stay and play the game as it was intended, who says a majority would stay long if URF had been around for a longer period of time? This is some of the most spurious reasoning I've ever seen you use.
: By only coming back for URF, playing to your hearts content, then leaving as soon as it ends, isn't that straight up proving Riot's statement fact in why URF is such a limited time mode to begin with?!
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wQTcZwoA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-10T05:16:03.825+0000) > > By only coming back for URF, playing to your hearts content, then leaving as soon as it ends, isn't that straight up proving Riot's statement fact in why URF is such a limited time mode to begin with?! No, and you should reexamine Riot's reasoning there. (Hint: it's an intentional spin intended to help avoid actual issues related to Riot's legacy product (*League of Legends*)).
: > [{quoted}](name=dnsup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T19:42:55.104+0000) > > Yeah but the numbers say you're in the minority. Actual logic and actual numbers say that you are in the minority.
> [{quoted}](name=BladeSteel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I3EJjiJA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-12T20:15:05.106+0000) > > Actual logic and actual numbers say that you are in the minority. They *actually* don't.
: So, um is Riot AFK?
> [{quoted}](name=LegitBacon66,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=I5lGAPFN,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-11T19:46:36.549+0000) > > I have seen zero response or follow up from Riot. What the hell is going on? "For a very long time, the League of Legends Team (*including marketing*) has accounted for under 20% of Riot's total headcount." Source: [Riot](https://imgur.com/8anhR8T)
Glory97 (EUW)
: What happend to the thumbs up emote?
> [{quoted}](name=Glory97,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t91Nktwr,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-12T19:29:32.441+0000) > > Was it removed? I don't think so - it still shows up in my own collection of emotes.
: I think I have cancer
It's a lymph node. --- (Essential disclaimer: while this post may discuss elements of human biology, I here avow that I am not a medical professional of any kind, and nothing I have ever written (including this comment) should be received as medical advice.)
Finnical (NA)
: Well, see you next time URF returns
> [{quoted}](name=Finnical,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=w6AejfyZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:25:04.051+0000) > > If you happen to read this Riot, I want you to know I returned specifically to play URF, and I won't be returning until it comes back. > > I'm not burned out by URF as you say people get, URF is the only thing in League I still enjoy. ARURF is a barely acceptable alternative, I don't mind broken champs a bit as they are kind of the point of the mode. > > Make URF permanant and maybe you'll see my money again. Hey, that's how I am! In 2014, I said I'd stop giving Riot my money unless URF returned for good in some guise. I was willing to settle for custom games, even. But instead, here we are.
Rioter Comments
: Except URF fallout has been happening since URF came out before we had rapid fire events, before most people complaining (despite the fact that people have always complained) that these latest seasons are shit, before we got to this 'one shot' meta.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8rWvVwbA,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-11-08T17:08:03.575+0000) > > Except URF fallout has been happening since URF came out Not really though.
Durzaka (NA)
: Your collections value isnt being reduced. Nothing is changing. They are releasing more content that you can collect. It still costs money just the same as any other skins you were going to collect. But I disagree and think that completionists in this capacity ARE rare. I bet there are less people who are completionists for skins than there are in Diamond (id say master, but I cant find any hard number). You are NOT supposed to collect every skin in the game, its never been designed for that, its never been targeted or marketed as such. The fact that YOU decided you wanted to drop aprox. 5 grand buying them all because you want to be a completionist is entirely on you, not Riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Durzaka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8rWvVwbA,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-11-09T04:10:20.390+0000) > > > The fact that YOU decided you wanted to drop aprox. 5 grand buying them all because you want to be a completionist is entirely on you, not Riot. I think I read a story once where a skeleton said this to a drug addict.
: I don't get compulsive spending, you don't like what you got, but you spent anyways. This is indicative of a larger problem, consult a therapist.
> [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8rWvVwbA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-08T07:07:45.235+0000) > > I don't get compulsive spending, you don't like what you got, but you spent anyways. > > This is indicative of a larger problem, consult a therapist. If you'd been through business school, you would have been trained to capitalize on that problem.
chubb100 (NA)
: i agree. I am having a blast. I also love how games are 15 min or so.
> [{quoted}](name=chubb100,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z0KcOjxK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-02T22:17:00.664+0000) > > i agree. I am having a blast. I also love how games are 15 min or so. Same!
Ulanopo (NA)
: Proposed Rules Update to Gameplay Sub-Board (Feedback Wanted)
Most of these are far too arbitrary. Calling for an expansion of one's own powers is seldom popular.
: > [{quoted}](name=dnsup,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMFV9wR,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-10-31T00:01:25.342+0000) > > Wrong > > What enemy zed? I literally haven't played against a zed yet. > > Go somewhere else > > Go somewhere else > > No, it became a thing because ***the developers made it a thing***. That's how game production works. > > Here we see the problem: you (as in **you**, personally, not the "editorial you") don't like playing games of LoL unless you're winning. And since that's not going to happen about half of the time anyway, maybe you should just not play URF. Not wrong, you can't say my feelings of what is and isn't fun are wrong. Going somewhere else doesn't work when the enemy picks 5 of the most OP champions in URF. And why did the developers make it a thing? because they saw everyone picked the same champions every single game, so what did they do? they disabled 20 champions, but oh look, people now pick the next 10 most OP champions every game, so riot had no choice but ot make it ARURF so you could see more than 10 champions every game. Way to make assumptions, I can have fun even if I don't win, but there's a difference between losing, and getting stomped so hard that you can't even play the game.
> [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMFV9wR,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-31T07:11:10.043+0000) > > Not wrong, you can't say my feelings of what is and isn't fun are wrong. > > Going somewhere else doesn't work when the enemy picks 5 of the most OP champions in URF. > > And why did the developers make it a thing? because they saw everyone picked the same champions every single game, so what did they do? they disabled 20 champions, but oh look, people now pick the next 10 most OP champions every game, so riot had no choice but ot make it ARURF so you could see more than 10 champions every game. > > Way to make assumptions, I can have fun even if I don't win, but there's a difference between losing, and getting stomped so hard that you can't even play the game. Not my fault that you wrote your comment as if it contained universal truths.
: > [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nEO9yzZw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-29T16:05:39.965+0000) > > URF shouldn't be permanent. It gets immediately stale within a couple of games, because people abuse the same like 10 champions ad nauseum. It becomes a Pick or Play mode if you want to enjoy it, and even then, you can't actually enjoy it with champions you want to dick around with. The metas for URF evolve and lock in extremely fast, and all diversity gets cut off at the knees. In short, the game mode is toxic and unhealthy, because the community is incapable of appreciating it without turning it into a battle royale for cutthroat tryhards. That's why ARURF became a thing, to combat the community abuse, and it's why you now see so many people surprised with how terrible URF is now that they get to play it in all it's wretched glory. I certainly know what you mean, especially with jhin wearing yuumi as some kind of turbo charged jockstrap. I feel the bans go a long way to help, well until someone on the enemy team picks Zac. I do try to focus on macro when I know i cant absolutely stomp enemy players. Honestly i just like playing rylai ekko, so maybe I fall into the category of tryhard and just dont notice how unbearable it is to play something purely for shits and giggles. Still though, for all the stats and arguments. It's a game... lmao. Should just be able to play even if it's like one weekend out of the month, or one wee every other month, etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Panthaero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nEO9yzZw,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-10-29T23:02:28.746+0000) > > Still though, for all the stats and arguments. It's a game... lmao. Should just be able to play even if it's like one weekend out of the month, or one wee every other month, etc. You're talking about your experience of a game, so just remember that **you're right**. Don't let anyone gaslight you - the vocal minority of players who **detest URF** don't really listen to reason. People who don't like it don't have to play it, so why they get so angry about it is as mystifying today as it was in 2014.
: Riot, thank you so much for having Urf available to pick our own champions. :)
Agreed, thanks Riot. > [{quoted}](name=Post Mordem,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NgtT2RpZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-29T15:19:43.331+0000) > > it is not only halarious, even if I die, but enjoyable, too. > > So Thanks!! :D Agreed. As someone who *never* says it: thanks, Riot.
AIQ (NA)
: But... I'm having fun... the only complaint I have is when people are playing/being toxic. That's just normal though. Honestly I haven't ran into a champion that I was like, "well i'm screwed" not even Garen is as busted since he can't stack E. I think it's more people will be faster to type a complaint then a compliment. Personally URF either way doesn't change much for me I just enjoy it as a vacation from ranked and normal league.
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ujUv23Jl,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-29T15:49:46.760+0000) > > But... I'm having fun... the only complaint I have is when people are playing/being toxic. That's just normal though. > > Honestly I haven't ran into a champion that I was like, "well i'm screwed" not even Garen is as busted since he can't stack E. > > I think it's more people will be faster to type a complaint then a compliment. > > Personally URF either way doesn't change much for me I just enjoy it as a vacation from ranked and normal league. This is basically my experience, too. One thing to keep in mind, as you see all of these loud anti-URF posts (which we saw in 2014, 2015, 2016...) is this: **you can't play URF and write dozens of comments on the Boards simultaneously**. I.e., the people complaining aren't the ones playing it, and vice versa.
nGio (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Thilmer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2019-10-29T17:36:08.178+0000) > > This is the reason Riot had to make URF random in the first place: people playing the broken champions and ignoring 80% of the champions in the game. > > But it will be even worse when URF ends. You will constantly find people that ends the game 0-10 because they have played URF non-stop for two weeks and now they can't remember things like mana or CDs. > > The whole URF things is Riot greatest mistake in my opinion. Nah man, we won't go 0-10 in your precious near meaningless ranked games. A lot of us will just go back to playing other games instead of being shuffled back into LCS Simulator like fucking cattle. Holy shit dude, I remember when this used to be a game, and it was fun, before it became some giant shitty farm system.
> [{quoted}](name=nGio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=001a0000,timestamp=2019-10-30T04:02:43.035+0000) > > Nah man, we won't go 0-10 in your precious near meaningless ranked games. A lot of us will just go back to playing other games instead of being shuffled back into LCS Simulator like fucking cattle. lol, that was a great way of putting it.
: Because it is a temporary and the best mode, ranked is permanent boring shit.
> [{quoted}](name=FullmuteAll play,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=0024,timestamp=2019-10-30T01:17:00.652+0000) > > Because it is a temporary and the best mode, ranked is permanent boring shit. Bingo.
: i said it many times and will say it many more times: urf is the most toxic gamemode ever.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer17,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-10-29T14:49:23.833+0000) > > i said it many times and will say it many more times: urf is the most toxic gamemode ever. You mean *you are at your most toxic when you play URF*. I'm sorry you have that experience.
: I don't think you understand how urf has always been. There were Malzahar players that would literally end the game before 7mins so nobody even got IP. Or what is now Blue Essence.
If you didn't know how to deal with Malzahar during first URF, then I feel sorry for you.
Augean (NA)
: I played 4 ardent supports with 1 hyper carry Azir with a couple of friends and we had the most fun we've had in a while. Like many other people on here have said, URF is a place to do whatever you want. I've done AS/AP one shot Bard a few times just because he's one of my favorite champs and because one-shotting people as a support is humerous to the person playing it (Can't really say the same about the other person who's receiving it). 4 ardent support is fine let people do what they want in a game that's made for people to do what they want. On a side note I've only seen people talk about URF but not about ranked. I just wanted to see if I could get that convo going...
> [{quoted}](name=Augean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-10-29T16:03:34.596+0000) > > I played 4 ardent supports with 1 hyper carry Azir with a couple of friends and we had the most fun we've had in a while. Like many other people on here have said, URF is a place to do whatever you want. I've done AS/AP one shot Bard a few times just because he's one of my favorite champs and because one-shotting people as a support is humerous to the person playing it (Can't really say the same about the other person who's receiving it). 4 ardent support is fine let people do what they want in a game that's made for people to do what they want. > Exactly. > On a side note I've only seen people talk about URF but not about ranked. I just wanted to see if I could get that convo going... **Exactly**.
: Keep getting dodge bans from U.R.F anyone know why?
I've had it happen a couple of times, but I assumed it was some kind of client lag from my having opened the runes pane and not closing it quickly enough.
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QyAmAdkE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-30T05:31:07.249+0000) > > In my personal experience, every single game of URF has been a sweatfest, with little to no fun for both sides most of the problem is that elder dragon.. as its not hard to win if its handed to you on silver platter. each dragon gives a 20% damage swing, plus true burn damage, plus all the other stats. PER dragon is a lot of power to be given free at the 10 min mark of the game. add baron on top of that then its pretty ridiculous. the objectives are turning 100% the games in to 10 min laning phase followed by a stomp and forced end at 20 or ff after dragon goes down. this is anti fun when the game is so heavily dictated from one objective at the 10 min mark. and this makes the mode a far cry of what urf used to me when they first released it. when you consider before elder was added to urf there was at least a chance for some of the games to make it past 30 min and to have to have some back and fourth fights on longer games. those were always the more fun games at least for me even if i lost.. the dragon is also warping the picks massively and limiting them a lot. as you need to pick strong laners so you can contest dragon when it comes up..people would be more willing to pick more weak lane champs/for fun picks. if the mode was a little longer or if they dident have to worry about contesting dragon or getting stomped so hard immediately once the other team gets an elder. the pick warping from the short forced snowball games and dragon is causing a lot people to complain about urf vs arurf. which riot will use that to only do arurf from now on or worse not bring it back at all.. in the PBE people were telling riot that elder dragon was a problem and was anti fun and snowballing the games to hard..riot knew this but did not care. ** the forced objective interactions over op objective is basically encouraging people to more competitive/aka tryhards rather then to just have fun.**
Sometimes it seems as though Riot looked at the way that certain other regions played the game, and then *standardized* it as "the one true LoL".
: the real answer to URF is to run both Draft URF and ARURF simultaneously because forcing everyone into one has clearly failed
> [{quoted}](name=Unironic SJW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QyAmAdkE,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-10-30T23:41:25.399+0000) > > the real answer to URF is to run both Draft URF and ARURF simultaneously because forcing everyone into one has clearly failed I'm sure Rito would respond with a BS theoretical reason for not doing this, but I think that's not a bad idea.
0 Hogapu (EUW)
: Your tl;dr could apply to League in general tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=A3opΛbo6Λbo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QyAmAdkE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-30T13:28:44.770+0000) > > Your tl;dr could apply to League in general tbh. Exactly.
Anidan (NA)
: It was definitely like this the first year. Maybe you got lucky and didn't see it, but I distinctly remember the pre-ban days featuring Fizz, Vlad, Evelynn, Shaco, Wukong, Lux and Hecarim pretty much every single game. The goal of players in URF, a fun game-mode, has always been to make sure your enemy team doesn't get to have any fun at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Anidan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QyAmAdkE,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-10-30T17:44:14.430+0000) > > It was definitely like this the first year. If by "like this" you mean "fun", then sure.
Sandixcx (NA)
: urf has always been like this but for some reason everyone forgot when they were asking riot to bring it back
> [{quoted}](name=Sandixcx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QyAmAdkE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-30T11:49:40.978+0000) > > urf has always been like this Wrong
: So long as you were Hecarim, Evelynn, Garen, Ezreal, Urgot, Riven, and Sona. If you weren't them, you were just waiting to lose.
: Original URF lasted far longer than 8-10 mins.
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EVmrfcNK,comment-id=000000020001,timestamp=2019-10-29T11:50:35.410+0000) > > Original URF lasted far longer than 8-10 mins. Good point. And that's just one of **many** key differences that people complaining now (which are an **extremely vocal** minority, I think) are apparently unable to admit to themselves. Instead it's all "URF sucks because URF was never fun" on the Boards right now. Whatever the case, I'm having plenty of fun with it as usual.
: > [{quoted}](name=KABLUMP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMFV9wR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-30T18:34:55.796+0000) > > I mean, yeah that's how they have fun. just do your thing and have fun > > why do you care? just play what you like and learn to play it on urf > > Nope, I ban 'none' and lock in what i feel like playing > > if I'm losing the match will be over in 10-20 minutes They care because you can't have fun if yu're getting curbstomped, good luck doing anything as rek`sai when the enemy zed is camping you under your tower, good luck doing anything as darius when the enemy lux is bombarding you with spells non stop, this is the reason why ARURF became a thing because you either pick an OP champion or you get curbstomped the entire game.
> [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMFV9wR,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-30T18:55:29.149+0000) > > They care because you can't have fun if yu're getting curbstomped, Wrong > good luck doing anything as rek`sai when the enemy zed What enemy zed? I literally haven't played against a zed yet. > is camping you under your tower, Go somewhere else > good luck doing anything as darius when the enemy lux is bombarding you with spells non stop, Go somewhere else > this is the reason why ARURF became a thing No, it became a thing because ***the developers made it a thing***. That's how game production works. > because you either pick an OP champion or you get curbstomped the entire game. Here we see the problem: you (as in **you**, personally, not the "editorial you") don't like playing games of LoL unless you're winning. And since that's not going to happen about half of the time anyway, maybe you should just not play URF.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: URF was never fun... People as always live by nostalgia worshipping crap. Just like people dream about old league where YI AP MID was destroying entire games by single q and was healing to full with W when damaged.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uPMFV9wR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-30T18:05:50.041+0000) > > URF was never fun... Wrong. People loved it. > People as always live by nostalgia worshipping crap. Some people certainly do, but this doesn't support your argument at all. > Just like people dream about old league where YI AP MID was destroying entire games by single q and was healing to full with W when damaged. ... who, exactly? I haven't seen anyone say anything like that at all - **until now**. Which is to say, perhaps your comments have more to do with projection than anything else.
PategoPá (EUW)
: Should I even bother reporting all the bots in ARAM? (@ Levels below 30)
: If bots were banned as soon as they were detected: A) Bot creators would make tons and tons more bots (see increased birthrate when infant mortality is high in humans and in animals) and B) accounts that were not banned immediately would be guaranteed to have not been detected, increasing demand for botted accounts. Banning the accounts after they've been sold is the best for reducing the number of bots created (as the creators don't care if they're banned after selling) and reducing demand because it's a very risky purchase.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cYs79te4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-19T01:27:12.171+0000) > > see increased birthrate when infant mortality is high in humans and in animals That reasoning isn't applicable here.
: This is a take that only people who have never competed in sports come up with. Why do you have to be nice to people that are bad at things like I genuinely dont understand. If I do something stupid that costs us the game I deserve to get flamed. Same for anyone on my team that does something they shouldnt have it's pretty simple.
> [{quoted}](name=Niggel Wessom,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=w0H8h5c7,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-10-18T00:56:38.356+0000) > > This is a take that only people who have never competed in sports come up with. Why do you have to be nice to people that are bad at things like I genuinely dont understand. If I do something stupid that costs us the game I deserve to get flamed. Same for anyone on my team that does something they shouldnt have it's pretty simple. Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. Even from the simplified utility-centered point-of-view... you have no idea what you're talking about.
iMidg3t (EUW)
: It would be nice if you promoted some smaller (or famous) LoL content creators, and not fucking HS streamers...
Seriously, Riot's marketing pranksters shouldn't have this much free rein.
: Finally someone who can explain it in a normal fking way In my country we dont use AM or PM or any of the BST PDT CEST it does nothing but cause confusion. 21:00 is at least something all people fking know.
[PDT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,3-Propanedithiol)
MrCatling (EUW)
: germany?
> [{quoted}](name=MrCatling,realm=EUW,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=gxrlQZV7,comment-id=000c00010007,timestamp=2019-10-17T16:19:17.186+0000) > > germany? germamy
: I don't get how you say bot lane is free food when they are doing the eating. ADC out damage top/life steal/critical damage/attack speed/mobility where as top has to burst the bot lane down (ADC) to ensure they win. I never understand why Bot laners are the one complaining when they are the one doing the most damage.The damage you complain about also transfer to ADC not just top.
> [{quoted}](name=LegendmakerGTX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iK9j2oBA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-17T03:24:34.162+0000) > > I never understand why Bot laners are the one complaining when they are the one doing the most damage. Because they want to be Batman AND Robin. Maybe they already do the most damage, but do they also do the 2nd most damage? No? Then it's time to give them more damage!
: /dev: Let’s Talk About URF
This is one of those rare /dev posts that contains several nearly forthright statements on a topic about which Riot was tight-lipped and/or thoroughly dishonest in previous years. I would say "thanks, Riot," but I don't want to do anything *that* immoral. So, y'know...: "okay, Riot." I hope it's enough to know that I'm excited about this (even if pessimistic on the whole).
: > [{quoted}](name=ZackTheWaffleMan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1q9PAzAf,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-10-15T18:07:24.488+0000) > > Plot Twist > > It's a card game anime Children's card games, just what we need
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1q9PAzAf,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-10-15T19:19:50.940+0000) > > Children's card games, just what we need [... I have this terrible feeling...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLYzsRtpr4&list=PLTagxffHmpfT765IfQj68dMmfFs3W7s1f&index=51&t=547)
: Mods have no connection to the League dev team at all, but alright.
That's only half-true (though the point is moot in this context anyway - nothing within reason to actually be conveyed to anyone by anyone).
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Why they even have Riot-made boards if they only use reddit. Just remove forum and put a redirecting link to reddit in its place... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RvRzvWlQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-15T16:25:01.125+0000) > > Why they even have Riot-made boards if they only use reddit. Just remove forum and put a redirecting link to reddit in its place... > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} That would at least be honest, if destructive.
: > [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RvRzvWlQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-15T15:53:08.322+0000) Yeah with all the death threats and shit people post here that are directed towards Rioters on a near daily basis, I wouldn't come here either if I was a Red. I honestly feel bad for every Rioter that comes here and endures the abuse of the boards, but I respect them at the same time, cause it takes a lot of self control not to go off on you people on a daily basis. But you guys give them shit either way. They post, you harass and threaten them for shit that isn't their fault. They don't post, you give them shit for not posting. So do you want them here or not? Make up your minds and make an effort to make the boards more welcoming for them, and maybe they'd bother to come here more.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RvRzvWlQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-15T16:11:18.768+0000) > > Yeah with all the death threats and shit people post here that are directed towards Rioters on a near daily basis, I wouldn't come here either if I was a Red. I honestly feel bad for every Rioter that comes here and endures the abuse of the boards, but I respect them at the same time, cause it takes a lot of self control not to go off on you people on a daily basis. > > But you guys give them shit either way. They post, you harass and threaten them for shit that isn't their fault. They don't post, you give them shit for not posting. So do you want them here or not? Make up your minds and make an effort to make the boards more welcoming for them, and maybe they'd bother to come here more. You're talking to an aggregate, and only one view of it (your own). Come back when you can tease apart the many aspects (by human means or with the aid of technology) like everyone else who deserves to have a voice.
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