: Keyru has lied to us about arbiters
If arbiters are really not RIot employees then how come they have information as to why your account was suspended and when it was suspended? Thought so, /thread.
: I thought that at first too, but it also could be that they ARE a member of the oceanic moderators but NOT a part of the NA moderators. That said, arbiters and moderators might not be mutually exclusive. It is probably possible to be an arbiter and a moderator. So it doesn't necessarily mean anything anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=SmokedAlmonds,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=P4TeNqtJ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-08-04T19:37:21.247+0000) > > I thought that at first too, but it also could be that they ARE a member of the oceanic moderators but NOT a part of the NA moderators. > > That said, arbiters and moderators might not be mutually exclusive. It is probably possible to be an arbiter and a moderator. So it doesn't necessarily mean anything anyway. If you're paid by riot, youre a rioter, stop trying to defend the lie told to the public. For all i know all you could be one of them.
: Keyru has lied to us about arbiters
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=P4TeNqtJ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-08-04T19:33:33.703+0000) > > ? > > So someone being a mod on OCE boards can't be a volunteer on NA boards? > > what are you trying to spew -_- The person employed by riot from a different region did have information about users on this region of board that regular players dont have. It is clear that arbiters arent normal human beings but are employed by riot.
: My mistake, turns out Wuks is part of the Oceania moderation team. I stand corrected.
> [{quoted}](name=4maskwolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=P4TeNqtJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-04T19:31:21.111+0000) > > erm... > > That was a mistype where they missed putting a "not". > > Further down you see the phrase "but I will reiterate again, I am not part of the North American Moderation Team" > > Chill out over simple typos, you sound like you're playing mafia. Can you even comprehend? He/she is a moderator from a different region, he/she claim there are not part of the "NA" boards. Just delete this post like that moderator did after realizing his/her mistake. http://i.imgur.com/cYiHzCZ.jpg[/img]
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: Absolutely wrong. The number of players that report you in a match has no influence on whether or not you get banned. One report is enough to trigger a review of the chat logs. However, Riot understands that every player has off days and will slip up. Players that don't normally exhibit bad behaviour will likely not receive punishments even if they were being a little toxic in the occasional game. Players that are frequently toxic, troll, and harass other players will start to receive punishments based off of a 4-tier system. 10 day chat ban, 25 day chat ban, 14 day suspension, and finally a permanent suspension. In some cases where the player was found to be cheating, using hate speech, racism, sexism, or threats their account can be escalated to a suspension. The system establishes a pattern of behaviour and punishes the players that are more frequently toxic in game. When players continue to display bad behaviour in game they will continue to climb the 4-tier ladder of punishments with the system giving less leeway for each punishment.
> [{quoted}](name=HexaDecimel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AlJXxRlW,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-08-03T20:57:37.987+0000) > > Absolutely wrong. The number of players that report you in a match has no influence on whether or not you get banned. One report is enough to trigger a review of the chat logs. However, Riot understands that every player has off days and will slip up. Players that don't normally exhibit bad behaviour will likely not receive punishments even if they were being a little toxic in the occasional game. > > Players that are frequently toxic, troll, and harass other players will start to receive punishments based off of a 4-tier system. 10 day chat ban, 25 day chat ban, 14 day suspension, and finally a permanent suspension. In some cases where the player was found to be cheating, using hate speech, racism, sexism, or threats their account can be escalated to a suspension. > > The system establishes a pattern of behaviour and punishes the players that are more frequently toxic in game. When players continue to display bad behaviour in game they will continue to climb the 4-tier ladder of punishments with the system giving less leeway for each punishment. Once again based off my personal experience in the opinion that I've stated with probably/might/if, every time I've reported someone whose chat log is filled with toxicity I never instantly receive the typical "thank you for reporting blah blah action has been taken blah blah" message, but when someone whose chat is filled with toxicity is obviously reported by the entire team and I, I tend to receive the "thank you for reporting blah blah" message almost instantly and much more frequently the minute I exit out the end game lobby.
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: How works the report system in LoL ?
If reported by multiple people then chances are actions against that player might be taken instantly possibly based off the requirement described in the above post, if not and you're the only one who has reported the player then chances are it will take a long time for that player to be punished, including submitting a ticket. The punishment might also depend on the severity of the committed action and repeated offense, and yes a punish message will be sent out to the player via email with the proof/action of what caused the player to be punished. Punishment range from 1 day, 7 days, 14 days, and permanent bans. This is based off my personal experience and might be different from others.
: I think maybe you don't realize that TheCurator is one person, and is the only visible moderator (we're not counting the guy that posted twice in 9 months). Contrary to popular belief, he is not a bot and needs rest, so will not be able to answer questions directed at boards moderators at all times. Moderator action and notifications of such still happens 24/7. Edit: Looking at that thread more now, this was already addressed. In English, I might add.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VQ8rVdIN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-03T18:22:00.923+0000) > > I think maybe you don't realize that TheCurator is one person, and is the only visible moderator (we're not counting the guy that posted twice in 9 months). Contrary to popular belief, he is not a bot and needs rest, so will not be able to answer questions directed at boards moderators at all times. Moderator action and notifications of such still happens 24/7. > > Edit: Looking at that thread more now, this was already addressed. In English, I might add. Not sure what's your point when I've clearly addressed this, > [{quoted}](name=elenkelerQueryu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VQ8rVdIN,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-03T17:52:17.104+0000) >** Having to wait on one person out of many after submitting a thread in this section of boards is pretty dumb** Could you at least try to contribute something to this/these conversation(s) instead of nothing and boosting your lifetime upvotes for posting irrelevant unproductive bias comments that arent likely to generate any sort of conversation toward the actual topic?
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Wuks (NA)
: Hey elenkelerQueryu, To report players who commit offenses outside of matches or who violate the Terms of Service but don't fall under one of the standard categories, you can send Riot a report by [submitting a ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to Riot Games Player Support with a screenshot of the said offenses and any additional information that you'd like to add. **If you're unsure which category to submit your ticket under, just select:** [*I have a question about League of Legends/Riot Games.*] > [*Game and Features*] > [*General Questions*] Thank you for your diligence.
> [{quoted}](name=Wuks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Fpp3qEfL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-03T17:41:31.067+0000) > > Hey elenkelerQueryu, > > To report players who commit offenses outside of matches or who violate the Terms of Service but don't fall under one of the standard categories, you can send Riot a report by [submitting a ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to Riot Games Player Support with a screenshot of the said offenses and any additional information that you'd like to add. > > **If you're unsure which category to submit your ticket under, just select:** > [*I have a question about League of Legends/Riot Games.*] > [*Game and Features*] > [*General Questions*] > > Thank you for your diligence. In other words, send it to the trash bin, nice to know nothing will get done for almost a 1/2 or an entire month.
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: Why wouldn't they delete this too if that was going on?
> [{quoted}](name=SmokedAlmonds,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6sYmcdOc,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-03T17:05:40.400+0000) > > Why wouldn't they delete this too if that was going on? Because it has no proof in it and makes it look like I'm lying.
: You're unable to post proof because no such thing has happened. If you are having a disagreement with boards moderation practices that can't be resolved here, you can submit a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new). Boards moderation is handled by a third party, and they do not have access to your tickets.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6sYmcdOc,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-03T10:18:02.806+0000) > > You're unable to post proof because no such thing has happened. > > If you are having a disagreement with boards moderation practices that can't be resolved here, you can submit a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new). Boards moderation is handled by a third party, and they do not have access to your tickets. I'm guessing you're also another smurf mod, clearly I do have proof and has gotten my previous thread/post deleted by posting the proof by accident. And FYI tickets do absolutely nothing in term of moderation, it just goes in the trash bin, and is a waste of time.
Dynikus (NA)
: what are you talking about?
> [{quoted}](name=dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6sYmcdOc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-03T09:51:38.313+0000) > > what are you talking about? Mods are funding 3rd parties and encouraging them to beg for donations on these boards. I am unable to post proof because the mods will delete it and silence me.
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: @Riot Why do mods want me to post a board suggestion in Player Behavior & Moderation when
Still waiting on that rule, why play the devil's advocate if you cant link your source?
Wuks (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Wuks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kqeVEFJi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-03T07:52:38.629+0000) > > Hi there, > > I'm one of the moderators on the Oceania side, but I don't represent the moderation team here on North America. With that being said, I'm looking at the content removed on August 2, 2016 at 20:32:11 PDT, and it appears you may have referenced another thread in your thread, in which you (whether intentionally or unintentionally) called attention to someone's Boards behavior. It's important to adhere to the Boards Guidelines, namely the rule against Naming and Shaming. If you have any concerns regarding how moderation is done or have suggestions to the Boards Guidelines, through the same means mentioned in the ticket, you can contact Riot Games Player Support, who can forward your request appropriately. So linking a link from sticky thread stickied by riot's moderation as an example of a suggestion without calling out someone is breaking the rules? If you're strict about naming and shaming even when it wasnt the purpose of the thread then Why werent any threads deleted when I was calling out Keyru then? http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/rZdtoOI6-riot-why-do-mods-want-me-to-post-a-board-suggestion-in-player-behavior-moderation-when Why play favoritism, and try to hide it? You are allowing a 3rd party to beg for donation on this site, and riot probably doesn't even know it because you're hiding it pretty well. Not only that but you yourself have personally funded that 3rd party which clearly shows some sort of favoritism on this board toward a non riot employee. How can Riot even allow their employee to do such a thing and expect them to pass on a fair judgement on their boards? It's really sad when the other moderators from the other communities have to be invasive and disrupt/fillin in other communities where things/cultures are supposed to be different. That would explain why the moderation feels a whole lot like mao zedong style of communism and why it has changed so much over a single update. Can you stick to your own rule and at least reply in the thread where I submitted the inquiry http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/11R8bPIY-why-was-my-thread-suggesting-for-donation-request-from-third-parties-to-be-removed-from-boards instead of further embarrassing the NA mods and doing their job for them in the wrong thread/subject? Because this thread isnt about this single instance, or my experience alone, but many which clearly triggered the inquiry. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/rZdtoOI6-riot-why-do-mods-want-me-to-post-a-board-suggestion-in-player-behavior-moderation-when
: thats a tough problem! i mean its only a video game and real life stuff comes up, especially when some of these games take almost an hour. but if you go afk for 2 minutes to hit the bathroom, that is enough to lose the game sometimes. are you really going to say you have to sit at your cpu and not get up for any reason from a video game for 1 hour?
> [{quoted}](name=TASTE MY DUST,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EvRmNNqt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-03T04:34:44.532+0000) > > thats a tough problem! i mean its only a video game and real life stuff comes up, especially when some of these games take almost an hour. but if you go afk for 2 minutes to hit the bathroom, that is enough to lose the game sometimes. > > are you really going to say you have to sit at your cpu and not get up for any reason from a video game for 1 hour? Sadly the people who suggested this feature really didnt care about any RL stuff that takes 2-4 min, riot adopted it and thought the same. At least in Dota 2 you're allowed to pause the game for yourself, teammates, or opponents. Valve's engineers really went deep into design and knew what the players or gamers go through.
: ok. il stop posting it, but can i at least have the boards suspension removed
You're really not going to get anywhere, moderators are out of controls and are using their smurfs to justify their wrong doing in this section of boards which is a giant training ground for their new hire. There's absolutely 0 visible moderation, and riot will take weeks if not months to answer a submitted ticket regarding the moderators actions. It makes absolutely 0 sense to create a section where wannabe moderators/behavorspecialist are the only people available to answer questions regarding someone's inquiry about a ban or thread removal. That's like going to a nurse/emt for a medical check up instead of an actual doctor. The amateurs have no knowledge of RIot's internal policies/procedures.
: Wait did you try to ask for money from others? any form of money transfering hands is breaking tos. unless your paying RIOT GAMES so asking a question that involves money is like saying we don't to pay riot games anymore im guessing that is why your posts were removed they linked you to player moderation probs due to the fact that there is no board for asking for money and they're more or less saying stop asking for it or you will be the next story on that board :D or their automated system is bad(my money is on this one) edit ignore all of the above rediting my post so basically you attempted to call out a group of people all at once. You can report board posts each and everytime you see them. They get taken down fairly quickly. watch post in team recruitment offering to boost people for donations. your post will be removed within an hr(more or less)
> [{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=11R8bPIY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-03T03:56:46.448+0000) > > Wait did you try to ask for money from others? > any form of money transfering hands is breaking tos. unless your paying RIOT GAMES > so asking a question that involves money is like saying we don't to pay riot games anymore > im guessing that is why your posts were removed > they linked you to player moderation probs due to the fact that there is no board for asking for money > and they're more or less saying stop asking for it or you will be the next story on that board :D > or their automated system is bad(my money is on this one) > > > edit ignore all of the above > rediting my post > > > so basically you attempted to call out a group of people all at once. You can report board posts each and everytime you see them. They get taken down fairly quickly. watch post in team recruitment offering to boost people for donations. your post will be removed within an hr(more or less) I wasnt reporting anyone, given that moderators are always so quick to delete your thread for posting where they dont want you to; It isnt my job to to their job. My thread was only a suggestion with an example to prevent such request to become a norm on boards. Because moderators themselves allowed the request to stay up a very long period of time even after reading it and posting in it which makes it informally OK.
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: yours is about talking to X, that is interaction between people. The boards says anything about a person needs to be in player behavior, cause Rioters are just players also. Its RIto logic. Remember Riot does not run the boards and Riot stance is that these are player boards aka a place for player to talk. They are not a place to necessarily get a place to get a hold of a rioter. Riot may or may not check threads and reply at their digression and make no promises to talk to the players through the boards. I personally can see merit in both locations for your topic. The 2nd topic is purely a system topic where the report function of the boards is getting expanded. 0 actual interaction with another person/player. This is how your 2 threads are different.
> [{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rZdtoOI6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-02T01:16:43.750+0000) > > yours is about talking to X, that is interaction between people. The boards says anything about a person needs to be in player bhavior, cause Rioters are just players also. Its RIto logic. > > Remember Riot does not run the boards and Riot stance is that these are player boards aka a place for player to talk. They are not a place to necessarily get a place to get a hold of a rioter. Riot may or may not check threads and reply at their digression and make no promises to talk to the players through the boards. > > I personally can see merit in both locations for your topic. > > The 2nd topic is purely a system topic where the report function of the boards is getting expanded. 0 actual interaction with another person/player. This is how your 2 threads are different. You do realize I simply copy paste the same thread and replaced his subject with Riot/contacting right? > [{quoted}](name=BLU Medic,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=TW3sXc3T,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-25T16:09:49.824+0000) > > Can we please add more options for reporting. Currently the four options, harrassment, offensive, spamming and incorrect board barely cover anything. We should have other options. - Baiting Arguments - Ban Avoiding - Impersonation - Other - this would have a box in which you can enter a specific reason not covered by other options. Also, we should be able to more easily report threads and users, outside of just reporting their comments. More specific report options would greatly speed up moderation as mods can more quickly understand why something is reported. "Can we please add more options for contacting. Currently the option is through submitting a ticket which barely cover anything. We should have other options. A button to submit a PM to an Actual Red who is in charge of boards. A contact email for the third party moderation Other - this would have a box in which you can enter a specific reason not covered by other options. More options to contract Riot regarding moderation would greatly speed up the confusion and headaches that moderators are currently giving the community." And where's that rule that excludes interaction from other boards and limits it to player and behavior?
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: try reposting in board feed back if you think the mod was wrong. Though maybe reevalute what you were saying and see if it is a behavior issue instead of a techical or feature issue. Might need to just approach from a different angle Board feed back is only supposed to be technical features that are not about how people act.
> [{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rZdtoOI6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-02T00:45:39.351+0000) > Board feed back is only supposed to be technical features that are not about how people act. I see no difference between my sugestion http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/site-feedback/NiX52sti-more-options-for-contacting-rioters-through-board and this post which is allowed to stay there http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/site-feedback/TW3sXc3T-more-options-when-reporting Now if I insert a simple picture showing proof as to why we need the improvement it disappear which is proof that moderation dont read the actual content but look the images and jump to conclusion.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Commbustion,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=yJlJY77w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T05:59:29.988+0000) > > If it's a suggestion about the ranking system and how it could more accurately determine your skill level. Under what board would I put that? If it's a full-blown rework of how Ranked works, then Concepts & Creations. If it's just feedback or a small suggestion to tweak how it works in its current form, then Gameplay.
> [{quoted}](name=TheCurator,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=yJlJY77w,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T22:07:59.126+0000) > > If it's a full-blown rework of how Ranked works, then Concepts & Creations. If it's just feedback or a small suggestion to tweak how it works in its current form, then Gameplay. Yep, this is dumb and so is the moderation. Why not just implement a sugestion section instead of having the players play wack a mole which will leave them confused once their suggestion is deleted, and might eventually get them banned if they have too many warnings?
Treune81 (NA)
: I'm lv 8 but my boards lv is looking 5
: Why not just post it in meme form on memes and games. Won't get deleted if meme-ified Memes and games is super easy to get to hot page Has most traffic Gets reds as often if not more so than gameplay Has at least 5 times the Spiderman of the roleplay boards
> [{quoted}](name=ThePartyLeader,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=qVwyTRIE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-01T13:22:43.266+0000) > > Why not just post it in meme form on memes and games. > Won't get deleted if meme-ified > Memes and games is super easy to get to hot page > Has most traffic > Gets reds as often if not more so than gameplay > Has at least 5 times the Spiderman of the roleplay boards I'm pretty sure those grade A mods will find an excuse to take it down.
: Remake system is garbage
Remake is indeed trash, but you're looking at the same lazy people who were too lazy to roll back on any screw up they've done in the past. Board, bad idea, tamat gone. New match making, total trash, Lyte gone. Juggernaut rework, so garbage, BaconHawk, gone. The list just goes on, by the end of the day we can all agree that RIot will never take a step back no matter how badly they screwed up.
: Some of the Captcha Pictures are Really Unclear
http://imgur.com/a/xacOg Yep captcha is shit.
: So sad. You are not authorised
The sadistic feature implemented by Riot has been there for a while in order to prevent spam/downvotebots. Knowing Riot they're probably too lazy to hire a 3rd party to do their job as usual.
: Advanced Search/Keyword Filter
In the mean time you can use google.
Zelnick (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCurator,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=qVwyTRIE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-01T00:14:54.495+0000) > > If there is not a specific sub-Section that pertains to your topic, then you can post it in Miscellaneous. That section exists specifically to house the conversations that have no other place for them. > > Boards Feedback is specifically for feedback about the Boards themselves. That is why no other topics are allowed here. But it isn't random, these kinds of topics shouldn't be grouped with other things unrelated to them, there's no reason not to have a section about the client platform you're using every time.
> [{quoted}](name=Zelnick,realm=NA,application-id=bzRrPGQO,discussion-id=qVwyTRIE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-08-01T01:51:23.750+0000) > > But it isn't random, these kinds of topics shouldn't be grouped with other things unrelated to them, there's no reason not to have a section about the league client. Think the best part out of all of this is how the top notch moderator is ignoring my screenshot, notice that riot themselves are not directing you anywhere near misc? Even the EU boards have a suggestion section.
Zelnick (NA)
: Can we PLEASE have an actual GAME feedback section and not just boards feedback?
Yeah, we all know RIOT's moderation is trash. http://i.imgur.com/4Mp1fZv.jpg[/img] Back in the days you were allowed to submit a ticket personally for suggestions, I submitted one comparing RO's flash animation to League's client splash art, and next thing you knew RIOT introduced the animated intro in their client. It felt really cool, but now you have to go through this Chinese censorship type of like moderation where mods are making sure you dont submit a suggestion that will have any type of effect on getting rid of them.

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