PCPolice (NA)
: Suspended for leaving lane with someone who started saying threatening things and hate speech
: Is ranked more or less toxic than normals (in your opinion/experience)?
I honestly never encountered this toxicity people are always talking about. Some people have really interesting ways of enjoying the game, never really met someone who was being "toxic". League actually has one of the best , if not the best community on the internet.
: She's already a 52% champ.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PBsd6mKh,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-12-12T18:33:35.712+0000) > > She's already a 52% champ. She isn't op though.
: Thank you riot for getting rid of the Penalty on Support..... but why a Nami Buff?
If anything her e should add a root if all of its bubbles hit one Target
: Thank you riot for getting rid of the Penalty on Support..... but why a Nami Buff?
Probably so you can play nami with a mage carry. Makes perfect sense. Making a champion abilities not useful really isn't a buff, it's more of a hotfix.
: You seem to have this notion that because the meta has traditionally has an ADC bot lane with a Support who gets a gold income item and funnels farm to the ADC that the game must be played this way. There are plenty of other strategies who run a duo carry bot lane and share CS. You think because you queued ADC that you are now entitled to the CS bot lane, which is false thinking on your part. Being that many people believe support income items aren't worth buying anymore, you will see a lot more people not purchasing the item and just sharing farm bot lane. You don't own the lane, you are sharing that lane with another person. If you don't like that, you should go to a solo lane where you likely won't have to share farm at all. tl;dr: A support is not your bitch. Stop acting like you own bot lane.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-12-12T14:04:45.555+0000) > > You seem to have this notion that because the meta has traditionally has an ADC bot lane with a Support who gets a gold income item and funnels farm to the ADC that the game must be played this way. There are plenty of other strategies who run a duo carry bot lane and share CS. You think because you queued ADC that you are now entitled to the CS bot lane, which is false thinking on your part. Being that many people believe support income items aren't worth buying anymore, you will see a lot more people not purchasing the item and just sharing farm bot lane. You don't own the lane, you are sharing that lane with another person. If you don't like that, you should go to a solo lane where you likely won't have to share farm at all. > > tl;dr: A support is not your bitch. Stop acting like you own bot lane. Again. You didn't read or care to respond to my arguement. At no power point in time did I say "I own cs". Counter arguing points that are being made. I think it's extremely toxic for a support to actively sit and last hit cs the bot carry is obviously going for. That's not team work that's not going off meta, that's not strategy. That's intentionally sabatoging another player. There are plenty of gold generation options for supports that don't involve purposely working against your team. Other players on the team are depending the person assigned bottom to have a good cs score. So working against that is not only toxic and position stealing , it's hurting 3 other people on the team. It's about role assignment and trying to win. Activitely working against winning has no place in soloq. Riot doesn't think it should not does the community. That support player doesn't own the team either. You people keep saying that I don't own the land, but the support does? That's bullshit.
rujitra (NA)
: Please feel free to tell me where Riot has **ever** said/enforced a "funnel" meta. In fact, Riot is adamantly against any meta in which any funnel strategy is taking place - as is most of the community. League of Legends is and always has been a team game - and funnel strategies are contrary to this. Supports can CS when the bot lane isn't there, and they can also CS when the bot lane *is* there. The solution is to discuss with the support - nobody is going to want to cooperate with someone who's bitching and demanding things from them. There are many supports on which CSing is a virtual requirement to be able to get the gold necessary for items to be useful. For these supports, not taking a support item and instead utilizing control wards (which the CS helps with too, by the way) is a viable strategy.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=0000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-11T22:47:12.614+0000) > > Please feel free to tell me where Riot has **ever** said/enforced a "funnel" meta. In fact, Riot is adamantly against any meta in which any funnel strategy is taking place - as is most of the community. League of Legends is and always has been a team game - and funnel strategies are contrary to this. > > Supports can CS when the bot lane isn't there, and they can also CS when the bot lane *is* there. The solution is to discuss with the support - nobody is going to want to cooperate with someone who's bitching and demanding things from them. There are many supports on which CSing is a virtual requirement to be able to get the gold necessary for items to be useful. For these supports, not taking a support item and instead utilizing control wards (which the CS helps with too, by the way) is a viable strategy. I think you are having a different conversation than me. Three other people's game play experienced was harmed due to one person not playing the role they were assigned. This isn't funneling. Funneling is when you have a whole team working together to get one person fun. This is someone intentionally interfering with what you are trying to accomplish. Imagine if someone followed you around the jungle just to last his jungle camps, then go around saying "its anyone's camp". You're confusing funneling with a lane assignment trying to do their assigned role. I highly doubt that role assignments are condsidered light suggestions by riot or the community. That person was free to go to any lane and CS. Targeting the CS in the lane that I AM FUCKING ASSIGNED TO is intentionally trolling/inting in a game.
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=excelsheet1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-11T20:10:21.965+0000) > > The game isn't designed that way. I don't check every game that the support has the support item. If the player wanted the cs and carry role Im more then flexible to accommodate. But, to intentionally sabatoge the role I am expected to play should be punishable. The other three players are also depending on bot lane carry to have gold for items. It's extremely disruptive to the game play experience for the support to steal cs and not get support items. While I get it can be frustrating to have someone intentionally try to take CS from you, CS doesn't belong to any one person exclusively. Also, what if someone is playing a more burst or damage oriented support like Brand or Malzahar? For those characters they may feel like a more traditional support item not as fitting as other more damage oriented items. That's the problem with your proposal: it just sounds like you just want people who don't play how _you_ want them to to be punished, which isn't very fair or mature.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T20:20:29.039+0000) > > While I get it can be frustrating to have someone intentionally try to take CS from you, CS doesn't belong to any one person exclusively. Also, what if someone is playing a more burst or damage oriented support like Brand or Malzahar? For those characters they may feel like a more traditional support item not as fitting as other more damage oriented items. That's the problem with your proposal: it just sounds like you just want people who don't play how _you_ want them to to be punished, which isn't very fair or mature. I don't sound like that at all. I don't care , for instance, we are at a point in the game whens it's advantageous to shove the lane out and the support takes cs along the way. It's when I am very deliberately trying to cs and the support is very deliberately , interfering with how I am trying to play MY role.
Prandine (NA)
: Is it a requirement? No. Is it a punishable offense? No. You can always ask them to take one but they don't want to then that's their choice and you shouldn't pester them about it. Besides if you notice your team needs something but no one is building it then you could always try adapting your build to suit the teams needs in that moment or two. If the player in question does start misbehaving though then you can always just report them after the game, just like they can report you if you yourself start throwing a fit for not getting your way.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-11T19:36:18.860+0000) > > Is it a requirement? No. Is it a punishable offense? No. You can always ask them to take one but they don't want to then that's their choice and you shouldn't pester them about it. Besides if you notice your team needs something but no one is building it then you could always try adapting your build to suit the teams needs in that moment or two. If the player in question does start misbehaving though then you can always just report them after the game, just like they can report you if you yourself start throwing a fit for not getting your way. The game isn't designed that way. I don't check every game that the support has the support item. If the player wanted the cs and carry role Im more then flexible to accommodate. But, to intentionally sabatoge the role I am expected to play should be punishable. The other three players are also depending on bot lane carry to have gold for items. It's extremely disruptive to the game play experience for the support to steal cs and not get support items.
rujitra (NA)
: In the duo bot lane, the support and the ADC share the lane. Nobody owns CS. Nobody is forced to “funnel” CS, kills, or experience to the ADC. Since you disagree and you want a lane where there isn’t another person you have to share with, you should play a solo lane.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T19:34:35.142+0000) > > In the duo bot lane, the support and the ADC share the lane. Nobody owns CS. Nobody is forced to “funnel” CS, kills, or experience to the ADC. > > Since you disagree and you want a lane where there isn’t another person you have to share with, you should play a solo lane. I think that is a rediculous notion. The game and it's items are literally designed so that the bot lane carry can have gold from cs and the support gets gold from support items. Playing otherwise severely and intentionally harms the gameplay experience of others.
: You wrote this on a phone. xD I know you meant to say cs, but I know that grand theft auto is definitely a criminal offense. :P So, the supports are not required to take the support item, and what rujitra means is that if you flame your support for not having one, they're gonna make your lane *even more hell* than they already are if they decide to make a statement about it. However, I'd say go ahead - ask them to get a support item, and when they start flaming you in chat and inting your lane for having the mentality of Nubrac, then your report is valid af. If they're essentially throwing anyway, then politely ask them to perform a corrective action, and when they pop off, mute them and report.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-11T18:50:18.534+0000) > > You wrote this on a phone. xD > > I know you meant to say cs, but I know that grand theft auto is definitely a criminal offense. :P > > So, the supports are not required to take the support item, and what rujitra means is that if you flame your support for not having one, they're gonna make your lane *even more hell* than they already are if they decide to make a statement about it. > > However, I'd say go ahead - ask them to get a support item, and when they start flaming you in chat and inting your lane for having the mentality of Nubrac, then your report is valid af. If they're essentially throwing anyway, then politely ask them to perform a corrective action, and when they pop off, mute them and report. This wasn't about pushing the wave out. This was about intentionally making it harder for me to cs when they were assigned the support role. It's not about oops I used an ability on a wave. It's the activity trying to sabatoge the person your laning with. I'm pretty that persons is going to be banned eventually as they are no trolling the support role. I think it should be an easy 14 day ban. If they wanted to be the carry role, I would have been more than accomdating
rujitra (NA)
: If you want to play in a solo lane you should do that.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T17:48:31.236+0000) > > If you want to play in a solo lane you should do that. What?
Rioter Comments
: It is not required for the support to take the support item. It makes more sense for them to at the beginning so income isn't split in lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nn2obQIm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-11T17:10:27.478+0000) > > It is not required for the support to take the support item. It makes more sense for them to at the beginning so income isn't split in lane. Lame
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Jacksin (OCE)
: 14-day suspension over a single game of which I was not abusive towards a player at all.
The person who banned you and the person who didn't ban you need to have diciplinary actions taken against them.
: RIOT DOESNT BAN TROLLS NEVER . SHOW SOME RESPECT TO YOUR PLAYERBASE
The game is balanced so that one playing afk or trolling does not hinder the rest of the team that much. There might be a slight difference, but it certainly isn't much. Just stay focused and you can win these games easy.
: The state of the r/leagueoflegends subreddit
I got banned for asking what it's like to play league in the great country of Taiwan.
Raffyk (NA)
: The Ranged Conqueror Change is an Unbalanced and (Near)Game-breaking Nerf to Urgot
waypist (NA)
: i hate how useful dodging is
Dodging shouldn't have any penalties
: I mean. They gotta follow the riot creed. Always damage Forever damage Only damage Amen.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GEddtZPi,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-05T23:16:35.516+0000) > > I mean. They gotta follow the riot creed. > Always damage > Forever damage > Only damage > Amen. That was funny
Xhevo (NA)
: Zilean Rework Concept
Passive doesn't seem buggy enough
Zeyphel (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=excelsheet1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9vK3czhb,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-06T23:25:38.837+0000) > > She is the most interactive champion in the game. Stopped reading here
> [{quoted}](name=Zeyphel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9vK3czhb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-07T03:15:23.955+0000) > > Stopped reading here Good. It's my main point. Her whole kit is designed to be useful only if you trade and take risks. She is literally the definition of interactive when it comes lol champions. Just think of how powerful low skill floor / low interactive champions like zed/riven/Yas are. Yas doesn't even need to use abilities to be effective. Zed and riven don't have counter play. Champions like zed don't even interact with towers as he teleports all over the map. These champions are balanced. But they should be dumpstered because they are so easy/uninteractive.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9vK3czhb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T23:38:21.987+0000) > > Wut. > > Is.. this a shitpost? No?
Rioter Comments
: Solving the Karma Subclass Chaos
Karma is the most interactive champion in the game. Both with the enemy and allies. She needs buffs due to how she has to take risks both with builds and how she is going engage and disengage fights. She is by far the best designed champion in the game his a reasonably high skill floor.
: According to op.gg the following champions are played mid and support {{champion:3}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:26}} The only one of those, that has a 50+% winrate in both lanes, however, is Zilean.
> [{quoted}](name=SilverSquid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lIAuT6Ie,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-06T04:15:27.458+0000) > > According to op.gg the following champions are played mid and support > {{champion:3}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:26}} > The only one of those, that has a 50+% winrate in both lanes, however, is Zilean. Zilean is the only viable champion in the game
: About Those Karma Buffs - Riot Can We Talk?
Karma is one of the most, if not the most interactive champion in the game, players should have a decent pay for using her.
PzyXo (EUW)
: Yasuo mains are more chill than Karma mains in boards
Wanting to play my champion is very unreasonable
: They don't want solo lane karma because she's noninteractive and extremely unfun to play against.
> [{quoted}](name=NTrumpWeTrust,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0mcXEEGI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-04T23:21:17.544+0000) > > They don't want solo lane karma because she's noninteractive and extremely unfun to play against. How is she un interactive? Her whole kit is designed to reward trading
: Thoughts About The Playerbase
League of Legends literally has the most mature, brightest, compassionate, and empathetic community to ever exist (online or otherwise). We are the blueprint for better future for our children.
: About Those Karma Buffs - Riot Can We Talk?
I feel like people like playing her as a solo laner than a support. That's what the champion balance should reflect
: The buff her shield tho and leave her Q (and thus midlane Karma) in the gutter?
> [{quoted}](name=SilverSquid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0mcXEEGI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T21:26:19.157+0000) > > The buff her shield tho > and leave her Q (and thus midlane Karma) in the gutter? Yeah. I don't understand that part.
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XPnut (NA)
: Champion pricing - Why?
There should be a negative cost to champions
XPnut (NA)
: Champion pricing - Why?
Wanna have your mind blown? All the champions are easy to play. League is a decision making game. It's about having map awareness, Mana control, knowing cooldowns, knowing when to rotate, knowing when to push objectives. The game is hard
: At the risk of over simplifying, it breaks down into two ends. 1. They are intentionally feeding (whether "hard" or "soft") and need to be banned for 14 days or perm (depends on if previous gameplay offense). 2. They are NOT intentionally feeding and that is the end of that.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUlyB9da,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-29T19:28:26.817+0000) > > At the risk of over simplifying, it breaks down into two ends. > > 1. They are intentionally feeding (whether "hard" or "soft") and need to be banned for 14 days or perm (depends on if previous gameplay offense). > > 2. They are NOT intentionally feeding and that is the end of that. I don't think in reality its not that easy to tell. Which is the advantage of my proposal. You just sit out for a bit so you don't do it again right after.
: > I think if you totally give up on a game and you are intentionally feeding or trolling a ranked game. There should be a report option to report you on it. There already is a report option for intentionally feeding and griefing. > We have all played in games where someone is just feeding over and over. What you're doing is what is typically done by people who have unrealistic expectations. We see it here all the time. You are unable to separate intentional from unintentional feeding, and you want people to be punished because you lost a game or because they played poorly. That is never going to happen. There is never going to be KDA-based punishment beyond what already exists - the punishment for playing poorly is losing games. > It would just be a "hey, you aren't ready or in the right mindset for ranked, take a break from it". You are not the team captain, coach, or boss. You have no more standing to make these kinds of judgments on another player than they are for you. If this doesn't sit well with you in a team-based game, then this is not the game for you.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUlyB9da,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-29T19:19:35.713+0000) > > There already is a report option for intentionally feeding and griefing. > > What you're doing is what is typically done by people who have unrealistic expectations. We see it here all the time. You are unable to separate intentional from unintentional feeding, and you want people to be punished because you lost a game or because they played poorly. That is never going to happen. > > There is never going to be KDA-based punishment beyond what already exists - the punishment for playing poorly is losing games. > > You are not the team captain, coach, or boss. You have no more standing to make these kinds of judgments on another player than they are for you. > > If this doesn't sit well with you in a team-based game, then this is not the game for you. I don't think you are getting what I'm saying. Intentionally feeding isn't always so cut and dry. But if you are being troll or being super low effort in a ranked game there should be something done to prevent a player from doing it next time. This IS a team game and it takes a team members who are trying to win. My proposal would also help from being over tilted and making the same low effort or tilting people the next game. I intentionally said a mixture of things, not just kda. Its not about being a boss. It's encouraging taking a break for those who need it. I honestly wish I had this for myself.
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C9 Chews (NA)
: Gold Adc or Mid LF Committed Team
SlothMob (NA)
: Ban Appeal
Shouldn't not been banned. You should of been given free RP instead
: Gold Player Looking For Team
I'm a good support if you are looking for a duo
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86400 (NA)
: Jungle should never be something a non jungler can be placed in.
: What Riot did was make players who are ahead stronger and players who are behind weaker, all because of their stupid reasoning of " you lost 1 lane so the game is pretty much done for u, hurr durr gg ez buy some skins". They favour variety in the support role, so much that they made the support role obsolete.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDelighted,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EZ65rbgX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-24T15:45:25.675+0000) > > What Riot did was make players who are ahead stronger and players who are behind weaker, all because of their stupid reasoning of " you lost 1 lane so the game is pretty much done for u, hurr durr gg ez buy some skins". > They favour variety in the support role, so much that they made the support role obsolete. This is kind of how I feel. They are making bot duo carry instead of carry/support. Meaning you have two champions with carry items (pyke, xerath, senna). So if you play a normal support, you are just out damaged.
: > [{quoted}](name=excelsheet1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FAhjx7dJ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-11-24T05:06:35.624+0000) > > They already make people pay by having to fund new accounts. Might as well just directly make people pay. Maybe some of the money could towards restitution of the offended party in form of riot points or whatever. Accounts are entirely free, the only thing people buy is skins, or champs if they choose not to unlock them through play. This just is a problem of inequality of income though, certain races might be segregated ect
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Andrew,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FAhjx7dJ,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-24T05:08:41.903+0000) > > Accounts are entirely free, the only thing people buy is skins, or champs if they choose not to unlock them through play. > This just is a problem of inequality of income though, certain races might be segregated ect Thats a dumb way of lookings at it. People obviously need to by exp boosts and rebuy the champions they lost due to account bans. Accounts aren't really free in that sense. League is a game not a right, I personally would pay to just to make the game better even if that meant some people couldn't play. I actually think people with money should be able to buy perks like being able to boot people from champselect if they are trolling. Or be able to play in solo q with three instead of 2. The most reasonable step would be players being fined for "bad behavior".
: I don't agree with this, players shouldnt be allowed to break the rules and just pay to get out of jail free
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Andrew,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FAhjx7dJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-24T05:00:30.167+0000) > > I don't agree with this, players shouldnt be allowed to break the rules and just pay to get out of jail free They already make people pay by having to fund new accounts. Might as well just directly make people pay. Maybe some of the money could towards restitution of the offended party in form of riot points or whatever.
: Games are Still one sided
I honestly find games way too stompy. I either feel like the one idiot in top lane ruined the game for everyone or I could afk and still somehow get a penta kill.
: As A permanently banned Player I feel as if Riot should offer 1year/5year/10year(ect.) bans instead
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